Zolak and Bertrand laugh at Mike Vrabel poking fun at Zo before shifting gears into narratives around the team, including how bad its 2024 draft class really is.
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00:00so when i talked about this on free game i love it so much and i i thought like what's he
00:07digging it so about is what is this about is it about is it about the wedding gifts
00:13no god no is it about the drake may wedding gift story that wasn't that wasn't like a report
00:18again like i said that okay i'm gonna tell you many people took that as a report even though
00:23you would compare that to the digs thing okay okay okay i'm just telling you listen many people
00:32took what you said about the wedding gifts as a report and even the tmc etc people magazine
00:38were to new york post were taking that as a report fox news okay it was everywhere it was everywhere
00:46they all took that as you're reporting the thing right whatever i i'm like oh is he busting your
00:52chops about that you said no it's not you don't think it's about that no i think it's about the
00:56digs thing you think it's about stefan digs i hate to forget that right and what you had said i looked
01:01up the quote after you said this the other night uh you said it was on the table that digs could be
01:08let go yes not that he was going to be like you didn't say he's getting cut you said it's on the
01:13they will consider letting him go if he doesn't you know yeah he wasn't he wasn't he didn't take
01:18any physical yet he's been working out he didn't get any money up to that point
01:21and it would been hey if they want to get out of this they get out of it
01:25and it's the off off field stuff like this is what you said i looked up the quote we have the audio
01:30i think but yeah okay you said i came to this show yesterday with the opinion not opinion but the
01:37knowledge oh that is a zone quote opinion wait no not opinion uh but that means you know something
01:44you said i came to the show with the knowledge that it is on the table that it's being thought of
01:50and it's not just the boat it's not just the boat there are some other things that i've heard
01:55that put some things into question are you all in here and that was are you committed are you
02:01showing up are you doing everything you're supposed to be doing in the off season now you throw in the
02:05boat video that was the digs thing you think it was that yeah because why would why would he care
02:12about the the stupid uh wedding gift thing because he's just trying to bust your balls oh
02:17well maybe here maybe that maybe he is i should have shoot i should ask him what whatever what would
02:21i do which one which one because i'm not in the business of i think you should ask him next time
02:28you see him hey was that about the may thing or about the digs thing oh he was great with me
02:32do you want to hear that audio i found but do you know what i think it is i this is why i still think
02:36it's the it's the may thing really i still think it's the may thing for this reason because i think
02:42he's just looking to bust your balls and like be you know himself yeah right he's that's who he is
02:47but i think that he i think that if you said back to him off the record like not on in a interview
02:53yeah wasn't the digs thing on the table he'd be like oh yeah that was on the table
02:58i don't think you were wrong about the digs thing you think you were wrong about the digs thing no
03:04no if i no i think they had major concerns about his off season and then the video thing happened
03:10yeah i'm not speaking for mike like i think it could be everybody that was sure do you blame them
03:16do you blame them no absolutely not no they were they were questioning his you know commitment was
03:23he all in i think since then we've learned he's um he showed up right away after that happened he's
03:28been back and he's been uh he's been great since all that happened back in the spring so i think
03:33that that's old news now but not at the time would the digs thing play into the rat stuff that he's
03:39worried about good see i think the rat thing and is the player not the team on this is all about
03:51polk going for surgery right you want to hear that yeah give us there was a report today that jalen
03:56pope will have to have season and in shoulder surgery can you add anything to that no i don't
04:03know other than i'd like to find out where some of these come from you know some of these rats around
04:08here so we'll figure that out he now took it back this morning by the way which has me thinking he's
04:15a little bit out there mike rabel took it back and said he was that he was just looking to entertain
04:19for and that's it well i thought he was busting balls with zoe that to me was not busting balls that
04:24had no hint of entertainment value that was that i didn't take that one as you know i'm just pissed
04:30off tonight i'm just gonna yeah he did he he walked all this he he had to walk it back moment that
04:36wasn't that wasn't a sense of humor coming no no well he that's me today he was like i can't believe
04:40you guys take everything i i'm paraphrasing basically saying can't believe you take everything
04:44i say and run with it you know that's just after a tough loss i just want to get out of there
04:47it's just going to be entertaining like okay i think the rat on that by the way did you read
04:54this report when it first dropped from jordan schultz yeah you guys read this tweet yes he wrote
04:59jalen polk came into camp in terrific shape nope and wanted to showcase that work to the new coaching
05:08staff okay i would pause here let's pause the tweet did he no i i don't know about what condition he
05:15was talking about what he was doing the the quality of work he did was not impressive he said a really
05:21tough injury for a young player the patriots still have high hopes for but this was the best course
05:28of action does this sound like it's coming from the team or the player or the agent so come on so i know
05:34some people were like well this is coming from the team you know they got to retain his value no they
05:37don't it's over he's two years in and he's going to not be an nfl player and he's getting thrown on ir
05:43simply to protect the draft the look and appearance of that draft oh my god but it's
05:49drinking wallace there's no trade value there to protect no the team doesn't give a damn this is
05:54from the player's agent that's who that's from speaking glowingly about jalen polk and how the
06:02patriots have high hopes for him you think the patriots are making it known that we have high hopes for
06:06jalen polk right now no no no and i think i don't think he this is from a one of his own rats
06:13but the digs thing would have to be one of his rats because digs the digs thing could only come from
06:20someone with the team true that that's the team is considering this that's from the team
06:26so yep you don't think there's people in the front office that could potentially have leaked that
06:31absolutely oh this the polk thing yeah no no because it makes them look bad no because i i
06:37think it's so felt pick that they have to know unless they have zero awareness they have to know
06:42how laughable that is for a fan to read that and be like no he he didn't come in and have a great
06:49camp or anything he and he has no value elsewhere there's not one report from any beat writer that
06:55he looked great in week one of camp no there was not one practice we were down there where you
06:58walked away saying wow poke really popped he did nothing he did not do anything of value
07:03he's he's cooked he's not he's done he's not baker had a good camp
07:09yeah right he had a good camp um he's had opportunities here yeah it's a couple weeks and
07:16but we talked about him way more during those practices i'm just comparing the practice oh baker
07:21bigger bigger like you watch camp and you didn't say anything about poke but you did say things about
07:26baker correct so if this tweet were about baker you know being cut or being on the trading block
07:31you'd be like well no he did have a good camp he did show some things in practice you can't even
07:37say that about poke i wasn't talking about his game performances he's had plenty of opportunities and has
07:41not capitalized and that leads to a greater discussion about the roster which we can have
07:46how many receivers are they keeping i got him at six or seven well that's the it's six or seven is the
07:53question you can't say i got him at six or seven no is it six or is it seven those are i'd roll with
07:59seven oh i would because what are the odds one of these guys are going to get deep come on
08:04all right we can get into that all right you want to do your list you want to do your final 53 yeah
08:16no god no all right we can talk about that but also with poke going to ir with the surgery
08:23how's that 2024 draft looking how's that looking i've been railing against that draft for a year i
08:30was way ahead of the curve you know what watch it way ahead of the question a lot of minutes they
08:34brought i told you guys this draft is going to be a problem well your three for poke is going to
08:37change things you know that yeah it's going to look a lot different all right well we let's talk
08:42about it i mean the next best pick after drake may may have been marcellus dial
08:46i'm not kidding i know poor guy's got a torn acl we'll get into it that 2024 patriots draft not
08:54looking so hot what what you don't need the three years to evaluate this one well i just think that
09:01this has been a rough summer for elliot wolf a rough month for elliot wolf the safety that he
09:06signed to a four-year 58 million dollar contract 30 million dollars guaranteed is either going to get
09:11cutter traded it appears it appears right now that he's on the outside looking in new coaching staff
09:19doesn't see him as a fit he has not been the same player coming off the injury and they're trying to
09:25move him they're they're openly trying to move him it is it's not even a secret they're trying to
09:30trade the guy they can't find a partner one year into that deal and then you have the 2024 draft class
09:37drake may was selected third overall there was no decision required on the part of the people
09:42making the picks because they were taking a quarterback and they had the third pick i guess
09:46you could give them credit for not trading out of the pick but gee that would have been stupid where
09:50would this team be right now the only reason we have any hope for them is because we think they have
09:56a quarterback we think they do we're gonna find out they do we'll get to more on that too
10:01as drake may concerns grow going into year two but they really didn't have much of a decision and
10:08then after that they took jalen polk they took caden wallace they took laden robinson who's no longer
10:14here they took uh joe milton who's in dallas they took jaheem bell who's gone seventh rounder i'm not
10:21holding that against anyone but you look at that that list and there is a chance that drake may a really
10:29good chance by the way that drake may is the only player from last year's draft class that is on this
10:35roster to start the year marcelo style did tear his acl and i actually think he had a really good camp
10:41too you six round pick 180th overall he was he was showing a little something getting a lot of reps
10:48with the injuries and absences carlton davis christian gonzalez everything that's gone on in
10:55that secondary so anyway drake may might be the only guy so between the duggar thing and drake may
11:02being the only guy out of last year's draft class yeah shouldn't that get somebody's attention here
11:07shouldn't somebody be paying attention to this saying we want to have the best coach we want to have the
11:15best players shouldn't you also want to have an elite front office yeah i mean look at the philadelphia
11:23eagles and what they've done and you know i don't look at their head coach like he has much power
11:28i really don't i think he's the kind of coach that you can't give him that power like he's
11:32he's sort of that hothead i don't know if he can really control the room i don't you know you
11:36remember the opening press conference you talk about the philadelphia eagles and you just think of
11:40howie roseman and how he's built that team and tommy donahoe and how they've been able to do it
11:45year after year and they just reload they still pay guys and they make trades and they admit when we make a
11:50mistake we cut and we move you know that's why you went and got a.j brown if this was the gm of
11:58the red sox or the celtics or the bruins just to be fair yeah i think we would be critical of them
12:03so yeah i understand it like that comes with the territory i think he knows that too he knows he
12:10knows it was a bad bad year i mean he talked about that at the combine this press conference
12:15you should say much better draft but like to your point and i know what you're making is
12:21who really makes the picks you know is it variable because it seems like you know they're trying to
12:28get him meaning variable the the type of guys they want in the building just they are just the way
12:35it's positioned well they are but i don't think that that's why the last year's draft class sucked
12:39you could have still drafted talented people you're right it's not like they drafted talented
12:44guys that are not fits and they're gonna no no no no that's not what it is that has nothing to do
12:48with variable 2024 has nothing to do with variable nothing no and he he's he's quick to tell you too
12:54like i'm not worried about what we did but we're moving forward but go back to 2021 or 2022 and look
13:00at those drafts because cole strange i think might be out the door in a couple of minutes too
13:04i agree and you look at a first round pick from 2022 and the second round pick was taequann
13:09thornton that year and you say what did they get out of that draft oh uh marcus jones that's what
13:16they got marcus jones is the guy who might be the survivor from the 2022 this is why this is why
13:22they have at least christian barmore is a good pick from the year before right
13:26so the survivors from 21 and 22 are barmore and stevenson
13:32and and i could just tell you barmore is obviously a far more important piece than stevenson will be that's
13:38what happens with running backs those are those are churn and burn players you knew that you can
13:42have said those are see the thing the thing looks like remander stevenson has lost his job by the way
13:47he's not going to be the featured back on this team nor should he be based on the impact of
13:53travion henderson this summer got a kid's a stud stud yep um earl campbell but this is why you have
14:00no doubt dale sayers yeah this is why you have no depth first martin marshall faulk yeah i'm just naming
14:08hall of fame running backs all the time now so i'm doing barry sanders did you say barry sanders
14:13i did no no no not this time we've said it but not right right it's a shiftier sanders uh yeah
14:17fowler just threw up a graphic for me 2022 uh draft class cole strains and marcus jones the two guys
14:22that are still here and i don't think strange is here for long he had a rough night on thursday
14:26and those drafts killed them that they're they're killing them right now because they don't have a
14:33core that they built through those drafts three and four years ago so you've been able to it's
14:38crushing them you've been able to pick and choose through free agency in the draft this is why you're
14:41going to be dependent on so many rookies is you're going to be able to field two pretty good teams on
14:46offensive defense 11 11 i have a question the special teams are better but where where your depth
14:52pieces your core that you talk about it's the backup guard it's the backup tackle it's the seventh or
14:57sixth receiver you're gonna be good enough in case someone goes down to put these guys in who's the
15:01backup linebacker what about like i don't know and maffy and all those guys they drafted what i
15:06thought mid-round picks that you thought might be backups well they used to crush those picks though
15:10those used to be like joe toony shaq mason anymore so the end of belichick's time here was a killer
15:15in the draft brutal and i think his work as a gm really screwed him up as a coach too sure because
15:22he just didn't have enough talent it really hurt him in a big way but i was thinking back this weekend
15:29to bill's comments in the globe which i don't think you've talked about yet so i've not and i
15:36thought about what he said about more people getting involved and and i thought man he is deflecting
15:43blame for those bad drafts isn't he he's trying to deflect and claim that it's not his fault at full
15:48control but if he were trying to deflect blame who's he trying to deflect that blame onto
15:54who are the people that got involved who are the people that had to huddle up with him when he
16:00drafted mac jones who was in the huddle the mac jones huddle oh they're still here oh they're still
16:06here yeah oh interesting i wonder which people he's trying to put blame on for those drafts and is it
16:14grow and elliot wolf there's no way they have they had decision making over him i don't believe it
16:21either but who was influencing the owner and influencing the coach and who had all the ties
16:26between the two and who's the guy who blew the 2024 draft i'd say who's the guy who signed godshaw to
16:33the extension bill that's bill last year's
16:38no when they first when they when they first brought godshaw and gave him the big money no
16:44the extension extension okay i'm sorry i'm sorry 2024 no this is what bill when they started he called
16:50him the best offensive tackle in the league so 13 months ago devon godshaw got an extension with
16:56the new england patriots got an extension two-year deal okay who did that oh that's elliot do you know
17:02what they gave him 16 and a half million 13 months ago guaranteed if you're the owner of the team
17:09don't you call down at some point and say hey between the 30 million guaranteed to the safety you're
17:15about to dump and the 16 and a half million guaranteed that you gave to the guy who doesn't
17:20play here anymore and the draft that you absolutely failed at a year ago because you get no credit for
17:28drake may conky could have made the pick as we've stated so at what point does this catch anyone's
17:35attention is my question and oh you were here for that cole strange pick weren't you you were there
17:40with bill and you huddled up with bill on on that year we drafted the quarterback mac jones
17:47like at some point doesn't this get your attention at some point that you may not have an elite front
17:54office that you you did your very best this offseason to correct your head coaching flaw
18:00you did you made a big bold move admitted your mistake paid a hefty price to admit that mistake
18:08and move on and do what was right for the team when does that apply to the guys upstairs
18:12that's all i'm not letting that one go it's like raffi devers and those red socks i won't let go of
18:20this elliot wolf stuff man that front office has not done a good job and it's going to hurt the team
18:25this year they'll be worse this year than they could have been had they had better draft picks
18:29you can buy all the milton williamses of the world it's not going to fix your failures of not being able
18:36to identify good players it won't and they've not done such a great job at that but i'm happy
18:42rable's here though because i think he can do it
18:44you