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00:00Hello and welcome to It's About Youth. My name is Saraya Mia and on today's episode we have a very
00:13special guest. Her name is Hawa Rizwana Rizwan. If you don't know her yet, she was a news and TV
00:21anchor, actually studied journalism, but now an up and rising superstar. She has just
00:26ventured her career into acting as well as modelling. So thank you so much, Hawa, for joining us on the show tonight.
00:33Thank you, Saraya for having me. Hi, Hawa. Everybody probably who don't know you yet, they want to know, you know, how did you begin your career? Tell us, tell the audience.
00:43Okay, alright. Thank you so much for having me. Long story short, and I've never even planned to, you know, be a news presenter or a TV host or even an actress.
00:55But I just follow the flow. I studied my best and then at the same time, I started my internship at this one talk show, live talk show program.
01:08We talk about women's issues and current affairs. So I did my internship there and they offered me to work as a journalist and a TV news presenter at that time. That was in 2017.
01:21And after a year and a half at this one TV station, and then I was offered to another TV station also as a journalist and TV news presenter.
01:32Then I was a full-time employee and I decided to pursue my master's because I think I need, I need a backup.
01:40And at the same time, in case one day I might want to go into the education industry.
01:47So what master's course did you take?
01:49Communication.
01:51Yeah.
01:52Okay, carry on.
01:53Because that's what I studied for my degree, journalism. So might as well take something familiar, right?
01:58And then I found that I didn't even have any time to breathe because you work, you know, as a journalist, you work like nonstop.
02:08Of course, understand.
02:09And at night for the news segment, it's like from like four until nine.
02:15And then with other offers to work like to create contents.
02:20Because now that's the era and then after that I decided for survival, for stability.
02:27I decided to quit as a journalist and just present the news as a part-timer.
02:32But I enjoyed it so much.
02:34And then I was like, what a waste because I studied journalism and then just present the news.
02:40Okay.
02:41But at the same time I was doing my master's so you can't have it all.
02:43Yeah.
02:44And Alhamdulillah, three months later I got offered for the talk show that I did my intern.
02:50And then another talk show we talked about health.
02:54And then I was offered as a radio announcer.
02:59It's like more of a serious genre.
03:03We talk about current issues.
03:05And then long story short, last November I entered the entertainment industry.
03:10It wasn't in my plan.
03:13And then right now I'm doing Molotov, Radio Era on Saturday.
03:17And just started acting.
03:20So that's the whole story.
03:22That's a lot and a lot of things within a couple of years.
03:26It does sound like you want to actually pursue in the future perhaps in education.
03:34And perhaps the media industry, people in general might look at you like, oh, she's probably beautiful, popular.
03:42But then they don't get the part where you're actually beauty with brains.
03:47So what would you like to advocate to people who are interested to pursue their career?
03:53Because generally this episode we are talking about media content creation and how this industry is actually a very growing industry.
04:01Aside from the mainstream media, we also have social media.
04:05And on social media platforms you have quite a following.
04:09You have about 800,000 followers on Instagram.
04:13Thank you for following.
04:16So what is your advice to all of these young people, young Malaysians who actually want to pursue their career in sort of the media industry or content creation?
04:25Sorry Aya is being too kind right now.
04:28But it's all rezeki.
04:30But yeah, to me have something extra and have the right intention.
04:35It's not all about glam.
04:37Because right now, especially with all these social media platforms, everyone can easily be famous, be known easily for good reasons or the opposite reasons.
04:48But to me have the right intention because if you truly have passion to give information to other people, to be the first to give the right exact information to other people and at least have something extra.
05:03If you're into fashion, you can be a fashion journalist.
05:06You can be a fashion TV host.
05:08If you're into law or policy, you can be a news presenter.
05:12You know, you can be a TV host.
05:15But to be the one that people inspire, you have to have something extra.
05:22Absolutely.
05:23Yeah, I totally get your point on that one.
05:25And I so agree with your point when you actually said, you know, having a following, you actually have sort of a responsibility.
05:35It's not about just the glam.
05:36You want to advocate, you want to educate the public.
05:39So, perhaps, you know, what do you think, you know, the media industry currently, what does it lack and where do you think it could actually, you know, improve?
05:49Yeah, yeah.
05:50It's very tough because right now everyone wants to be the first to, you know, to share the news or the stories.
05:57To me, I mean, it's doing okay.
06:01But at the same time, I wish there would be more positivity.
06:06There would be more positive or good news.
06:09We should celebrate more.
06:10We should like advocate more and give more awareness in terms of, because right now, as much as there are so many advantages of social media, there are disadvantages.
06:23Mental health, I mean, people should be more aware of.
06:27So, I think, I think we should highlight more on the positiveness instead of, you know, gossips.
06:34Yeah.
06:35So.
06:36Negative gossip.
06:37Yeah, yeah.
06:38It's always room, you know, to make things, to create drama.
06:40And I guess when we have a responsibility online, I mean, it's always good to be kinder to others.
06:46Yeah.
06:47And as readers also, because sometimes we have to choose what we read, right?
06:52But sometimes it's just there on your timeline.
06:54We have to choose, okay, what is the get out from this?
06:57Okay.
06:58If this news is negative, how to make it positive?
07:01How can I be a better person by reading this as much as it's so negative?
07:06But it depends on us.
07:08Yeah.
07:09Well, okay.
07:11So, let's talk a little bit about, you know, the good side about social media.
07:14Yeah.
07:15We understand that this industry also has a very big potential to grow entrepreneurs, you know, per se.
07:22Yeah.
07:23People are calling themselves, you know, content creators, influencers, and even entrepreneurs.
07:29So, what are your thoughts about this?
07:32Okay.
07:33I'm really amazed by people who can create content, you know, with all the transitions.
07:38I've shot like many videos, but it's not going to happen.
07:41Susah.
07:42Susah.
07:43Susah.
07:44Because with all the time and commitment and their creativity.
07:46So, I think we should celebrate that.
07:48But as entrepreneurs, I think it is good.
07:52It is good because you can work and you can sell your products everywhere and anywhere.
07:57But I think it's good for them to know some ethics because I'm quite worried of the future generations.
08:05Because, you know, they see all this, they read and they hear all these languages that they're not supposed to say or know.
08:15So, I think it is good.
08:17It is good.
08:18We should celebrate it and we should support, especially our local entrepreneurs.
08:22But at the same time, I think there should be someā¦
08:26More regulations?
08:27Yes, and guidelines.
08:28Guidelines.
08:29Okay.
08:30So, in terms of when you talk about, you know, regulations and guidelines.
08:33Yeah.
08:34And if this industry, you know, is growing and continuously growing, what do you think the Malaysian government
08:38or the communications and multimedia industry could actually do to better the industry or at least in the social media space?
08:47Yeah.
08:48Because we heard that TikTok restrict those 18-year-old and below to use TikTok more than an hour, if I'm not mistaken.
08:57But yeah, I know it's not easy to like block anyone to do this and to do that.
09:03But I think be more strict on the products that are sold on social media and probably those who are really qualified to sell products.
09:15So, I think more on that.
09:17But other than that, I thinkā¦
09:18Actually, that's a very, very good point.
09:20You know, nowadays we see a lot of entrepreneurs and I mean, by all means, it's great that people are starting their own businesses
09:27to make a living and whatnot.
09:29But also, my question to you is, what about, you know, these products that are over-promising,
09:34that are, you know, some influencers, they take any products at all.
09:38Yeah.
09:39And then they perhaps have a very minimal knowledge on the product.
09:43And then they advocate with about, you know, 2 million sometimes, 3 million followers on Instagram.
09:48Everybody sort of just, you know, believe what they say.
09:50So, what do you think about this?
09:52Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:54Because I was there, I was younger.
09:57And then at that time, it's all aboutā¦
09:59Okay, at that time, my followers from 6,000 and suddenly within days, it went up to 80,000 for some reason.
10:08And then there were offers to review products and products that you've never heard of, but they pay good.
10:14But luckily, I have my parents.
10:17I mean, at that age, you were quite rebellious.
10:19But luckily, I have my parents, my dad and my mom.
10:23They always told me that it's not all about the money.
10:27It's about your credibility.
10:29And it's about how people see you.
10:31If you promote like everything just because of money, your image.
10:35So, I think we should choose and be sincere about it because as you grow and I think experience do help and the people around you that advise you.
10:46I think you have to pick and choose the products that you really use.
10:51And if you haven't used it, I think you should like experience it before you share because that's the responsibility.
10:57And anyone can be influencers but to maintain because everyone can easily be famous but for survival, for long term, you should be more careful and be wise in choosing.
11:14So, choose your products.
11:16Choose your brand as well.
11:18Because in this industry, you are your own boss.
11:20So, you sort of choose what kind of image you want to put out there and what kind of influence or what kind of what do you want to share with the general public.
11:30So, we are going to talk more about how we pivot into maybe acting, hosting and also radio announcing after the break.
11:50Hello and welcome back to It's About Youth.
11:59I'm Saraya Mia and I'm speaking to former news anchor journalist Hawa Rizwan who now is a lot of things actually.
12:10She's now into acting, she's now a radio announcer as well as a host and also modelling.
12:18So, Hawa, before we get into, you know, more on your career, just now on the first clock.
12:22I love your name.
12:23Oh, thank you.
12:24Yeah, when you first texted me to Saraya Mia.
12:26Oh wow, beautiful name.
12:27Thank you, thank you so much.
12:28That was so random but yeah.
12:30Okay, anyway, I was talking about, you know, how you started your career and then you had to mention actually, Yang, before this you suddenly had like, you know, people started following you.
12:43Or you went viral, they call, right?
12:45Yeah, I wonder why.
12:46And a lot of people know you for, you know, how you look like Nilofa, sort of.
12:50Yeah.
12:51So, do you think that also has had influenced or helped your career in some sense?
12:58Like it or not, people recognise me because of that.
13:02But, Alhamdulillah, to be compared to Nilofa, she's someone who's amazing.
13:07She's very beautiful.
13:08She's very smart.
13:09And I've known her since I was 14, you know, been reading her.
13:13Yeah, yeah.
13:14Oh, okay, okay.
13:15And then, it's very inspiring but at the same time, to be compared to someone who's really experienced, sometimes...
13:24Pressure.
13:25Yeah, pressure and emotionally not okay.
13:30But, I've worked with her and then she's amazing.
13:34She's really inspiring.
13:35So, I think it helped me to be more comfortable with it, with the comparison.
13:41But, at the same time, I don't think that anyone want to be known as someone who look like this or look like that.
13:49And I think it helps me or it forced me to know my strength, to know what I'm good at, to be known as me, myself.
13:59Someone who are well grown by my parents.
14:04Yeah.
14:05So, now you're your own person.
14:07Hopefully, insha'Allah, I'm still learning, still finding myself.
14:10We all are.
14:11We all really are.
14:12So, tell us how the transition really was, you know, like you said you've never really been into entertainment.
14:17Because, you know, journalism, current affairs and entertainment, it's not that similar.
14:22At all.
14:23Tell us your story.
14:24Okay, because it was never in my plan.
14:27I've never dreamt of becoming an actress or an entertainment TV host or radio era even.
14:35But, alhamdulillah, it's so different.
14:38But, at first, I wasn't really well received by some audience.
14:44Because I think they've seen me on the news on like serious programs for more than five years.
14:51I've been doing that for more than five years.
14:54And it's different.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Because on entertainment, the content are different.
14:59And your body language is different.
15:01Your language even is different.
15:03For example, on serious talk shows, you can't even say Quran.
15:08Yes, yes, of course.
15:09You say andah like all the time.
15:10And I've been saying andah for five years.
15:13Do you actually say that and meletok like andah?
15:16At first.
15:17Sometimes.
15:18Yeah.
15:19But, depends on your guests and your audience, right?
15:21You can't say Quran to like senior actors, right?
15:25Or is it?
15:26I have no idea.
15:27I would probably just go in and be like, hey Quran.
15:29I don't know.
15:30Yeah, yeah.
15:31That's why I'm in news.
15:32Yeah.
15:33And then that's some of the challenges.
15:36But I'm learning from Nabil, my co-host.
15:39Even my friends from ERA, Radin, Paazat.
15:42They're like so relaxed.
15:44And I think because of my personality as the only daughter in the family,
15:47my parents are really, really strict.
15:49So I think my personality and my experience in working with news
15:53shapes me to be someone who is quite uptight maybe and very controlled.
15:58So I'm glad.
16:00I think that's the hikmah of Civil 9 Innings of suddenly jump into the entertainment industry
16:06to find the other side, the fine side of me.
16:10So it's been like five months, I think, and I'm learning.
16:15And I hope one day we'll find our strength and what we're good at.
16:20Yeah.
16:21Yeah.
16:22It's definitely a process, especially, you know, discovering new sides of ourselves.
16:26Yeah.
16:28In different segments of the media industry that you go into.
16:32Now you mentioned just now, you know, some of the challenges or one of the challenges.
16:36What are perhaps other obstacles that as a women, you know, to be on the forefront of things,
16:44you know, not only on television, but also on social media, dealing with people called, you know, netizens.
16:52Have you ever had any experiences for yourself?
16:54Gosh.
16:55Yeah.
16:56I've had.
16:57But Alhamdulillah, there are more support than, you know, hatred.
17:02But at the same time, you know, there are like 100 comments commenting about how good you are, how beautiful you are, how they love you.
17:11But sometimes there are like one comment that talks bad about you that's so negative and you tend to focus on that one comment.
17:20Yeah.
17:21It's not easy and you tend me lah.
17:23I tend to overthink about it over and over again.
17:26Trust me, me too.
17:27Yeah.
17:28But luckily I have my cousin, my support sister, my friends that are willing to hear all my rants, my complaints about these comments.
17:40So I think different people, they, we deal differently.
17:44So with me, I cry or I tell them like, why, why are there these people in this world and why they exist?
17:52And why do they have the heart to say these things?
17:55So to me, as long as it's back to our intention, our intention of posting or doing anything or wearing anything is, we know the right intention.
18:05So believe in that.
18:06And as long as you have your family and friends who tell you that what you're doing is okay, that you're on the right track.
18:11So that's, that's fine.
18:13That's okay.
18:14I really like the part about intentions.
18:15Yeah.
18:16Sometimes, you know, we get, we tend to get lost.
18:18Yeah.
18:19We tend to get lost in perhaps the fame, the numbers and then we forget, you know, like why is the reason?
18:24What is the purpose that you are actually given this opportunity in the first place?
18:28Okay.
18:29So now let's talk a little bit more about back, like backtracking.
18:32All right.
18:33Throwback.
18:34So Hawa was actually born in the U.S.
18:37Yeah.
18:38Good.
18:39But now you're currently a Malaysian citizen.
18:40So are you, right?
18:41Yes, me too.
18:42So the difference between me and Hawa is that actually her, both of her parents are Malaysian.
18:47Meanwhile, my, my, my mom is Malaysian and my father is not, he's, he's, he's foreigner from, from Thailand.
18:54And the situation, so the situation for citizenships, you know, to, to confer to these children born overseas is very different.
19:04I was actually not given the, the, the natural or the automatic citizenship rights.
19:09Um, meanwhile, um, Hawa was given the automatic citizenship rights because of both of her parents.
19:14Yeah.
19:15It's actually a topic that's being, being talked about a lot.
19:18Um, since last year.
19:19Uh, it was actually about two years.
19:21Yeah.
19:22Two years ago.
19:23Yeah.
19:24Yeah.
19:25Yeah.
19:26Yeah.
19:27We are actually awaiting for the, uh, amendments to the federal constitution to allow automatic citizenship, um, to the children born to Malaysian mothers and foreign fathers.
19:37Yeah.
19:38And this would be tabled in parliament, uh, sometime soon.
19:41So, uh, Hawa, with everything that I just shared just now, what, what are your thoughts on, you know, this, this equal citizenship thing in Malaysia?
19:48Yeah, because I was born there, um, until I was two, then we moved to Subang Jaya.
19:55I mean, to Malaysia and Subang Jaya.
19:57Mm-hmm.
19:58And then, uh, I mean, to me, it's not a problem because, um, I mean, I wish that we can have dual citizenship so that it's easy for us to go back there.
20:06Yeah.
20:07I wanted to pursue my master's there or PhD maybe, maybe, inshallah.
20:11But, you know, it would be easier if your, um, your citizenship is, uh, USA, right?
20:17Mm-hmm.
20:18But right now, mine is Malaysia.
20:20But I have a friend, um, both of his parents are Malaysian.
20:24But they're there in Illinois, in USA.
20:27Um, he's a footballer.
20:29Mm-hmm.
20:30And he was offered to play for Malaysia.
20:32Ah.
20:33Yeah.
20:34His parents both are from Malaysia.
20:35But he can't because of his citizenship is in the US.
20:39But he's a good football player.
20:41Mm-hmm.
20:42So, he can't play for Malaysia.
20:43So, to me, that's, that's a waste.
20:44Because he was trained there for years.
20:46Mm-hmm.
20:47For 18 years.
20:48He's a good football player to represent Malaysia.
20:51But, um, because of the citizenship, he couldn't.
20:55Mm-hmm.
20:56So, to me, I wish, I wish, uh, it would be easier for the future.
21:01Yeah.
21:02And for people like you as well, right?
21:04Mm-hmm.
21:05Yeah.
21:06So, how was your, um, process actually, you know, conferring the citizenship?
21:09Mm-hmm.
21:10So, you, you moved back to Malaysia?
21:12For good.
21:13Well, when you were how old?
21:15Two.
21:16Two.
21:17Yeah.
21:18So, you just, you just went back and then you were just, um, you changed your situation.
21:21Yes.
21:22Just like that.
21:23Yeah.
21:24It's just like that.
21:25Yeah.
21:26It's very simple.
21:27But, you know, there are so many advantages if you have dual, uh, citizenship.
21:30Malaysian government, if you're watching this.
21:32Hopefully.
21:33Yes, please.
21:34Yeah.
21:35So, we have a lot of, definitely a lot of, uh, issues that we, that should be prioritized.
21:38Yes.
21:39Especially this equal citizenship rights.
21:40Mm-hmm.
21:41And we're hoping, you know, this bill, uh, will be, uh, passed in the, in the first stage.
21:45And then perhaps, you know, be made into a law to actually allow all Malaysian children,
21:50doesn't matter if their mom or their father is, um, um, Malay, I mean, Malaysian.
21:55They, they all deserve, uh, you know, equal citizenship rights.
21:59Or automatic citizenship rights.
22:00To make it fair.
22:01Yes.
22:02Exactly.
22:03We're, we're all about, um, you know, equality, equity and whatnot.
22:06Okay.
22:07So, how, um, you said also that you, you were still in current affairs now, right?
22:12Mm-hmm.
22:13So, you still do.
22:14I'm still open to doing it.
22:15You still open to doing it.
22:16Yeah.
22:17So, um, in, you know, the, the journalism industry, uh, what was your beat?
22:20You know, you said that you, you had, um, interest or you started with talking about
22:23women issues, um, health as well.
22:26Yeah.
22:27So, if you are, if you were to like grow yourself in, in certain issues, what would,
22:31what would you advocate?
22:32What's your beat?
22:33Mm-hmm.
22:34You know, I've never planned to do anything.
22:36That's bad.
22:37You better plan.
22:38I don't plan either.
22:39Really.
22:40Yeah.
22:41I wanted to, you know, I have like so many ambition, like to be a fashion designer la,
22:44to be a scientist, a lawyer, but apparently I was a broadcast journalist, TV host, and
22:49suddenly an actress.
22:50Um, you know, probably people see that I'm doing it all, but at the same time, I don't
22:55have my focus.
22:56Okay.
22:57So when you ask this, this is a really valid and a good question because I'm still looking
23:01for it.
23:02Mm-hmm.
23:03But I think right now my interest is more on mental health, probably health, and probably
23:08the opportunity, opportunities given before are more on women lifestyle and health issues.
23:15So I think, um, probably that's what I'm trained and my interest is that.
23:20So I think I'll probably create more content on that.
23:24The plan is there, but haven't executed them yet.
23:29At least you, at least you have a plan right there.
23:32So yeah.
23:33Because I don't want my postings to be all OOTDs, all fashion.
23:36Yeah.
23:37Yeah.
23:38At least you want to give some value, some knowledge.
23:40Yeah.
23:41Exactly.
23:42And I, I totally, um, agree that I feel that it's, it's great that you have that, you
23:44know, mindset and also the background that you had the experience.
23:47Um, so yeah, even if you don't, if you, if people have their interest in, in certain
23:52topics, I feel like, yeah, it's, it's really great that, um, people would, you know, do
23:55their proper research, of course, before, uh, before posting anything and then, yeah,
24:00maybe educate the younger generations out there.
24:03So, um, we have just about like one or less than one minutes left.
24:06I know.
24:07Do you have anything you'd like to tell the audience finally, you know, on, on, on, you
24:12know, for youth?
24:13Yes.
24:14For the young Malaysians venturing into content creation.
24:17Uh, what's your, what's your final words for them?
24:19All right.
24:20Just enjoy your journey and do whatever you like.
24:22But at the same time, make sure that before you create, before you post it, um, remind
24:29yourself of the intention of doing it.
24:32The, the, give up or, uh, the impact that you want to give to your audience.
24:38So enjoy and do your very best.
24:40Okay.
24:41So that was Howa Rizwan Rizwan.
24:43Thank you so much for joining us on It's About Youth tonight.
24:45My name is Saraya Mia and we'll catch you on the next episode.
24:49Bye.
24:50Bye.
24:51Bye.
24:57You
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