Mike Vrabel as a potential Patriots coaching option? Thoughts?

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00:00Uh, because he did not have much success, they are suggesting when it comes to Tennessee.

00:05Now I think he took that team to the playoffs three of his three of his six years.

00:11How long was he there for?

00:12Uh, yeah, I think it might've been twice, but I could be wrong.

00:17Uh, Tommy Curran, Curtis brought this up at the start of the show.

00:20We've talked about it a lot this morning.

00:22Suggest that Mike Vrabel, he has some sourcing on this would be interested in this job, right?

00:27Curtis.

00:28Yeah.

00:29I couldn't find the audio of it.

00:30So I've gone on the word of a savage on, on, on Twitter and it's been reposted all over

00:35the place.

00:36So Tommy, if you didn't say this, I apologize, but nonetheless, I, it, it is the right person

00:43at the right time and it is unfair to Mayo, but if it truly is the jets who I, according

00:50to all reports out of New York, Mike Vrabel is the number one choice by the jets to replace

00:55Robert Sala and Albrecht who's taken over.

00:57Yeah.

00:59Does Robert Kraft want to sit in his owner's suite for the rest of his time owning the

01:04Patriots competing against Mike Vrabel in his division?

01:08Or does he want to be indelicate, rude, unfair to Gerard Mayo?

01:14Or if you can think it's fair, that's fine.

01:15But does he want to go against his word to Gerard Mayo and move him out and bring Vrabel

01:21in?

01:22It's a tough spot.

01:23Which is a more intriguing opportunity for Mike Vrabel.

01:25If you just look at those two.

01:27I would say intriguing, meaning that what's more, um, desirous, desirable, I would say

01:32that the Patriots, yeah, the jets are a dumpster fire, by the way, complete side note has nothing

01:42to do with what we're talking about right now.

01:45You're both right about the final gift item, uh, when it comes to the 12 days of Christmas

01:51in 10 minutes, Curtis, you've outdone yourself re gifting on this.

01:55I, I mean, you know, I just try to please, I, this is, I wish you ran it by me first

02:02cause I would've kept it.

02:03Uh, so, okay.

02:05It is the number one gift you could give a Boston sports fan this Christmas.

02:10Yeah.

02:11By far.

02:12Yeah.

02:13Hands down.

02:14By far.

02:15Yeah.

02:16So it's sick.

02:17Like you.

02:18Uh, yeah.

02:19So anyway, three years.

02:20Yeah.

02:21Three years.

02:22He took them to the playoffs.

02:23Uh, three years in a row.

02:24He lost the championship, lost in the wild card and then lost in division.

02:27But this is more of a desirable place because I think when you start to look at the NFL,

02:32it is, it is really about the quarterback and it looks like you got it.

02:36You got the right guy.

02:37So if you're a Vrabel, you're probably saying, all right, Aaron Rogers, who might only have

02:42a year left, a year or two, a year or two at the most.

02:46And then Drake may, who's got 10, 12 years left.

02:50Is Chicago that same way though?

02:52Chicago is that same way?

02:53Looks at it.

02:54Yeah.

02:55Chicago is that same way because of the fact that you look at the quarterback situation,

02:59then you look at Vegas, you're going to probably be drafting a young guy.

03:02So do you want to deal with that?

03:04You look at the giants.

03:06Is there some sort of affinity when it comes to Vegas because of Tom Brady and his relationship

03:13with Mike Vrabel?

03:14That's good.

03:15That could, that's a good point because I saw a lot of stuff out there that supposedly

03:20Mark Davis, the owner of the Raiders is like going to tell Tom is basically saying to Tom,

03:26I want a lot of help when it comes to new coach, quarterback, all that stuff.

03:30So maybe Tom has a great relationship with Vrabel.

03:34He knows how he was as a player.

03:35I think he knows how he is as a coach.

03:37What better way to maybe hire a guy that you have confidence in?

03:41Would Vrabel want to work for Tom though?

03:44I don't think Vrabel would be bothered by it because I think Vrabel could have like

03:48real conversations with Tom.

03:50About like, oh, we should do this or we shouldn't do that when it comes to like free agency.

03:55And you said Vrabel was a good teammate.

03:56Like people all seem to like him.

03:58Yeah.

03:59Yeah.

04:00Everybody liked Vrabel.

04:01Vrabel, like he kept it real, you know, he kept it a hundred.

04:02He said what was on his mind.

04:03And I think that's kind of why it's because Tom's got to be looking at it like I'm going

04:10to be well and I'm going to be extremely involved in this kind of like the John Elway.

04:16So if you're Tom, don't you want to make sure your first time out the gate when it

04:22comes to your head coach is a guy that you know, know, right.

04:27And have a relationship, right.

04:29And so I think that if it's not, I heard Jones and keep talking about this yesterday.

04:34If it's not Mike Vrabel and they are making a change, like who else, you know, are you

04:41going to be able to get Ben Johnson?

04:44Like probably.

04:45Oh, you're saying for the Jets?

04:46No, Patriots.

04:47Oh, for the Patriots.

04:48Yeah.

04:49Oh, I don't know.

04:50I mean, I don't think you have.

04:52I would take either.

04:54And I, and as I said, I know that's probably not fair to Mayo, but Wiggy, we know where

04:58you stand on Mayo.

04:59And I think you make a lot of great points about the roster and all the things he inherited.

05:02Right.

05:03If you were Robert Kraft and you had the ability to hire Mike Vrabel this off season, would

05:09you do that and move on from Gerard Mayo?

05:13Oh man, I, it's, it's such a great question.

05:19You're going to get so much crap because you're going to be like really one and done.

05:25I think that obviously Vrabel is the better coach.

05:28Um, so yeah, I probably, if you're putting a gun to my head, I'd probably say, yeah,

05:33I'd go with Vrabel.

05:34Wow.

05:35Yeah.

05:36If you put it right.

05:37But you put yourself in.

05:38He's not, he's not an offensive minded coach and you don't really care about that.

05:43No.

05:44You have Drake May?

05:45No, because I'll just hire it.

05:46Like it's all about the coordinator that you're going to hire.

05:48Right.

05:49So if, if Mike Vrabel hires a good, do you have a chance of getting a better coordinator

05:53with Mike Vrabel as your head coach than you do with Gerard Mayo as your head coach?

05:56I think you do because you have, Vrabel has more of a network when it comes to people

06:01he can reach out to because he's been coaching longer than, than Mayo.

06:06He's been, he's been out and about in that world.

06:09So I would say he probably has more of a network, um, to get instant bump.

06:13I mean, this is the business part of it to be, do you get in a instant bump interest

06:18wise if you're Robert Kraft, when you hire Mike Vrabel, like, Oh, season ticket stuff.

06:22Translate.

06:23I don't think so.

06:24You don't.

06:25If you just get Mike Vrabel and you don't do anything with the actual team.

06:28I think Patriots fans eat that up.

06:30Oh, I don't know.

06:31I told you it was like, it was like, how many people have called saying, Greg, why are you?

06:35You're the only person that really wants Vrabel.

06:37I don't care about Vrabel.

06:38There's been so many people, whether it's on Twitch, text line or calling in saying

06:41that same thing.

06:42I think Vrabel would be great.

06:43I'm not saying that it's time to get rid of Gerard Mayo yet, but it's gotta be the players

06:48that are actually on the field to get Patriots fans back involved.

06:51No, we had this conversation.

06:53Look at the Chargers fans.

06:55Once they hired Hobart and you know, another place, look at the UNC fans.

07:00You don't think that they got a bump from hiring Bill Belichick?

07:02I mean, that is a completely different, did BC get a bump from hiring Billy O'Brien?

07:08Yeah.

07:09Right.

07:10So, so no, because when you're talking college versus the pros, no, no, but I'm talking about

07:13a coach that already has a name.

07:16You don't think it legitimizes the operation?

07:21Here's what I would say.

07:22Let's pick a team out there right now.

07:24Let's say Jacksonville, say Jacksonville hired John Gruden.

07:28Is that your favorite team?

07:30Of course.

07:31Yeah.

07:32You don't think that the Jacksonville would get a bump from fans if they hired John Gruden?

07:36Yeah.

07:38I mean, and Vrabel has that type of cachet.

07:41I agree with you if it's Ben Johnson or if it's Bobby Schlowick, but when it's an established

07:46guy with a name, guys like Hobart, guys like Vrabel, a guy like, um, when Denver hired

07:53Sean Payton, fans got instant bump.

07:56They had a chance, text Subaru of New England text line, had a chance to get Vrabel last

08:01year.

08:02What makes you think that the crafts would change?

08:04I see.

08:05That's why I don't think they don't.

08:06I don't think they even considered Vrabel because they had already promised contractually

08:10the job to Gerard Mayo.

08:11Right.

08:12And that, but that's why I believe that, which was dumb.

08:14It is dumb.

08:15And I don't disagree with you, but they are.

08:17It's almost like you, you've kind of, you, you like, you know, that whole saying you,

08:22you lying in your bed or you made your bed.

08:24Now you got to lie in it.

08:25I almost look at it where they made the mistake by saying it was Mayo.

08:30Now they have to go down this road for at least two years.

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