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On 12/5/25 14:31, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> 
> All I can do is to reiterate my desire to see the Qt console continue to
> be supported and maintained (and its bugs fixed).  I *hate and detest*
> the "Everything is a web page" metaphor.  Contrary to widespread belief,
> a web browser *is not* the best of all possible interfaces.

To expand on that 'bugs fixed':  It is mostly very good, but there is a 
longstanding (and long since reported) bug in which purging or deleting 
volumes spawns multiple redundant confirmation popups for the same 
operation, with different wording in each.

I *THINK* the problem of the operator being unable to override target 
storage or pool for an on-demand job got fixed a while back.


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On 12/5/25 10:52, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> as Qt5 support here on Gentoo Linux is nearing its end, I would like to ask
> again about the state of the bat Qt console for bacula? Any news here?
> 
> It would be a pitty if we would be forced the support.


All I can do is to reiterate my desire to see the Qt console continue to 
be supported and maintained (and its bugs fixed).  I *hate and detest* 
the "Everything is a web page" metaphor.  Contrary to widespread belief, 
a web browser *is not* the best of all possible interfaces.

(In fact, the baggage that a web browser drags along to what should be a 
standalone application is often utterly infuriating.)



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Hi all,

as Qt5 support here on Gentoo Linux is nearing its end, I would like to ask
again about the state of the bat Qt console for bacula? Any news here?

It would be a pitty if we would be forced the support.

So any comment ist welcome.

Sincerly,
    Thomas.

Am Wed, May 28, 2025 at 01:11:07PM +0200, schrieb Thomas Beierlein:
> Hi all,
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 07:57:23AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > On 2/18/25 04:27, eric--- via Bacula-devel wrote:
> > > > Le 24 janv. 2025 à 08:13, Joerg Wunsch via Bacula-devel <bac...@li...> a écrit :
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any interest in analyzing this and suggesting a patch, or
> > > > is the old Qt console being completely abandoned meanwhile?
> > > 
> > > BAT is used by a lot of people, but we don’t have any active developer working on it. We usually just make sure that it compiles properly.
> > > If you like it, I would suggest to do it, it has a couple of problems, but it’s still very useful.
> > 
> > 
> > I second this.  I still actively use BAT and, honestly, prefer a standalone
> > application to any web console.
> > 
> 3 month later ... . Let me ask if there are any news on this?
> 
> We here on Gentoo linux are on the way to phase out the old Qt5 packages due
> to shrinking support with updates and fixes. So time is running out.
> 
> Regards,
>     Thomas
> 
> 
> -- 

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 at 18:33, Marcin Haba <gan...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:47, Marcin Haba <gan...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:36, Eric Bollengier <er...@ba...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Marcin,
> > >
> > > Did you try something like that
> > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65821162/gitlab-account-acces-error-422-the-change-you-requested-was-rejected
> >
> > Hello Eric,
> >
> > Yes, I tried. Both errors for logging in and password reset happen on
> > Chrome and Firefox.
>
> Hello Eric,
>
> Any news in this topic? I am still not able to log in (and reset
> password) with the same result.

Hello Eric,

Thanks for directing this topic to Sean who fixed my account.

Now I am able to successfully log in.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:47, Marcin Haba <gan...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:36, Eric Bollengier <er...@ba...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Marcin,
> >
> > Did you try something like that
> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65821162/gitlab-account-acces-error-422-the-change-you-requested-was-rejected
>
> Hello Eric,
>
> Yes, I tried. Both errors for logging in and password reset happen on
> Chrome and Firefox.

Hello Eric,

Any news in this topic? I am still not able to log in (and reset
password) with the same result.

In GitLab are issues that I want to work on.

Thanks in advance for fixing it.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

Hello Eric & Marcin,

I've tried the "Reset my Password" link using Brave.

I did receive the reset password e-mail without problem, but using the link
provided from it I got this error

*Your password reset token has expired.*

This is strange as I used the link roughly 2 minutes after requesting the
"password reset".

Best,

Davide

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 6:50 PM Marcin Haba <gan...@gm...> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:36, Eric Bollengier <er...@ba...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Marcin,
> >
> > Did you try something like that
> >
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65821162/gitlab-account-acces-error-422-the-change-you-requested-was-rejected
>
> Hello Eric,
>
> Yes, I tried. Both errors for logging in and password reset happen on
> Chrome and Firefox.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcin Haba (gani)
>
>
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 at 18:36, Eric Bollengier <er...@ba...> wrote:
>
> Hello Marcin,
>
> Did you try something like that
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65821162/gitlab-account-acces-error-422-the-change-you-requested-was-rejected

Hello Eric,

Yes, I tried. Both errors for logging in and password reset happen on
Chrome and Firefox.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

Hello Marcin,

Did you try something like that
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65821162/gitlab-account-acces-error-422-the-change-you-requested-was-rejected

Basically, you can try to use chrome, I'm using firefox here without any
problem.

Best Regards,
Eric

On 10/28/25 17:54, Marcin Haba wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
> 
> I am not able to log in to Bacula Community GitLab. I tried logging in
> and resetting password. Below I am adding the errors that I received:
> 
> === Login error:
> 422: The change you requested was rejected
> Make sure you have access to the thing you tried to change.
> Please contact your GitLab administrator if you think this is a mistake.
> 
> === Reset password error:
> 1 error prohibited this user from being saved:
>   * Auditor user cannot be created without the "GitLab_Auditor_User" addon.
> 
> 
> Normally I would report it to GitLab but because of the above errors I
> am not able to do this there.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help to fix GitLab.
> 
> Best regards,
> Marcin Haba (gani)
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Bac...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-devel

Hello Everybody,

I am not able to log in to Bacula Community GitLab. I tried logging in
and resetting password. Below I am adding the errors that I received:

=== Login error:
422: The change you requested was rejected
Make sure you have access to the thing you tried to change.
Please contact your GitLab administrator if you think this is a mistake.

=== Reset password error:
1 error prohibited this user from being saved:
 * Auditor user cannot be created without the "GitLab_Auditor_User" addon.


Normally I would report it to GitLab but because of the above errors I
am not able to do this there.

Thanks in advance for your help to fix GitLab.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

Hello Konstantin,

On 9/29/25 11:04, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
> Hello, I'm writing a GUI around Bacula (yeah, another one), and my
> problem is I want to receive every job status change, e.g. if it's
> running, failed, etc, to display to user interactively.
> 
> After digging far and wide, I figured the only way to do this is by
> changing `bacula-dir.conf` to have:
> 
>      Messages {
>        Name = Daemon
>        append = "/tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe" = all, events, debug
>      }
> 
> Per my understanding, this should send everything to
> /tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe. I know for a fact job status changes are
> part of the logs, because if you launch `bconsole` (assuming you have
> `console = all` option) and execute `messages`, you see job status
> changes info.

I'm not sure what you mean by job status, the messages command will
display job messages, not job status change. (Running to Waiting, or Cancel,
...).
> Yet somehow, even though it works for console, I never see that info
> among messages coming to /tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe!

I'm not sure that the Daemon message resource is configured to get your
Job messages, double check that. After, each message is sent via STDIO
and might take time to end up written in your socket. Perhaps the syslog
destination would be more appropriate, and syslog is very flexible for
that.

Hope it helps!
Best Regards,
Eric

Hello, I'm writing a GUI around Bacula (yeah, another one), and my
problem is I want to receive every job status change, e.g. if it's
running, failed, etc, to display to user interactively.

After digging far and wide, I figured the only way to do this is by
changing `bacula-dir.conf` to have:

    Messages {
      Name = Daemon
      append = "/tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe" = all, events, debug
    }

Per my understanding, this should send everything to
/tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe. I know for a fact job status changes are
part of the logs, because if you launch `bconsole` (assuming you have
`console = all` option) and execute `messages`, you see job status
changes info.

Yet somehow, even though it works for console, I never see that info
among messages coming to /tmp/dir-messages-named-pipe!

WDIDW?

Hi Everyone.

That reminds me of an old idea that I had several years ago (not sure
if I had commented or not here), nevertheless, my idea was based on
the credentials rotations.

The goal is to avoid manually updating configurations across many
clients. Instead, we can enable the Bacula Director to push new
passwords to connected clients securely.

Here's a high level concept for a smooth credential rotation:

1. Dual-Password Configuration: Both the Director and the FD are
configured to accept two passwords: the Password (current) and an
OldPassword.
2 - Connection & Notification: An FD connects to the Director using
its current Password. During the session, the Director can signal that
a new password is available.
3 - Secure Update: The FD, over the already-authenticated connection,
requests the new password. The Director provides it, and the FD
updates its configuration (e.g., writes it to the file: or dynfile:
referenced in its config).
4 - Graceful Transition: For a defined period, both the old and new
passwords are valid. This prevents backup failures if a client
restarts before receiving the update.
5 - Cleanup: After a successful transition and a configured timeout,
the OldPassword is automatically retired from both sides.

Key Advantages:
=============
* Zero-Touch Rotation: Password changes can be initiated once from the
Director and propagate automatically to all active clients.
* No Backup Disruption: The dual-password window ensures operations
aren't interrupted during the rollout.
* Handles Scale: This works for 10 or 1,000 FDs without additional
manual effort.
* Complements External Secrets: This rotation mechanism would work
seamlessly with Clinton's proposed file:, dynfile:, or credstore:
directives. The FD would simply update the secret in the external
store or file.

Logically, not sure how technically complicated that can be !!! but in
theory, the idea should work well !! :-D

Salu2

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On Tue, 2 Sept 2025 at 21:28, Arno Lehmann via Bacula-devel
<bac...@li...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> creating new issues in gitlab.bacula.org should now be possible again.

Hello Everybody,

Arno, many thanks! I don't know how you did it, but you did it :-)

The New issue button is back.

Davide, thanks for the confirmation.

Best regards,
Marcin

Hi all,

creating new issues in gitlab.bacula.org should now be possible again.

Cheers,

Arno


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Hi everyone,

With my account, creating a new issue is not a problem

See
https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/2757


Best,

Davide

On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 19:02 Arno Lehmann via Bacula-devel <
bac...@li...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have now checked and can confirm that I can not create a new issue
> (result is 404 and don't get me started ranting on misleading status
> codes...) and that there is no "New Issue" button in Bacula Community's
> issue list that I ca find.
>
> I'll see if I can point some people with insight to this problem!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Arno
>
> --
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>
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>
>
>
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>

Hi all,

I have now checked and can confirm that I can not create a new issue 
(result is 404 and don't get me started ranting on misleading status 
codes...) and that there is no "New Issue" button in Bacula Community's 
issue list that I ca find.

I'll see if I can point some people with insight to this problem!

Cheers,

Arno

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Hi Marcin, all,

I can confirm that the mailing list works.

Haven't looked into gitlab as I'm not even sure I have an account there...

Cheers,

Arno

Am 02.09.2025 um 14:53 schrieb Marcin Haba:
> On 2.09.2025 14:08, Dan Langille wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, at 7:56 AM, Marcin Haba wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
>>>>
>>>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
>>>>
>>>> I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
>>>>
>>>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula- 
>>>> community/-/issues/new
>>>>
>>>> Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.
>>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>>
>>> Yes, I confirm it. I see the same - no "New issue" button. Thanks for
>>> finding it.
>>>
>>> I am writing about this to amplify "the transmission signal" of this 
>>> problem :-)
>>
>> I also couldn't find the "New Issue" button at first. Reloading helps.
> 
> Hello Dan,
> 
> Thanks for the response and the tip.
> 
> In GitLab are two places for reporting new issue:
> 
> 1) Button with label "New issue in Bacula Community" - This button is 
> visible if we do not choose any project in GitLab. Clicking this causes 
> 404 error.
> 
> 2) Button with label "New issue" - This button should be visible after 
> selecting the project on the issue list page at the top. I meant this 
> button, that it is missing.
> 
>> I also get the same 404 error.
>>
>> Are we raising this issue in the appropriate location?
> 
> In my opinion, yes. GitLab is a tool for the Bacula developers and 
> users. Normally these problems could be reported by opening a new issue 
> but in this case this is not possible.
> 
>> I also note the most recently created issue is two months old. Perhaps 
>> this has been broken for a while.
> 
> Yes, good point.
> 
> 
> I am worrying if these our e-mails in this topic will be delivered to 
> this list, because the bacula-devel list web page shows that no message 
> was delivered today to the list:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/bacula/mailman/bacula-devel/
> 
> I sent today two different e-mails to this list and they were not 
> displayed on the bacula-devel webpage either.
> 
> Best regards,
> Marcin Haba (gani)
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bacula-devel mailing list
> Bac...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-devel

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On Tue, 2 Sept 2025 at 18:11, Arno Lehmann <al...@it...> wrote:
>
> Hi Marcin, all,
>
> I can confirm that the mailing list works.

Hi Arno,

Many thanks for the confirmation about the bacula-devel list.

Yes, fortunately it started working back. The emails sent 7 hours ago
now came in reverse order but this is not a problem.

Best regards,
Marcin

On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:56, Marcin Haba <gan...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
> >
> > https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
> >
> > I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
> >
> > https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new
> >
> > Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.

Hello Everybody,

In my opinion this 'New Issue' button is the most important button in
this Bacula GitLab because thanks to this function Bacula can become
better. This is a crucial function.

After two weeks this is still not working. Maybe the Community can
help somehow in fixing this issue?

What do you think about it?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

On 19.08.2025 13:56, Marcin Haba wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
>>
>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
>>
>> I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
>>
>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new
>>
>> Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.

Hello Everybody,

In my opinion this 'New Issue' button is the most important button in 
this Bacula GitLab because thanks to this function Bacula can become 
better. This is a crucial function.

After two weeks this is still not working. Maybe the Community can help 
somehow in fixing this issue?

What do you think about it?

Thanks in advance for response.

BTW: I am sending this message one more time because my original 
message, that I sent to this list today morning, was not delivered to 
this list and not displayed here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/bacula/mailman/bacula-devel/

This time I used different email. It looks that the devel list 
experienced an delivering mails issue.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, at 7:56 AM, Marcin Haba wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
>>
>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
>>
>> I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
>>
>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new
>>
>> Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.
>
> Hello Martin,
>
> Yes, I confirm it. I see the same - no "New issue" button. Thanks for
> finding it.
>
> I am writing about this to amplify "the transmission signal" of this problem :-)

I also couldn't find the "New Issue" button at first. Reloading helps.

I also get the same 404 error.

Are we raising this issue in the appropriate location?

I also note the most recently created issue is two months old. Perhaps this has been broken for a while.


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On 2.09.2025 14:08, Dan Langille wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, at 7:56 AM, Marcin Haba wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
>>>
>>> I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new
>>>
>>> Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.
>>
>> Hello Martin,
>>
>> Yes, I confirm it. I see the same - no "New issue" button. Thanks for
>> finding it.
>>
>> I am writing about this to amplify "the transmission signal" of this problem :-)
> 
> I also couldn't find the "New Issue" button at first. Reloading helps.

Hello Dan,

Thanks for the response and the tip.

In GitLab are two places for reporting new issue:

1) Button with label "New issue in Bacula Community" - This button is 
visible if we do not choose any project in GitLab. Clicking this causes 
404 error.

2) Button with label "New issue" - This button should be visible after 
selecting the project on the issue list page at the top. I meant this 
button, that it is missing.

> I also get the same 404 error.
> 
> Are we raising this issue in the appropriate location?

In my opinion, yes. GitLab is a tool for the Bacula developers and 
users. Normally these problems could be reported by opening a new issue 
but in this case this is not possible.

> I also note the most recently created issue is two months old. Perhaps this has been broken for a while.

Yes, good point.


I am worrying if these our e-mails in this topic will be delivered to 
this list, because the bacula-devel list web page shows that no message 
was delivered today to the list:

https://sourceforge.net/p/bacula/mailman/bacula-devel/

I sent today two different e-mails to this list and they were not 
displayed on the bacula-devel webpage either.

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 at 13:35, Martin Simmons <ma...@li...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:
>
> https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues
>
> I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:
>
> https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new
>
> Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.

Hello Martin,

Yes, I confirm it. I see the same - no "New issue" button. Thanks for
finding it.

I am writing about this to amplify "the transmission signal" of this problem :-)

Best regards,
Marcin Haba (gani)

Hi,

When I click on the "New issue" button on this page:

https://gitlab.bacula.org/groups/bacula-community-edition/-/issues

I get a 404: Page not found error for the URL:

https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community/-/issues/new

Also, sometimes the "New issue" button is missing completely.

__Martin

On Thu, Jun 26, 2025, at 2:42 AM, Eric Bollengier via Bacula-devel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is a very good topic. It's not so elegant, but I think you can cover your
> need today with the @ macro in the configuration file.
>
> You can execute a command that will generate the password (reading from a file
> for example, or doing some query in a database), or read a file.
>
> If you want to just read from a file:
>
> Client {
>   Name = myclient-fd
>   @/opt/bacula/etc/myclient.password
>   Address = myclient.lan
>   File Retention = 5 years
>   Job Retention = 5 years
>   ..
> }
>
> and in /opt/bacula/etc/myclient.password
> you have
>
> # cat /opt/bacula/etc/myclient.password
> Password = "this is a secret"

We use this in production at $WORK.  All secrets are stored using this approach.
All configuration files are stored in repos. There are no secrets in repos.

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