Benign Intent — White Magic By Kevin J. W. Driscoll © 2025

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Anya (Host): Welcome back to Benign Intent, the only podcast dedicated to proving that positive magic is not just about crystals and good vibes, but also about setting boundaries, doing the hard work, and, occasionally, calling out systemic appropriation. Today, we have gathered a panel of incredible minds whose work collectively redefines what it means to practice White Magic ethically and powerfully.

With me today, we have the critically acclaimed author of White Magic, Elissa Washuta; the insightful and perpetually stylish oracle Rachel True; and the author and powerhouse psychic Mat Auryn. Welcome, all three of you.

Rachel True: Great to be here, Anya. It’s always a pleasure to discuss how intent trumps glitter every single time.

Mat Auryn: Thank you for having me. I’m ready to talk about how powerful, benevolent magic starts right between your own two ears.

Elissa Washuta: I appreciate the invitation. I’m especially grateful we can start by pulling apart the problematic wrapper around the entire concept we’re here to discuss.

Anya: And that is precisely where we must begin, Elissa. Your book title, White Magic, serves as a kind of Trojan horse…