- 5 months ago
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00This is not a game. This is a 12-week job interview. Never, ever, ever, underestimate me.
00:1514 people came to London in search of a job.
00:19I don't like liars. I don't like cheats. I don't like bullshitters. I don't like schmoozers.
00:30I don't like arse liquors.
00:35They've come to battle it out for a job with Sir Alan Sugar.
00:38I would have told you to piss off.
00:40Tough and uncompromising, Sir Alan is at the top of his game with a global empire worth 700 million pounds.
00:50He's offering one job with a six-figure salary.
00:53I'm gonna fucking win this night if it kills me.
00:56To get it, they'll have to work and live together and face a weekly business task.
01:02You can't fucking fire me!
01:04Do you feel the pressure is building?
01:06This is the ultimate job interview.
01:08You're fired. You're fired. You're fired.
01:10The ultimate job interview.
01:14The ultimate job interview.
01:16The ultimate job interview.
01:18Last week on The Apprentice, James and Saira had the last laugh.
01:23Ha ha ha!
01:24Ha ha ha!
01:26Faced with the challenge of selling on TV.
01:29We're going to move on to the next item, because this is the wolf jacket.
01:36Saira was keen to show she was more than just a saleswoman.
01:41James was the presenter, but Saira still had a lot to say.
01:44Well done. Now play with your toy. Show them the big face at the front.
01:49It's got a wonderful, wonderful big face at the front.
01:53On the other team...
01:54I've got some amazing products for a...
01:56Project manager Miriam was such a natural...
01:58We're already selling, Min. We're already selling.
02:00...but Tim and Paul felt confident enough to limit their comments to compliments.
02:05Brilliant smile.
02:07Miriam looked the part on screen, but her team still lost.
02:14In the boardroom, Sir Alan asked Miriam who deserved to be let off the hook.
02:19Probably Tim.
02:22Paul, you are a renegade.
02:24I'm sorry, Paul. I'm very sorry. I do like you as a person. I'm sorry to have to say these things to you.
02:34But I'm even more sorry when I've got to tell you, Miriam...
02:37...you're fired.
02:38You're fired.
02:43Miriam became the 10th casualty of the boardroom.
02:47You know I've made mistakes in the past. Maybe I've made a mistake here, but we'll see.
02:53What the hell happened there? But when he came straight to me, I thought that's it.
02:56You know, I started straightening my tie. I see a lot of you in me.
02:59But Paul, it breaks my heart. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I thought, stop the engine.
03:04Mim, you're fired.
03:06Now only four remain.
03:09To fight for the chance to become The Apprentice.
03:12This is really sad.
03:25It's getting a bit scared. I feel a bit scared about things now.
03:28It's like the last four and it's all getting a bit too pressured.
03:32I agree.
03:34At the house, Syrah and James have no idea who will be returning.
03:38If I was Sir Alan and I was looking for the final four, I would have got rid of Paul.
03:44Sir Alan has had plenty of opportunity to fire Paul before and he hasn't.
03:47He hasn't.
03:48And he saved him.
03:50Every time he goes into that boardroom, he fights so hard.
03:53Sir Alan only sees what he sees in the boardroom.
03:57So in terms of trustworthiness, respect, telling the truth, all that, Sir Alan doesn't see all of that.
04:03I know.
04:04He just defies every single one of those things.
04:16Hey!
04:18I am my son!
04:21We knew you were coming back in the Cheshire Cat. You've done it again.
04:25How many lives have you got?
04:27Five left.
04:29This is a story I want to hear.
04:30We're here.
04:31I'm coming.
04:32Well done.
04:33Final four.
04:34Well done, mate.
04:35How tall are you?
04:37Glad to see you here, mate.
04:39Was it between you and Miriam?
04:41No.
04:42He said to Miriam, if I let one of you three swim away, Miriam, who shall I let swim away?
04:49Hypothetically.
04:50Yeah.
04:51And she said, Tim.
04:52So he said to me, Paul, does that surprise you?
04:53I said, no, it doesn't surprise me.
04:55He said, why?
04:56He said, because Miriam doesn't really like me.
04:58But she likes Tim.
05:00So...
05:01And then Sarah went back to her and said, you think Paul is an arrogant git?
05:04And she went, not a git.
05:06Not a git, but yeah.
05:08He's an arrogant git.
05:10And Paul went back and said, well, the fact is, when I'm good at something, I'll tell everybody
05:15I'm good at it.
05:16I'm good at it.
05:17I'm good at it.
05:18I'm good at it.
05:45Hello.
05:46Sarah speaking.
05:47Hello, it's Frances here from Sir Alan's office.
05:48Hello, Frances.
05:49Hello.
05:50Can you please be ready to leave the house tomorrow morning at 6.45am?
05:51Yep.
05:52You need to have your suitcases packed.
05:53Suitcases packed.
05:54Guys, we've just got a phone call.
05:55Boys.
05:56Yeah?
05:57We've got a phone call.
05:58What happened?
05:59Frances.
06:00Yeah?
06:01That's Paul.
06:02He's coming.
06:03He's in the garden.
06:04He's coming.
06:05He's coming.
06:06He's in the garden.
06:07He's coming.
06:08He's coming.
06:09He's coming.
06:10He's coming.
06:11He's coming.
06:12He's coming.
06:13He's coming.
06:14He's in the garden.
06:156.45am.
06:16We're leaving tomorrow morning.
06:18And all she said is have your suitcases packed.
06:21We're leaving the house.
06:22Oh, my God.
06:23I'm going to better start packing.
06:24Better start packing.
06:25OK.
06:43This week, the candidates face a very different challenge.
06:58They've been called to Sir Alan's Business HQ for a briefing.
07:02You may be wondering what we're going to get up to today.
07:06You may also be wondering about some of these new faces that you see here.
07:09And what's going to happen is that you lot are going to go through a gruelling interview.
07:15And at the end of the interview session, they're going to sit down with me and they're going to give me their opinion about whether any of you here are worthy of working for me.
07:25Nick and Margaret are very well known to you.
07:28Now, Claude, he's actually been in Denmark for me.
07:31He's been in Paris.
07:32He's actually ran Tottenham Hotspur for quite a while.
07:35That's why he's lost a bit of hair.
07:37Borden has been in Australia.
07:39He's been in Italy and currently runs our computer organisation at Vigeland.
07:44Paul doesn't actually work for me, but he's associated with me, OK?
07:48He's a very successful businessman in his own right.
07:51And he's here to give me a view from a younger perspective.
07:54This whole process has never ever been a joke as far as I'm concerned, OK?
07:59And I don't want any of you to think that I personally are going to be persuaded by what television companies and production companies want to see and want to hear in choosing the person that's going to come and work for me, OK?
08:11Get that right in your heads.
08:13Get it right in your heads, because I mean it.
08:15Because seriously, there's a job here for somebody, OK?
08:18And if you might have thought throughout the course of this exercise that it's been a bit of a game, well, I can understand you having those feelings.
08:25But look at me.
08:26Look at my eyes.
08:27I'm telling you I don't give a monkey's about what they think.
08:30I don't listen to what they tell me, and I don't listen to what any television company tells me what to do.
08:35I'm looking for somebody to work for me, all right?
08:38Serious.
08:39Dead serious.
08:40Got it?
08:41Got it.
08:42OK.
08:43Well, you know, at the end of this process, any one of you is going to be fired.
08:51Over the next few hours, each candidate will be interviewed by Sir Alan's three new advisers.
08:59And by his trusted aides, Nick and Margaret.
09:02The interviewers will grill the candidates on both their professional and personal lives.
09:15Hello.
09:16Hi.
09:17Hello, Paul.
09:18Oh, not too bad.
09:19Good to meet you.
09:20You too.
09:23Who do you think is going to win?
09:24Me.
09:25I've got a problem with you.
09:26OK.
09:27OK.
09:28I mean, yes, I'm Italian.
09:29I do have a temper.
09:30Definitely.
09:31That's not an excuse for having a temper.
09:33I don't think it's any mistake that out of the ten tasks that we've done today, I've been on the winning team eight times.
09:38You're not really interested in money or you are interested in money?
09:40I am interested in money, but it's not the main thing for me.
09:42Are you here for the money?
09:43Money's a part of it.
09:44There isn't any bullshit factor.
09:46Mm-hmm.
09:47Sorry, you're a self-confessed liar, aren't you?
09:50Not really.
09:51Not really.
09:52You're deceived in your CV.
09:53I mean, it says it quite clearly here.
09:55Yes, I lied on my CV.
09:57I changed the dates so that it looked like I was in a role for 12 months when, in fact, I was in a position for six months.
10:03People look at things and they make a judgement on, you know, what it says on your CV.
10:09Now, I know I'm capable of doing most things that I put my mind to.
10:13And in order to get a foot through the door, I had to make sure that I wasn't kind of discriminated against in any way.
10:21And I know I'm not the only person that does that.
10:24So you're prepared to lie to get on in life?
10:26I'm not prepared to lie.
10:27I'm prepared to bend the rules within reason.
10:31That's what I'm prepared to do.
10:32Right.
10:33At the end of the day, I want to work for Sir Alan Sugar.
10:37And why I want this job is because I respect Sir Alan.
10:41I like his values.
10:42I like the fact that he's straight talking.
10:44Do you think you're straight talking?
10:45Absolutely.
10:46You do?
10:47Absolutely.
10:48You don't think you just tell people what they want to hear?
10:50I'm a saleswoman.
10:51And let's be very clear.
10:52I know that.
10:53I can see from you.
10:54I'm a saleswoman.
10:55And if I can read body language, I have to think what other people want to hear sometimes.
11:00So what's my body language telling you?
11:02I think your body language is saying she's got to convince me a bit more.
11:05I'm not that convinced by her at the moment.
11:07No, you're right.
11:08I'm not convinced by you.
11:09I'm not convinced by you.
11:10I'm not convinced by you.
11:11I'm not convinced by you.
11:12On a scale of ten, where would you grade yourself?
11:14Sales and marketing, I would say nine and a half.
11:16So you're that good?
11:17I'm that good, but there's room for improvement.
11:19Right.
11:20What I've demonstrated so far is that any situation that you want to put me in, I think I could
11:24probably cope, survive and thrive.
11:26Right.
11:27However, I think there are things which I'm very good at.
11:31Uh-huh.
11:32Fire list of the young property personality of the year 2004.
11:34Yes.
11:35Well, that's fairly recent.
11:36Yes.
11:37So you have got a flair for property.
11:39Yes.
11:40But I don't think it's as challenging or as exciting as what's potentially offered.
11:43As being on television?
11:44Uh, I didn't pick this because I wanted to be on telly.
11:46Oh.
11:47If I wanted to just be on telly, there are other things I can go and do.
11:49I've got an actor brother and a cellist brother and, you know, I think to pick, I think all
11:54the people who started on this, none of them were aspiring wannabes.
11:58I want this job.
11:59I'm not here for TV.
12:01I said to people before when they asked me in interviews, would you do this without TV?
12:05A hundred percent.
12:06Yes, because this is a unique opportunity.
12:08It's a, yeah, I want it basically.
12:10Right.
12:11And what's unique about you then?
12:12What's unique about me is that my personality is effervescent.
12:16It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's magnetism, just, you know what I mean?
12:19I can work with anybody from shop floor to boardroom, um, on the street, in an office,
12:24whatever it needs, and I can mix with everybody because of where I've come from.
12:27So you consider yourself a bit of a chameleon?
12:29Yeah, I want you to change.
12:30Yeah, definitely.
12:31The fact of situations, yeah?
12:32Yeah, definitely.
12:33Now, you, you, because you've had a fairly, uh, limited past in terms of career successes
12:39and, and, and achievements, you've managed to, uh, describe what essentially is a,
12:44somebody who works in the ticket office at a train station.
12:47Yep.
12:48There's, there's a lot more than that.
12:49Do you think you're trying it on today?
12:50Um, well, I'm trying to impress you.
12:51I'm trying to impress everybody that I've seen.
12:53Mm.
12:54Do you think you've got a nerve to come for this job?
12:56Of course I have.
12:57I have a right to come for this job.
12:58There was like 6,000 people I applied, I got through, and it wasn't by accident.
13:01And I've got through to the last four, not by accident either.
13:03How do you feel about being in the last four?
13:05Um, excited, nervous, um, eager for the challenge.
13:10Do you keep your cool?
13:11Um, yeah.
13:12There's times when I lose my temper, definitely.
13:14Well, I mean, there's a particular time I'm talking about in your background and resume
13:17where you really lost your temper, isn't it?
13:19Is there?
13:20I don't know.
13:21You tell me.
13:22I thought you just said that there was a time.
13:23Yeah, but there is a time, isn't there?
13:24In your background.
13:25Being drunk and disorderly, I mean, is, is drinking a big part of your life or not really?
13:29I mean, do you drink when you're under pressure?
13:31You've got that completely incorrect.
13:32Right.
13:33I wasn't drunk and disorderly.
13:34Right.
13:35What were you then?
13:36I've had my colour felt twice.
13:38Firstly, I had some property in North...
13:40So you weren't convicted of being disorderly?
13:42Er, it was a section...
13:43Disorderly behaviour.
13:44It was a section B public order offence.
13:46Right.
13:47Nothing to do with drinking.
13:48Right, it was nothing.
13:49So you were disorderly without drink?
13:50Yeah.
13:52I'm really happy that I've got this far, but I do believe that I am one of the...
13:56The chosen?
13:57One of the chosen few, yeah.
13:59Okay.
14:00Do you get on well with the other candidates?
14:02I do.
14:03I haven't had a single argument or altercation with them.
14:06They know that you think you're the best?
14:09They know that I think highly of myself, yeah.
14:11No, you think you're the best.
14:12You think you're the winner.
14:14I do think that I am the one that will get the job.
14:17You do?
14:18Definitely.
14:19Thank you very much.
14:20Nice to meet you.
14:21Finally, after four long hours...
14:23Thanks for your time.
14:24Thank you very much.
14:27It's all over.
14:29And the candidates have a moment to gather their thoughts.
14:33This was the best task to do, because you don't have to rely on anybody else.
14:39No, this is down to you.
14:40It's down to you.
14:41If I go, I couldn't have done any better in those interviews.
14:44I just gave it my best, you know, my best shout.
14:47I agree.
14:48You pee?
14:49I found it all quite boring.
14:51Really?
14:52Yeah.
14:53Why?
14:54Because it just was.
14:55Why?
14:56Exactly the same.
14:57They didn't take a different approach with me, I found.
14:59They just, they picked the CVs, you know, you've done this and you've done that.
15:03And I thought to myself, you can go in there with a script and come out of there with eight
15:06out of ten from each interview.
15:08And they didn't really dig into me.
15:10They tried to, but, you know, they didn't.
15:12And at 34, I've been in situations 20 times harder than that in my life.
15:17I'm going to look a right Wally now if I get fired.
15:19But by the same token, I couldn't have performed any better.
15:21It was just, to me, it was just a bit run of the mill.
15:31The candidates must wait outside the boardroom while Sir Alan consults the consultants.
15:40They'll give their judgment on each would-be apprentice, starting with 34-year-old James
15:45Max.
15:47People may have a stereotypical view of what I might be like.
15:50Either from how I talk or how I present myself, to indeed, you know, some of the smiles
15:55and the flippancy.
15:56And they may not necessarily want to or take the time to get to know the real James.
16:02The real James has been on the winning team in eight out of ten tasks.
16:07That makes him the most successful candidate.
16:10He's also the only one to have been paid a six-figure salary as an investment banker.
16:17Well, Alan, I'm not that positive about James.
16:21I don't even know what he was doing here this morning.
16:23I mean, to me, he's not an apprentice, yeah?
16:26He's a graduate surveyor.
16:28I've seen hundreds of them. I'm sure you have.
16:30I didn't see any raw talent in him. I think he's bright.
16:34But I think if you put an advert in the standard, you'd see plenty of those guys.
16:39I also don't actually think that he's here for the right reasons.
16:43That was the feeling I got.
16:44What do you mean by that?
16:45I don't remember that.
16:46I think he's here for the cameras, Alan. I don't think he's looking at this job.
16:49I think he had an air of aloofness around him, as if he was better than what you were looking for.
16:55And I don't think he is.
16:56So, switching completely to the other end, to Nick and Margaret, the same guy, James.
17:01He's a very presentable guy. I asked him how long it would take to get from Knightsbridge to Brentwood in his Aston Martin.
17:09And he wasn't altogether sure.
17:12One of the things on his resume was that when he'd been asked what he didn't like.
17:17And one of the things was this group of initials, H-K-L-P.
17:22And I thought, well, I don't know what that means.
17:24But then nobody knew what it meant, so we asked him.
17:26This is very rude, but nevertheless, H-K-L-P is actually holds knife like pen.
17:34And I was always taught to hold my cutler in a certain way.
17:39And it just brings me out in bristles when people don't.
17:43So, I mean...
17:45Overall...
17:46What message am I getting from you two, really?
17:48Overall, if you had it in mind to really grow your property business in a big way,
17:55and you wanted somebody to go out looking for acquisitions of the four,
17:59he's the only one that could do it.
18:01Borden?
18:02I absolutely concur with what you're saying.
18:05He...
18:06It struck me he wasn't here to win.
18:07There's something else that's in his agenda.
18:09You know, financially, he's obviously earning a lot more than this position.
18:13Yeah.
18:14That's an interesting...
18:15Did anybody broach that?
18:16Yeah, he said he wanted to learn something new, didn't he?
18:19He didn't want to do another property fund, which is the last thing he's done.
18:22I'm not sure he totally understood where you're at and what you're doing
18:27and how he could contribute to that.
18:29I think in terms of, does he want to be an apprentice?
18:31Does he want to get stuck in?
18:32Does he want to deliver something?
18:34I'm not sure.
18:35Okay.
18:36Let's talk about Sarah.
18:38Sarah.
18:39Over the past ten weeks, 34-year-old saleswoman Sarah Khan has enjoyed spectacular success and dismal failure.
18:50I think I'm a strong person and I'm equal to any man out there and I've shown stamina and strength, stand up for myself and I'm proud.
18:59And I hope all the women out there are going to root for me and, you know, kind of say, well, yeah, well done, Sarah, you know, good for you for representing us.
19:07Let's start off with Margaret and Nick here again. Margaret perhaps?
19:11Yeah, I think, I mean, she's first and foremost a salesperson that's come through. She's had a lot of different jobs, she's moved around a lot.
19:18She's loud, she's aggressive and forceful and sometimes people just don't much care for that sort of thing.
19:24You refer to yourself as being somebody who is impulsive, impatient, unreasonable, stubborn, confrontational.
19:30Now, to an employer, that is red rag.
19:35I don't think they're negative skills. People can look at those and say, well, you know, blimey, I can't handle that.
19:42Put me in a business situation, those skills then become actually quite important.
19:46When we started off, I looked at her resume and I thought, I'm not going to like this person.
19:50Too aggressive, too combative.
19:52But as I got to speak to her and discuss things with her, I could see that she is a forceful salesperson.
19:57So if you've got a sales role in mind for her, I think she'd be a fine choice for you.
20:01Anything else? She's unproven.
20:03Unproven?
20:04Her comfort zone is sales.
20:07Paul?
20:08I saw the saleswoman in her and she wasn't selling to me.
20:12I liked her, but I just think there's a lack of substance there.
20:15She's just a good sales lady.
20:17And I don't know if that constitutes what I would call a good apprentice.
20:22Let's go to the youngest candidate, Tim.
20:2627-year-old Tim Campbell has only ever worked for London Underground.
20:32A graduate trainee, he's fought his way up to middle management.
20:37I'm completely excited, I'm so excited about being in the Final Four, it's unbelievable.
20:42It was always a goal to make sure I got to this stage and then be ready to go into the final stage.
20:48But when you're actually going through the task, you meet the people who you think, you think,
20:51bloody hell, there's a lot of clever people around here.
20:53Not to say that I'm any stupid idiot, but the fact is, these people have got a lot more experience than I ever had.
20:59So why are you so driven? What is it in your character and make-up that makes you want to achieve more?
21:03I think it comes from my mother. Basically, she brought three kids up by herself and she was...
21:09She never complained working three jobs with three kids and making sure that she gave everything that was necessary to us.
21:17To turn around now and be a lazy bum would be disrespectful to my mother.
21:21He's 27, so a 27-year-old man, you can't expect a lifetime of experience.
21:27I think, though, that his experience is very limited.
21:30I'm just concerned about how you're going to be able to get anything worthwhile out of him.
21:35Paul?
21:37If our job was to unearth a gem today, I think Tim's the gem.
21:43When the lights go down and everybody's stopped watching you, are you going to cope?
21:47Or are you just good in front of the cameras?
21:49The fact is, the cameras haven't been on me 24 hours a day.
21:53And the fact is, I've worked 100% of the time throughout those 24 hours a day.
21:56You ask anybody I've worked with in any single team and they'll tell you Tim doesn't stop.
21:59If Tim's on a task, Tim doesn't go to the toilet, Tim doesn't eat, Tim doesn't smoke, Tim just goes full on.
22:04How tough have you found today in relation to the rest of the tasks that you've undertaken?
22:08Today's been the easiest for me.
22:09It's been the easiest, has it?
22:10The easiest for me, for the simple reason, it's me against somebody else.
22:13I don't have to worry about Tim.
22:14You think you're against me, do you?
22:15To a degree, yes.
22:16There is a kind of battle in terms of, not an antagonistic battle, but there's a challenge there in terms of you need to get something from me and I have to give you something.
22:25And if they don't match, then that's it. Curtains.
22:28Right.
22:29In my business, I have to go and find deals, yeah? He would be my deal.
22:38Really?
22:41Okay, erm, Paul.
22:4534-year-old Paul Teresi has never been afraid to speak his mind.
22:50I can sell anything.
22:51Well, you didn't.
22:52No, I resent that.
22:53He's ended up in the firing line four times.
22:58Why shouldn't I fire you, Paul?
22:59I haven't done anything wrong.
23:02Why should you fire me?
23:03But his confrontational style has won him favour with Sir Alan.
23:07If I were Sir Alan, I would employ me.
23:10But, Claude?
23:11Well, my view is that, erm, you've got a complex character, very aggressive, unnecessarily fiery, and I think that, erm, clearly, you'd have trouble with him, he'd have trouble with you.
23:24It's not, it's not a marriage made in heaven, this one.
23:27Frankly, I'm surprised he's made the semi-finals.
23:29I've got serious issues with this young man.
23:33He came into the interview very, very aggressive.
23:37I own some property in Newcastle.
23:40Some, er, offices, er, shops, that kind of thing.
23:43What, what value?
23:45Mmm, three, three and a half.
23:47Three, three and a half million pounds worth of property you've got?
23:49Yeah.
23:50And what sort of mortgages have you got on that?
23:52Erm...
23:55I have mortgages on them.
23:57You've got mortgages on.
23:58Yeah.
23:59What level of mortgages?
24:00I'm trying to establish, Paul, yeah, what you've achieved before you came for this job.
24:03Right.
24:04And whether or not you, in fact, need this job.
24:05Yeah.
24:06You've got three, three and a half million pounds worth of property in Newcastle.
24:08Yeah.
24:09Surely it's a perfectly reasonable question for me to ask.
24:12Yeah.
24:13Yeah, if you've been successful in property.
24:14Yeah.
24:15Yeah?
24:16What are the fruits of that success?
24:18What do you own?
24:19So you've said you've got some office buildings and some residential units, particularly in Newcastle.
24:23Yeah.
24:24I've got some property in London as well.
24:25And you've got some property in London.
24:26And the Caribbean.
24:27I mean, you sound a bit of a...
24:28And the Caribbean.
24:29And in France as well.
24:30Wow.
24:31I mean, you sound quite successful, Paul.
24:32I've not done bad, but I don't want to sound like...
24:33I mean, the reason I say that is I happen to be in the property business too.
24:36Right.
24:37Yeah?
24:38And I wouldn't be sitting here looking for a job with Alan Sugar.
24:40Yeah?
24:41Because I've got an existing successful business.
24:42Right.
24:43You strike me that you have too.
24:46Yeah?
24:47Unless, of course, you've got carried away and we've gone down an avenue perhaps you didn't
24:52plan on going down.
24:53And you may have exaggerated things a little.
24:55No, not at all.
24:56I don't know.
24:57What I've said is utterly the truth.
24:58The fact that I'm not prepared to discuss finance should lead you to think that I'm not here
25:02for the cameras, but I'm here, you know, for proper media.
25:05But it doesn't need me to believe that at all as it happens, but it doesn't matter.
25:08You've said in your...
25:10Towards the end of the interview, I've started to like him a bit more.
25:13But I think that with him, I just got the impression that he felt, you know, he'd achieved
25:19everything and actually if you were lucky, he might consider joining you.
25:23That's the impression I got.
25:25I see.
25:26I think that the fact that he's looking for someone shows that there is something that
25:31he's not happy with within his organisation.
25:33Why do you think that?
25:35Because he's going down this road.
25:37He's taking time out himself.
25:38I can imagine just how busy he is.
25:40I'd be quite intrigued to see that he's going to take someone off the street on an apprentice
25:45and actually start taking instructions or their view.
25:48I don't think he's too big for that.
25:50I think he's magnanimous enough to realise that if there's something wrong, and you see,
25:55I'm guilty of the same thing.
25:57When someone has their own company, it's their little baby.
26:00But it shows a lot about his character that he could stand back and say, right, I need
26:03someone to be able to look in here and say, right, what's the problem here?
26:06Why aren't we making, why aren't we turning over the door?
26:08So I'm a bit confused then because I thought the name of the programme was The Apprentice.
26:12Right.
26:13I thought you were coming to learn.
26:14Yes, but in that case, why doesn't he get some spotty-faced teenager at 17 years old
26:19rather than someone that's 34 years old or 36 or 39 at 40?
26:22You tell me.
26:23It's called The Apprentice.
26:24That's what you've come here for.
26:25Yes.
26:26He's here to be apprentices to Sir Alan.
26:27Mm-hm.
26:28But by the same token, I think he wants someone with some experience.
26:31I think he got confused.
26:33I don't think he knows that he's here to be an apprentice.
26:36I think he's here, in fact, to be your troubleshooter to help put all your wrongs and ills to right.
26:42Troublemaker, maybe.
26:43Oh, maybe.
26:44But certainly, you know, the thing was he was here to fix the group's issues.
26:49A fixer?
26:50A fixer?
26:51Because we've got problems.
26:52Yeah, absolutely.
26:53Well, I think he got confused.
26:54He thinks I need him.
26:55Is that what you're saying?
26:56I think he got confused.
26:57Is that the impression you've got?
26:58Like, I need him.
26:59Yeah.
27:00Can I just say one thing in Paul's defence, yeah?
27:02I'd like to say something in the defence.
27:03Because I think he's taking a terrible hammering this afternoon.
27:06When you fire with fire with Paul, when it's clear that you're not going to listen to his crap, yeah,
27:13and you tell him to calm down or he learns that he needs to calm down, then he becomes far more personable and better to talk to.
27:20Actually, I'd like to add something in his favour as well.
27:23I mean, if you were prepared to put the time in with him, I think he's got the attributes that could be tamed, but it would need your time.
27:32It looks to me that it doesn't matter who I pick here, there's going to need to be a lot of investment.
27:38Alan, if you're going to spend time with someone, there's no point in spending time with someone like A, Paul, who thinks he knows it all,
27:45and James, who's probably too long in the tooth to be taught.
27:48He's only 34.
27:49He's only 34.
27:50He's a graduate, he's been taught in a certain way, and if Alan's going to spend time with him, Alan's going to teach them his way,
27:55you've got to start with a raw product, yeah?
27:57I agree.
27:58And the raw product is not James.
27:59I don't agree.
28:00James is a graduate surveyor who, if it wasn't The Apprentice, he would apply for Blind Date or any other show, yeah?
28:07That's what I saw in James.
28:09Margaret and Nick.
28:10Who?
28:11Who do you think some of them are an impossible task?
28:14Let me tell you, I'm discounting Paul, if I can just kick off.
28:18It's up to you.
28:19Sarah, I think you could put into a sales situation and not actually need to spend too much time with,
28:25because I think it would be a waste of your time, because that's where she's good and, you know, just popping up.
28:30Well, the point is, is sales enough?
28:32I mean, you know, the thing is, is sales enough?
28:34Well, no.
28:35You see, you see, the importance of people, like Borden is a good salesman, but he's also, he's a seller and a buyer.
28:47I think she, I think she's a buyer as well.
28:49I think she's, she's very good at negotiating, so I think she'd negotiate well buying as she would selling.
28:56Claude?
28:57You can't ask for something of somebody who hasn't got it.
29:01Right.
29:02So, um, Tim can be a very, very quick learner, but I...
29:04You don't think he's got it?
29:05I'm not, I, I...
29:06You haven't given him a chance to get it, Claude, have you?
29:08I'm not.
29:09That's fine.
29:10Look, it's just a perception.
29:11I saw the guy for half an hour, one has to make judgements.
29:14I think we're half an hour, and I haven't had the benefit of Margaret and Nick's opportunity of seeing them actually doing tasks, is that he's an extremely nice, likeable fellow who's done very, very well.
29:23I'm not sure how much further he's going to go, even with, you know, the input that you might be able to give him.
29:29And if you were going to spend some time with somebody, well, I mean, it depends on the job, but I would have thought that James is the kind of person who is intellectually more able than the others, and even though, you know, you sort of think that he's got ulterior motives for being here, the fact is that if he is here, he's going to be expected to do a job.
29:51And I'm concerned that Tim, if we're just sort of talking about him for a moment, might struggle.
29:57He's a risk.
29:58Well, you've got to remember what the role is here.
30:01It's an apprentice role here.
30:02You know, you've got to find out whether the guy's up for it, whether he's got the grade.
30:06OK.
30:07Well, look, guys, again, this has been great.
30:09I've got to tell you, it's been much better than I thought.
30:12It's been very useful to take your brains because you know me, and I think I've got a clear direction, OK?
30:21Well, I think I've got to say earlier about the world, I think I've had to try this way.
30:25And now, there are plenty of people who I've had to try.
30:30After two hours, the waiting is over.
30:47The guy with the beard didn't think much to me, huh?
30:50Having successfully completed ten weeks of The Apprentice, the candidates are used to entering the boardroom knowing that one of them will be fired.
31:15But this time they've been told that two will be going home.
31:20MUSIC
31:37James, why on earth do you want to take a pay cut?
31:42I can't get my brain around it and neither can some of my colleagues.
31:45What this opportunity is to me is a chance to work with you and with your team who are very experienced and have a very wide array of business activities.
31:57But James, come on, look, we're not...
32:00I see it as a platform, to be honest.
32:02We're not black, though. I mean, this is Alan Sugar and his organisation, OK.
32:05But you're very entrepreneurial in what you do and what your company does.
32:09And I see it as a springboard and a challenge which I can't get within a big, you know, lovely cuddly organisation.
32:15And what I would like is I would like somebody who says, right, OK, you think you're good enough, prove it.
32:20And I think you would do that.
32:21Because I don't think you want your...
32:22Is it a game?
32:23No.
32:24Is it a game? Prove it and so you prove it to me.
32:26No, it's not a game.
32:27And then you piss off a year later because you've proven it.
32:29No.
32:30It's not a game and it's not a game to give up your job.
32:34And I'm not taking this as a joke.
32:36I'm not taking it as something that I just want to arrive in your office, swan about for a bit and then bugger off.
32:40Because in all my jobs to date, I would say that I've shown commitment and I would like to take it further.
32:46And I want to find a position that allows me to develop my career.
32:50Paul, similar question to you.
32:53You have told my interviewers that, you know, you've got a good business, you ran your dad's business.
33:00You know, it seemed to me that you're quite well-to-do at the moment, set up, well-to-do.
33:05What do you want to come and work for me for?
33:07I want to work for you because I always thought that I was a capable chap.
33:12And the problem that I've had sometimes is that I've had to work for myself
33:18because I wasn't given opportunity to work for big companies.
33:21And I always thought that I had a lot to give a big company.
33:24But Paul, Paul, excuse me, excuse me, you took the giant leap of working for yourself.
33:29To me, that was a fantastic thing when I did that myself, right? It was a brave move.
33:34And I'll tell you what, wild horses would have dragged me back to working for someone else again.
33:39Ultimately, the companies that I have are property-based companies and they can run themselves.
33:43So the way I see it is that working for you, I can put to effect the experience that I've learnt.
33:48But also, I'm not going to go downhill, I'm going to go uphill because I'm taking on an extra salary
33:53and everything else is still coming in as before.
33:55What are you going to be doing if someone's phoning you up telling you you've got a leaking roof somewhere?
33:59Where's your attention going to be? With me or with your business?
34:03Sir Alan, I wouldn't waste anybody's time by being here. I've sacrificed a lot to be here.
34:07I have a pregnant wife at home, I have a nine-year-old boy and I have businesses.
34:11So the fact that I've sacrificed that to be here shows you...
34:14They don't cut with me all that crap. They don't give me all that personal crap here, right?
34:19Because there's also another reason why some people will be here.
34:22Some people might want to come here for the same reason as they go on Big Brother, right?
34:26They want personal fame. I'm looking for somebody who wants a job.
34:29I'm asking you the question, why do you want to work for me?
34:33And if you've got a good business yourself, why don't you stick to working for yourself?
34:37If I don't get this job, I will. But working for you, working for a large organisation
34:43is something that I've always wanted to do, but I was never in the position to do it.
34:46That's why I've had to be self-employed.
34:48Tim.
34:52Tim, the...
34:54The general theme from my advisers and my colleagues that came through their discussions with you
35:03was that you lack real commercial experience. Would you go along with that?
35:09Totally. Well, there's nothing I can say in my CV talks volumes in terms of
35:14compared to other individuals who have been here from the very beginning.
35:17Yeah. Hmm.
35:19My lack of commercial experience is an issue, and I've identified that as myself.
35:24But as I've said, in terms of wanting somebody who has a desire to do the job
35:29and can do the job, I think I have those skills within me. I can do that.
35:34All I need is direction from somebody to put me in the right direction to say,
35:38do this, this is how you do it, get on with it.
35:41And I don't have a problem with doing that.
35:43Yeah.
35:48But...
35:50Young.
35:53Sarah, are you going to piss off everybody that works for me?
35:55No.
35:56You sure? Yeah.
35:57Because you did not do a good job here with some people, you know.
36:00I don't think I've pissed anybody off, Sir Alan.
36:02Do you know if I pissed off?
36:03Well, my worry is, is that I don't sell flowers in the street.
36:07Right.
36:08And, you know, I don't stand shouting with megaphones.
36:11What I do is I have to deal every day of my life
36:15with the buyers of the major chain stores.
36:17Mm-hm.
36:18Shouting at them is going to get you no...
36:20Well, it will get you somewhere.
36:21It will get you through the bloody door.
36:23That's where it will get you.
36:24And you'll never, ever be able to walk in there again.
36:27OK?
36:28Is that going to happen with you?
36:29While I can sell and tackle people to the ground to buy flowers,
36:32I've also stood in a boardroom environment with the toys
36:35and presented professionally to a corporate group of people.
36:39And I think the feedback you would have got from them
36:41would have been very good.
36:42Because I'm looking for more than a salesperson,
36:44as you would appreciate.
36:45I think salespeople come with a lot more, Sir Alan.
36:48What I want you to tell me about is anything apart from selling,
36:52tell me about where you demonstrated to me
36:54that you're not just a one show-in-town person, sales only.
36:58OK.
36:59The farm task that we had to do, the chutney idea,
37:03I think I demonstrated a lot of commercial awareness
37:06and a good bang for business,
37:08because we won that task by a lot of money,
37:11and I was a key pinpoint in that.
37:13A difficult decision.
37:19A very, very difficult decision.
37:21Sarah, have you got the skills, all-round skills?
37:24James has got the all-round skills,
37:27but I'm worried about whether he wants to come to Brentwood Towers.
37:30Just to clarify, I'm happy coming to Brentwood Towers.
37:33I understand that.
37:34Tim, I've read your resume.
37:38Mm-hm.
37:39An East-Tem boy.
37:44Hard upbringing.
37:46Your mum.
37:47She did well.
37:48Oh, she must be very proud of you.
37:50She is.
37:51As another East-Tem boy, I'm also very proud of you,
37:54to see what you've done.
37:57In difficult circumstances.
37:59I'm struggling.
38:03As to whether...
38:08I've got to know me now, as a person,
38:11whether I've got the time...
38:14or the wherewithal, and the patience.
38:17That's what I'm struggling with.
38:26It's a very, very tough thing, you know,
38:28for me to say.
38:37I'm going to let you stay.
38:39James, you haven't convinced me.
38:49I don't think you've got a long-term player for me, to be perfectly honest.
38:52That's my only reason.
38:53I think you've been excellent, very professional.
38:54I'm letting you go.
38:55You're fired.
38:56You're fired.
38:57You're fired.
38:58You're fired.
38:59You're fired.
39:00You're fired.
39:01You're fired.
39:02You're fired.
39:03You're fired.
39:04You're fired.
39:05You're fired.
39:06You're fired.
39:07You're fired.
39:08You're fired.
39:09You're fired.
39:10You're fired.
39:11You're fired.
39:12You're fired.
39:13You're fired.
39:26You're fired.
39:27You're fired.
39:28Thanks.
39:29Paul, I'm an obstinate person.
39:30But even I have learned that when ten people are saying something to you, and you still want to do something else, then even if you're a kid, you're a kid.
39:36You're an obstinate person.
39:37You're an obstinate person.
39:48Paul, I'm an obstinate person.
39:51But even I have learned that when ten people are saying something to you, and you still want to do something else, then even me, I've got to turn around and say, all right, I've got to go with what the other people are saying.
40:05people are saying and without a question of a doubt every single one of my advisors including
40:11these two that sit here find you aggressive they find you a person that's not going to
40:17mold with other people and some of them believe that you have an air about you that actually
40:23you're not coming here to learn you know it all you're coming here really to help out
40:29problems that i'm in to be a troubleshooter and all that type of stuff well let me tell you
40:35i'm going to problems that need troubleshooting certainly not by a 34 year old gentleman like you
40:42what you gotta say about that unanimous statement about you paul because you know the other day
40:49i i i i i backed you you know i said i see a lot of me in you i see a lot of me in you when i was your
40:57age but i'm getting this kind of message from everybody he's aggressive what you got to say
41:03about that i am 34 years old i haven't just done one thing in life i've done lots of things in life
41:10i've been in sales i've dealt with manufacturing and in manufacturing and production you learn an
41:15awful lot i think possibly the way it's come across is that i have nothing more to learn which is
41:20ridiculous because you learn every day of your life but the fact is that i was coming here to show you
41:24that i wasn't just one bag of tricks i had a lot to offer and so consequently the fact that you're
41:30looking for an apprentice you're looking for somebody a to learn but b i'm not a spotty 17
41:37year old you know you you surely must be looking for someone with some experience so that rather than
41:43you spending eight hours a day with that person molding them into exactly what you want you'll
41:47think to yourself this guy already has some standing but he needs to learn some more which
41:52is why i'm here have you got some standing well i have some experience in the things that i've
41:57if you had standing if you had standing in the old in the businesses that you've started of your
42:03own i go back to what the hell do you want to come and work for me for because i'll tell you
42:09when i started my business at the age of 18 i would have never ever gone back to work for anybody else
42:15in my life but we're different well if we're different then paul maybe you've just answered
42:26it for me because i can't afford to gamble on you paul as experienced as i am i've got to listen to
42:35what other people are saying to me and there's too many vibes coming through that says to me paul
42:40i'm gonna have to let you go you're fine
42:51do you know before i came here i didn't know a single person that had a bad word to say about me
42:56and i've taken nothing but criticism in the whole time that i've been here
43:00why is that that i don't know anyone with a bad word to say about me yet here i haven't got a single
43:05person to say a good word about me apart from the people that i lived in the house with why is that good
43:09question what go and think about it well i've got nothing better to do now have i
43:23you're responsible for those last two going i put my trust in you too because it's not been an easy
43:46task i tell you okay you've got a lot on your shoulders now you two a lot resting on your shoulders
43:57i'm going to give you a call as usual we'll meet soon and i'll let you know what the final task is going
44:06it's going to be
44:19Oh, my God.
44:36You ready?
44:37I'm just like...
44:38I know.
44:39Come, let's go.
44:40Come.
44:41Oh.
44:42Oh, my God.
44:44I just can't stop smiling.
44:56I gave it my best shot.
44:59In a sense, I think it's slightly disappointing that people didn't break through perhaps their
45:06perception of me and my aspirations.
45:10He just thought I wasn't right personality-wise for him or his team, and I respect that.
45:21Yes, sometimes I am tough in my approach, but I definitely don't see it as being aggressive.
45:28And a good salesman, a good entrepreneur and a good businessman has to be aggressive.
45:33Sir Alan never made a £700 million fortune by being soft.
45:38And when he said to me in one or two boardrooms that there are elements within me that he
45:43saw many years ago in himself, so consequently, I thought, well, that's going to stand me in
45:47good stead because that shows him that I am built of the same kind of stuff.
45:52But obviously, that didn't count for shit, really, because, you know, he fired me.
46:02One job.
46:03One job.
46:04Now just two candidates.
46:05Sir Alan's search for his apprentice is almost over.
46:12Next week on The Apprentice, look who's back.
46:15He says, I'm quite happy to fire you, Paul, if you are going to take this kind of...
46:18Oh, fuck off.
46:19You can't fucking fire me.
46:20I can't.
46:21Everyone takes to the boats for the grand finale.
46:27It's sink or swim, as Tim goes head to head with Siren.
46:32I knew we were fucking around.
46:36The skipper comes aboard.
46:37Give me a drink at least, won't I?
46:39Come on, hurry up.
46:41But the crew is all at sea.
46:44Oh, shit.
46:46And when the party's over, someone is going to get hired.
46:49And Alan Sugar is set to be Jonathan Ross's guest on Friday over on BBC One at 10.45.
47:03And Rabiar Parekh will be talking to Sire about The Apprentice tomorrow morning from 11 on the BBC Asian Network.
47:11.
Be the first to comment