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Some TV baddies had a point—no matter how twisted their methods! For this countdown, we're highlighting live-action villains whose perspectives may have been harsh, but not entirely wrong. From misunderstood siblings to ruthless competitors and vigilant antiheroes, these antagonists sometimes saw the truth before the heroes did. Did we miss your favorite TV antagonist? Let us know below!
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00:00Hello, boys, and oh, mm, awkward.
00:04Hey, kid, lock up when you're done, okay?
00:07Welcome to Ms. Mojo, and today, we're counting down our picks for the TV baddies who may
00:13have had a point, even if they weren't the best people.
00:16For this list, we're sticking to live-action shows only.
00:20Also, there are some spoilers ahead.
00:22Gotta make our own pile.
00:23Oh, come on.
00:25Yeah, I mean, it's what my gut is telling me, and so I gotta listen to my gut.
00:28It's all I got to go on.
00:30Jesus.
00:32Number 10, Mitchum Hunsberger, Gilmore Girls.
00:36Having your boyfriend's dad as a boss isn't all it's cracked up to be.
00:40Mitchum Hunsberger and his posh family were horrible to Rory Gilmore,
00:44but his assessment of her fortitude turned out to be true.
00:47I thought I was doing okay.
00:50I just don't think you really have the drive to put yourself out there, to be honest.
00:56To get a story, to dig.
00:57After she interns for his newspaper, he is brutally honest with her.
01:02Journalism is not the career for her.
01:04Her response to her first real taste of failure is to steal a yacht and drop out of Yale.
01:10That one looks good.
01:12Yeah.
01:13Nice and seaworthy.
01:15Not ours to take.
01:17That ever stopped you before?
01:19In the show's sequel series, A Year in the Life, Rory's career has all but floundered.
01:24It might be a chicken or the egg kind of thing, but if all it took was one bad experience for her to spin out,
01:30Hunsberger may have hit the nail on the head.
01:33I don't believe that's the first time anyone's ever said that to me.
01:35I mean, someone not sticking a ship in my back.
01:38Number 9, Lex Luthor, Smallville.
01:41Superman's arch-nemesis doesn't start out that way.
01:44In The CW's young adult rendering of the hero's beginnings, a teenage Lex Luthor befriends Clark Kent.
01:51However, Luthor becomes obsessed with finding out Kent's real identity.
01:55You never told me this woman's name.
01:58I thought you weren't interested.
02:00Maybe I'll ask her for some stock tips.
02:02Luthor's opposition to the Supers is deeper than a personal vendetta.
02:06Several events in the series do actually prove him right.
02:10Clark Kent proves that when he comes across red kryptonite, which makes him violent and twice as deadly.
02:17It doesn't really matter.
02:19I'll figure it out one way or another.
02:23Now, that doesn't make Lex the hero.
02:26It just means his paranoia is kind of understandable.
02:29What he does with it is another matter.
02:31Why did you do it?
02:36Number 8, Shane Walsh, The Walking Dead.
02:45The survivors of the zombie apocalypse were put in a pretty terrible position.
02:49For all Shane knew, he escaped the onslaught with the wife Rick left behind and fell for her.
02:55You want to know what happened with Otis?
02:58What happened with Otis happened because I love you.
03:02I love you.
03:03And I love Carl.
03:04That's what I told Rick.
03:07Once Rick rejoined his family, Shane constantly clashed with him.
03:11Good guy Rick constantly harped on about remaining civilized in an uncivilized world.
03:16Shane's attitude was more brutal and survivalist.
03:19What is it to survive?
03:21What is it to survive?
03:24Yeah.
03:27One of us wasn't going to make it out.
03:29Given some of the treacherous villains they encountered later on in the series,
03:33Shane's approach wasn't that far off.
03:35Unfortunately, his ideology also drove him to become a dangerous individual to the rest of the group.
03:40This failed MCU TV venture just didn't have the sauce and critics largely wrote it off.
03:55A lot of its failure to stick the landing had to do with how strong its villain was.
03:59Who we are today is not who we are born.
04:03We transform.
04:05An evolution that usually only happens once in our lifetimes.
04:10But change is happening today.
04:13Maximus was forsaken by the other Inhumans and his constant ostracization hardened him.
04:19It's difficult not to empathize with him.
04:21Your father is a soldier embarking on a great cause.
04:27He will literally open the gates of paradise for the rest of us.
04:32You do want him to come home safely, don't you?
04:34His desire to overthrow the hierarchical class system among his own makes a lot of sense.
04:40Sure, he's basically a dictator.
04:41But when you compare it to his family's enslavement of other Inhumans is almost a net zero.
04:46By giving him so much dimension, the show actually robs the so-called heroes of any rootability.
04:53Trust in me.
04:55I am the king of Adeline.
04:59Long live King Maximus.
05:02Number 6.
05:03Logan Roy.
05:04Succession.
05:05Almost everyone on this show is rotten.
05:08That's why we watch.
05:09Logan Roy is certainly no angel.
05:12I got feelers, I got the cuffs.
05:13It's a horse shit.
05:14Pipe tree.
05:15Everybody thinks you're a joke.
05:18The billionaire dangles inheritance of his business empire over his possible heirs like
05:23a piece of cheese in a mousetrap.
05:25His most damning criticism of his children, of which there were many, is his quietest.
05:30He loves them, but they're not serious people.
05:33You are not serious figures.
05:35I love you, but you are not serious people.
05:46It's so honest and direct that it's stunning.
05:49Their actions throughout the final season more than prove his point.
05:53Through all their backstabbing and petulance, he was correct that not a single one of them
05:58could handle being his successor.
05:59Of course, it's all his fault, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
06:05You know, you're smart, you're good, but I just don't know.
06:10What?
06:11Come on.
06:11You're not a killer.
06:20Number 5.
06:21Shane Patton, The White Lotus
06:23It was my honeymoon.
06:25Yeah, congratulations.
06:27How wonderful.
06:28Was it everything you hoped?
06:30Was he the ultimate Karen?
06:33Yes, he was.
06:34Did he have a hand in getting White Lotus hotel manager Armand killed?
06:38Well, it depends on how you look at it.
06:40But Shane Patton, immature and pig-headed as he was, did have a point.
06:44Are you finding everything to your liking?
06:46Actually, I think you put us in the wrong room.
06:48We were supposed to be in the honeymoon suite.
06:50Oh, there is no honeymoon suite.
06:53We're supposed to have a plunge pool on a private patio.
06:56Oh, well, that would be the pineapple suite, but I don't have a record of you booking that room, no.
07:05His mommy paid top dollar for a room, and he didn't get that room.
07:09And it can't be the first Armand messed up when booking a room.
07:12Shane's persistence and entitlement were incredibly annoying and at times cruel.
07:17But as much as it pains us to admit it, it all stemmed from a mix-up that genuinely was not his fault.
07:23Thank you for all the help.
07:25Of course.
07:26Number four, Sue Sylvester, Glee.
07:32She had a cruel streak and was responsible for more than her fair share of crying McKinley High students.
07:38Yes, her one-woman vendetta against the Glee Club was confusing and inconsistent.
07:43But it's her hatred of Mr. Schuster that makes a little more sense.
07:47You are a failed performer, Will.
07:49You weren't good enough to make it in the real world.
07:51You're not even good enough to run this stupid little club that nobody cares about.
07:55Mr. Shoe was not the angel he pretended to be.
07:58This is a man who led his students in performances of suggestive, downright inappropriate songs like Blurred Lines and On School Property No Less.
08:06Her crusade to get him fired was understandable.
08:19If anything, she should have been tossed out right behind him.
08:21You need to back your ass up to the fact that you, a married 37-year-old, just performed a song about coercive sexual advances as nine minors twerked alongside you down the hallways of a public high school.
08:33It's called the First Amendment, Sue.
08:35Number 3.
08:36Sandor Clegane, Game of Thrones.
08:39Many fantasy stories are about maintaining law, order, and justice in an unjust and chaotic world.
08:46Unfortunately, sometimes to survive, you have to get brutal.
08:49Brave.
08:50A dog doesn't need courage to chase off rats.
08:54Does it give you joy to scare people?
08:57No, it gives me joy to kill people.
09:00Sandor Clegane was one of Game of Thrones' most dangerous baddies.
09:04You have to earn a nickname like the Hound.
09:06Where other characters still hold on to what he considers outdated ideals, Clegane has been used and abused by the world.
09:13You won't hurt me.
09:22No, little bird, I won't hurt you.
09:25Ultimately, he gets some redemption.
09:27But even while he's at his worst, he makes some sense.
09:30The world isn't pretty.
09:32When there's even more evil people around, sometimes you need the people who are a little less evil to do the dirty work.
09:39You're the worst shit in the Seven Kingdoms!
09:43There's plenty worse than me.
09:46I just understand the way things are.
09:48How many stars they got to behead before you figure it out?
09:51Number 2.
09:52Agatha Harkness, Marvel Cinematic Universe
09:55It was Agatha all along, but she had her reasons.
09:59You have no idea how dangerous you are.
10:04You're supposed to be a myth, a being capable of spontaneous creation.
10:08Over the course of WandaVision, she goes from batty next-door neighbor to powerful villainess.
10:14She becomes hellbent on harnessing Wanda Maximoff's universe-bending powers for herself.
10:20But when it comes down to it, Agatha's use of dark magic really didn't do much.
10:24In fact, Agatha is right to be concerned about Wanda's all-powerful abilities.
10:29This is chaos magic, Wanda.
10:32And that makes you the Scarlet Witch.
10:37The Marvel movie Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness proves that the Scarlet Witch's unchecked power leads to massive amounts of destruction.
10:45This world you made will always be broken.
10:52Just like you.
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11:12Number 1. Chuck McGill
11:15Better Call Saul
11:16As with the series it spun off from, we tuned in every week to see a rascal get away with something.
11:22When that's the case, the characters who stand in opposition to the protagonist's own villainy often seem like the villains themselves.
11:30You're not a real lawyer.
11:33University of American Samoa, for Christ's sake?
11:36An online course?
11:37What a joke.
11:39Chuck McGill was annoying, to be sure.
11:41As the brother of Jimmy McGill, aka Saul Goodman, Chuck knows firsthand his sibling's true nature.
11:48A rule follower by nature, he has nothing but contempt for Jimmy's various cons.
11:53Was this man here making copies?
12:00It's like I said, I don't think so.
12:02Well, earlier you said that he was here. Now you're saying that he wasn't here. Which is it?
12:06His constant suspicion was proven true by the events of both Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad?
12:12He'll never change. He'll never change. Ever since he was nine. Always the same. Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer.
12:20But not our Jimmy. Couldn't be precious Jimmy. Stealing them blind. And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke.
12:30Which TV villains do you think actually had some points? Let us know in the comments.
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