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24 Hours in Police Custody S04E03
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00:00Do you want a comment to this, please?
00:04Luton was named by the American CIA.
00:07It's the epicenter of all terrorist activity.
00:09I'm going to place you under arrest, OK?
00:11Arrest me for what?
00:12So that...
00:13So a Muslim extremist allowed to come out of my fucking house, are they?
00:16With weapons!
00:17With weapons!
00:18Get off my stand!
00:19You fucking little bitch!
00:20You fucking wankers!
00:22These killers are happening.
00:24That's the thing.
00:25Talk about ISIS.
00:26You're fighting ISIS abroad.
00:27You're not even fighting abroad.
00:28I'm standing next to them in the bank.
00:33Tommy Robinson.
00:38When I started the English Offense League, I had to make a decision.
00:41If I run once, I'll run for the rest of my life.
00:43EDL are coming round there, mate.
00:45And I'm a member of the EDL.
00:47That will land you in a few fights.
00:58Police!
00:59Stay where you are!
01:00Any sudden moves?
01:01Yeah.
01:04Attempted murder.
01:05Attempted murder.
01:06Get out!
01:07Get in the van!
01:08Get out!
01:09Once a suspect is in custody...
01:11All right!
01:13The police have just 24 hours to find out what really happened.
01:18The time is really ticking.
01:20Who's innocent?
01:23Who's guilty?
01:25We're good to go.
01:27This is your opportunity to talk to me.
01:30There's two sides to every single story.
01:32Police!
01:33Police!
01:34Police!
01:35Police!
01:36Hello, Jake.
01:37Hello, you all right?
01:38Hello.
01:39Is that Julie?
01:40Yeah, that is my mum.
01:41Okay, cool.
01:42Is there anyone else in the house at the moment?
01:43No, why?
01:44They're going to place you under arrest, I think.
01:45I'm going to place you under arrest, I think.
01:46You arrest me for what?
01:47So that.
01:48So I'm using an extremist that I have to come round my fucking house all day with weapons?
01:51With weapons?
01:52Get up my son!
01:53You fucking little prick!
01:54You fucking wankers!
01:55is that julie yeah that is my mom okay cool is there anyone else in the house at the moment
01:59no why i'm gonna place you under arrest okay arrest me for what so that so a Muslim extremist
02:05allowed to come around my house are they with weapons with weapons get up my son you
02:10fucking little prick you fucking wankers no police are wankers when they called me a white honky go and
02:20arrest them go on no police go and arrest them what are you boxers for you bastards when i got called
02:28the white bastard when i got called the white fucking bastards get off you bully don't bully the
02:35fucking proper people
02:43nearly half of luton's population is non-white and a quarter a muslim
02:53got a list of questions now some of them are going to seem a little bit done to you
02:57but they are standard questions i've got to ask everyone that comes in if you have any allergies
03:02uh specific dietary needs including religious yeah hello
03:08an egypt police station yeah me too mate
03:14what are you going to do about it what are you going to do about it you bunch of bullies you
03:18all hit they all hit us they all hit us what a bunch of bullies
03:23a woman and her son have been arrested for public order offenses
03:40and i'm not a liar i'm not a liar i'm a 34 is a filthy liar filthy
03:46shit liar brother's a terrorist
03:51police suspect they have religiously and racially abused their neighbors
03:54they're going to go and make some arrests uh muslim extremists that come out of my house
04:00it's all been caught on the ips mobile phone
04:06uh telling her to fuck off
04:11calling her a terrorist
04:12no the neighbor isn't muslim but her brother is a well-known convert to islam
04:21how evil over a ginger cow whose brother's a terrorist
04:25a low and terrorist
04:28you cheater it's all about
04:32everyone that comes in here wants to kiss and cuddle me you deal with one person and it's all going wrong
04:36i'm going to speak to the sergeant what is that the one that's fucking wonderful like a dog
04:41do you want to try with me it's a different custody sergeant yeah you can do yeah you can do
04:45there we go up this side let me get my glasses on
04:49okay hello we've not met yet but we can meet now now do you know the reasons why you've been arrested
04:56i know what i know i know what they're saying it's about it's all a load of lies okay so you know
05:00what it is apparently you've been swearing in the street apparently so that's why you're here
05:06do you like a dog well i'm not going to treat you like a dog
05:11are you julie right right not right right i'm sorry yeah my dad's dead right right i'll respect
05:19him if no one else does born in luton worse luck shitter well i was from luke dirty scary
05:26shitter and the sooner i leave it the better can you read them all english okay
05:31why would i not be able to read and write english i'm english english white mom white dad
05:35english i have polish people coming here that are white and they can't speak yeah well i don't
05:39care about them right what i'm going to ask you is i've got about eight questions i've got to ask
05:43you which are going to sound really really strange but i've got to ask you yeah my brother i'm
05:47fucking ibrahim anderson stands next to andrew chowdhury what a brother to be proud of
05:54how do you terrorize us he's allowed to drive around how do you feel at the moment he's little
05:58nephew pissed off her angry and fuming that i've been i can't see all that angry i've been
06:07fuming like a dog because you actually would treat a dog like it you might have to bring the dog
06:11dog services being treated as a dog see how i recorded all that for you
06:16so she's feeling pissed off her and angry fuming because i've been treated as a dog did we call
06:26canine a team from community policing must decide if this is a serious religiously or racially
06:34motivated crime or simply a neighbor dispute that has got out of hand to be honest with you it is a
06:42uh neighbors hating each other uh with a racial escalation uh one of the parties really are they
06:49um black or no all parties are um white what's the racial element then it's not racial it's more
06:58religious miss anderson uh do you know about i think it's her brother um he's uh he's uh ibrahim
07:06anderson and he's been in the press quite a lot for his um sort of extremist uh extremist views no
07:13i've not seen it so i think they've connected them them together and they're uh carrying it out on the
07:19family two and two are made five that they must be as well confused i would say lute is a bit of a
07:25tinderbox you've got two big elements here you've got the edl the english defense league that grew in
07:31luton with a guy called tommy robinson and you've got the muslim extremists it is pretty hard for the
07:39police to deal with that the july the 7th bombers they actually caught the train down from luton
07:46you've heard in the news recently of families whole families going off to syria there are two extreme
07:53worlds in luton what an awful dirty bitch what a dirty scumbag when you've got a brother that's a
08:03fucking terrorist and a bloke that wants to put a hammer through your door you'll respect them
08:07when you've got a single parent that's brought their kids up perfectly fine you're on them
08:12sweep it under the carpet because he's ibrahim abraham beady old twat can we take this lady to f1 then
08:19please someone get her a blanket if possible you don't want a blanket they're clean they're come
08:25back from the cleaners all right f1 please for the lady so when do i get to speak to someone so
08:30they were well out of order all of them go and have a relax and then we'll talk later when we can
08:35get your fingerprints all of you hurt me every single one of you i hope you're proud hold it
08:40look at him he's laughing hold it he's not been involved and neither have i come on we'll take you to
08:50i'm not going to touch you i'm just going to just guide you
08:55you have the paintings of a fucking saint
08:57you've got to wait for the sun now he's going to come in any i've got a luton town boy come on
09:11mate you can come and talk to me you're all right you're all right guys yeah you're not all right
09:17because you're here but apart from that who's the arresting officer you yes six two eight seven
09:22what sort of things were being said guess your brother um no no she said whoa you're under
09:28caution don't say anything it's after good work i don't do any work you just keep your mouth shut
09:31yeah okay see you see what i mean the police officers are being cocky again i'm looking after
09:36you here why are you saying keep your mouth shut my mouth no keep your mouth shut because if you say
09:40something then i've got to write it all down and you could be incriminating yourself so i'm asking you
09:43not to say anything so they incriminate yourself that's what i'm trying to do look after you
09:47that's a joke good for truth lisa
09:53i have a um butchers over that that is the um video that was filmed
10:01once you feel buff it turns up annie's mates they're little mugs a lot of them they're wankers they're
10:07scum you're scum they're not welcome in this country
10:13so young man i'm authorizing attention to the police stage so you can be interviewed about
10:31this you understand that you're going to be interviewed you can put all your side of the
10:34story and tell them everything you want to tell them right can we take this gentleman to m5 for me
10:38please get another glass of water yeah the people of luton i think gel very very well
10:48we all work together we all live together
10:51it's the small pockets of individuals that cause the problem
10:54across beds hearts and bucks this is roberto peroni
11:07good let's go back to our local news stories the foreign office says it cannot verify reports that a
11:13luton man has been killed in syria fighting for isis 32 year old abu rahin aziz is said to have died in a
11:20u.s airstrike over the weekend he fled this country last summer and we had a statement claiming to be
11:27from isis over the weekend about the family of 12 from luton who have left for syria
11:36please work
11:38oh for the sake sat navi things not working officers esther morris and natasha mocks and booth
11:46have been sent to meet a young bangladeshi woman in hiding and fearing for her life
11:53she has apparently fled after being told she was going to be taken to syria with other family
11:59members who were willing to go and she's been threatened with a knife and they've shown her
12:05gruesome videos of killings in syria she speaks no english i don't know if it even says the girl's name
12:12i've been a police officer for about 12 years 13 years i deal a lot with victims of extreme behavior
12:22it's very very sad how some of these girls are treated
12:28they've threatened her with death if she goes to the police okay
12:33when we're on our way to meet a victim for the first time we need to keep them safe
12:38people might be watching they might be watching them they might be followed we might be followed
12:47we've found that families will not stop looking for them and they will go to any lengths to keep
12:54looking for them yeah terrified of being found by her husband the woman has been staying in a hotel
13:02with her brother oh there's somebody hello hi we're from the police yeah yeah is it all right come in
13:15hello we're going to get an interpreter on the phone um what language do you speak bengali
13:21did you sleep well no no five six of them are coming yeah hello um would you be all right if i
13:35passed you over to um a young lady we just want to let her know that we're going to ask her some
13:40questions when we get to the police station but it's okay thank you
13:44for a woman to come forward and tell us that she's suffered takes enormous courage okay thanks
14:01very much ready come on then let's go i'm very passionate about this work that i do
14:07we have a responsibility to deal with these things properly they don't have anybody else
14:17and they don't have anyone to turn to are you okay and i hope that i can help them
14:25we're going to go back to the station and then we'll try and find you somewhere else safe to go okay
14:37can you just take a seat on there for us please my love
14:47are you a policeman yeah unfortunately so are you a nice one i'm always a nice one
14:53got to be nice to people there's no point of being horrible
14:58julie wright and her son jake have been caught on camera verbally abusing their neighbor
15:04i don't know whether it's worth the body warnings of all of us there were racist remarks and the
15:08whole works but just download them now and have a british food yeah for them and see what you can
15:12pick out of it
15:19yeah before they interview julie and jake wright the police must examine the evidence in the case
15:26to see if there's a religious or racial motivation
15:29please hello jake hello you all right hello jake yeah coming is that all right thank you thank you
15:36hello is that julie i'm gonna place you under arrest okay
15:41arrest me for what so that so a muslim extremist allowed to come around my
15:45well done rob you've got a quick cuff in there so he slipped out of the cuffs
15:55got a hand free she was handcuffed
15:59these yellow lads are coming around here mate and i'm a member of the edo
16:02oh he's a member of the edo
16:05you're fucking wankers a lot of y'all
16:07you need to
16:08you're fucking fools
16:13i am covered in phlegm
16:18like a rabid dog
16:20i need to attend the whole time we're a disgrace i'm going to complain
16:22you're protecting the muslim extremists
16:26but saying that that's not racist in itself is it
16:30nah so by calling them terrorists that's the bit that's that's racial
16:34i mean it's a very subjective i think it's what the um individual people deem it to be
16:39she said in her statement that she perceives it to be racial
16:43at the time i'm taking the statement and it shows the racial and uh
16:46racial and religious abuse being shouted at me and my daughter and just after the phone went
16:50dead jake said words the effects of i'm going to stab you and your kids and i'm going to get tommy
16:56robson to sort you out and set fire to your house i believe that he means tommy robertson
17:01who's leader of the udl the english fence league tommy robertson knows my brother abraham
17:06and they've had previous clashes
17:31um
17:39the bangladeshi woman who has fled her husband has been taken to the station to give a witness
17:44statement okay and how long have you been married
17:47OK, so the lady's been physically and mentally tortured by her husband, and has had a
18:17effect on her.
18:20He's threatened her with a knife.
18:25So he's pulled her hair, he's punched her in the stomach.
18:32OK, her mother-in-law has basically held her while the husband has assaulted her.
18:37Yeah.
18:44They've been teaching her about IS.
18:47She says she didn't know what IS was.
18:49Right, so he makes her watch IS videos.
18:58And if she doesn't watch it, he starts shouting at her.
19:04Yeah, she seems like the people are being killed.
19:08She's being made to watch it.
19:11If she aired this conversation on what's been happening to her or told her parents in Bangladesh,
19:25he has stated that he would kill her.
19:35Because she felt so bad and she was so depressed in herself, she nearly felt like she wanted
19:39to kill herself.
19:40Are you OK?
19:41OK.
19:42OK.
19:43OK.
19:44OK.
19:45OK.
19:46It's Esther here at the police station.
19:57Do you know if there are any vacancies in the Asian refuge?
20:04OK, if you can ask her to give me a ring anyway.
20:07Yeah.
20:08OK, bye.
20:09Right, let's try.
20:10If we can't find a woman a refuge, we've actually had cases where families have found them and
20:23gone to collect them.
20:24We've had calls from hotels saying, you please need to get here quick.
20:30There's a girl being dragged out of her room.
20:33I've got a lady.
20:34We're after refuge for her.
20:36Ideally, locally in an Asian women's refuge because she doesn't speak any English really.
20:44Women like Fatima, you know, they need a safe place to go to.
20:49Hi, Shamayla, are you all right?
20:53Busy?
20:56We know historically that victims are murdered.
21:02We don't want that to happen again.
21:04Desperately trying to find somewhere for a Bengali lady.
21:10All right.
21:11OK.
21:12All right, speak to you soon then.
21:14Thanks.
21:15Bye-bye.
21:18Full up.
21:23Offices are dispatched to Luton Airport to arrest a man suspected of a brutal, unprovoked,
21:36racially aggravated assault.
21:38Tommy Robinson.
21:53Oh.
21:54Tommy Robinson.
21:55Oh.
21:56Tommy Robinson.
21:57Oh.
21:58Oh.
21:59Who's he arrested?
22:00Tommy Robinson
22:03Who was he arrested, please?
22:14He's been arrested at the Lord of the Nightport, your rival
22:16You just need me to the airplay as my wife and the three kids under seven
22:21Yes, what it says on here is that apparently you've hit somebody on the head
22:25whilst shouting racial abuse, A
22:2616th of July this year
22:30Yeah
22:31Yeah
22:31I was in prison
22:32Prison
22:33This happened in prison
22:34This happened in prison
22:35Blimey
22:36Bedford
22:37You put me on a wing with loads of Muslims who want to kill me
22:41and now you nick me for
22:42Consequences of that
22:45You pop him M9
22:49and could you get him and cut the blankets, please?
22:56When I started the English Fence League
23:10I had to make a decision
23:12If I run once, I'll run for the rest of my life
23:16And if you knew anything about the way gangs of Muslims work
23:20They work on fear
23:21So I had to make the decision not to run
23:24That will land you in a few fights
23:27Mr. Wright and Ms. Wright, what a lovely pair they are
23:45So that's mum that's in F1
23:49And son that's in M5
23:52Right, your solicitor's in
23:54On the 23rd of July
23:56It's alleged that they've gone out in the street
23:58Used some expletives under the words of terrorism and all that sort of thing
24:03It was all captured on a phone
24:05Ready to go in, yeah?
24:07Ready to go in, yeah?
24:09Both officers are ready to interview and rock and roll
24:12And Jake, if you sit in the one in the corner over there
24:15If you get a racially or religiously aggravated, erm, charged
24:20Then that does make it more serious
24:23Julie, if I can ask you to sit in the corner just there for me
24:27You automatically have to go to court to be dealt with
24:32Right, are you ready to rock and roll?
24:34Yeah
24:35Do you work, Jake?
24:40No, I've got learning difficulties and social communication difficulties
24:45Learning difficulties and what else, sorry?
24:48The social communication difficulties
24:51So then, Jake, you've been arrested for shouting fuck off you terrorists
24:55In front of other members of the public
24:57So, are you responsible for racially aggravated section four?
25:02No
25:03You ready Julie? Yep
25:04Yeah
25:09The first question I'm going to ask you is, are you responsible for this guy since?
25:15I did do it
25:20OK
25:21But there was a reason for why I did it
25:23a reason for why I did it. Okay. Tell me what's been going on. That person lives a few doors away.
25:29Her son, for a very long time, has been saying things to my son, being rude. My son has said
25:36on a number of occasions, go away, don't speak to me. When that argument happened, he called my
25:42son a paedophile. When he called him a paedophile, that was disgusting. It killed me inside.
25:49And my son, it made us fuming. They're giving a slightly different side to it, the fact that
25:59her son was riding up and down on his bike and that you've turned around and told him
26:04to F off. No. And that you pushed him? No. Did that happen? No. His mum come out shouting
26:09and whatever. She was saying that she was going to get her brother or whatever, Ibrahim Anderson
26:15and Muslim extremists to come round my house. She comes out, there's argument, and I know
26:22that she was taking footage. Okay. I'm just going to read through a transcript of the mobile
26:26phone footage. This is what we believe you have said. Go on, let them have this. Get
26:31us fucking done, you silly tramp. You got your son to say dirty words, you dirty mother.
26:37You're fucking dirty. I hate this place. I fucking want out. Come on, we always get the blame.
26:42Your son is a little fucking twat that says paedophile. You fucking dirty weirdo. Always
26:47chatting shit to your neighbour, you shit mouth stinking bitch.
26:51They're scum. They're scum. And you can shove the camera up your arse, you little slag.
26:55Go on and film your brother, what he does. Fucking scumbag, terrorist scumbag. Watch if your
27:01brother turns up. I swear to God and his mates. Won't fuck about. I'll smash his face in.
27:06Tommy Robson was right about you. Tommy Robson was right about you. Terrorist scumbag.
27:11Support a terrorist scumbag. Slag. Look at you. The people that I fucking know, the people
27:16that I fucking know, the people that I fucking know, they won't fuck about.
27:20She's perceived these words that you've said. She obviously is going to, isn't she?
27:24To be racial. No, it is not racist. No. I admit I've been to EDL marches, whatever, but
27:30I'm not racist. Do you have racist views? No. No? Okay. Okay. Who? But they do. Shake
27:41the hand with the black and the Muslim, but the white people. We have been called a white
27:46bastard by people around there. Black people. Okay. Black people. Okay.
27:53Ibrahim Anderson and other Muslim extremists, they keep driving past in their cars looking
27:58at my house or whatever. And I've told this to looting police over the phone, but the police
28:05don't seem to care or whatever. One day, there was a knock at the door. It was a fellow with
28:11a hammer. He hammered the door. We were all like hysterical and we rang 999 and they took
28:1925 minutes. Because of the person with the hammer and who our brother is, I have left
28:25our home for a number of nights and it's cost my son and myself about £700 to stay elsewhere.
28:33We've been on the run and we feel that nobody has listened to us, you know, police, Luton
28:38Borough Council or anything. I am frightened for my son. He has been picked on from a very
28:44young age. He has got learning difficulties. I don't know why people want to insult him.
28:50How would you feel just to go out and be insulted all the time?
28:55I don't really bother with no neighbours or whatever. We keep ourselves to ourselves or
29:00whatever. I've had so much crap over the years in Luton or whatever. I'm sick of it.
29:05Why have you had so much crap?
29:06I don't know. I don't know why. Like bullied, etc. And whenever I've been to the police, nothing's
29:15been done about it.
29:16OK.
29:16The way that we've been treated, we've obviously this incident, but whenever there's an incident
29:29with myself or whatever, and the amount of times I've been to the police, nothing's ever
29:34been done.
29:35So you feel like you've been let down by the Berkshire Police, yeah?
29:37I have.
29:38That's what you're saying, in a nutshell, yeah?
29:40That's not only on this incident, but other incidents that aren't even connected to this
29:44one. Is that right?
29:51Take a little drink and take a little bit of time. I've got nothing more to ask you
29:55now, OK? So I'm going to stop the interview.
30:02You all right?
30:03Yeah.
30:03Yeah?
30:04I know. I'm just going to get in trouble and everything else is just going to get
30:08punched under the carpet.
30:09Take a seat in there, chill out, and we'll come and get you shortly.
30:19I really need a drink of water.
30:32Oh, can I have one as well?
30:34Yes, do you want one, Seb?
30:35Yes, please.
30:36You really wouldn't think, from the footage that we'd seen to how he is now, that it is
30:42exactly the same person that we're talking about.
30:45There's a bit of gin in all of those.
30:47Excellent. I think we need it.
30:48My guy started crying.
30:51No.
30:52I quite believe that he probably is pretty frightened and pretty scared. You know, he's
30:57very forthcoming with his information.
31:00So, are you more on their side now, do you think?
31:03A little bit, because I think they are generally quite scared. They've been staying in hotels
31:10and stuff, and I mean, if they're not actually in the wrong as such, why would you be that
31:15frightened that you spend that much money? I mean, I don't think we've got a racial element,
31:22really.
31:22I think the likelihood is we are going to go bail. If only people could live harmoniously together,
31:30in peace.
31:30I mean, just keep that.
31:32I mean, just keep that.
31:39Well, as soon as it rings, I'll just pick that for you.
31:41It's all right.
31:52What's she doing?
31:54You want to put her on?
31:55She's in my mind.
32:00What's up, darling?
32:02You all right, yeah?
32:05Come on, baby.
32:05Daddy will be home later, yeah?
32:08I just had to help my friend out.
32:09My friend's asked us to help.
32:13Just this car, darling.
32:17I'm keen to get home now.
32:18I'm keen to get home now.
32:19I'm keen to get home now, baby.
32:23What's with you?
32:29I love my kids like everyone else loves their kids.
32:32Right hand for us.
32:34If you've got three kids like I've got,
32:36you're growing up in a town like this,
32:38with everything that's going on,
32:39but I think I've got a duty as a dad
32:41to try and change it.
32:43Luton was named by, what, American government?
32:45American CIA?
32:46It's the epicenter of all terrorist activity.
32:50It's not a joke, you know what I mean?
32:52There's killers out there.
32:53That's the thing.
32:55Talk about ISIS, you're fighting ISIS aboard.
32:57You're not fighting aboard.
32:58I'm standing next to them in the bank.
32:59She needs checking on.
33:04Who's going to go and check on her?
33:08He's all left here.
33:10Tommy has got it totally wrong.
33:11There are a lot of people within this country
33:15who are white and British,
33:18who feel that there are lots of people
33:20coming over to this country
33:22or live in this country
33:23and score more points for getting houses,
33:25get more jobs.
33:26They do this, they do that.
33:27And because of that feeling,
33:30Tommy Robinson has said the right things
33:32to manipulate their views to support the EDL.
33:35He thinks muddlings are a threat.
33:42That's utter rubbish
33:43because you cannot tire a whole community.
33:51Oh, hello there.
33:52My name's Esther Morris.
33:53I'm a police officer at Luton Police Station.
33:56We need some help with a lady.
33:59The pressure is on to find a place of safety for Fatima
34:02before nightfall.
34:03Her husband, he's threatened to take her to Syria,
34:09forcing her to watch all sorts of video
34:13and it's very extreme by all accounts.
34:16And so she's destitute.
34:19I'm wondering if you can help.
34:23No?
34:26OK, thank you.
34:33Would you let us check your phone
34:47to make sure there's no tracker on it
34:50so they don't know where you are?
34:51Can we check your phone?
34:53Yeah, my phone.
34:54It's new phone.
34:55It's new.
34:57Oh, is it an iPhone?
34:58Oh, OK.
34:58There's no tracker on there then.
35:00Your suitcase.
35:02Can we look at that?
35:03We need to make sure that everything's OK
35:05in your suitcase.
35:06Yeah.
35:07Did you pack it nicely?
35:09I think she left in a hurry.
35:12Keep it nice then.
35:14Keep it folded.
35:14For a woman to start a new life,
35:17I dread to think what it must be like.
35:19I've never had to go there.
35:21This is your wedding, Jory.
35:22Yeah, it's my mum's.
35:25I imagine it must be very, very frightening, scary.
35:29And they can't contact their friends.
35:32Quickly, I pick it.
35:34They spend a lifetime on the run,
35:36dodging their family.
35:38OK, then have a rest.
35:40You can sleep on the sofa if you want.
35:42See you in a minute.
35:49Hello, Esther speaking.
35:53Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:54Yeah, yeah.
35:56Yeah, that's brilliant.
35:59OK, lovely.
36:00Brilliant.
36:02Bye, thanks.
36:04Where?
36:05Hotel.
36:07With no refuge available,
36:09Fatima will be returned to the hotel
36:11whilst the search for a long-term solution continues.
36:15Did you get some sleep?
36:17Yeah.
36:17Yeah.
36:20Having done this for quite a long time,
36:22I do tend to get a bit attached,
36:24and I've been told off a few times
36:25that they're getting attached.
36:28But who else have they got?
36:30If you don't give them your mobile number
36:32so they can just, you know,
36:33text you over the weekend for a bit of advice,
36:37or just to know somebody else is there,
36:38they haven't got anyone else.
36:41You have been very brave.
36:44Yeah?
36:47You're courageous.
36:49Yeah?
36:50You have courage?
36:52No?
36:52I know what I mean.
36:55I know what I mean.
36:55I know.
36:55Sit down here for myself.
37:05I just feel like they're happy to see my job.
37:06Like, this is what I'm looking for.
37:08I was on a lot of Islam for my own.
37:11I was like, I don't think of it.
37:14I was like, oh my god, I had a chance.
37:17I had a chance to have my wife.
37:19I had a chance to have my parents.
37:22I was like, I'm a father.
37:26I didn't want to know Islam.
37:28I didn't want to know Muslims.
37:31I didn't want to know this.
37:38yes come on in welcome to the club excellent two detectives from a unit outside of bedfordshire
37:55have arrived to interview tommy robinson how's your been is he right yeah he's been fine yeah
38:01he won't cause us any problems while he's here he knows how to play the game doesn't he so yeah
38:05all right cheers boys thank you i don't know if they're gonna let me out of here take me back to
38:13jail so fuck it it's a nothing charge i've nicked me on but um they put a racially aggravated on it
38:20which fucking automatically means it's a not a nothing charge
38:25he's got him here six foot six foot i thought he's a little man in the arrest statement he says five
38:37foot two on tiptoes if you grab a seat over there okay everyone good to go
38:47yeah we've been here long enough haven't you i think we'll um we'll crack on
38:56now i feel this bit works we're in we're good to go everyone happy with that
39:16if the interviewing officers can prove tommy robinson's attack on a fellow inmate was racially
39:22motivated he will be sent back to jail you've been arrested for the offense of a racially
39:30aggravated common assault uh the circumstances around that allegation is that whilst you're a
39:36serving inmate at hmp peterborough uh you assaulted another male what we'll do then mccully's going to
39:43just load up the cctv on him we'll go through that and you walk from here from here right this is
39:50right next to screws off this other yeah so you go over and you punch him yeah
39:57what can you tell me about this um so i mean obviously you know my history i was founder of the english defense league
40:05i've lost count of the amount of times i've been violently beaten up um i don't know if you know what the prison system's like but the prison system is plagued with a huge problem with extremist islam and muslim gangs
40:12before the incident i'm leaning up against the wall and a bloke comes to stand next to me and he says mate you're gonna get done with boiling water yeah 500 pounds half ounce of spice
40:27and a mobile phone have been put up to have you done do you know how much that's worth half ounce of spice in jail no
40:46i've been thousands man really thousands just for us that aren't um spice is a legal high yeah okay spice is a legal high so he offered a mobile phone 500 pound and a half ounce of spice yeah and he goes to be honest mate it might not even be a muslim that does it for that price then i said alright do you know if anyone's gonna do it and he said the fella at his door is taking the hit
41:08so i've then looked across my mind's going 100 miles an hour i think i'm getting boiling water in my face here and they put boiling water and sugar it'll take your whole face off yeah at which point i walk across to where he is to see whether he's got anything and as he turns around i hit him and that's the truth that there got me moved into segregation and i'm still here today
41:34and i've got three kids at home and i have to do what i have to do to survive a sentence like that
41:39that's quite a detailed account um i'm still going to run through some more questions with you whilst all this was going on did you say anything to him
41:47nothing to him no he didn't say anything now he claims that you used the terms
41:53fucking packy and fucking muslim whilst you were assaulting him
41:56he claims the victim didn't know who you were
42:04mate the minute i walked into that prison everyone knew who i was
42:08on target number one if any one of them would have got me they'd lived their whole sentence for like kings
42:14in that system if you know what the prison system is like
42:17are you still involved in the edl no i've no involvement in it for
42:20probably eight two years okay but people still think you are and people still
42:27yeah i'm still tom robson from the edl to anyone like that
42:30yeah i've still the things i've said like the reason why some of these muslims want to kill me i've said
42:34i've committed blasphemy which is punishable by death if they're devout muslims they'll want to kill me
42:38yeah i've criticized their prophet i've criticized their religion i'm not allowed to do that
42:42apart from the warning that that chap came and gave you is there any
42:46other evidence which is going to support what you're saying that that person was going to
42:50attack you was there anything found on him at the time did you see anything
42:54i don't know did you see him dispose of anything throw anything into a cell no
42:58for me it was just an adrenaline then it was like
43:03i don't know it looks from this purely from the cctv
43:09just looks like you just walk over there and attack him for
43:12yeah but you don't know what's going on yeah did you want to sleep or leave that he
43:16posed a threat to you oh hardly he was going to do me in
43:18yeah it's not i honestly believed anyone with any ounce of common sense and any
43:24duty of care for people would not have put me in that situation
43:28um at no point have you used any of that language no at no point well i knew he wasn't a pakistani
43:40anyway he's talking shit
43:41i haven't got any further questions this interview is concluded
43:50oh
43:55the rights are given bail if you come up julie we'll sort um your release out first julie
44:19officers have decided that there is not enough evidence to press charges
44:23of a racial or religious motivation instead the incident will be treated as a neighborhood
44:29dispute
44:30so not allowed to contact or communicate directly or indirectly with the anderson
44:35and that includes all forms of electronic media so that we speak
44:38they've been told to know they will be told of your conditions here
44:40and i need to return your property are you going to sign here for your property
44:43julie
44:46are you going to sign there for me no keep them you wear them i don't want them
44:51no nor do i okay fucking man trousers okay i'm a woman i'm a woman
44:57come with me this way and then jake will come and meet you in a moment
45:01there you go there's your mum hello hello i don't know where we're going you just follow me
45:10i might get bombed i might get fucking hammer on this
45:14this is where else you've got your dates and times up there
45:18one condition there
45:20tommy robinson is also released on bail
45:23julie wright was fined 250 pounds for disorderly conduct
45:41her son jake accepted a caution for threatening behavior
45:46they have now moved away from luton
45:49their neighbor's brother ibrahim anderson has since been convicted of promoting isis and
45:54terrorism in the uk and was sentenced to three years
45:58me and my mum we are moving out of luton for the foreseeable future for our safety
46:03we're going somewhere quieter and a much safer prettier place
46:11and obviously just looking forward to making a new future elsewhere
46:15patima is now living in a refuge she is studying english and volunteering for a local charity
46:22patima is now living in a refuge she is studying english and volunteering for a local charity
46:25her husband on her husband is studying in the past life
46:29and has the same to her living in the past life
46:31she is taking care of mother's mother
46:34and she is trying to收入 Tampa
46:37she is trying to trust her
46:39and she is dying on her own
46:40she is suffering from being her own
46:42she is suffering from being a human
46:43and she is suffering from being a human
46:46the only sister is suffering from having her own
46:48her own
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