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Chuck Grassley Asks Trump Nominee If The US Economy Needs To 'Decouple Completely' From China
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At a Senate Finance Committee hearing on Thursday, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) asked Trump trade nominee Bryan Switzer about trade with China.
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Senator Grassley. My first questions and maybe it'll eat up all my time is
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directed towards Mr. Tyre. The one big beautiful bill was an historic
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achievement. We averted the largest tax increase in history. It made a pro-growth
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business provisions permanent. It unlocked business investment that will
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create jobs. The bill also provides additional middle-class tax relief. So
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now getting to Treasury writing regulations and making decisions as
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Treasury works to implement the bill the agency must work with members to ensure
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the provisions are implemented according to the statute and faithful to
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congressional intent. So the first question is a very general one. Can we
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count on you to keep Congress well informed during the implementation
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process and consult with relative members of Congress where
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questions arise as to what what was congressional intent?
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Yes sir Senator Grassley I think absolutely I want to recognize that you
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have long been a leader on tax on this committee. I remember now fondly the many
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late nights and hard work that we had in 2017 working through that bill. I know
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you've done the same here and Treasury will implement the law and I look forward
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to working with you and your team as we go through the process. There are several
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provisions that I'm particularly interested in and seeing faithfully
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implemented. This includes the structure of the phase-out for wind and solar
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credits and modification of the clean fuels production credit and remember
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you're talking to the father of the wind energy tax credit. I worked with my
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colleagues to provide wind and solar an appropriate glide path for the orderly
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phase-out of the tax credits. Ultimately Congress enshrined in statute a 12-month
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transition period based on when projects quote unquote begin construction. What it
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means for a project to quote unquote begin construction has been very well
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established by Treasury guidance for more than a decade. Moreover Congress
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specifically references current Treasury guidelines to set that terms meaning into
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law. It seems to me this is a case where both the law and congressional intent are
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very very very clear. So Mr. Tyre will you commit to advising the department that
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both the law and the congressional intent are clear and at the beginning of
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destruction construction those official words means what it has meant for more
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than a decade. Thanks Senator Grassley. Again you on behalf of your constituents have
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been a leader for decades now. Is your microphone on? Yes sir. Well then get
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closer to it. Will do. Again Senator you've been a leader for many decades on
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these tax policies. It's tough to imagine a better representative of constituent
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interest than you and this is an issue that falls squarely in the purview of the
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Office of Tax Policy at Treasury. We had an opportunity to meet with your staff
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this week. I understand there was interaction directly with you as well and I think if
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confirmed you can expect that that type of engagement to continue an open door
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through the Office of Tax through the Office of Legislative Affairs as the
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Office of Tax Policy works through these questions. Okay now to biofuels. The
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reconciliation bill includes an extension and modification of clean fuel
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production tax credit 45Z. Implementing this credit properly and quickly is
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important for the biofuels industry and its participants especially farmers. The
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Biden administration failed to meaningfully address 45Z regulation which
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has caused major market disruption including plant closures. When can we
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expect to see guidance formally on implementing the clean fuel credits so that
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the biofuels industry can confidently move forward with operations? Thank you
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Senator. This again is an issue that falls squarely within the Office of Tax Policy. I
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don't have the timeline on on where when they might provide guidance there but this
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input is helpful. It's noted and we'll be sure it is conveyed as a priority to two of
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my colleagues. Can you expand my point of view to everybody involved in it? Absolutely, yes sir. Mr. Schweitzer, this will have to be quick.
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Do you think the well you will be handling the areas of international trade and I'm
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interested in China based on your personal history you know how challenging
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this will be. Do you think that the whole United States economy needs to decouple
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completely from China or only certain sections of our sectors of our economy? Thank
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you for that important question, Senator. As Secretary Besson has said, the President
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has said, Ambassador Greer has said, we don't seek to decouple from China. What we seek is
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trade reciprocity and we seek trade de-risking. There are certain segments of
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the US economy that require de-risking. Semiconductors is a really important one
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obviously. Autonomous vehicles, the Internet of Things for instance, we have cyber
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physical systems that can turn on and turn off elements of our critical digital
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infrastructure, aerospace, defense, other areas of national infrastructure. These
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are the things that we need to de-risk. But when it comes to the other areas we
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want to sell into China. If as long as there's trade reciprocity we should be able
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to buy from China items that they produce that others can't produce or whether it be
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certain types of textiles and others where there's a there's a robust market. So we
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really seek is purely fairness, reciprocity and of course we do need some
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strategic de-risking as you know Secretary Besson said recently, as the
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President said before. The gentleman's expired.
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