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Sec. RFK Jr. Admits To Andy Kim To Making A 'Couple Of Mistakes' With Their HHS Cuts
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At a Senate Health Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Andy Kim (D-NJ) questioned HHS Sec. RFK Jr. about cuts made to 9/11 firefighter programs.
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Senator Kim. Thank You Chairman, Secretary. I wanted to just relay I had a
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town hall I had a fire captain show up to this town hall as somebody who worked
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at Ground Zero and he is somebody who said he was diagnosed with cancer he
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said he's on borrowed time and he was livid absolutely livid about what he
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said the administration gutting the World Trade Center health program and
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we've talked through some of these cuts that have happened before some staff
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cuts some may be brought back on the administrator cut I just need to hear
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from you I promise this fire captain I'd ask you about this and what in the world
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happened why was the staff cut for this program what are we to expect going
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forward I restored the staff to the program why was it cut to start with it
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was you know it was part of the overall budget cuts our agency was asked to
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make very very serious budget cuts that were going to be painful and and some of
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them should not have been made and that was one that should not have and I
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reversed it were you unaware or were you aware that the decision to cut NIOSH staff
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would cut that World Trade Center health program well you know my my agency is the
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biggest agency in government it's twice the size of the Pentagon it's represents
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about 20 percent of the US economy we have hundreds of institutes and sub
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agencies we try to be as careful as we can about what we cut and we didn't we
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made a couple of mistakes I don't we're trying to be as careful as you can I mean
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that's the problem that we've seen by rushing these decisions you know this
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was I know in your time there Senator I understand I understand that if you look
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at this from a distance you'd say why don't you just do this surgically and
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cut one person at a time the we have this agency has grown so big so fast and
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every putt buddy who comes in says I'm going to cut it down and nobody's been
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able to do it and there was there was an understanding that the longer that you
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wait the more of the inertia kicks in and we had to act quickly so that we can do
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something for the American people that is lasting and we understood that there
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would be some mistakes made and that we would go back and reverse them when they
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are made but it was a more important to do decisive action quickly that could
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eliminate the the masticizing of this agency to you know which was growing and
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growing growing as our health declined so where is this going to land now can
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you tell us right now that the world health central health program will go
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back to where was before you became secretary that program will continue there
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will be continuity in that program continue yes but at full strength of where
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was before you were secretary the program itself will continue well look the
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fire captain always also raised this issue about the National Firefighter
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Cancer Registry also something I promised him I'd ask you about why was that
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shut down cancer I don't know about that you don't know about this no okay well
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look what I'll just tell you is I'm happy to work with you on it there's a
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National Firefighter Cancer Registry and this is something that's part of NIOSH and
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because of the cuts when I go to the website as I am right now it says the
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information on this page is not currently being updated and access to tool is
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limited firefighters can no longer enroll in the National Firefighter
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Registry for cancer so I just raises because this is incredibly important not
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just for those that were at ground zero but just writ large across our nation to try to help our firefighters so can you
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promise me that we will work together and try to get this back up and running as
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soon as I will work with you on this issue senator yeah look I understand what
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you were saying when it comes to your prioritization but I will tell you it is
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sending an absolutely disastrous message especially to our firefighters I mean I
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hope that on the list of things in this Congress that we think are
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bipartisan are unanimous it should be about supporting our heroes at the World Trade
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Center especially when we have more firefighters who have died since 9-11
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because of medical issues that they had working there at ground zero then those
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number of firefighters that died on September 11th and so if we can't even
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agree on that if that is not seen as a high enough priority to try to protect
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then I am worried about everything else that is more controversial has less
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unanimity so secretary I will follow up with you on the National Registry and I do
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want a firm answer on you on what is the final staffing at the World Trade Center
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health program and with that I'll yield back thank you
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