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00:00Here's Ian Rappaport on NFL Network this morning.
00:04Kyle Shanahan telling reporters yesterday that Brock Purdy is a long shot to play this week.
00:09It could be a multiple-week injury.
00:11My understanding is that Brock Purdy is out two to five weeks.
00:15Two to five weeks for Brock Purdy with what is essentially a variant of turf toe.
00:21It is a ligament injury that affects the bottom of his foot.
00:24Call it turf toe if you want.
00:26That's basically what Kyle Shanahan has said.
00:28But two to five weeks for Brock Purdy, which would put him out at least the Saints game this week,
00:33the Cardinals game next week, and then we'll see.
00:36It is swollen.
00:37It is irritated.
00:38No one knows how it's going to react.
00:39But certainly it seems like the 49ers are looking at probably two starts for Mac Jones,
00:45their backup quarterback, and maybe more.
00:48And it's been tough early on for the 49ers, guys.
00:51I mean, obviously you had the Christian McCaffrey minor injury to start out.
00:54Week one, he ended up playing.
00:56You have George Kittle on IR with a hamstring injury, another battery of injury for the 49ers.
01:02A lot of challenges early on.
01:03Okay.
01:04So that last part, obviously, is well-traveled territory for 49er fans.
01:09Maybe this will do a better job of sort of explaining where I am on this.
01:13I found this to be interesting because, as you've said, okay, Brock Purdy is out,
01:19but they've got an experienced backup.
01:20Right.
01:21They brought in for this situation.
01:22He'll be making his 50th career start.
01:24How come at the summit last week, everybody freaked out when Christian McCaffrey was thought
01:33to be hurt?
01:34Because you have a backup who has never played in the system before, and you don't know if
01:40he is going to actually be able to do what Christian McCaffrey does.
01:44His backup has also never played in the system before.
01:46Correct.
01:47And his backup, McCaffrey's backup, is probably.
01:51A very good player.
01:52Yeah, we'll see.
01:53Better in his position than Mack is at his.
01:55For sure.
01:56That's to be determined.
01:57You know, I think that, you know, Brian Robinson got basically traded for a song by the team
02:03that had him, and now he comes here and he's a backup.
02:06Mack Jones was now on his fourth team, and he's also a backup.
02:10It's interesting to me because the comp is right there for everybody.
02:16All of the things that you've kind of said are why you wouldn't panic, and I don't want
02:22to speak for you, maybe you weren't panicked last week, but it was very, very clear that
02:27the audience we were talking to, and even a lot of our brethren here, the idea of Christian
02:34being hurt, the calf injury, the breaking news sounder, the moan that came over the
02:39crowd, was very much, oh my God, this is a disaster.
02:45Now, a week later, the exact same thing happens, but it's not Christian.
02:50It's the quarterback, and the response seems to be, well, we're fine.
02:55Not a disaster.
02:56I just, like, and again, I don't want to speak for how you felt about Christian.
02:59No, it's two different things, though.
03:00That's what I'm observing that is, in my mind, is off course as far as a reaction.
03:07Well, it's two different things.
03:08One is a calf, which he already had a calf last year, and so you're thinking calf, Achilles,
03:13season over.
03:14So you're thinking season.
03:15You're thinking season.
03:16I think we all were.
03:17I mean, I wasn't.
03:18I was thinking he is not practicing, he's got a calf, and it's like, oh, Schmidt, this could
03:24be the same thing as last year, bilateral tendonitis, and he missed half the year because of
03:28that, and Brock Purdy has turf toe, and it's going to be two to five weeks.
03:33It might be fewer than two.
03:35It might be more than five.
03:36We don't know what it's going to be.
03:38Just because Ian Rappaport reports what he does, he doesn't know.
03:42He doesn't know how bad the toe is.
03:44Nobody knows.
03:45Brock might be better in eight days.
03:48He might be out for eight weeks.
03:49It'll probably be somewhere in between.
03:51So we don't know.
03:53My panic level with McCaffrey was higher because of the nature of the injury and the fact that
03:59because it's his calf, it could be the Achilles, and oh my goodness, it could be the whole year.
04:04It could be his career.
04:05That's fair.
04:06I certainly was not thinking of that.
04:08Like, we had to at least get some more information before I was thinking about it being the entire
04:13year.
04:14Again, the very next day, he trotted out onto the practice field with his helmet.
04:18So, like, to me, this is, this all-caps text that just came through on the Boxer and Gerson
04:25work injury attorney's text line is how I feel, maybe not for you, but for a lot of people.
04:32650 texting in all caps because fans don't really have faith in Purdy and think he's a difference
04:40maker.
04:41And so I won't speak for you, but I do feel that.
04:44The panic level of the idea of Christian being out hit people as a way, way bigger blow than
04:53the idea of Brock Purdy missing time.
04:56There are other aspects of this.
04:58I like your point.
04:59Maybe the Christian thing felt like, oh God, he's never going to play again.
05:02Also, at that time, the Niners were 0-0.
05:05Now they're 1-0.
05:06That's different.
05:07They've got a game in hand, a bird in hand.
05:09Some people think road division wins are worth two.
05:11So our perspective is always changing, but I do think it's also fair for me to point
05:18out what I'm pointing out.
05:20I started off the show by saying, tell me you don't actually really think Brock Purdy's
05:24a great quarterback without telling me that you don't actually think Brock Purdy's a great
05:28quarterback.
05:29I feel that today.
05:30Well, you're putting those thoughts into other people's head.
05:33No, I'm responding to what I'm hearing.
05:35Well, you're responding to what you're hearing by putting thoughts in other people's head because
05:39I don't think any different about Brock Purdy.
05:42My whole opinion is based on Mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan.
05:46I still think Brock is really good.
05:48Mac is not as good as Brock Purdy.
05:50The fact that I am not that disheveled or that moved by the fact that Brock is going to
05:57be out doesn't have a lot to do with my feelings about Brock Purdy.
06:01That's fine, and you're one person, and I'm not directing this all at you by any stretch.
06:05You just spoke to what it was last week when you heard the Christian thing.
06:09From what I heard from people I talked to last week, this week, I think there is a very clear
06:15difference in panic level, and I would actually suggest to you that, and I think we talked
06:22about this, to me, a Brock Purdy-Brian Robinson combo, I would take over a Mac Jones-Christian
06:28McCaffrey combo, if needed, over a long period of time, every single day of the week.
06:34Yeah, not me.
06:34Every day of the week.
06:35Not me.
06:36I don't even think it's close.
06:37Yeah, I think it's close, but you look at week one, who was the more impactful player,
06:43McCaffrey or Brock Purdy?
06:44Brock Purdy, not even close.
06:45Christian McCaffrey got 31 touches, and without George Kittle, he became the majority of the
06:52offense, and the offensive line didn't create a lot of holes, and he was able to go out there
06:57and make it happen.
06:57He averaged three yards a carry, and Brock Purdy hit him for nine balls with the highest
07:03pressure rate that he's ever faced in his career.
07:05And a lot of those were checkdowns and shorter throws, and McCaffrey was able to make a lot
07:10out of it.
07:10And McCaffrey totally bottled up on the final drive.
07:13You have Brock Purdy in this game, and you most likely will have Christian McCaffrey,
07:17I hope, for the entirety of the game, and you're going to be leaning on McCaffrey now
07:21with Brock Purdy out even more than you did last week when you gave him 31 touches.
07:26Yeah, well, I mean, the touch thing, again, that has to do with time of possession and
07:29so many different things.
07:30But I understand what the stats of it were, but if you really dive deep into what the
07:35Niners needed when they were down with three minutes to go, Christian barely did anything
07:41on that drive.
07:42And Brock Purdy brought them down the field.
07:44He hit Ricky Pearsall.
07:45He hit Tonjes a couple of times.
07:47Right, three times, yeah.
07:47Yeah, Christian averaged three yards a carry.
07:50Christian had a nice game.
07:52It helped fantasy teams if you were in a PPR.
07:55Christian was not amazing, and Brock was not amazing.
07:58But what happened in the end of the game, like, to me was, yeah, I would much rather have
08:03the quarterback.
08:04I'm always going to rather have the quarterback.
08:06Yeah, and what happened at the end of the game, you said it yourself, was you called
08:11it luck.
08:12Yeah, they got a lucky break.
08:13Craig Cosell called it luck until I had to correct him that it wasn't luck, and he agreed
08:18that luck was probably the bad choice of words.
08:20So, you know, you call it luck, and then you lean on Brock Purdy.
08:24He basically threw the ball, mostly up for grabs on that play.
08:28No, not a good idea.
08:28John just made a play.
08:29Not a good idea.
08:30And if you look at the end of the first half, he made the exact same throw, which, I mean,
08:35that thing could have been intercepted.
08:36It was a third down play.
08:38Which one?
08:38The end of the first half, he threw the same ball, he threw a lob ball up for grabs into
08:44the corner.
08:45Nobody caught it.
08:46You had two defenders running for it.
08:47Oh, I remember that one.
08:48And then Jake Moody came out and missed the field goal right after that.
08:50It was out of reach.
08:51It was similar, kind of just like...
08:54But it was out of reach.
08:54But it wasn't a throw it away out of bounds.
08:56No, it didn't get out of bounds.
08:57It was a throw it away, but that was a little bit of a scary throw, and it was almost the same
09:02throw as the Tonjes one that he caught.
09:04Like, would you, would anybody, do you all think Christian is more important to this
09:08offense than Brock?
09:10I mean, to me, like, we can get into that if you want.
09:14Good Lord.
09:15I mean, if this was, again, fair point that you make about the Christian feeling might
09:19have been that it was going to be like season ending, career ending, all of the thoughts
09:24that went through our head last week, that's fair.
09:26But if you told me right now, Christian's out two weeks, or Brock is out two weeks, which
09:33one would you take?
09:34Good Lord.
09:35I'd trade Christian for Brock for two weeks right now in a heartbeat.
09:39In a second.
09:42Every time.
09:43Yeah, not me.
09:44Okay.
09:44Especially in this situation where you've got Mack Jones, a guy who I think can step in
09:49and be more of a suitable backup.
09:52And yeah, if you have Brian Robinson.
09:53I'm running back in the room, too.
09:54Sure.
09:54Yeah.
09:55But you've got Brian Robinson, who you're just going to lean on him for 31 touches, or you're
09:59going to go to Isaac Garendo, who got no offensive snaps.
10:02All of them.
10:03To me, that's a bigger step down than going to Mack Jones, a guy who, you know, he's got
10:08to be his 50th start as a quarterback, a guy who's actually been out there and done
10:12it, and whether or not Shanahan had a crush on him in the draft or not, he's a guy who
10:17they clearly liked this offseason.
10:20He liked him.
10:21He liked him.
10:21And they liked him in March when they rushed out in the free agent market and gave him
10:25a pretty good-sized contract for a backup quarterback.
10:29Let's go to John and Benicia.
10:30Hi, John.
10:30Thanks for calling.
10:31Hey, thanks, guys.
10:35I'm going to have to be with Diddley on this one.
10:37I mean, I think that in terms of a safety valve and, I mean, Christian McCaffrey's your
10:43security blanket.
10:45And to me, you don't replace the binky.
10:49I mean, you can buy another toy, and that's pretty.
10:52But I think what's going to be really interesting is that, Diddley, if what you're saying comes
10:57true over the next, let's say he's out three or four games, and Mack looks impressive, how
11:03much are we going to regret giving away that 50 mil?
11:06Probably not at all.
11:07Well, so, John, what I find interesting is the fact that you're even asking that question
11:13already.
11:14And that's what I'm trying to sort of say today without it sounding like I'm being offensive,
11:19and thank you, John, to Mack Jones.
11:21But do you notice that?
11:23Like, we're already asking, could Mack Jones take the job?
11:27He hadn't even taken a snap yet.
11:28Right, he's not taking the job.
11:30Like, if he's out five weeks, and he goes 5-0, and the Niners are 6-0, and Brock Purdy's
11:36toe is finally all better, and the shoulder's better, he starts the next game.
11:41So, I don't think that you're going to get into regret.
11:44Now, if Brock Purdy comes back, and they immediately lose four in a row, and, you know, we're going
11:49to be doing a ton of radio about, you know, Mack or Brock, Brock or Mack, but I don't think
11:54the team is anywhere close, or will be anywhere close, to regret of the contract that hasn't
12:00even kicked in yet.
12:01Right, if that happens, I'm just going to become a Warriors correspondent, and somebody
12:04else can do this with you.
12:06I don't even want it.
12:07That scenario you just played out, that's a nightmare.
12:09Yeah, I mean.
12:10That's a nightmare, and it's not going to happen.
12:11But anyway, like, that's what I'm getting at.
12:15And if that's how you feel about Brock, that's how you feel about Brock.
12:20But the idea that any fan, with a 1-0 football team, and the new contract in hand, with a
12:29turf toe injury now here, would already, their head would already go to, hey, if Mack Jones
12:35wins the next three or four games, do you regret the contract?
12:40To me, you have to at least admit, if you're one of the people who feels that way, you have
12:45to admit, you're not 100% sold yet on Brock.
12:50And that's okay.
12:51You can be sold on him, but you can also be thinking that you gave him too much money.
12:56Yeah.
12:56And I guess that...
12:57You can think that.
12:58Because you gave him $53 million, which starts next year.
13:01He's only making $9 million this year.
13:02But next year, when that $53 million kicks in, you're going to have to make some roster
13:06moves, probably.
13:07And you did this past offseason.
13:09Moves that you had to make because you can't afford guys.
13:13And you did that with Banks, a guard who you probably would have liked to keep.
13:17And you couldn't keep him because he was making too much money.
13:20He got a free agent deal that you couldn't afford.
13:22And so, he's gone.
13:23So, the money that you're going to have to pay Brock, that becomes more of a regrettable
13:27thing next year.
13:28Yeah.
13:29But, like, we're zero games into the era of him not playing and already asking the question
13:35and not to me.
13:35There's stuff tucked in there.
13:37That's all.
13:37There's time for that on Monday.
13:40Well, I mean, Mack goes to New Orleans and they win, you know, 24 to 13.
13:44And Mack throws for 280 and two touchdowns.
13:47People are going to call in on Monday and say, eh.
13:49That's exactly what Brock just did.
13:51He just threw for 280 and two touchdowns.
13:52And two interceptions as well.
13:54Yeah.
13:54Absolutely.
13:56Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
13:58Here's one that I would love to address real quick.
14:00We'll keep going on the phones.
14:02Would you rather, like, would you swap out Christian and Brock if you could?
14:06I sure would.
14:06But this text just came in, 9-2-5.
14:10And there's no way for me to prove this the same way there's no way to prove your point.
14:14But I think it's a fun discussion.
14:16The text says, we had Brock every game last year and no McCaffrey.
14:20And how'd that work out?
14:21Well, all I can do is give you my opinion on how it would have worked out.
14:26And I would say that if it had been Christian, if Christian had played last year, I still think they're 6-11.
14:32And here's why.
14:34First of all, they had the leading rusher in the NFL while they were about two-thirds of the way through the season.
14:41They had the leading rusher in the NFL.
14:43So, it's not like the person filling in for Christian went out there and was awful.
14:49And I will continue to stand on any soapbox I can find to tell you that the Niners were 6-11 last year because they could not stop the run on defense.
14:57That was their number one problem.
14:59And Christian would not have fixed that.
15:02So, that's kind of where I sit.
15:05And that's why, yeah, Mack is in, and Brock are in a better spot this year, it seems, than anybody would have been last year.
15:13I also think we need to pause with the whole, like, the Niners have a great defense.
15:17Like, we have too many opinions that are based on one week right now.
15:20Right.
15:21I have no idea.
15:22One opponent, too.
15:22I have no idea who these teams are.
15:24I don't know that the Saints suck out loud.
15:26Well, we'll see.
15:26I think they do.
15:27But Seattle's, like, at the end of the year, they don't play Seattle again until week 18, which is kind of a weird bookend of the schedule.
15:34But Seattle might not be very good, and they might be still figuring out how to run the ball.
15:40And I think they changed out their entire offensive line or almost the entirety of their offensive line.
15:45And they have a defensive head coach.
15:47Right.
15:47So, week one is probably not going to be indicative of who they're going to be come week 18, and we'll find that out.
15:53And New Orleans might be better than we think, and they're certainly going to try to run the ball with Camaro.
15:58We know that.
15:59Travis in San Jose is next.
16:00Hi, Travis.
16:01Thanks for calling.
16:02Willie and Dibby.
16:04How are you guys doing today?
16:06Awesome.
16:07We're fantastic, Travis.
16:08How are you?
16:11Today in San Jose, you're going to take my kid to first tee golf, but just wanted to chime in.
16:15Let's go.
16:15As you guys know, you know, it's really about Kyle Shanahan, guys.
16:19Nothing to worry about.
16:20You got Brock Purdy a couple days out.
16:22You got Christian McGaffrey.
16:24But, you know, I'm going around in circles because it's just going to be about Kyle Shanahan and X's and O's.
16:30So, Travis, I'm down with that opinion because you're admitting sort of like the two options that I threw out there.
16:38You're saying that you think Kyle Shanahan is an absolutely elite coach.
16:42Is that fair?
16:43Yes.
16:45All right.
16:46So, then we're good here.
16:48Again, that's all.
16:49Travis, thank you very much.
16:51That's all I said.
16:52For those of you who see a Brock Purdy two- to five-week injury and you shrug your shoulders and you go, eh.
17:02I believe you're saying one of two things and you get to pick which one.
17:06You either really don't think Brock is all that.
17:10By the way, that's fine.
17:11You can think that.
17:12A lot of people do.
17:14Or you're saying Kyle Shanahan is uber elite.
17:18Or you can also say that.
17:19You're saying that Mac Jones is not as bad as everyone thinks.
17:22I think that's the third part.
17:24And you keep leaving that out because you don't think that.
17:27I don't buy that one.
17:28Right.
17:29That's what I'm.
17:30Well, you don't have to buy it.
17:31It's my opinion.
17:32So I'm not trying to sell it to you and I don't need you to purchase it.
17:36It's my opinion that Mac Jones is better than you think and the combination of Kyle and Mac is good enough to where, yeah, I'm not super panicked over the fact they don't have Brock Purdy.
17:47And then again, you combine it with Kyle.
17:48Of course.
17:49You combine everything with Kyle.
17:50What evidence do you have?
17:51Look at Jimmy Garoppolo without Kyle.
17:53Right.
17:53He stinks.
17:54Right.
17:54He was great with Kyle.
17:55He stunk when he didn't have Kyle.
17:57So everything connects with Kyle.
17:59So then you are picking one of my options, which is Kyle is uber elite.
18:04The third option part of it is Mac Jones, because when you had Josh Dobbs, I didn't feel this way.
18:10What's the evidence?
18:10And when you had Brandon Allen, I didn't feel this way.
18:12I want to explore that.
18:13There's no evidence.
18:14He's never played a real game with Kyle Shanahan.
18:16So there's no evidence.
18:18But your point was is that you think Mac is not as bad as others.
18:21That's right.
18:21Based on?
18:22What I've seen.
18:23Watching him play football.
18:25Okay.
18:25Watching Mac Jones and the fact that Kyle Shanahan either reportedly wanted to draft him or didn't want to draft him.
18:33One thing I do know, they went out on the first day of free agency and gave him guaranteed money to be the backup, which tells me that Kyle Shanahan likes him.
18:41Whether or not he wanted to draft him in 2021, that to me is water under the bridge.
18:45I don't even care.
18:46He likes him.
18:47I know he likes him because they just gave him guaranteed money.
18:49He liked him then, too.
18:51They gave him $5 million guaranteed to be the backup.
18:53So that tells me that Kyle thinks that he is a good enough quarterback to be QB, too.
18:58So that is the evidence.
18:59I've always agreed with you that Mac Jones is a high-level backup.
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