Couldn’t agree more. Philosophy seems often to even revel in murkiness and ambiguity so much that it may make one question whether there is anything in it besides like clarity and certainty. At the same time everyone pretty much knows or at least they should that philosophy begins with these so where there’s any serious debate like this probably the best question to ask is always what the opposing camps might agree on and then be ready to as it were chuck their disagreement to figments of the brain and fancy ie, not objective or having to do with reality. But the when the concept of reality is part of the the debate like in this one then it doubles up, ideas and things get mixed up and things start getting very complicated. My guess here would be that the two theories are distinct kind of like any two people having a view of the same thing are distinct, but identical as the thing they’re both looking at is identical or one and the same.




