Debian Bug report logs - #1029669
singularity-container not suitable for Debian stable releases

Package: src:singularity-container; Maintainer for src:singularity-container is Debian HPC Team <[email protected]>;

Reported by: Paul Gevers <[email protected]>

Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:45:02 UTC

Severity: serious

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From: Paul Gevers <[email protected]>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[email protected]>
Subject: singularity-container not suitable for Debian stable releases
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 09:38:14 +0100
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Source: singularity-container
Severity: serious

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Subject: Re: Should singularity-container make it to next release?
Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:25:56 +0000 (UTC)
Resent-From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:14:41 +0100
From: Moritz Muehlenhoff <[email protected]>
To: Andreas Tille <[email protected]>, Nilesh Patra <[email protected]>, 
[email protected], [email protected], David 
Trudgian <[email protected]>, [email protected], 
Debian Security Team <[email protected]>

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 08:34:40PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
> So in my understanding of the above the situation around singularity-container,
> which lead for buster to https://bugs.debian.org/917867 and keeping it out of
> the stable release, did not really change in the aspect of beeing able to patch
> vulnerabilities to the stable branch once upstream versions moved on, is this
> correct interpretation? In context from #917867, it was even in stretch at
> first, but needed to be removed after stretch was released in a point release.
> 
> If this is correct, then we probably should not include singularity-container
> in bookworm, better than possibly need to remove it after bookworm release in a
> point release.

Agreed.

Cheers,
        Moritz

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From: Paul Gevers <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Should singularity-container make it to next release?
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:38:00 +0100
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Hi Nilesh,

On 26-01-2023 10:06, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> I guess something that changed since then is that upstream is aware
> about it and can help a bit with backporting. However the onus to
> maintain it in stable is still on the maintainer and security@ (to some
> extent)
> It is bit of a high-effort maintainance (in stable) as far as I can see.

I may (or may not) be misunderstanding you. As a maintainer, it's up to 
you to commit to the effort. If you're up to it and judge it's feasible, 
I'm not going to block you on that. I understood you raised a concern 
about it being feasible, that's why we ended up here. If you commit 
(obviously best effort, but we'll expect you to spend time on it) *and* 
the security team agrees that with your commitment it's supportable, 
I'll remove my concern. Our concern is that we *don't* want new versions 
in stable to fix security issues if those new versions are not 
bugfix-only releases. We have to accept that for browsers, because 
shipping without them seems like a disservice to nearly all of our 
users, but still it's something we really don't like.

> fasttrack still has much less visibility / availability than
> an official stable release, or even backports.

Obviously that will only be solved if it's more used (and/or if 
eventually it can be moved to the debian.org namespace.) But indeed.

Paul
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