From: "ima1zumi (Mari Imaizumi) via ruby-core" Date: 2024-09-06T14:48:40+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:119084] [Ruby master Feature#20309] Bundled gems for Ruby 3.5 Issue #20309 has been updated by ima1zumi (Mari Imaizumi). Does this change mean that even if Ruby is installed, the irb command will no longer be available? If that is the case, I oppose it for the following reasons: - Existing learning materials will no longer work as-is, causing confusion for beginners. - IRB would need to be reinstalled every time Ruby is reinstalled. I believe removing IRB would significantly disadvantage users. ---------------------------------------- Feature #20309: Bundled gems for Ruby 3.5 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20309#change-109672 * Author: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) * Status: Assigned * Assignee: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) ---------------------------------------- I propose migrate the following default gems to bundled gems at Ruby 3.5. So, It means users will get warnings if users try to load them. (Update with 2024/03/14, 2024/06/05, 2024/09/06) * rdoc(done) * We need to change build task like download rdoc gem before document generation. * extract `make doc` from `make all` and invoke `make doc` before `make install`. * done for Ruby 3.4 * or We make document generation is optional from Ruby 3.5 * We explicitly separate `make install` and `make install-doc` * ostruct(done) * I make ostruct as optional on json at https://github.com/flori/json/pull/565 * pstore(done) * win32ole(done) * logger(done) * activesupport needs to add logger to its dependency same as bigdecimal, drb or etc. * fiddle(done) * benchmark * irb * We need to consider how works `binding.irb` after Ruby 3.5. * I consider to use `irb` without Gemfile. * reline * readline (wrapper file for readline-ext and reline) I have a plan to migrate the following default gems too. But I need to more feedback from other committers about them. * io-console * rubygems uses that. Should we make optional that? * open-uri * yaml (wrapper file for psych) * syck is retired today. I'm not sure what people uses `psych` directly, not `yaml`. * un * `ruby -run` is one of cool feature of Ruby. Should we avoid uninstalling `un` gem? * mkmf uses `ruby -run` for that. I need to investigate that. * singleton * This is famous design pattern. Should we enforce users add them to their Gemfile? * forwadable * `reline` needs to add forwardable their `runtime_dependency` after migration. * weakref * I'm not sure how impact after migrating bundled gems. * fcntl * Should we integrate these constants into ruby core? I would like to migrate `ipaddr` and `uri` too. But these are used by webrick that is mock server for our test suite. We need to rewrite `webrick` with `TCPSocker` or extract `ipaddr` and `uri` dependency from `webrick` Other default gems depend on our build process or other libraries deeply. I will update this proposal if I could extract them from default gems. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/