Feddit.onlineOver 160 Chinese nationals fight for Russia in Ukraine and "Beijing knows about this," Zelensky says
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/32430092
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"There are 155 Chinese citizens who are fighting against Ukrainians on the territory of Ukraine," President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed this information to journalists on April 9.
"We are collecting information, we believe that there are many more."
"For these 155 there is passport data, where they are from, their Chinese documents, age, etc," Zelensky added.
According to Zelensky, Chinese soldiers had been serving with Russia's 70th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade, the 255th Rifle Division, and others.
A day before, President Volodymyr Zelensky announced the capture of two Chinese citizens fighting for Russia in eastern Donetsk Oblast. The group of six Chinese nationals clashed with Ukrainian forces, and two are now being held by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), he said.
The documents, obtained by the Kyiv Independent, list the names, personal data, place of service and position in the Russian army of other Chinese nationals.
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One of the captured soldiers claimed he paid 300,000 rubles (roughly $3,000) to a middleman in China to join the Russian military in exchange for the promise of citizenship, Ukraine's Luhansk military unit press service told Ukrainian Pravda earlier in the day.
"Beijing knows about this. Russians distribute advertising videos about recruitment through Chinese social networks," Zelensky said.
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BagginsBefore getting on our high horse - there are mercenaries of various nationalities fighting on the Ukrainian side as well as the Russian side, that doesn't mean their governments support them.
skillissuermercenaries would be something like wagner. there are international volunteers within normal units of UAF, with normal pay and responsibilities just like any other unit. these chinese were promised unusually high salary and russian citizenship at the end of the contract. ukrainian foreign legion is entirely official, while this chinese recruitment seems to be covert or at least not very highly visibly public. ukrainian foreign legion also takes only people with former combat experience (iirc), it's unclear so far if chinese recruited have any, probably not considering that china has stayed out of any major war or deployment since forever. these are not the same things
HubiThe difference is that foreigners on Ukraine's side volunteer to defend a sovereign country from attack. The Chinese signed up to invade, pillage and destroy.
In addition to comments by others in this thread I may draw your attention to the quote:
"Beijing knows about this. Russians distribute advertising videos about recruitment through Chinese social networks," Zelensky said.
How is is possible that Russians "distribute advertising videos about recruitment through Chinese social networks" without the Chinese party-state knowing this? - The answer is, it isn't. Everything that is only slightly critical of the government or inadvertently referencing to historical issues like the Tiananmen Square massacre is being censored on Chinese social media immediately. But Russia can run advertisements offering money and citizenship without Chinese censors catching on? And despite, according to Chinese officials, "Chinese citizens are prohibited from participating in foreign armed conflicts"?
(The answers to these two questions can only be, "No, because it is not very credible that this goes unnoticed by the Chinese censorship machine. ")
[Edit typo.]
True. And it's also not like that's some kind of secret. That's an official branch of the Ukrainian military organization.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Legion_(Ukraine)
GollumExactly what I was thinking. This is a fact and doesn't mean Russia is right. So I don't understand the downvotes.
Even the article mentioned that they got offered money in return.
I'm sure they all "volunteered"
aleq160 people is a very tiny force, feels unlikely that this is China's official (official between Russia and China) contribution. China is a country with twice the population of Europe, and 160 guys is all they send to help?
This explanation feels more likely:
One of the captured soldiers claimed he paid 300,000 rubles (roughly $3,000) to a middleman in China to join the Russian military in exchange for the promise of citizenship, Ukraine's Luhansk military unit press service told Ukrainian Pravda earlier in the day.
narpPeople in China pay* money to be sent in a meat grinder for the off chance of becoming *russian citizens if they survive!?
rockerface 🇺🇦
massive_bereavementI mean if there's something the Chinese have a lot it's Chineses.
B-TR3EProbably a replacement for the North Korean troops that seem to have vanished before anybody has seen them.
Unlike North Korean troops, who have fought on Russian soil, the Chinese nationals were captured on Ukrainian territory, marking a potential escalation in foreign involvement.
North Korea sent around 12,000 troops to Russia's Kursk Oblast in 2024 to reinforce Russian lines after a Ukrainian cross-border offensive. Kyiv has said it captured two North Korean soldiers in January, estimating 4,000 casualties among the deployed units.
Really seems like China spying on Russian capabilities than anything else. Someone correct me, but there isn't a real impact here, is there? Ukraine neutralizes that many occupier troops every day, don't they? Or is there some obvious political ramifications that I don't see? China potentially joining Russian forces en masse? I don't see it. I'm often wrong though.
real_squidsSomeone correct me, but there isn't a real impact here, is there?
Not really, just more proof of mercenaries' existence. Ideally Ukraine wants China to lessen their support of invaders, doubt this is gonna help.
3 grand for a promise of a russian citizenship seems like a shit deal, so I checked their article on that.
The man also said others in the unit had prior legal problems in China. His family was aware of his travel to Russia, though he had left China posing as a tourist.
Sounds about right. No point in paying for such privilege unless you want to find a better life or disappear.
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