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01:00Here. It's water.
01:05I was gonna make tea, but you don't have any.
01:11Go on, honey. Take a sip.
01:20Here they come. Here comes help.
01:21Hi. Come in. I'm Judith. I'm Marie's foster mom.
01:30Well, her former foster mom.
01:31She called me, and I came right over.
01:34I'm Officer Curran.
01:35Yes. Thank you. Um, come in.
01:39She's right over here.
01:40Marie, I'm Officer Curran. I'm here to help you.
01:45Can you tell me what happened?
01:50I was raped.
01:53Okay.
01:53Can you tell me everything that happened? Everything you remember?
01:59Um, okay. I was, I was asleep.
02:06Do you know what time this was?
02:08It was late. I didn't, I didn't go to sleep until four.
02:12So you were up late. Were you out?
02:14No, I was here.
02:16I went to bed early, but then Connor called, and we got to talk.
02:19Connor, is that a friend or boyfriend?
02:21A friend.
02:22He used to be a boyfriend.
02:25And how long did you talk?
02:28A couple hours.
02:29And you fell asleep?
02:31Yeah.
02:32What then?
02:40Then he raped me.
02:41Honey, you need to be more specific.
02:45Let's go back to when he was standing by your bed.
02:48Did he say anything?
02:51He said if I screamed, he'd kill me.
03:08I was asleep when she called.
03:10She was really upset, so I called 911.
03:18Then he, he took this thing out of his backpack and blindfolded me with it.
03:24Anything else?
03:27Yeah, um, a condom.
03:32And what happened after he blindfolded you?
03:34He tied my hands.
03:36No, um, first he tied my hands.
03:42Using what?
03:47Two laces.
03:49Also from the backpack?
03:52No, they were mine.
03:54Then what happened after that?
03:55And then?
04:05And then?
04:13Did he also penetrate you anally?
04:17Was the penetration with his penis or his fingers?
04:19Not his fingers?
04:25So when it was over, what happened then?
04:30And then he, he put something on my stomach and took a picture of it.
04:36You were still blindfolded?
04:37Hmm.
04:38How did you know he was taking a picture of you?
04:44Because there were flashes.
04:49And he said if I told anybody that he'd post a picture.
04:53Did he say anything else?
04:54He said that it wasn't as good as how he pictured it in his head.
05:05Can you give me a physical description of him?
05:07And he had a mask, so I can't...
05:10Anything that you remember will help.
05:12Was he short, tall?
05:14Tall.
05:16Race?
05:18White.
05:19Eyes?
05:20I don't know, like, light.
05:23Like, not brown.
05:30He had a gray sweater.
05:34Excuse me.
05:36What's going on?
05:37Are you a resident?
05:38I work in there.
05:39Go ahead.
05:40That's Marie's.
05:51I helped her buy it.
05:52She has a set.
05:54Uh, don't touch that.
05:55Sorry.
05:56Excuse me, miss.
05:56It's okay.
05:56I'm a counselor.
05:57Are you okay?
05:59Come here.
06:04I'm so sorry this happened.
06:06I'm so, so, so sorry.
06:08Hey, Judith.
06:10Hey, Becca.
06:19Oh, yeah.
06:20Sir, I, uh, got an initial statement from the victim.
06:23She's shaking up.
06:26Hi, Marie.
06:27I'm Detective Parker.
06:28This is Detective Pruitt.
06:29We're in charge of the investigation.
06:31Um, I know this is hard, but I need to ask you some questions about what happened.
06:36Uh, I already told him.
06:40Officer Curran.
06:41Well, that's good.
06:42Curran's a good cop, but I'm lead detective on this, so I need to hear what happened directly
06:46from you.
06:47Okay?
06:50Okay.
06:50And my partners need to collect some evidence for the crime lab.
06:54Is that okay?
06:58Okay.
06:59Let's start at the beginning.
07:02Uh, last night before all this happened.
07:04What were you doing?
07:05I-I was asleep.
07:07And before that?
07:11I was on the phone.
07:14Bye.
07:18You scream, I'll kill you.
07:20Sorry to interrupt.
07:27Uh, just to be clear, the blindfold and the condom were from his backpack, but the laces
07:32and the knife were yours.
07:34Got it.
07:35How long did the assault last?
07:37I don't know.
07:49And what happened when it was over?
07:55He left.
07:59Thank you, Marie.
08:00Um, I'll need to ask you some more questions down at the station a little later, but right
08:04now, you need to go to the hospital, they'll have to examine you, you'll need a change
08:08of clothes.
08:10Oh, I'm sorry, man, you can't touch that right now.
08:15Just tell the investigators what to get for you.
08:28Okay, you can turn around.
08:34Sorry, you're almost done.
08:54Again, I already told the cop.
09:04Two cops.
09:06I know, sorry.
09:08We need it for our records.
09:16I was asleep.
09:17I was asleep.
09:24No sign of forced entry.
09:27Gotta assume she left the door unlocked.
09:29Probably the sliding one.
09:31Body fluids?
09:32Collected two small stains from the sheets.
09:34Also found a couple of loose hairs on the floor.
09:36Prints?
09:38Lifted two parcels off the slider.
09:39Not enough to enter in the APHIS.
09:42What did the neighbors say?
09:44We're knocking on doors.
09:45There's so far nothing.
09:50You should go.
09:51I don't want to leave you, honey.
09:53No, go.
09:54It sucks when no one's there to pick you up from school.
09:57Oh.
10:03Okay.
10:06We'll check back in soon.
10:08It'll be a total of 12 swabs, four from the vagina, four from the rectum, and four from
10:20the area between.
10:21I'm also going to need to use a speculum to collect your vaginal discharge.
10:25I have to ask if you've had consensual intercourse in the last 72 hours.
10:30Here we go.
10:33Now I'm going to apply a dye to your genital area.
10:43It shows the difference between healthy tissue and injured tissue.
10:47Oh, not yet.
11:08Almost done.
11:09One more thing.
11:09Your signature?
11:34Here and here.
11:35Thanks.
11:38These are your antibiotics.
11:39In case you've been exposed to any STDs, four pills.
11:42You're going to take them all at the same time with water.
11:44This is your morning after pill.
11:45Just one, also with water.
11:50Now if you experience any of the following excessive bleeding, vaginal discharge, shortness
11:55of breath, trouble swallowing, hives, thoughts of killing yourself, there's a number there.
11:59I listed it on your instructions.
12:00Hi, Marie.
12:13How are you doing?
12:15I have a headache.
12:16I'm sorry.
12:18I'm trying to get you out of here as fast as I can.
12:21I just want to go over the incident once more.
12:25But I already told you everything.
12:27I know.
12:28It's tough.
12:29A lot of times, as a victim talks about a crime, new details come out.
12:34Uh, sometimes important ones.
12:35I really want to find this guy.
12:37I want to make him pay for what he did to you.
12:38And I want to make sure he never does it to anyone else.
12:41So, I need all the details I can get.
12:47So let's start at the beginning.
12:48All right, before the assault.
12:50It was late, I was in bed, I stayed up talking to Connor, and then at like four, I fell asleep.
13:00If you scream, I'll kill you.
13:04How would you describe his voice?
13:09I don't, uh, just normal.
13:13No accent, no defining characteristic.
13:18No, just a voice.
13:21Okay.
13:22What next?
13:28Hang on.
13:29Did you say a hoodie or a sweater?
13:32Uh, a hoodie.
13:35You're sure?
13:36I mean, yeah.
13:38Okay.
13:39And the actual assault, did he penetrate you vaginally, anally, both?
13:49Um, vaginally.
13:50Okay.
14:09Okay.
14:10Okay.
14:11You're not going to miss what they want.
14:14Then, like, you're looking.
14:23Um.
14:26Okay.
14:26You're not going to cry.
14:27operating now.
14:28You're not going to do...
14:30You're not going to cry.
14:35You're not going to cry.
14:36See you.
14:36Mom.
14:38Series.
14:38Mom.
14:38Two minutes.
14:39hang on five minutes
14:55around that yeah okay and after that he left right away no not like right away he
15:08took the blindfold off and packed up his stuff the blindfold and the condom but he left the knife
15:15and the shoelaces and then he left and what did you do then
15:34oh
15:46okay
16:04So, the call to the neighbor,
16:33that came after you talked to Judith.
16:35Yeah.
16:36And you called her because...
16:39What?
16:40I'm just wondering why you also called Amelia.
16:44Oh, she's... because she's my friend.
16:48Got it.
16:51Okay.
16:53Just two more things.
16:55This is a medical release.
16:58By signing it, you give us access to the information
17:00from the exam they did on you over at Snohomish.
17:02And, uh, this is a witness statement.
17:05I just need you to write out the statement you just told me.
17:14What? The...
17:16So, the whole thing?
17:17Yeah. We need it in your own words.
17:21Sir, I'm sorry. I'm just really tired and my head is just kind of killing me.
17:33Okay.
17:34Okay.
17:36Um, sign the medical release now.
17:40Take the statement home.
17:42I'll just fill it out in the next day or two and get it back to me.
17:49Okay.
17:54I'm so sorry.
17:55We're all here for him.
18:07I'm so sorry.
18:17We're all here for you.
18:31It's just really important to lock your doors.
18:33You've got to lock them.
18:40And your windows, you have to.
18:45You just have to keep yourself safe.
18:54You can stay as long as you want.
18:57Oh, Ty said I'll probably get a new apartment, Tori.
19:00So soon?
19:01I kind of like having you as a roommate.
19:08Are you calling Connor?
19:17No, my foster mom.
19:19Not the one that was here.
19:20Another one.
19:22Colleen.
19:23How many did you have?
19:25Oh, like a million.
19:28Colleen was a good one.
19:48Hi.
19:48It's me.
19:50So, how's she doing?
20:11She was raped.
20:12Last night, in her apartment, some guy broke in.
20:17Jesus, seriously?
20:20How is she?
20:21Is she hurt?
20:21She was raped.
20:29No.
20:30I don't know.
20:31No.
20:31No.
20:44No.
20:44No.
20:45No.
20:45No.
20:45No.
20:46No!
20:46No!
20:47No!
20:47No!
20:47No, no!
20:48Hey.
21:00Not good.
21:18Oh my gosh honey, I'm so sorry.
21:41It's okay.
21:42I didn't mean to scare you.
21:43It wasn't locked.
21:44It's alright, I was just taking some stuff upstairs.
21:52They got you in a place?
21:57Yeah, yeah, upstairs.
22:00Well that's good.
22:02Yeah.
22:05Wait, hey, hey, hold on a second.
22:08Hey, come here.
22:10Come here.
22:14How are you?
22:20Okay.
22:21You know, it's okay to not be okay.
22:24I know, I just, I uh, I've got a pack and Ty loaned me all these bins and he needs them
22:31back by this afternoon.
22:32I'm trying to hurry and stuff.
22:41Okay.
22:42Marie!
22:43Marie!
22:44Easy!
22:45Well, which do you like?
22:47Uh, looking for the ones that I had.
22:51They're right here.
22:52Maybe they don't have them anymore.
23:06Um...
23:07Hi, excuse me.
23:08Um, do you know where the green sheets with the little daisies are?
23:21They were just here.
23:23Everything we have is on the floor.
23:24Really, you had tons of them like three months ago.
23:26Can you just go check in the back?
23:28I mean, she said everything they have is out.
23:31It is.
23:32Oh, that's what they say at my store, but sometimes there's one or two of something left.
23:35It's not enough to put on display so the manager just sticks it in the back.
23:39We don't do that.
23:40Let's just pick another set of sheets.
23:41I don't really want another set.
23:42I want my set.
23:43I want the set that I had.
23:44Well, they don't have them.
23:46Well, they might.
23:48I'm back.
23:49I'm just asking you to check.
23:50I know what's there.
23:51I'm back there all the time.
23:53The only thing back there is more of what's out here.
23:55So you're not even gonna look?
23:56Marie, you're being unreasonable.
23:59I am?
24:00What about her?
24:01I'm sorry.
24:02It's okay.
24:03Seriously?
24:04You're siding with her right now?
24:05I'm not siding with anyone.
24:07Let's just choose some sheets and get out of here.
24:09I don't want these.
24:10I want my sheets.
24:12After what happened on them?
24:13If I were you, I would never want to see those sheets again.
24:15No, you're not me!
24:40Marie, come on.
24:41Where are your sheets?
24:42It's fine.
24:43Honey, it's brand new.
24:44It's fine.
24:45Marie, it's Ty.
24:46Oh, come in.
24:47Hey, Colleen.
24:48Hi, Ty.
24:49How are you doing, Marie?
24:50Good.
24:51Look, I'm almost done.
24:52Look, I'm all moved in.
24:53Marie, come on.
24:54Get up.
24:55You need anything else right now?
24:56No, I'm good.
24:57No, I'm good.
24:58Thanks.
24:59Okay.
25:00That changes you know where to find me.
25:01Okay, cool.
25:03I'm good.
25:04I'm good.
25:05I'm good.
25:06I'm good.
25:07No, I'm good.
25:08Thanks.
25:09Okay.
25:10That changes you know where to find me.
25:11Okay, cool.
25:12Thanks.
25:13Thanks, Ty.
25:14You bet.
25:15Marie.
25:16Honey.
25:18What can I do to do?
25:20I can't do my homework.
25:21I can't do it.
25:22I can't do it.
25:23I can't do it, but I can't do it.
25:24I can't do it.
25:25I can't do it.
25:26I can't do it.
25:27I can't do it, but I can't do it.
25:28I can't do it.
25:30I can't do it.
25:31It's so strange.
25:32I can't do it.
25:33Marie, come on.
25:35Get up.
25:36You, uh, need anything else right now?
25:37Mm-hmm.
25:38No, I'm good.
25:39What can I do for you? What do you need?
25:42Nothing. I'm good.
25:44Sweetie, what happened to you?
25:48It's a very big deal.
25:50I just want to be sure that you're getting the support you need.
25:53I kind of just want to put all this stuff away.
25:58So you don't want to talk about it?
25:59No, I'll talk about anything. I just want to...
26:02I just kind of want to get this done.
26:09All right.
26:23You call me if you need anything, okay?
26:25Okay, will do.
26:39Hey, Judith, it's me.
26:47Yeah, I'm just leaving her place now.
26:50Honestly, I have no idea how she is.
26:55She seemed, I don't know, fine.
26:59Like, like nothing had happened.
27:02It was weird that I was even visiting her or something.
27:05Oh, Barlow, I need a copy of a DCFS file.
27:11It's for the victim of that sexual assault at the Oakdale.
27:14Got it. I'm on it.
27:35Parker.
27:38Right, sure.
27:40How, uh, how are you doing today?
27:44Would it be okay if this stayed between us?
27:47You don't want me to take notes?
27:49I'd rather it be in confidence.
27:51I don't want it getting back to Marie.
27:54Sure.
27:55We can do that.
27:58I love her. I do.
28:00She was with me the last two years.
28:03She came here from Colleen's.
28:05Who's Colleen?
28:06Another foster mom.
28:07Marie was with Colleen for a couple of weeks
28:10before she came to me.
28:11Isn't that kind of a short stint?
28:14It was an emergency thing.
28:16The home Marie was in before, well,
28:19they had to get her out of there.
28:21So she went to Colleen's, but Colleen had a full house,
28:24so she couldn't keep her long term.
28:26So she came to you?
28:27Right.
28:28She was my first foster child.
28:30I thought they were gonna give me an infant.
28:32I had a crib and everything.
28:34And then this 16-year-old shows up.
28:36Must have been a surprise.
28:38Oh, I was fine with it.
28:39I love teenagers.
28:40I work at a high school in the principal's office,
28:43so I see a lot of them all day long.
28:47Got it.
28:48So you know her behaviors, what she was going through.
28:53It was all pretty familiar.
28:54That must have made it, uh, easier.
28:56For me?
28:57I don't know if it did for her.
28:59I-I hope it did.
29:01My point is, she has had a hard life.
29:06And not just the home she came from,
29:09but some of the foster homes, too.
29:12Has she been in situations you'd call, um, abusive?
29:17Some.
29:18Yeah.
29:19And that makes for a very complicated young woman.
29:26Then you add this move, being on her own for the first time.
29:29How long ago did she move out?
29:30About six months ago.
29:32And the transition's been hard.
29:34It's change.
29:35And change is stressful.
29:37So, yeah.
29:38She has been a little needier.
29:40A little more acting out.
29:43Acting out how?
29:45Still, I'm starting to get theengo.
29:48No.
29:49It's my mumbo's job
29:49with the hotel and the rent.
29:54That's inappropriate.
29:55Marie?
29:56Marie!
29:57Honey.
29:58Come on, tell, tell, tell, tell.
30:00Honey, settle down.
30:03Marie, that's enough.
30:05Marie!
30:06Hey, hey!
30:07Get off the table.
30:08Marie!
30:09Marie, there are children present.
30:11Enough!
30:13Get off the table.
30:14off the table right now right now just a whole lot of what i call look at me behavior
30:29it's okay an overly sensitive overly contrary all normal given the circumstances sure it
30:37sounds like a big change i didn't think she was ready for it but she insisted so
30:43i supported her right so anyway yesterday morning she called and told me what happened
30:49right yes and i was just horrified angry upset worried all of it i went straight over there right
30:57away and i don't know the whole thing just felt off
31:08off how just not right how she was acting and reacting well you saw her she was detached i guess
31:21there's a range of reactions to this kind of thing i know believe me i have my own experience with it
31:31your own experience i was sexually assaulted in my 20s a guy i was dating i'm sorry thank you
31:41my point is i know about this and given the way she was acting and everything else i don't know it just
31:47all felt off and then those weird details he brought a blindfold but nothing to tie her with
31:54would a shoelace even hold her and then that thing about him taking the picture
32:01what about it well just hypothetically say she's gotten herself into a situation with some boy
32:08and there is a compromising picture out there or she thinks there might be
32:13are you saying you think marie made up the attack i am not drawing any conclusions i just
32:22i woke up this morning with all this stuff spinning around in my head and i thought you guys should
32:32have the whole picture the context i might not have even called but then i talked to colleen and she
32:40said she was feeling weird about it too so you both have some doubts about marie's story not doubts i just
32:46thought since i had this feeling maybe i had an obligation to share it with you
33:16her
33:19can i go now
33:28sure here i'll walk you out
33:32let me ask you one thing just so i'm sure i understand
33:37in your statement you wrote that you tried calling connor
33:41her then called judith then cut yourself free yeah
33:49in that order yeah
33:53all right thanks again marie
33:56you're welcome
34:04she told us you were the first person she called after the attack
34:08yeah she told me that too i felt so bad
34:11i didn't hear it i don't sleep with my phone in my room so you two are close yeah
34:18friends more than friends friends we
34:22we used to date but are you and she sexually active um not no not no
34:31when she called the morning of the assault did she leave a message
34:41she just hung up can i confirm that on your call log
34:45oh uh sure
34:46here it is thanks and then uh when was it you finally talked to her she called that night
35:01um
35:041048
35:07and what did she tell you
35:08that um she had been raped and did she give me any specifics yeah she said that
35:17she woke up and a man was there with the knife did she describe him physically
35:24uh-uh but i guess after the um the rape um she said he left did she say what happened next yeah
35:35yeah i guess she was still uh um tied up so she dialed the phone with her toes
35:43with her tellers
35:48you're sure about that
35:50i mean yeah that's what she said
35:53dialing with your toes
35:56not really a detail you'd be inclined to forget you know the hard evidence we have
36:01the shoelaces are from her shoes the knives from her kitchen no sign of forced entry
36:05no identifiable prints no body fluids hey detective there's a child and family
36:10service as well oh great thank you is that hers yeah oh man
36:18jesus
36:36marie
36:40marie what are you doing
36:42what are you doing um that's cookware these are vacuums
36:51i'm sorry uh shoot where where where do these go again forget it ramie
36:57what are you doing um
37:10hello
37:11marie it's detective parker
37:15oh hi
37:17listen i was wondering if we could meet again
37:19why am i in trouble
37:33what she asked if she was in trouble
37:37hmm in my experience when someone asks am i in trouble yeah they usually are
37:44okay i'm gonna cut to the chase i found some inconsistencies in your statements and those of other witnesses
37:57i i don't know anything about that how about you walk me through it again
38:01tell me exactly how the assault happened again one more time yes
38:05okay i was in bed asleep
38:21rary i'd like to back up a little and talk about what came before all this
38:27dcfs shared your file with us
38:29well why we wanted to get a clear picture of who you are beyond this assault as a person
38:41oh
38:43you've been through a lot you're a real survivor aren't you
38:47no dad uh unreliable mom with not so nice boyfriends then foster care which wasn't always much better i'm
38:55sure sometimes sometimes it was good my point is you've made it through some very difficult stuff
39:02i don't really like to think about that i just try to be as
39:07happy as i can be and as happy as possible so sure i get that so help us out
39:13there are inconsistencies in your story i mean the dialing alone we have four different versions
39:21tied untied with your hands with your toes i dialed with my hands and why'd you tell connor you used
39:26your toes i don't maybe i did you just told us you didn't well it's what i don't
39:37it's it's confusing for us too and we're not the only ones
39:41what do you mean there are other people who don't know that what you told us about the rape
39:52that it's the truth
39:55who well judith for one she said that and connor's statement what about it it's also inconsistent with
40:04yours so he knows the version you told him and then he finds out it's not what you told us it makes
40:10it very hard for him to believe you too he said that he didn't believe me i don't what why why would
40:16he why would he say that and then there's the crime scene i mean we couldn't find any physical evidence
40:21there was anyone else in your apartment that night but there was marie i want to be really clear about
40:29something we don't think you're a bad person absolutely not and i also don't think this was some
40:36big thought out thing but given the inconsistencies in your story and the lack of evidence this is
40:42becoming a puzzle that is hard for us to piece together all right so i'm gonna tell you a version
40:48that does fit together okay a young woman been through a ton of bad stuff on her own for the first
40:56time just broke up with her boyfriend feeling isolated lonely might on the spur of the moment
41:06come up with something without thinking it through that would get her the attention she needs
41:14because you haven't gotten enough attention in your life i can see that
41:17you haven't been cared for or protected and that's not your fault so marie tell us
41:31we need to know it's our job is there really a rapist running around that we should be looking for
41:38for three three we can't leave here until you give us an answer
41:52no there was no rapist no one came in your apartment and the shoelaces the night you did that
42:17okay thank you marie can i go now we need a statement all right uh since your other statement's
42:35already in the file uh we need you to write a new one with this new information okay
42:47here same deal fill it out with what you just told us and then yeah you can go home
43:07well that's that jesus yeah
43:20tell you i'm glad we caught it early remember that case over in king county last year college student
43:26and the history professor guy spent a week in jail before she admitted she made it up
43:31didn't he sue her i think he did yeah i don't blame him i feel for it though i'm christ feeding a
43:42little girl dog food who does that you can't take care of a kid use a fucking condom
43:47oh my god simple change oh god
44:05there you go
44:07your bride home i can take the bus you sure we can give you a lift that's okay
44:14okay we can have these yeah all yours hang on what is this this is not what you just said
44:26i dreamed that i was raped when i woke up it felt so real i believed that it had happened
44:33marie what's going on you just said there was no rape you just said that
44:41it's okay come on sit back down
44:50let me explain something our job mine and detective parker's
44:56is to protect the public that's it that's the whole gig time in here with a witness
45:04that's time that we could be out on the street
45:07keeping people safe now that's part of the job it's fine we're happy to do it as long as the time in
45:13here is valuable if it's about something real this is not a worthwhile use of our time this is a waste of
45:21our time
45:33i'm pretty positive that it happened pretty positive or positive maybe i blocked it out
45:40marie you're a smart young woman clearly you must understand the way you're handling this
45:51you say one thing you write another there is a rapist there isn't one
45:58it's a dream it's a blackout you've told us four different versions
46:03at this point regardless of what the truth is the only thing we know for sure is that you have told us
46:09at least three lies
46:11what do you think should happen to someone who would lie about something like this
46:23what do you think should happen to someone who would lie about something like this
46:29i should get counseling
46:39okay
47:05okay
47:10okay what okay all right the statement now
47:25okay
47:38marie
47:40what are you doing careful you're gonna scratch the just wait a second will you i'll back the car out
47:48just let me help you marie thank you help me with the police what do you what does that mean
47:54what does that mean i don't know what you were told or what you heard but i did not do i didn't
48:00do or say anything listen this sounds like a big miscommunication i didn't tell the police anything
48:08other than some background on you i told them about where you've been and what you've been through that's
48:13it i may have told them you've been sensitive lately but it's true you have been now don't do
48:21that don't pull a big disappearing act we are having a conversation here don't just abandon it
48:26it's marie marie
48:39Marie, can we talk a sec?
48:57I wasn't lying.
48:59What do you mean?
49:02I told the truth the first time when you said you were raped.
49:06You're saying that was true?
49:07So why did you tell the police it wasn't?
49:10I don't know.
49:12I was really tired, and they just kept pestering me.
49:15Pestering?
49:16Yeah, like asking me the same question over and over again.
49:19How come your story doesn't add up?
49:20How come people don't believe you?
49:21Is there really a rapist out there?
49:23I just, I, I, I, I wanted to go home.
49:26If there's a rapist running around, and you've told the police there isn't,
49:30you need to go back and clear that up now.
49:32But I gotta go to work.
49:33Marie, this is important.
49:37You want to take back your statement, taking back your statement?
49:45Yeah.
49:47All right.
49:48Let's do this again.
49:55Detective Parker isn't in today.
49:57This is Sergeant Reinhardt.
49:59How you doing, Marie?
49:59So, let's back up a little.
50:04Talk about what caused this turnaround.
50:07Did something happen last night when you went home?
50:10Did, did they give you a hard time about lying?
50:15No.
50:16Really?
50:17Because those guys downstairs, oh, are they your counselors?
50:20Yeah.
50:21Yeah.
50:22Yeah.
50:23Uh, they seemed kind of pissed off.
50:26And I get that.
50:27They put all this time and energy into thinking this horrible thing happened,
50:32and then find out it didn't.
50:34I mean...
50:34I mean...
50:35I remember him on top of me.
50:45Marie...
50:46Marie...
50:50I know this is hard, and I'm sorry about that, but I have to remind you of what's already
50:58happened.
50:59You already told us you lied.
51:02You already said you staged evidence.
51:05You swore to it.
51:06You signed your name.
51:08So, given that, how are we supposed to believe you now?
51:15I could...
51:16I could take a lie detector test.
51:19Yeah, you...
51:20That's right.
51:21You...
51:22You could.
51:24That's an option.
51:26But you need to know, if you take it and fail, that's called making a false statement.
51:33It's a crime.
51:34Um, so, do you want to go downstairs for the polygraph, or do you want to just clear this
51:44all up with us in here?
51:47Um, maybe...
51:51Maybe I was, um, hypnotized.
51:59You know what?
52:00Fine.
52:01Let's do the polygraph.
52:02Let's go.
52:03But here's the thing, Marie.
52:06The guy running it, he's not going to ask, were you hypnotized into thinking you were
52:13raped?
52:14Did you dream a rape?
52:16He's going to ask you one question.
52:19Were you raped?
52:22That's it.
52:23And if your answer turns out to be a lie, I have no choice but to arrest you and put
52:29you in jail.
52:31Wait, why?
52:32Making a false statement is a crime for a reason.
52:35It impedes our ability to do our job, to keep the public safe.
52:38That's why we enforce it.
52:40That's why we prosecute it.
52:42I also suspect your living situation with the counselors and the stipends and all that,
52:48you lose all that if you have a record, right?
52:52But, like I said, if you want to do a polygraph, you're free to do one.
52:57You need to know the risks.
53:02But, yeah, the decision is yours.
53:05So, what's this story?
53:23Nope.
53:24Totally made up.
53:26Says she didn't think it would turn into such a big thing.
53:29So, we're going to close the case.
53:32Right.
53:34Call me if you have any questions.
53:36Yeah, thank you.
53:47Why would you do that?
53:49Why would you freak us out like that?
53:50That's...
53:51It's sick is what it is.
53:52You're sick, you are.
53:53You knew how scared this would make us.
53:55Guys, let's try to put this in terms of feelings.
53:57I'm feeling mad.
53:58Betrayed.
53:59Disgusted.
54:00Angry.
54:00Really, really angry.
54:04Marie?
54:05Do you want to say anything?
54:07That's insane.
54:36Amelia?
54:42No.
54:42Okay, just...
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