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During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA) spoke about the Trump administration's immigration policies.
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00:00the record. Senator Padilla. Thank you, Mr. Chair. One of the first things I want to clarify,
00:09something I keep hearing, not just during this hearing, but for months and months now from the
00:17Trump administration, that they're going after the worst of the worst. That's the soundbite,
00:22that's the rhetoric. And their aggressive show of force is accomplishing the goal. That's their
00:28claim. The way they present it, the way they talk about President Biden's administration and prior
00:34Democratic administrations is like it was never a priority for Democratic administrations to go
00:41after criminals and that Democrats and Democratic administrations just didn't care about the
00:46presence of dangerous people in our communities. Simply not true. So I want to help set the record
00:54straight. And again, if you can't take my word for it, let's turn to an expert.
01:02Ms. Fleshaker, you were in ICE leadership. In your view, in your experience, did the Biden
01:07administration ever restrain ICE from pursuing serious criminals? Part B to that question,
01:13only because one of the other witnesses implied that the Biden administration was restraining ICE,
01:20either by policy or by resources from doing its job. True or false? Can you expand on both of those,
01:25please?
01:28We absolutely did not stop ICE agents from enforcing the law and going after public safety threats.
01:35In fact, we encouraged them to do so. We very much want to find and arrest public safety threats in the
01:41community.
01:41Well, thank you for that. And anybody on this side of the diocese, similar with
01:46the appropriations process in Congress, particularly in the Senate, given the filibuster rules, knows that
01:54spending plans are adopted on a bipartisan basis, on a bipartisan basis. So we can
02:02discuss and debate the need for additional investments in not just enforcement, but as I mentioned
02:08previously, immigration judges, hearing officers, etc. In fact, not too long ago, there was a bipartisan
02:17proposal on the table to significantly ramp up the budgets for those agencies. And Republicans walked
02:24away from that deal. That's a fact. Second area I want to tackle is in the area of indiscriminate
02:32enforcement. Just by show of hands, by the way, raise your hand if you think all immigrants are
02:39criminals.
02:39I'm very precise in my question. Very precise in my question. Raise your hand if you believe
02:53all immigrants are criminals. Are you talking about illegal immigrants or are you talking about
02:57regular immigrants?
02:58Microphone.
02:59All immigrants. I'm using my words very precisely.
03:02Are you talking about illegal immigrants or immigrants who came here legally and did it the
03:07right way? Which one?
03:08By a show of hands. Raise your hand if you believe all immigrants are criminals.
03:10Well, that's not going to be a proper answer to that.
03:13Or even most.
03:14No. All illegal immigrants are criminals because they came here illegally.
03:19So I don't think anyone here would disagree with the idea of rooting out the, quote, worst
03:24of the worst, even if we disagree over what immigration policy should be. But I believe it's
03:30unacceptable that these raids are so indiscriminate that they end up sweeping up people with no
03:35history of violent crime. Hardworking people trying to give their children a better life like
03:43Alejandro's father. Narciso.
03:48Alejandro, question is for you. First of all, I'm so sorry about what happened to your father
03:52and what your family's been going through. Targeting somebody like him does not seem to make the
03:58community, the state of California, or the country any safer. And it's an insult to our history of
04:04welcoming people who want a better life. Now, I agree we need to modernize our immigration system to
04:10make you more strategic, more effective. Is there anything else that you would like to share
04:15about the cruelty with which your father was treated or what your family's gone through?
04:21I think that the way they treated him and the way they handled that situation was very
04:27unprofessional. It showed
04:29men who were not trained. It doesn't seem like it. They were running with fingers.
04:36They're running with guns in their hand with fingers on the trigger, pointing it at
04:40civilian vehicles. And honestly, I don't think that's for the best of public safety.
04:47And I believe that they should have better training and go out and chase after the real criminals.
04:56Well, I couldn't agree more. And the more resources, personnel funding, and otherwise that's
05:03directed at, again, just broad-based enforcement is less focus, less prioritization of those violent
05:13criminals that we know are out there, the administration knows are out there, but they're
05:17not the clear priority or focus. If I may, Mr. Chairman, just one more question in this round.
05:23We know that the massive show of force by the Department of Homeland Security
05:28has scared people across communities, not just Los Angeles, not just throughout my home state of
05:34California, but other parts of the country, to the point that we're now seeing people hesitate to go
05:39to work, hesitate to patronize stores, and to visit public spaces, even go to church.
05:46So I'm deeply concerned that this fear will also deter people from reporting crimes like
05:52domestic violence, sexual assault, robbery, etc.
05:57Dr. Valise, you have three decades of experience encouraging community members to come out of the
06:03shadows and trust you and your officers to report crime, to engage in law enforcement, to improve
06:10public safety. You spoke to this a little bit during your opening statement, but can you describe the
06:15impact of these indiscriminate raids on the types of relationships that you trained your officers
06:20to build with immigrant communities?
06:22Thank you, Senator Padilla, for the question. So under my leadership, Senator Padilla,
06:26we spent days, years, weeks, I spent 30 years building trust. Trust is the fulcrum
06:34to crime reduction, to the safety committee members, to the safety police officers.
06:38This is an ongoing day, daily, through every single interactions. When the community have the
06:45perception that we're involved in immigration enforcement, they are not going to come forward
06:50and report crimes. They're not going to come forward and access police services.
06:55Those, what's going to happen is, that will increase the percentage for these
07:00immigrant communities to be revitalized by violent offenders. And once again, that will put
07:12greater rates for police officers. Community members are the ones who are home in their community 24-7.
07:19They are our eyes and ears when we respond and we try to reduce crime.
07:23Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have additional questions. I'll wait for the next round.
07:29Senator Moody. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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