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00:30Closer friendship as I did between Chris and Eddie.
00:33Eddie Guerrero has passed away.
00:36My next thought was, oh my God, Chris.
00:39I love you, Eddie.
00:40He didn't handle it well. Let me just say it like that.
00:43Nancy started getting really worried. She's like, I'm really worried for Chris.
00:47I just had this really bad feeling.
00:49We have more for you now on a developing story in Fayette County,
00:52the deaths of a pro wrestler and his family.
00:55In the immediate wake of Chris Benoit's death,
00:57the world is desperately searching for answers.
01:01What comes to light goes beyond anything anyone could imagine.
01:05People just couldn't believe it.
01:07Couldn't fathom that something like that could happen.
01:09It can't be real.
01:11Like, where's my nephew?
01:12That can't have happened because the person that I knew
01:15would not do this horrific thing.
01:18But I think this is going to be gigantic.
01:20This will affect WWE.
01:21Well, the question is, was he on steroids at this time?
01:25Did the blows to the head Benoit received in the wrestling ring
01:28fundamentally change his brain?
01:32It really, really was the darkest time in my life.
01:35Fayette County, Georgia, is a laid-back community.
01:58It's more of a family atmosphere.
02:00Not a whole lot of crime.
02:03It's pretty peaceful.
02:06My name is Larry Alden.
02:07I was with Fayette County Sheriff's Office.
02:10I was a lieutenant in charge of the shift
02:12that was working the day of the Benoit incident.
02:14I had been a detective for about 15 or 20 years.
02:19I'd probably see Chris Benoit once or twice a week at the gym,
02:22which was right in the middle of Feltville.
02:25He didn't talk a lot,
02:26and he was pretty focused on getting his workout in.
02:30I'd never heard anything about him.
02:32I didn't even know where he lived at
02:33until the call came out on the radio that day.
02:36My name is Dennis Figg,
02:37and I run the security for World Wrestling,
02:39and one of our wrestlers that lives down there is missing.
02:42And what's his name?
02:43Chris Benoit.
02:45Okay, and he's a wrestler?
02:48Yes, he's a very religious gentleman,
02:50and yesterday he was supposed to show up at a pay-per-view
02:52and never got on the plane, never showed up.
02:54Yeah, it's out of character for him.
02:57All right, we'll go ahead and send somebody out there to check on him
03:00if you want to call us back in, like, 45 minutes or so.
03:03If he's there, we'll tell him to give you a call.
03:07I was in my patrol car just riding around the county,
03:11and it was pretty close to the area when the call went out.
03:15I wasn't thinking of anything other than a welfare check
03:17where maybe he was sick, maybe drunk,
03:20didn't really know what.
03:21I pulled up on scene about the time the neighbor was walking over,
03:26and I walked up to them,
03:27and I asked if she had seen Mr. Benoit or anybody.
03:31And she said,
03:32it's been three or four days since I've seen anybody over there.
03:35There was two large canines in the yard.
03:39If I remember correctly, they were German shepherds.
03:41We asked her if there was any place she could put the dogs at
03:43so we could go up there and do the welfare check.
03:46And she said, oh, yeah, me and the dogs get along great.
03:49I feed them whenever they're out of town.
03:53And she jumped the fence.
03:55Dogs right there with her.
03:56She walked them in there, never had to take a hold to them.
03:59It was taking a little longer than I thought it should take,
04:03but then she came running out the door
04:04screaming that Daniel's dead, Daniel's dead.
04:07I went from just being a regular welfare check.
04:12Okay, we've got something more serious here.
04:21We'd crossed the fence at that time, myself and Deputy Mundy,
04:24and we made entry through the side door, which she had left open.
04:28We drew our weapons, not knowing what was going to come upon.
04:33It was daylight, and they had plenty of windows in the house,
04:36so you had a lot of light coming in.
04:38There was an odor in the house.
04:42And I looked over at Deputy Mundy and said,
04:44something is dead in here.
04:47There was a set of stairs going up to a bedroom.
04:50So we went up those steps, and sure enough,
04:52that's where the juvenile child was at, laying in bed.
04:56I noticed the child was laying on the bed, face down.
04:59Deputy Mundy said, do we need to start CPR?
05:02And I said, no.
05:03He'd passed away.
05:04But we started clearing all the different rooms and doors.
05:09We found another room, and that's where we found Miss Benoit at.
05:14She was laying on the floor, and she was wrapped up in a blanket
05:16or maybe a rug or something like that.
05:21Went downstairs to the basement area,
05:24which was a couple of large open rooms.
05:27And the last door we opened was the gym door.
05:29And that's where Mr. Benoit was at.
05:34Because of the mirrors and at the angle Deputy Mundy was at to my right,
05:38she saw the reflection at the far end of the room,
05:42which might have been five to seven, ten feet away from where he actually was.
05:45And she started to say, show me your hands, Fayette County Sheriff's Department.
05:51She could not see.
05:53He had cabled from one of his weight machines around his neck and had some weights on him.
05:57That's when I told her, I said, he's sitting right here.
05:59He's passed away.
06:01Radio had called us, asked if everything was okay.
06:03And I told him on the radio, that looked like it might be a homicide and suicide.
06:10It was within two or three minutes of us walking back outside
06:13that somebody had already strung crime scene tape across the front of the property.
06:19I was at the gym, and I remember I was driving home.
06:22My son was with me.
06:23And I got a call from one of the writers from WWE
06:26who called me and said, are you sitting down?
06:29I'm like, what's going on here, dude?
06:31And that's when he said, Chris is dead.
06:32And I said, what? Chris who?
06:35He says, Chris Benoit.
06:36And I pulled over to the side of the road, and I just started bawling.
06:40And I remember my son, he said, Daddy, you cry funny.
06:43I was just crying. It was bawling.
06:45At this time, no one knew what happened.
06:48So WWE is just thinking that Chris Benoit has passed away,
06:52along with Nancy and Daniel.
06:54You're not trying to put together that, okay, did someone break in?
06:58Did carbon monoxide happen? What's going on?
07:00You just know that these two of your friends are gone,
07:04and no one has answers.
07:06Vince McMahon, the chairman of the board,
07:10couldn't go on the air and not do anything.
07:12So we went on the air and did what we thought was right.
07:14Tonight, this arena here in Corpus Christi, Texas,
07:16was to have been filled to capacity
07:19with enthusiastic WWE fans.
07:24We tried to honor the guy, we tried to honor his family,
07:27tried to honor his fans,
07:28but we didn't have a full story.
07:32Shame on us for that, I guess.
07:34So tonight will be a three-hour tribute
07:36to one of the greatest
07:39WWE superstars of all time.
07:44We just know that Chris Benoit is no longer with us
07:47and neither is his family.
07:49Of course I'm going to pay tribute to my friend.
07:51And I would trust you with me,
07:54with my life, with my kids' lives.
07:57Because I know you, Chris.
07:59I know your heart.
08:00Yeah, they called me and asked me if I wanted to be on it,
08:03and I was like, absolutely not.
08:04I remember just sitting there,
08:05like, just watching, like, dead,
08:08with a bottle of vodka, just drinking,
08:09like, you know, Cassetti's was bad.
08:11This was worse.
08:13Chris Benoit was done,
08:14and he was one of the greatest wrestlers I ever saw,
08:16but he was one of the best friends
08:17I ever had in this business.
08:18We did not know all the information.
08:21That's our fault.
08:22We were trying to serve the audience.
08:24It was a major story.
08:26It was hitting all the news sources,
08:27and we had a TV show.
08:29We wanted to update people
08:30on what the hell was going on.
08:32But we didn't have all the information.
08:34But we didn't know we didn't have all the information.
08:36We were told from the authorities,
08:38here's what happened.
08:38Oh, guess what?
08:40We were wrong.
08:40This is not what happened.
08:43Chris was the type of guy
08:44he'd want to go to war with.
08:46It was hard, because at that time,
08:48some guys were, you know,
08:50in their speeches, you know,
08:52praising Chris.
08:54Because Chris Benoit was my hero.
08:57I love you, Chris.
08:58It's interesting to me,
08:59because when I watched the Raw tribute,
09:01and everybody was talking about Benoit,
09:02and how great of a performer he was,
09:04and how amazing he was,
09:06I thought Regal's words on that night
09:09were very revealing.
09:12Now all I'm willing to say
09:14is that Chris Benoit
09:17was undoubtedly
09:19the hardest working man
09:22in professional wrestling.
09:23And when you talk to him afterwards,
09:25you find out he lived in the same city as Chris,
09:27and knew a lot about whatever fights
09:30Nancy and him had,
09:31or whatever Chris was going through at the time.
09:33And I'm not sure if a lot of people
09:34would have noticed it,
09:35but knowing what I knew about him,
09:37I started thinking,
09:38wow, this is not good.
09:38My sister had told me to spoil myself,
09:44and go to the mall,
09:46and get some makeup,
09:47and have some wine with lunch,
09:49and go watch a movie.
09:51And I came out of the theater,
09:53and I turned my phone on,
09:54and I had like 22 missed calls
09:55from my parents.
09:58And my parents made sure
09:59they wouldn't tell me anything.
10:01They wanted me to be parked in my driveway,
10:03and inside my house,
10:03before they told me.
10:05And that's how I found out.
10:06And then when it finally sunk in,
10:10I just absolutely lost control of myself.
10:13It was very difficult.
10:15Very difficult.
10:16I had to go to the hospital
10:17and be sedated.
10:22I was in Edmonton,
10:23and then this number kept calling.
10:26My mom's cell phone,
10:27unknown number,
10:28unknown number,
10:29unknown number.
10:31And then she finally answered it,
10:33and it was the police,
10:35RCMP.
10:36So, we left.
10:39We rolled down to the station.
10:44She found out first.
10:47I see her crying there.
10:51She couldn't spit it out.
10:52So, the cop told me
11:08that they all passed away
11:10over the weekend.
11:12I punched them in the chest,
11:15and then me and the cop went for a walk.
11:19We talked.
11:22You know,
11:23your dad loved you.
11:28They all loved you.
11:30And, uh,
11:31that was a joke.
11:34I really did.
11:35It wasn't until after the show
11:40and after the fact
11:41that all the details started coming.
11:43We have more for you now
11:44on a developing story
11:45in Fayette County.
11:46The deaths of a pro wrestler
11:48and his family.
11:49Fayetteville authorities
11:49say the bodies of Chris Benoit
11:51and his family
11:52were found this afternoon
11:53in their home.
11:54Right now,
11:54it's being investigated
11:55as a murder-suicide.
11:56However,
11:57until we get the crime lab reports,
12:01it's undetermined
12:02exactly what happened.
12:03That's when all of this,
12:04you know,
12:05all of these details
12:06start coming out about
12:07it's not just him that's dead,
12:09it's Nancy,
12:10and then Daniel's dead as well.
12:12And then that's when
12:12it just started getting
12:13out of control.
12:14The father killed his wife and son
12:16and then committed suicide.
12:18That's what's happened here.
12:19You didn't want to believe it.
12:21Can't believe it.
12:21Can't be true.
12:22But it was.
12:32The evidence indicates that
12:34it was a particularly
12:35brutal and vicious murder.
12:38It was something that
12:40showed some sign of real rage.
12:42I'm Matthew Arndazza V
12:43and I'm the author of
12:44Ring of Hell,
12:45the story of Chris Benoit
12:46and the fall of the
12:47pro wrestling industry.
12:48The weekend of the murders
12:50on Friday,
12:51Chris Benoit had a barbecue
12:52out by the pool with Daniel
12:54and then that Friday evening
12:55it appears that
12:56there was some sort of
12:56altercation between
12:57Chris and Nancy
12:58that Chris restrained Nancy
13:00with duct tape
13:02and then utilized
13:03a telephone cord
13:04to strangle her
13:05and then placed a Bible
13:07next to her body.
13:09There were a number
13:10of beer cans
13:11and wine bottles around
13:12that indicate Chris
13:13may have been drinking.
13:13next morning on Saturday
13:16Chris, we assume,
13:18gave his son Daniel
13:19Xanax
13:19and then murdered him
13:21in his room
13:22being suffocated
13:23by his father.
13:25A Bible was then placed
13:26next to Daniel as well.
13:28After that,
13:28Chris made a phone call
13:29and let friends know
13:31that Daniel and Nancy
13:32were both suffering
13:33from a bad stomach virus
13:34and that he had to take them
13:36to the hospital.
13:36That night,
13:39Chris went to bed
13:40with the bodies
13:41of his wife and child
13:42in the house.
13:44On Sunday,
13:45Benoit makes a couple
13:46searches on the internet
13:47that are chilling
13:48in retrospect.
13:50One,
13:51for a story in the Bible
13:52about the prophet Elijah
13:53and the resurrection
13:54of a dead boy
13:55in the Old Testament.
13:56And then a search
13:57about the quickest
13:58and most painless way
13:59of breaking one's own neck.
14:02Chris then went down
14:03to his home gym
14:04with a half-drunken
14:05bottle of wine.
14:06He went to his
14:07lat pull-down machine,
14:08he took the bar off,
14:09he wrapped a towel
14:10around his neck
14:11and he took the metal cord
14:13from the lat pull-down machine
14:14and put it around his neck.
14:17He adjusted the weights
14:18to 240 pounds
14:20and then he released it.
14:23So it's a very bizarre scenario,
14:25it's a very bizarre weekend
14:26and it doesn't leave
14:28a lot of answers.
14:29He was just a guy,
14:32you know,
14:32like my friend.
14:34Nobody expects a friend
14:35to kill their family,
14:37like what?
14:39When I found out
14:40what had really happened,
14:42the shock is just,
14:44you can't even believe it.
14:45He had put his knee
14:47in her back
14:48and essentially broke her back.
14:50I couldn't fathom
14:52how cruel
14:53and how much pain
14:54she must have gone through
14:55and how horrific
14:56that must have been for her.
14:58It was just unfathomable.
14:59If Chris did give Daniel
15:02that, you know,
15:03medication or prescription pills
15:05and suffocate him,
15:06you know,
15:07like,
15:08shame on him.
15:09Daniel was innocent
15:10in all this.
15:11We were hearing
15:12other things come out
15:13about the circumstances
15:14of him putting the Bibles
15:16by their sides
15:17and having a knife
15:20that he had planted
15:21underneath Daniel's bed
15:23or something like that.
15:25Still couldn't wrap
15:26my head around it.
15:28It just sounded so...
15:30like some bad horror movie.
15:33And now I'm a part
15:36of humanizing murder.
15:40Strange.
15:42I mean,
15:42to think that Nancy
15:43was dead for two days
15:45before Chris took his life,
15:47how was that even logical
15:49for this man
15:51who loved her so much?
15:53Later, it turned out
15:54that there was a Bible
15:55in the house
15:57similar to the ones
15:58left by Nancy
15:59and Daniel's body
16:00that Chris had left
16:01something akin
16:02to a suicide note.
16:04Something along the lines
16:05of,
16:06I'm preparing
16:06to leave this earth.
16:08So,
16:09Chris did leave
16:09a suicide note.
16:11He did know
16:11what he was doing.
16:12He was at least enough
16:13in his right mind
16:13to understand
16:14exactly what was happening
16:15and was still considering
16:16whether he would go
16:17make a flight
16:17to go wrestle that night
16:18on international television.
16:20Good evening,
16:21ladies and gentlemen.
16:22We came up on air
16:23with Vince talking
16:23and kind of letting
16:25everybody know
16:26what happened.
16:27Last night on Monday Night Raw,
16:28the WWE presented
16:29a special tribute show
16:31recognizing the career
16:32of Chris Benoit.
16:34However,
16:35now some 26 hours later,
16:37the facts of this
16:38horrific tragedy
16:39are now apparent.
16:41Therefore,
16:42other than my comments,
16:43there will be no mention
16:44of Mr. Benoit's name tonight.
16:46It was understood
16:47that we were not
16:48to speak of Chris,
16:49speak of Benoit,
16:51speak of anyone
16:52of that incident.
16:54And by that next week,
16:56Chris's name
16:56was erased
16:57from everything
16:57that was involved
16:59with WWE.
17:00I mean,
17:01when we did interviews,
17:02we were not to mention
17:03Chris Benoit.
17:05So that's something
17:06that was really hard
17:07for us to do,
17:07but because we all
17:09wanted our jobs,
17:09it was understood.
17:10I know WWE
17:13has kind of like
17:13erased his history
17:15of being in the business
17:16and I can understand
17:17and totally agree
17:18with what they did.
17:19We're not going to praise
17:20a guy who murdered
17:21his wife or his son.
17:22I don't give him
17:23any accolades for that.
17:25I went to the funeral
17:26of Nancy and Daniel.
17:29I can't even believe
17:30how sad that was.
17:32I was the WWE
17:33representative there,
17:34just me,
17:35with the shits.
17:36I go to a funeral
17:36and people crying
17:37and a kid being buried
17:38and a woman being married
17:39for no reason.
17:41No reason to die.
17:43The WWE sent J.R.
17:45and I lost my cool
17:46with him
17:47and told him to his face
17:49that he wasn't welcome
17:50at the wake afterward.
17:52It was all a work,
17:53just fake,
17:55garbage,
17:56nonsense.
17:57I can see a work
17:58coming a mile away
17:59and that's what I saw
18:01and I knew
18:01that that was the truth.
18:03I felt like I was
18:04the most unwanted person
18:06in the building
18:06because I was a WWE guy
18:08and I probably loved him
18:10especially anybody there.
18:11Everybody was just a mess.
18:14It's shitty
18:15and it's sad
18:16and it's unfair
18:18because there's two people
18:19that could still be
18:20with us today
18:21and if Chris wanted
18:22to take his life
18:23then so be it.
18:24but to take all of them
18:26I didn't go to Chris's funeral.
18:29I was angry.
18:31At that point
18:31I was pretty angry at Chris
18:33for what he did.
18:35His funeral
18:35was very private.
18:37We didn't tell anyone about it.
18:38That's when it all hit me
18:39right there
18:40all at once.
18:41I was crying my eyes out.
18:42Who in the wrestling business
18:45provided care for you
18:46and your family
18:46in the aftermath of this?
18:49Is that a serious question?
18:51Not a single person.
18:53No one.
18:54And did anyone
18:54from the WWE
18:55ever reach out to you
18:56and your family?
18:57Chris Jericho
18:57and Chavo Guerrero.
18:59That's it.
19:00Nobody else.
19:02You know?
19:03Screw them.
19:04They weren't there for me.
19:07You know?
19:08They backed off
19:09like I didn't even exist.
19:11It was so hard
19:21after the funeral
19:22because the media
19:23was just non-stop
19:2524-7.
19:28Tonight we are talking
19:28about the strange
19:29and very sad case
19:31of Chris Benoit.
19:32I didn't even watch
19:33news anymore.
19:33I didn't even watch
19:34TV for months.
19:35I couldn't even watch
19:36wrestling anymore.
19:38We're also told
19:38by the police here
19:39that there were
19:40instruments
19:41of death found,
19:43not instruments
19:43of murder.
19:44There's going to be
19:45an autopsy report,
19:46but there's an awful
19:47lot of confusion
19:48about how this happened.
19:50It really, really
19:51was the darkest
19:52time of my life.
19:53Benoit had an intense
19:55onstage persona.
19:56He was nicknamed
19:57the rabid Wolverine,
19:58the Canadian Crippler.
19:59The couple actually met
20:00when her former husband
20:02drew up a script
20:03that had put the two
20:03of them in a relationship.
20:05It made everything
20:06extremely difficult.
20:07It made everything
20:08under a magnifying glass
20:10because CNN and Fox
20:12and all the news channels
20:14were at the gates.
20:16You know,
20:16a double murder-suicide
20:17with a seven-year-old kid
20:18as news.
20:19But I think that there's
20:20a point where you really
20:21just need to let
20:22the family grieve.
20:23All I really wanted to do
20:25was to be with
20:25my niece and nephew.
20:27The mainstream media's
20:28reaction was typical
20:30because, A,
20:31they love a tragedy,
20:32and it gives them
20:34another reason
20:34to take a shot at wrestling.
20:35It was a field day for them.
20:37Professional wrestlers
20:38are 20 times more likely
20:40to die before age 45
20:42than professional
20:43football players.
20:45I think a lot of
20:45mainstream media
20:46looks down at wrestling
20:47as it is,
20:47and then suddenly
20:47it was public enemy
20:49number one.
20:50Chris Benoit's diary
20:51is revealing new information
20:52about his state of mind.
20:54The wrestler wrote
20:55a series of letters
20:56to his best friend.
20:57At one point,
20:58Benoit wrote,
20:58I'll be with you soon.
21:00Mike Benoit believes
21:01it's the diary
21:02of his son going mad.
21:05We just didn't understand
21:06this was going on
21:07at that time
21:08in Chris's life.
21:11I got a call
21:11from Chris's dad,
21:13Mike Benoit,
21:14because he knew
21:14my relationship with Chris.
21:16The first thing
21:17he asked me was why,
21:18which from a father's
21:19standpoint,
21:20I can understand
21:21how upset he was.
21:22Unfortunately,
21:23I felt bad.
21:24I didn't have any answers
21:24for him.
21:26People need to understand
21:27that that was not him,
21:29not the person we knew,
21:30the person I loved
21:32with all my heart,
21:33my hero.
21:33The term that's been
21:34being thrown around
21:35everywhere is roid rage.
21:36Some say steroid abuse
21:37is rampant at the organization
21:39and everyone just turns
21:40a blind eye to this.
21:42The media's initial response
21:43to the Benoit tragedy
21:43was that this was
21:44a roid rage incident.
21:45Where do steroids stand
21:47in the bizarre Benoit deaths?
21:49Pro wrestling,
21:50when Chris Benoit
21:50entered it in the 1980s,
21:52was extremely discriminatory
21:53against people
21:54who were not
21:54six foot plus tall,
21:56who were not 250 pounds
21:58or more
21:58and very, very muscular.
21:59My understanding
22:00is that Chris Benoit
22:00was using steroids
22:01from when he was
22:02in high school.
22:04In the months
22:04before the murders,
22:05Chris received a number
22:07of text messages
22:08from Nancy
22:08in which she made it
22:09very clear she was
22:10sick and tired
22:11of his steroid abuse.
22:13Nancy definitely
22:13directly accused him
22:14of abusing steroids
22:15to the point
22:16that it led him
22:16to be an angry
22:18and violent
22:18and unhappy husband.
22:20And she said
22:21that the WWE's
22:23drug enforcement policy
22:24and testing regime
22:25was obviously nonsense.
22:26Something called
22:26the Wellness Program
22:27that alleged
22:28that it was
22:29testing every WWE wrestler
22:31to make sure
22:31they weren't using
22:32recreational drugs,
22:34performance enhancing drugs
22:35or steroids.
22:36I think at that time,
22:37you know,
22:37instituting a wellness
22:38program like that,
22:40I think everybody
22:40was happy
22:41that finally
22:42some of these guys
22:43that needed the help
22:43were going to get help.
22:44I thought it was
22:44a great idea,
22:45anything to help talent,
22:47save guys
22:48from themselves.
22:49After Eddie died,
22:53the WWE's drug testing
22:54was super strict.
22:56It went through the roof.
22:57Like, you couldn't even
22:58take a freaking aspirin,
23:00like a high-powered aspirin,
23:02unless you had, like,
23:03a prescription.
23:04And I'm not kidding.
23:05The drug testing
23:06is so strict
23:07that this rampant
23:08steroid,
23:08dude, you can't.
23:10You can't go snort cocaine
23:11or smoke weed
23:12or anything.
23:14In practice,
23:17it was seen
23:17that this initial version
23:18of the wellness program
23:19had large loopholes in it
23:21and large blind spots
23:23that allowed wrestlers
23:24to continue to use drugs
23:25at a really large scale
23:27without tripping the tests.
23:30Speculation is running wild.
23:31Did steroids play a role
23:33or is there another explanation?
23:35We have an exclusive interview
23:36with WWE Chairman Vince McMahon.
23:39WWE did everything it could
23:40combat any coverage
23:41in the news media
23:42that indicated that
23:42drug abuse
23:43or steroid abuse
23:44was the cause of the homicides.
23:46And obviously,
23:46this is not an act of rage.
23:48It's an act of deliberation
23:49when you do something like this
23:50over three days.
23:51It's not an act of rage,
23:52be it steroid rage
23:53or roid rage,
23:54whatever it's called,
23:55or any other rage.
23:56WWE strongly suggests
23:58that it is entirely wrong
23:59for speculators
24:01to suggest that steroids
24:02had anything to do
24:03with these senseless acts.
24:04It's all speculation
24:05until the toxicology reports
24:07come back.
24:08In his autopsy,
24:09Chris Benoit
24:09was shown to have
24:10enormous amounts
24:11of testosterone in his body.
24:13Testosterone is still
24:14a steroid that's banned
24:15in all major sports.
24:17It directly leads
24:19to increased muscle growth.
24:20Some folks have said
24:21he had ten times
24:21the normal amount
24:22of testosterone
24:22in his body
24:23as a normal human.
24:24And did Benoit
24:25pass a wellness program
24:26check leading up
24:26to the murders?
24:27Yes, preposterously,
24:29Chris Benoit
24:29passed a wellness checks
24:30leading up to the murder,
24:32despite the irrefutable fact
24:33that he was taking
24:33enormous amounts of steroids.
24:34Well, after it initially happened,
24:46I actually had nightmares.
24:47It was very traumatic
24:48because as a female,
24:50I tend to really
24:51get angry with him.
24:53The one person
24:54she thought was there
24:55to protect her
24:55is the one that really
24:56took her life.
24:58There was a lot of stuff
24:59going on behind closed doors
25:01that no one knew about.
25:02I think there was
25:02a lot of volatile fights.
25:04One thing I'd always
25:05heard about Nancy
25:06and the fact that
25:06she didn't take shit.
25:08So I just know
25:09there was a lot
25:09of volatility there.
25:13That's the word
25:13I think was used,
25:14volatile.
25:15There was a few times
25:16that Nancy would call me
25:17and she would say
25:18that her and Chris
25:19were fighting.
25:19There was an instance
25:20when they were in Tampa
25:21and Chris was upset
25:23when they were driving
25:24on the way to our house
25:25and Chris went and
25:26busted the windshield
25:27of their car.
25:29Did you ever witness
25:30any abuse
25:31that was going on
25:32in that relationship?
25:34My sister called me
25:35to the house
25:35and she called Mike Durham
25:37known as Johnny Grunge
25:39who was also
25:40a professional wrestler
25:40that lived in the area.
25:43And Mike said,
25:44I'll go wrangle Chris.
25:46I'll go wrangle Chris.
25:47Don't do anything rash.
25:48But it was already
25:50kind of done.
25:52He hurt her.
25:54I don't know
25:55whether it was intentional
25:56or accidental
25:56but he hurt her.
25:59Out of respect
25:59for the kids
26:00that he still has here
26:01I won't go further
26:02into that.
26:05She got a restraining order
26:06against him
26:07and I went down there
26:08and stayed at the house.
26:10Mike had him
26:10at a hotel there
26:11in the area.
26:13Chris contacted me directly
26:14because Nancy wasn't
26:16answering any of his calls
26:17and asked me
26:19to talk to my sister
26:21on his behalf.
26:23And please, please, please
26:24let him come to the house
26:26and talk to her personally.
26:27She called him
26:28and he came over
26:29the next day
26:30and they were back together
26:31a couple of days later.
26:34So I look back
26:35on that moment
26:35and say,
26:36you probably shouldn't
26:37have gotten involved
26:38and why did I take his call
26:40because maybe that would
26:41have been the end of it.
26:43Almost every day
26:44I think about that.
26:45When police found steroids
26:49on the scene
26:50many assume
26:51that explained it.
26:52The killer had flipped out
26:53because of drug use.
26:55Or might there be
26:56another explanation?
26:58The initial media coverage
26:59all focused on steroid use
27:02and I said,
27:02there's no way.
27:03I'm Chris Nowinski.
27:04I'm a former WWE superstar
27:06and now I am a neuroscientist
27:09and run the Concussion
27:10Legacy Foundation.
27:12My wrestling career
27:13came to an end
27:14because I had a series
27:16of concussions
27:16that I didn't quite appreciate
27:18were concussions.
27:23I never stopped performing
27:25until the damage
27:26was sort of too much.
27:28So I decided
27:29I would start digging
27:30into what else was known
27:31and it became a book.
27:34Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy
27:35or CTE
27:36is a progressive
27:38degenerative brain disease
27:39that appears to be started
27:41by hits to the head.
27:42Oh!
27:43Oh my God!
27:45Oh man!
27:47Anything done!
27:48My God!
27:49What I knew about CTE
27:51at that time
27:52was that there were
27:53four cases of NFL players.
27:55Two had died by suicide
27:56and one had started
27:58hearing voices
27:59and led the police
28:01on a chase
28:02through upstate New York
28:03and died in a fiery crash
28:05going on the wrong
28:06side of the highway.
28:07When I heard about
28:08what happened
28:08with Chris Benoit
28:09I immediately remembered
28:11a conversation
28:12I'd had with him
28:13maybe six months prior.
28:16I remembered that
28:16he had sat next to me
28:18in the locker room
28:18and he said
28:19I heard you write
28:20in a book
28:20about concussions.
28:22I was like yeah
28:22and he goes
28:22I'm interested
28:23in what you're learning.
28:25He's like
28:25how many concussions
28:26have you had
28:26before you had to retire?
28:29And I said
28:29well I can remember
28:30at least six
28:30but I probably had more.
28:32and I said
28:33how many have you had?
28:34And he said
28:35I've had more
28:36than I can count.
28:38And then he said
28:38I'm going to give you
28:39my phone number
28:40and I want you
28:40to call me next week.
28:41The next week
28:42I called him.
28:44It sounded like
28:44he was in the middle
28:45of an argument.
28:45He was clearly agitated.
28:47It sounded like
28:47someone else was there.
28:48He just said
28:49hey I can't talk right now
28:50can I call you back?
28:51And I said sure.
28:53I wonder if the reason
28:54he was asking me
28:55to call him
28:56was that he knew
28:57that something was going on
28:59but he didn't quite
29:00appreciate what that was.
29:02And so I decided
29:03that I really needed
29:04to know if Chris had CTE.
29:07There was so much
29:08media attention
29:08I really couldn't imagine
29:09his family answering
29:11the phone
29:11but I said
29:12I'll give it a try
29:13and Chris's father
29:15answered on the second ring.
29:17He was in
29:18a state of mind
29:19you could imagine
29:20when you just lost
29:21your son
29:21and learned what happened.
29:23I told him my theory
29:25and he immediately said
29:26yeah I want
29:27I want to see this done.
29:28We have the brain
29:30in early July
29:31and I think
29:33within about a month
29:33we knew that
29:34it was positive
29:35for CTE
29:36and it was a pretty
29:37severe case of CTE
29:38and so we held
29:40a press conference
29:40in New York.
29:41When you look at
29:42Christopher Benoit's brain
29:43it is in fact shocking.
29:45Our findings showed
29:46extensive areas
29:48of tau protein deposition
29:50throughout his brain.
29:52Tau protein is a marker
29:53for brain damage.
29:55With Chris
29:57he actually had a
29:58what would be defined
29:59as a severe case
30:00of CTE at 40 years old
30:01which is early to have it
30:02so it wouldn't just be
30:04areas of his cortex
30:05or areas of his brain stem
30:06but there was damage
30:08in areas that you would think
30:09could influence
30:11emotional behaviors
30:12and I believe
30:14the degeneration
30:15of his brain changed
30:16who he was
30:17and what he was capable of.
30:18If you get hit in the head
30:19thousands of times
30:20your brain essentially
30:22can start to rot.
30:23You get this damage
30:24in your brain
30:25that even after you
30:26stop getting hit in the head
30:27will continue to spread
30:28and changes who you are
30:30and how you behave
30:31and what you become.
30:33I think about
30:45you know
30:46when me and Chris
30:46would be talking
30:47and he would just be crying
30:48so much
30:49that you know
30:50I wonder why he couldn't
30:51control his crying.
30:53Does that go with
30:54the concussions?
30:54Does that go with his brain?
30:56You know
30:56Eddie and Chris
30:57took a lot of chair shots
30:59and these chair shots
31:03from like years ago
31:04were hard
31:06and they were mean.
31:09In the 90s
31:10we used to take chair shots
31:12to the head.
31:13That was a badge of honor
31:14and what I mean by that
31:16is someone
31:16would swing a steel chair
31:18at your head
31:18and I literally remember
31:23you would
31:24grit your teeth
31:25and you'd
31:25you'd
31:26you know
31:27tense yourself
31:28and tense your neck
31:29and just take it.
31:33They hit you
31:33in the head with it
31:34and you just take it.
31:36That was what you did.
31:40That was expected.
31:41If you had a concussion
31:42in wrestling
31:43you just shake it off.
31:45Shake it off
31:46go in there
31:47and do it
31:47and all of us did it.
31:50I wrestled
31:51for 20 plus years.
31:54It makes me wonder
31:55how much CT do I have?
31:58How much CT
31:59do these other wrestlers have?
32:00Because we all got it
32:01to some extent.
32:03You know
32:03is this going to be
32:05my end?
32:07One of the most
32:08incredible things to me
32:09is you have Harley Race
32:10invents the flying headbutt
32:11and tells everyone after
32:12don't do this move
32:14it fucks your spine up horribly
32:15it ruins your ability
32:16to have an old age.
32:18Dynamite Kid hears that
32:19from Harley Race
32:19does it his whole career
32:20ends up in a wheelchair.
32:21Dynamite Kid tells
32:22Chris Benoit
32:23Chris Benoit does it
32:24his whole career
32:24and then loses his mind.
32:28I mean
32:28there is a clear history
32:30of people repeating
32:31the most self-destructive
32:33story imaginable
32:34over and over again.
32:37I think the Benoit tragedy
32:39led to some
32:40institutional changes.
32:41the awareness
32:42of what CTE is
32:44was never before
32:45even a conversation point.
32:47Now it is.
32:48And finally
32:49unprotected chair shots
32:51and subsequent concussions
32:52are now being addressed
32:54because the one thing
32:55we've got to do
32:56is protect the athlete.
32:58I think when you look
32:59at what Chris Benoit did
33:00as a symptom
33:01of some sort of
33:02medical problem
33:03whether it's drug use
33:05or brain damage
33:06I think that misses the point.
33:08Ultimately
33:08this thing
33:10that is the core reason
33:11this happened
33:11was Chris Benoit
33:12made a decision
33:13when he was a very young person
33:14to do absolutely
33:15whatever it took
33:16to succeed
33:17at his childhood dream
33:18of becoming a pro wrestling star.
33:21No matter what happened
33:22that weekend
33:22Chris Benoit's story
33:24was going to have
33:24a tragic end.
33:27I think his fate
33:28was sealed
33:28the day that Eddie died.
33:30Whether he knew it or not
33:31I don't think anybody
33:32could save him
33:33after that.
33:34Not his kids
33:35not his family
33:35not his other friends.
33:37I just think
33:38that was the one guy
33:39that he said
33:40I can't do it
33:41if Eddie's not with me.
33:44Whatever it was
33:45that he was going through
33:46you know
33:47I think he just continued
33:49to shrink his whole world
33:50until all that was left
33:52was just whatever
33:52was in his head
33:54that caused him to snap
33:55and he snapped.
33:58It's not one thing.
34:00I think that it's a factor
34:01of alcohol and drugs
34:04and yes
34:05possibly CTE
34:06and stress
34:07and grief
34:08and all of those
34:10things rolled together
34:11put him on a path
34:12that weekend
34:12that he couldn't get off.
34:14Chris was always
34:15going to be
34:16my friend
34:17and my brother.
34:19I just know
34:19that there was something
34:20going on with him
34:21that wasn't him
34:22and it's something
34:23that you know
34:23I'm still very much
34:24torn with
34:24because you love Chris
34:26you just hate
34:28what he did.
34:28the act of what he did
34:30is unthinkable
34:32unforgivable
34:34but it's still hard
34:36for me to separate
34:37a friendship
34:38that I had with him
34:39matches that I had
34:40with him
34:40moments, times
34:41car rides
34:42I think I can always
34:43look at Chris
34:43as one of the best
34:44performers
34:45our business
34:46has ever seen
34:46just kind of
34:48leave it at that.
34:53I get a question
34:53all the time
34:54does Chris Benoit
34:54deserve to be
34:55in the Hall of Fame
34:55and I say
34:56absolutely not
34:57no
34:58the issue is
34:59is that if Chris
35:00were here
35:00we could talk to him
35:01he would say
35:01putting me in the
35:02Hall of Fame
35:03is going to be
35:03one of the great
35:04distractions
35:04of the entire event
35:05because all it's
35:06going to do
35:07is bring up
35:07Nancy and Daniel
35:08and Chris
35:09in their last
35:1024 hours
35:10so therefore I say
35:12Chris Benoit
35:13does not belong
35:14in the WWE
35:14Hall of Fame
35:15now or ever.
35:18You have two guys
35:19that were the same
35:20basically their whole life
35:22and had the same
35:23reputation
35:23of being just
35:24immaculate professionals
35:25immaculate human beings
35:26the nicest guys
35:28and they both
35:29die very young
35:30and one's legacy
35:32is acclaimed
35:33and one's is buried
35:35to that you
35:36almost can't say
35:37his name.
35:38If you would have
35:40told Chris
35:40you know
35:41when you die
35:42your name
35:43and your body
35:44of work
35:44is going to be
35:45erased
35:46from existence
35:47forever
35:48it would have
35:49broke his heart
35:50because I think
35:51if nothing else
35:51I remember
35:52he told me
35:52it's like
35:52listen
35:53the critics
35:53are the critics
35:54but if you have
35:54the respect
35:55of your peers
35:56then nothing
35:57else matters
35:58so to find out
36:00that he would have
36:01lost the respect
36:02not only of his peers
36:02but his friends
36:03his family
36:04I don't think
36:05he ever wanted that
36:06it almost took down
36:08the whole business
36:09what Chris did
36:10almost
36:10and that's another thing
36:11what Chris did
36:12almost destroyed
36:13the only thing
36:15that he ever loved
36:16from a professional
36:17standpoint
36:18the only thing
36:19he ever loved
36:20pro wrestling
36:21Chris Benoit
36:22almost destroyed it
36:23that would have
36:24torn him apart
36:25as well
36:25so it leads us
36:27around to like
36:27why did he do it
36:29I don't think
36:30anyone's ever
36:31going to be able
36:32to answer
36:33that question
36:34you know
36:43people will look
36:43at me different
36:44now
36:44because of
36:46what he did
36:47people talking
36:48shit behind
36:49my back
36:49looking at me
36:51different
36:51getting bullied
36:52screw it
36:53I'm defending
36:55my family
36:57what I believe
36:58in
36:58you know
36:59he loved them
36:59that definitely
37:02was not him
37:02he's still my hero
37:05I think about him
37:07all the time
37:08I want them
37:11to recognize
37:11Nancy though
37:12she definitely
37:15deserves
37:15the recognition
37:16that she doesn't
37:17get
37:18that's the unfortunate
37:19and the sad part
37:20about the story
37:21is that
37:22she needs to be
37:23remembered
37:23for a strong
37:25woman
37:25pioneering
37:26in this business
37:27and her talent
37:29and focus on that
37:30instead of
37:31what happened
37:32to her
37:33she's a hall of famer
37:35all across the board
37:36in my opinion
37:36she was a pioneer
37:38and one of the best
37:40at a role
37:41that doesn't exist anymore
37:42as a pro wrestling
37:43manager
37:44she created the role
37:46she perfected the role
37:47and then when she
37:48stopped doing it
37:48the role basically
37:49disappeared
37:50I would like nothing
37:51better than to see
37:52Nancy
37:52you know
37:54Nancy Benoit
37:54once again
37:56you can't even
37:57say that name
37:57right
37:57woman
37:59I would like nothing
38:01better than to see
38:01woman be put
38:02into the WWE
38:03hall of fame
38:03she was a great mom
38:07she was a beautiful
38:08friend
38:09and Nancy
38:10will always
38:12be the superstar
38:13that she was meant
38:13to be
38:14in my
38:14in my mind
38:15can I blow a kiss
38:17what do you remember
38:23the most about Nancy
38:24I remember
38:27everything about her
38:29I remember how her
38:30hair smells
38:31she took me in
38:37with both hands
38:39real hard
38:39like on her
38:40both sides
38:41of the blanket
38:41to tuck me in
38:43almost like she was
38:44putting a lock
38:45on me
38:45to keep me safe
38:47and to this day
38:48when I get sad
38:49or upset
38:49or stressed out
38:50I will tuck
38:52myself in
38:53on the sides
38:54so that I feel
38:55more secure
38:56what do you remember
38:58the most about Daniel
38:58everything
39:01I closed my eyes
39:03and I could see him
39:03doing everything
39:04he was our whole lives
39:06all of us
39:07he was very
39:08very very
39:09very loved
39:10by our family
39:11by his siblings
39:13he and his brother
39:14were just
39:15big as thieves
39:16did you go on
39:18to have any relationship
39:19with the Benoit family
39:20afterward
39:20I tried
39:23unsuccessfully
39:26I was told
39:31I won't say by who
39:33that the children
39:34didn't want anything
39:34to do with us
39:35and apparently
39:37the children were told
39:38that we didn't want
39:39anything to do with them
39:40because of what
39:40their dad did
39:41which was absolutely
39:43not the truth
39:44my last trip
39:48with my family
39:49was for
39:51Wrestlemania 23
39:52in Detroit
39:53and then after the match
39:55we flew back to Atlanta
39:56me, Nancy
39:57and Daniel
40:00my dad went to Mexico
40:02for a tour
40:03and then me, Nancy
40:05and Daniel
40:06were just hanging
40:07around the house
40:08taking pictures
40:09you know
40:10up by the trees
40:12with the dogs
40:13and then
40:15you know
40:16you know
40:16you know
40:19you know
40:20you know
40:24you know
40:24you know
40:28okay
40:28just let it out
40:31that's what this is all about
40:32David is absolutely
40:39a victim
40:40he's a great kid
40:41that was just dealt
40:42a bad hand
40:43and it's just not fair
40:44it's not right
40:45he didn't do anything wrong
40:46he's just an innocent
40:47bystander
40:48in all of this
40:50I felt that because
41:16Chris killed his family
41:18that the family
41:19he left behind
41:20was automatically
41:21blackballed
41:22from the world
41:22like they're gonna be blamed
41:25for what Chris did
41:26to me
41:27those two needed
41:28to be reconnected
41:29because
41:29talking with David
41:31and meeting Sandra
41:32and knowing she was having
41:33the same issues
41:34and pain
41:34and hurt
41:35that David had
41:37and nobody will ever
41:38really understand
41:39what they went through
41:41with the exception
41:41of each other
41:42so I thought
41:42if I could connect them
41:44if they had a chance
41:45to talk
41:45that maybe they could
41:47move on
41:47and still realize
41:49that they have family
41:50in each other
41:51Chris Jericho
41:52wrestling angel
41:53come to life
41:54he gave my number
41:56to my nephew
41:57and gave my nephew's
41:58number to me
41:58we hadn't talked
41:59since before
42:00everything happened
42:01so 13 years
42:04the last time
42:05we saw each other
42:06it's been a very long time
42:08she finally called me
42:10I answered
42:11we talked on the phone
42:12for probably a good
42:14two hours
42:15and now
42:16going to watch wrestling
42:18because I still love it
42:20it's in my blood
42:22feels like we never
42:24were apart
42:25felt like we just
42:26reconnected
42:27left off where we started
42:28nothing has changed
42:30she's still my auntie Zosia
42:31Chris lives on
42:34and David every day
42:35and Nancy lives on
42:36and Sandra every day
42:37and I think they were
42:38both lost
42:38when Chris and Nancy
42:40died
42:40so
42:42hopefully this will
42:43help them
42:43get found
42:44we feel better
42:46yeah
42:46the weight's been lifted
42:47because you guys
42:48have the same
42:48perspective
42:49you know
42:50and it's important
42:51for you guys
42:51to stick together
42:53on this
42:53right
42:53because you know
42:54yeah
42:54we can be friends
42:55and be supportive
42:56but it's not the same
42:57it's for you guys
42:58no it's not the same
42:59it's family
43:00yeah exactly
43:01I've never been
43:02I've never been more
43:07grateful and happy
43:08to see someone
43:09that I love
43:09as I was
43:10when I saw my nephew
43:11do you think
43:12you will ever
43:14be able to
43:15or want to give
43:16forgiveness towards Chris
43:17yes
43:19I think I do
43:20someday
43:20want to be able
43:21to forgive him
43:22I do
43:23because
43:24carrying around
43:26the burden
43:28of hate
43:28gets exhausting
43:31everyone deserves
43:34forgiveness
43:34and everyone
43:38deserves mercy
43:39so I think
43:41that within time
43:42there will be a day
43:44when I got on my knees
43:46and I finally say it
43:48that I forgive him
43:50you never know
43:55it might be tomorrow
43:55but
43:56I do know
43:58it's not today
43:58I do know
44:12you
44:12and then
44:12I'll show you
44:13so I'll show you
44:14love
44:14what
44:14you
44:15and then
44:16two
44:17and then
44:19come on
44:20and I'll show you
44:21and so
44:21I'll show you
44:22and then
44:23drive
44:24and I'll show you
44:26and then
44:26you
44:26and
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