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For Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus Energy, business leaders who do not recognize the practical and economical opportunities in the world of clean energy and sustainability are being “lazy.”
“We've got a planet with eight or nine billion people. I think we should be putting everything we can on the table and not being lazy and solving this problem,” Jackson told the crowd on a panel at the TIME100 Climate Leadership Forum on Sept. 24 in New York City.
Jackson was joined by fellow 2024 TIME100 Climate honorees Wally Adeyemo, former deputy secretary and COO at the U.S. Treasury, and Pam Cheng, executive vice president and chief sustainability officer of biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, a sponsor of the event.
“We've got a planet with eight or nine billion people. I think we should be putting everything we can on the table and not being lazy and solving this problem,” Jackson told the crowd on a panel at the TIME100 Climate Leadership Forum on Sept. 24 in New York City.
Jackson was joined by fellow 2024 TIME100 Climate honorees Wally Adeyemo, former deputy secretary and COO at the U.S. Treasury, and Pam Cheng, executive vice president and chief sustainability officer of biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, a sponsor of the event.
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00:00That was such an inspiring panel. So incredible to really be able to experience and hear directly from leaders about the Green Revolution that's already underway.
00:11I think for many of us that have spent our careers working on climate change will recall that, you know, initially climate change was about emissions and it was about something happening in the distant future.
00:22They called us tree huggers, right? You all remember that? As if it was just about trees.
00:28Fast forward to today, we've seen this incredible recognition and understanding that climate change isn't just a corporate social responsibility or a charity issue.
00:40It's material. It's part of what will define businesses and the economy of the future.
00:48But we want to make sure that's not just a talking point.
00:51The objective of our panel here is to really dive a bit deeper and to understand if that statement is in fact true.
01:00Is climate action and business value connected?
01:04Inherently, does acting on climate lead to more profits, lead to growth and lead to a competitive advantage?
01:12So I'm delighted to be here with three leaders that represent very different sectors and perspectives to shine some light on climate action and what it looks like in the context of the industry and the sector that you work in.
01:29So, Pam, let's start with you.
01:31You are at AstraZeneca and your purview extends far beyond sustainability purely.
01:35You're also responsible for IT and global operations and supply chain.
01:41So from your standpoint, how do you see climate action?
01:46Is it part of a core business function?
01:49Is it an exercise to kind of mainstream or streamline all of your operations?
01:56What does that look like for you in the health sector?
01:58So it's a great question. Thank you.
02:00It's so great to be here today.
02:01So if I can back up a minute, before I came here this week, I was a bit nervous about the energy level, the momentum we've built.
02:11What would it be like and feel like this week?
02:14And it's super cool to see the momentum, the energy completely alive.
02:20But we cannot ignore the fact that there's a lot of challenges in the world today and it takes a lot of resilience.
02:26So as I was hearing you speak, Shaila, the word I can think of is it takes a lot of resilience and determination to stay on course today.
02:34And more important than ever, that sustainability has to be integrated into your business objectives.
02:40That's the only way to do it.
02:42If you do sustainability as a function on a side, you're pushing that boulder uphill.
02:46So I'll give you one example.
02:48Within AstraZeneca, you know, we work in this sweet spot of planet health, taking care of our planet, and taking care of human health, taking care of patients around the world.
02:59So one of the things we definitely see sustainability as a competitive advantage, we fundamentally believe operating sustainably means it's good for business, medium term and long term.
03:15The reason I did, I skipped short term because there's a lot of work to do in the short term, right?
03:21I'll give you one example.
03:22We have a product called a PMDI inhaler.
03:26It's for asthma patients, rescue device.
03:29Patients depend on that device to stay healthy or save their lives.
03:33There is a component called propellant in that inhaler.
03:37It helps deliver the medicine directly to the patient's lungs.
03:41However, the propellant is also a global warming potential.
03:46Six years ago, we decided we need to go out, set out and find a near zero global propellant, warming potential.
03:55So a more sustainable propellant for our inhaler.
03:59The only problem is it didn't exist.
04:01So we had to partner with companies to develop the more sustainable propellant.
04:06We invested over half a billion dollars in doing safety trials, clinical trials to ensure that the device is safe along with a sustainable propellant.
04:18And I'm so happy to say six years later, it's now a reality.
04:22We have approval in the UK and EU and we are actually now supplying inhalers with sustainable propellant.
04:29Now, you may say, have AstraZeneca just gone mad?
04:33You invested half a billion dollars in something that you didn't have to do.
04:37But we did it for two reasons.
04:38One, we believe if we did nothing, at some point in time, regulators around the world would say,
04:44you cannot supply that inhaler because it's bad for the environment, right?
04:50So we want to stay ahead of that journey.
04:52We want to be progressive.
04:54And the second reason is to show the industry an example and hopefully inspire and motivate other companies to do the same.
05:02Yeah, so it's almost like a pre-compliance measure.
05:07And so you're ahead of the game.
05:08You're going to save money or a cost that would have incurred in the future.
05:12And so in that way, you've taken what may have been seen as a cost center into a value creation mechanism.
05:19Absolutely.
05:20And not forgetting the fact that if we couldn't supply this inhaler, ultimately, who suffers the most?
05:26The patients who need them.
05:27Yep, and the costs that they would bear in terms of their health and resources.
05:31I'd love to pull on that same thread of it not necessarily being easy.
05:37And Greg, I heard you speak a few months ago, and you were challenged as to why some companies may not be realizing the green revolution that we just heard about,
05:49that there's this inertia.
05:51And many of them refer to the higher cost or it just being really difficult.
05:56And you said that was lazy.
05:57Can you explain a bit more what you meant by lazy and what that means for how you run your business and your company, Octopus Energy?
06:06Yeah, I'm conscious here.
06:08I don't want to be critical of individuals or companies.
06:12But in many ways, you know, the opportunity to speak truth is the greatest service you can give people.
06:18And I think there are two forms of lazy in corporate world which are counterproductive in the world of energy.
06:27The first form of lazy is the traditional oil and gas industries who look at the world of clean energy.
06:36And, you know, they've kind of tried it.
06:39A lot of them have done a little bit.
06:41But just like Rupert Murdoch found social media difficult when he bought and then killed MySpace,
06:47they haven't been able to do the hard work to adapt to a different world.
06:53But the other kind of lazy are actually the ones that we often look at as being the good guys, the heroes,
06:59the clean energy companies that rely entirely on subsidies.
07:02Now, we need subsidies to get going in new industries.
07:08Because to begin with, the new industries, they're not volume, they're not scale, they're not mature technologies.
07:13But if your business model becomes a permanent addiction to the subsidy,
07:18the problem is that one day, for example, when you've got cost of living pressures,
07:27citizens can quite easily be turned against that and you lose the public support.
07:32So I think the really hard work is to say, actually, it is our duty to work unbelievably hard
07:42to find ways in which we can run a clean energy world that doesn't need subsidies,
07:49that can compete on its own merits.
07:53And I should say a couple of things, right?
07:54So one of the greatest inspirations for me is the movie Apollo 13.
07:58Look, the guys are up there, stranded on a crippled capsule,
08:05and no one on Earth gave up.
08:09The whole planet cared about the lives of those three guys.
08:13And there's a magic moment when the mission commanders
08:16put all of the pieces that are available in the station on the floor and the table
08:22and say, this is all we've got.
08:24How can we save them?
08:26And that's how we need to be thinking about this, right?
08:28We've only got one.
08:28That was three guys.
08:30The whole planet was transfixed.
08:31We've got a planet with, I don't know, eight or nine billion people.
08:34I think we should be putting everything we can on the table
08:36and not being lazy in solving this problem.
08:39And look, I should say, I think we live this unbelievable...
08:43Let me give another movie reference.
08:45Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, right?
08:48Indy is running through the temple.
08:50The arrows are flying.
08:52The boulder is about to close the door.
08:54And he dives through, right?
08:56And magically grabs his hat because he's that cool.
08:58But that is the moment we are at, I think,
09:02which is we've had the easy times,
09:04but the technologies are just now...
09:07They're real.
09:08Solar plus battery in half of US states.
09:12Solar plus battery can generate 97% firm power
09:15for roughly the same price as your wholesale costs.
09:17That's available right now if we work hard
09:20to create the solutions for it.
09:22Electric vehicles in some countries,
09:24they're cheaper to buy than a petrol car, a gasoline, sorry.
09:27And they can be three or six times cheaper to run.
09:31Now, we've got to change.
09:32Of course, we want to take the old industries with us.
09:36That's going to be hard work.
09:37But we cannot let the fact it's hard work stop us from doing it.
09:44So that's really, really encouraging to hear.
09:47And it's great to see that you're leading the way
09:49through your company and your approach.
09:51But how do you balance affordability of your product
09:55to your customers with perhaps the higher upfront costs
09:59that you may need to invest in some of these greener solutions?
10:02I mean, look, first of all, this thing about higher upfront cost.
10:06When a factory installs a load of robots,
10:09that's a higher upfront cost.
10:10But it does it so it can cut prices immediately.
10:13Look, this investment,
10:15if stuff is going to generate cheaper electricity,
10:17we should be taking that low cost
10:20and not making an excuse as a higher upfront.
10:22Now, let's just talk about a few things.
10:24That's why I want to talk about working hard
10:26and being innovative and creative.
10:27We work with house builders in five countries
10:30to build houses that don't have energy bills, right?
10:35They just have heat pumps, solar panel,
10:37a battery and a smart hot water heater.
10:39And we can optimize this stuff to eliminate bills altogether.
10:43They don't have gas, right?
10:45They're comfortable, they're cheap.
10:47And we've solved affordability in those houses.
10:50With electric cars, you can now get, you know,
10:53electric cars now available.
10:54We've got batteries that go both ways.
10:57In a couple of countries,
10:58we offer people 12,000 miles of free driving
11:01as long as they plug their car in
11:03for a certain amount of hours a month
11:04so we can use the battery as part of the grid, right?
11:08The myth, the myth that this is more expensive
11:10and affects affordability should be gone.
11:13Now, don't get me wrong.
11:14I think people earlier talked about the fact
11:15that our energy systems have been configured
11:17to handle fossil fuels.
11:19So it's hard work, right?
11:21We've got to have the ability
11:22to manage smart grids dynamically.
11:25But when the wind is blowing, the sun is shining,
11:27we've got the cheapest energy we've ever had.
11:29Batteries have fallen 10x in price in the last 10 years.
11:32They're set to fall another 10x over the next five years, right?
11:35These technologies are here.
11:36And by the time we're building,
11:37there's a five-year delay for gas turbines.
11:40By the time you get delivery,
11:42you're being better off waiting and putting batteries in.
11:44It's just hard work, but it's better.
11:46Yeah, thank you, Greg.
11:48And Wally, to bring you into this conversation,
11:51you have a decorated career of working in government.
11:54And we're in a really challenging time
11:57when it comes to having political support
11:59or policy support, whether it's tax credits
12:02or other forms of regulation to help accelerate
12:05the adoption of green technologies.
12:08Are you seeing a slowdown now that, you know,
12:11we've had a few days of Climate Week,
12:13you've probably met with a lot of companies and investors.
12:15What is your take on where we are today?
12:18And is the lack of that regulatory push
12:21slowing things down and slowing us down?
12:24It's great to be here.
12:26And it's good to be here with both of you.
12:28And I think I'll start with cost
12:29because I think that we often don't think about
12:32the true cost of not making the transition.
12:35And you start with that young person with asthma.
12:39That's a cost.
12:41You think about the person
12:42who can't farm on their land anymore.
12:46That's a cost.
12:47You think about irregular migration.
12:49That's a cost.
12:51You think about that family
12:52who owns a house on the coast
12:55and they can no longer insure that house on a coast.
12:58That's a cost.
12:59And I think the reason that despite what I'd call the headwinds,
13:05I remain positive about the medium term
13:08is because people are starting to see those costs.
13:12They're starting to see them in the United States
13:13in their electricity bills, which are going higher.
13:16And because they're going higher,
13:18now they're thinking,
13:19what can I do to reduce that cost?
13:21Can I install solar?
13:23Can I send back to the grid?
13:24And it's not only individuals, it's companies.
13:27And companies are saying,
13:28the cost of energy for my company,
13:31no matter who I am,
13:32is something I need to manage.
13:33And the best way to do that
13:34is to think through sustainable options
13:36because I'm thinking about this over the long term.
13:39And you just heard the last panel
13:42where they talked about the solutions
13:43that are being developed around the world.
13:45And I think that because of the increase in costs,
13:49you're getting into a place
13:50where the economics on so many of these things
13:53now makes sense in such a way
13:55that you're going to start to get to scale
13:56in places like India, in places like China,
14:00in parts of the world
14:01where you're seeing the population grow
14:03and you have the ability to reduce emissions over time.
14:06And in a place like the United States
14:08where you're right,
14:09the policy uncertainty has been rough.
14:11And you've seen,
14:12I spent a great deal of time
14:13working on the Inflation Reduction Act.
14:15We've seen a number of those provisions rolled back,
14:19but some of them still exist
14:20in terms of the tech neutral provision.
14:21There's still time on some of the provisions
14:24that were created in terms of years.
14:27And for many of these technologies,
14:28for example, you take solar and batteries.
14:31Those innovations are likely going to pencil
14:35without subsidies over the next few years
14:37as these costs go up.
14:39So I leave the conversation seeing these headwinds
14:42for recognizing that what all of you see,
14:45which is the costs keep going up,
14:47which is leading people to realize
14:49that we have to make the transition.
14:51Is it possible for the United States
14:53to still maintain any kind of competitive edge
14:56from what you've seen?
14:58And I think that assumes that we had
15:00a competitive edge and a clean energy.
15:02And I think that one of the things
15:03we were trying to do
15:04was develop a number of these things.
15:07And one of the ways that we're going to do that,
15:10I think,
15:10is because some of these tax credits still exist
15:12that are going to give,
15:13for example,
15:14the tech neutral tax credit,
15:15which will give people the ability
15:17to invest in thinking about new technologies.
15:20For example,
15:21when you think about nuclear technology,
15:23small modular devices
15:25is something where the United States
15:26has the opportunity to think about development.
15:29But fundamentally,
15:30the goal here has to be
15:32that the United States,
15:34like every other country,
15:35is going to have to compete.
15:36And it's not,
15:37and I know we often focus on governments,
15:39but the truth is that this competition
15:41often happens at the level of companies.
15:44Companies that are innovating
15:45because,
15:46not only because they care deeply
15:48about addressing the energy transition,
15:51but because they see that
15:52this is something in which
15:53I can make money doing.
15:55And we're seeing that happen
15:56in companies here in the United States,
15:58but we're also seeing it happen
15:59in companies around the world.
16:01And ultimately,
16:02that innovation is going to be the key
16:04to having the kind of technology,
16:07because ultimately technology
16:09has to be part of the solution
16:10that's going to help solve this problem.
16:12Shada, can I add to that?
16:13So, as Wally,
16:15as you were talking about costs,
16:17you know,
16:17working for a life science company
16:19and doing what we do,
16:21the one thing I can think of
16:22in terms of costs,
16:23above and beyond what you say,
16:24are lives at stake.
16:26So, we know the interdependency
16:29between climate crisis and human health.
16:32I don't know if you guys know,
16:33but 13 million people died
16:35around the world a year
16:36just from pollution
16:37and extreme temperature.
16:40So, last night at dinner,
16:42I said this to my neighbor
16:43and they thought it was pretty cool.
16:44I'm going to share this with you.
16:46And I said,
16:46when we transition to green energy,
16:49when we decarbonize our value chains,
16:53when we are using,
16:54generating less waste
16:55and using less natural resources,
16:58do you know you are contributing
17:00to saving lives?
17:01Simply put,
17:02we are all interdependent.
17:04It takes each and every one
17:06of these things
17:07that we are talking about,
17:08whether you,
17:09no matter what sector you are in,
17:10one action at a time
17:12to make a difference.
17:13Yeah.
17:14And I want to ask you also, Pam,
17:17I mean,
17:17there's no conversation today
17:18that will be complete
17:20without artificial intelligence
17:21and talking about,
17:22especially if we're talking about
17:23competitive edge
17:24and the future,
17:25how are you using AI
17:28from a sustainability standpoint
17:31to maintain
17:33or advance
17:34your competitive edge
17:35at AstraZeneca?
17:36I think that's a great question.
17:37So I get a lot of,
17:38so I've got multiple day jobs.
17:40I speak to myself
17:41about sustainability targets.
17:43It's pretty cool, right?
17:44I mean,
17:44we build it into business strategy
17:46to make sure
17:47we meet our targets.
17:49On AI,
17:50I get a lot of questions
17:52when I get out there
17:53and talk about AI
17:53and saying, Pam,
17:54it's so energy intensive.
17:56Look at all these data centers
17:57coming up.
17:57It's not sustainable for AI.
18:00And I said,
18:00well,
18:01look at it in the other way.
18:03What is,
18:04you can reject AI
18:05or you can embrace AI
18:06and you can use AI
18:08for the right things.
18:09So the things that we use
18:11artificial intelligence in,
18:12for example,
18:13when we do drug development process,
18:16we can actually use
18:17artificial intelligence
18:18to help us come up
18:19with greener chemistry,
18:21shorter development time,
18:23right?
18:24A drug manufacturing process,
18:26which is part of my day job
18:27in a much energy efficient way.
18:31So net,
18:32net,
18:32you are better off.
18:34We can deliver innovative medicines
18:35to the patients earlier,
18:37more efficiently,
18:38more effectively,
18:38and generate less waste.
18:41So we are absolutely using
18:42artificial intelligence
18:43in such a way.
18:45The other thing is
18:45we are also using AI
18:47to help us with insights and data.
18:50So one in ten people
18:51around the world
18:51has some form of kidney disease.
18:54And late stage kidney disease patient
18:56ends up with dialysis.
18:59And we know
19:00dialysis is horrible
19:02for the patient,
19:03really bad for their families,
19:05and bad for the community,
19:06and it costs a lot of money.
19:08But I don't know if you know,
19:10each year,
19:11dialysis uses
19:13169 billion liters of water.
19:18I'm an engineer,
19:18so I love numbers.
19:20And it generates
19:21over 1 billion kilos of waste.
19:24So we have,
19:25we are now driving evidence
19:27and data and insights
19:28to say,
19:29to help the healthcare systems
19:31in various countries
19:33and say,
19:34the power of prevention,
19:36early diagnosis,
19:38early treatment.
19:39Because when you do that,
19:40early action
19:41on these disease,
19:43non-NCDs for example,
19:45can actually defer
19:46resource intensive
19:48and cost intensive
19:51treatments for the patients.
19:52A great example
19:53of the use case of AI.
19:55And Greg,
19:55I mean,
19:56it's integral
19:57into your technology as well.
19:59Can you tell us
19:59a little bit about
20:00how AI is helping
20:01to increase
20:03your profit margin
20:04and make your product
20:06better for customers?
20:07Yeah,
20:07let me talk about AI
20:08from two perspectives.
20:09So very briefly
20:10to answer that question,
20:11look,
20:12just in the UK,
20:13we work in 30 countries,
20:14but just in the UK,
20:16we process 300,000 rows
20:18of data every second,
20:20which is 30 times more
20:22than Visa globally
20:23for payments.
20:23And we do that
20:25because the secret
20:25to cheap clean energy today
20:27is to be able
20:29to forecast
20:30every solar panel,
20:31every wind turbine,
20:33to optimize
20:33every battery,
20:34to know
20:35when each electric vehicle
20:37is going to get home
20:38and get plugged in
20:39and how much power
20:39it's going to need.
20:40Because that way
20:41you can continually
20:42try and match
20:42the power consumption
20:43to the power generation.
20:45And that enables you
20:46to use the cheapest
20:47forms of power,
20:48the wind and solar
20:49as they're generated.
20:50And you can only do that
20:52with vast amounts of AI.
20:53But I think the other thing
20:54that, you know,
20:55the conversation
20:55that I've had a lot more
20:56this week
20:57has been about
20:58the power for AI.
21:01And,
21:01look,
21:02you were talking
21:04about American competitiveness
21:05earlier.
21:06The U.S.
21:07is,
21:08in the technology
21:09of AI,
21:11world-leading.
21:12There are some other
21:13countries doing
21:14incredible stuff.
21:16But the tech companies
21:19that want to build
21:21the huge data centers
21:22have got the opportunity
21:24here
21:24to be climate heroes
21:26and to do so
21:28in a way
21:29which is beneficial
21:30for their businesses.
21:31too often,
21:34though,
21:34the tragedy is
21:35it is feeling
21:36easier for them
21:37to slightly tweak
21:38their climate goals
21:39and pretend that gas
21:40is green.
21:41It's not.
21:43Burning gas
21:44to power data centers
21:45is climate destructive.
21:47Let's be really clear.
21:48Now,
21:49I'm a business.
21:49I understand the imperative
21:50to get out there
21:51fast ahead of your competitors.
21:52They've got the greatest
21:53amount of capital
21:54in the history
21:55of business right now
21:56to build data centers.
21:58But it's the Middle East.
21:59It's in the UAE
22:02that a company,
22:04Mazda,
22:06has announced
22:07the first 24-7
22:08firm power
22:10data center
22:11powered entirely
22:11by solar and batteries,
22:12a gigawatt,
22:13enough of the biggest
22:14and biggest data centers
22:15and at a price
22:17that's competitive
22:17with gas.
22:19And you could be doing that
22:20in the US right now
22:21in a whole bunch of states.
22:23And I think that
22:24if there's anybody here
22:25from the hyperscalers,
22:27you have to work
22:28a little bit harder
22:29but once you learn
22:31how to do this,
22:32you break free
22:33from the delays,
22:34the pain,
22:35and the cost
22:36of dealing with the utilities
22:36and actually
22:38the technology breakthroughs
22:40you can make there
22:40will enable everyone
22:42to benefit from cheap,
22:43clean power.
22:43So I think it gives us
22:44a phenomenal opportunity
22:46but it'll require people
22:48to work a little bit harder
22:49right now.
22:49But they've got the greatest
22:50amount of capital
22:51ever in history
22:52to do it.
22:53So that's my plea.
22:54Wonderful.
22:55Wally, let's close.
22:55Yeah, and I think
22:56what I would say
22:57is that you asked me
22:58a question about
22:58US innovation first
23:00and I think a place
23:01where we probably
23:02don't have an innovative edge
23:03is when it comes
23:04to clean energy technology
23:05but clearly when it comes
23:06to artificial intelligence
23:07we do.
23:08And my hope is that
23:10that edge is going
23:11to put us in a position
23:12where we can help
23:13invest some of that edge
23:14in thinking about
23:15clean energy solutions
23:16going forward.
23:17How does that technology
23:18and you mentioned one
23:19which is just efficiency.
23:21If we could make
23:22our grid just 15%
23:24more efficient
23:25which we think
23:26we can do using AI
23:27that would dramatically
23:28reduce energy use
23:30in the United States.
23:31We could use that kind
23:32of technology globally.
23:33My view is that
23:34when it comes to thinking
23:35about building
23:36these data centers
23:37one of the things
23:37we've got to do
23:38in the United States
23:39and we have to think
23:40through globally
23:40is how is our
23:42regulatory infrastructure
23:43making it possible
23:45for people to do things
23:46like build more power supply
23:49close to a data center.
23:50How do we pass something
23:52like a tech neutral
23:53permitting reform
23:54in America
23:55which will allow us
23:56to put more energy
23:57online more quickly.
23:59And my view is that
23:59if you give solar
24:01the ability to compete
24:02against gas
24:03in terms of being put online
24:04you're going to see
24:05more solar.
24:06So I think we've got
24:07to start thinking
24:08creatively about
24:09how we think about
24:10artificial intelligence
24:11being useful
24:12to reducing the cost
24:14of technology deployment
24:15but also thinking
24:17about how we power
24:18this data center boom
24:20in a way
24:21that gives us
24:22the ability
24:22to experiment
24:23in new ways
24:24of powering
24:24our entire grid
24:25not just here
24:26in the United States
24:26but around the world
24:27where these data centers
24:28are going up.
24:29So thank you for having us.
24:30Yeah, well thank you
24:31all so much
24:32for your insights
24:32your candor
24:34and the inspiring anecdotes
24:36and examples
24:37of how this plays out
24:38in your respective
24:40companies and industries.
24:42I hope that we've done
24:43our part to convince
24:44all of you
24:45that climate action
24:46and innovation
24:47does indeed
24:48offer a real
24:49material competitive edge
24:51and I look forward
24:52to continuing
24:53the conversation
24:53with all of you.
24:58So this concludes
25:01our program.
25:02We'll just finalize here.
25:04So thank you
25:04to all of our speakers
25:05for all of our sessions
25:06and for contributing
25:07to this really
25:08really important discussion
25:10and series of sessions
25:12that we've had
25:13that have really spanned
25:14the range
25:14of the inspiring comments
25:16from Sylvia Earle
25:18and really anchoring
25:19all of us
25:20in the spirit
25:21and in our hearts
25:22and in what keeps us
25:24working towards the goals
25:26that we all share
25:27but also to thank you
25:29to all of our speakers
25:30that have really
25:31brought their full selves,
25:34brought their experiences
25:35and understanding
25:37from their own company.
25:38So we're so grateful
25:39to all of you.
25:40Thank you again
25:40to all of our moderators
25:41and speakers.
25:43And of course
25:48we'd be remiss
25:49to not extend
25:50our appreciation
25:51to our partners
25:51AstraZeneca
25:52and Fortescue
25:53and of course
25:54our partner Rolex
25:55for making this evening
25:56possible.
25:57Thank you for being
25:58part of this movement,
25:59being part of this community.
26:00I know many of you
26:01have been to time events
26:02before and we look forward
26:03to convening,
26:05gathering,
26:05breaking bread
26:06and continuing
26:08the conversation
26:08over drinks outside.
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