24 Hours of Le Mans 2023 – Full Race Part 14

Name: 24 Hours of Le Mans 2023 – Full Race Part 14
Uploaded: 2025-10-09T22:22:54+00:00
Duration: 59 min 59 s
Channel: Grand Prix

00:00quite up to temperature and pressure yet that's when you really feel it so the car will bottom

00:03under braking the car will touch for the first couple of laps until you get everything up to

00:09temperature a couple of things with the number eight toyota car the pit stop infringement was

00:14not all mechanics were back behind the white line before the engine was started so again it's those

00:21tiny little bits of choreography that let you down um and that's and that's rare for for toyota

00:27that you know and that's why now we're seeing them under some pressure um and making those small

00:32mistakes which is which is you know good to see that they're under that feeling that pressure as

00:37well well i think i think for the first time with this car in the hypercar category toyota really

00:42having to extend the car to its absolute maximum which they didn't have to do with just clicking

00:48house and alpine against them last year clicking house didn't quite have the performance to really

00:53put them under the cudgels and the alpine didn't have a big enough fuel tank to be able to match

00:57them on distance on fuel even if it could match them on pace so it was always going to be hamstrung

01:03and and and that was part of the deal the other thing that happened in that number eight toyota stop

01:08was that there was four new tires for sebastian buemi the previous set had only been on for one stint

01:17so there was clearly something he didn't like about the balance of those tires

01:23alpha nine two alpha nine two for 12 lap target oh now then what for a 12 lap target that's not fuel

01:35saving that's what we were told was likely to be a bare minimum hypercar stint so now does that mean that

01:44gives him more attack because they're not going to try and fuel save and has that been what they've tried

01:50to do early in the stint and then gone okay that's not happening we're not saving enough okay right

01:55just go for him we're going to have to try and reset and do that again in the next stint ben keating

02:00staying in for a triple stint in the 33 car saying he felt pretty good about it

02:10that was 20 minutes ago doing a lot of things that the gentleman driver does not normally do

02:16man he can pedal race in the night put the car on pole with just stunning laps and he's super fit um

02:25yeah yeah he trains he trains hard and he's driving lots of different cars and you know he he trains

02:31like a pro and um he drives like a pro yes he really does and actually when we had uh when we're talking

02:40about him a little bit earlier john doona i i always let myself down because i always forget to do

02:48stat check on ben keating before every race just to make sure that i've got the correct number of

02:53dealerships because he'll always correct me and the correct number of uh different franchises that he

03:00handles john doona was saying 27 dealerships yep i mean uh and and and and that change that change

03:06across the wide spectrum of yeah pretty much at one point he was the largest uh viper dealer in the

03:13in the world and again that's when he came back to them on in the gt class with the srt10 and uh and

03:21then wins with the ford one with wins with the ford and then uh that was disallowed because of a

03:29a technicality infringement on fuel tankage so you can see buemi now closing up on the back of the

03:36ferrari with um and clado um has got a stack of gt cars ahead of him going to the porsche corners so

03:42this could get really quite exciting that does sound a little bit like he's being told to

03:48we can't go around here all afternoon yeah yeah we're not going to get the lap on fuel that we were

03:54trying to creep out so yeah time to time to get on it and and hassle the ferrari a little bit yeah

04:01press them into a mistake perhaps yeah he doesn't seem really happy with his car he's been playing

04:06around and said before with the with the roll bars and he just doesn't seem i think they maybe thought

04:11with the new tires that might fix it but he still seems to be just not quite yeah fully happy when

04:17we're not quite fully happy is it is a sort of constant at toyota but the other thing is that the

04:22racetrack is evolving all the time it's gone dry to wet and then all it takes forever to get back to

04:28dry then it went wet again forever to get back to dry and it is doing that you know we talked a little

04:32bit about the the peugeot going off because they're still wet patches so they're still adjusting the

04:37balance of the car lap by lap maybe even sector by sector to take into account the fact he'll go oh

04:44oh there was more grip there i i brake too early so now they're going to start you know harvesting a

04:49little more or they you can put a bit more front brake onto it or a bit less front brake onto it

04:54whatever to try and balance the car against the prevailing conditions Kaz Nakajima there in the back

05:01of the shot he is the team manager for toyota gazoo racing's endurance crew and kazuki Nakajima although

05:11still a driver although no longer a driver in this race because the car's been retired is the team

05:17principal well here is the race leader james collado no longer there's a change okay man so this will be

05:27your last time lap this will be your last time all right so we're getting to the end of the stint and

05:33that's what alpha 12 means it has released sebastian bwemi and as we cut to him james collado was

05:41passed for the lead of the race by the number eight toyota but you can see his replacement is in the

05:48garage so basically in that stint what bwemi did was just return the order to what it was when they made

05:57their original pit stop and they took tires and the ferrari didn't so he lost the lead so it took

06:03him a whole stint to get that lead back and remember bwemi's got a five second penalty

06:08that's right on the next pit stop they'll have to serve on this next pit stop

06:13quick in and out for the number five for schepensky motorsport 963 dane cameron remains at the wheel of

06:21that car that was fuel and go philippe leloup there on the right hand side spent a lot of time racing gt

06:28cars with uga shonak when he was running the viper program and has been uh part of his lmp2 and uh

06:38and lmp1 programs before moving full-time to toyota so much knowledge among these different teams over so

06:48many years and that's one of toyota's really big weapons in its armory is that consistency of being

06:59in this championship and racing at le mans whereas ferrari porsche cadillac the rest are relatively new

07:09okay brendan is connected to radio any advice for brendan any advice for brendan

07:18careful in the chicane don't break too late to stay on the racing line there you go there you go yeah

07:26stay on the gray stuff son don't don't get out in the don't get out in the dark stuff because uh

07:33especially in the first chicane so still even you know 45 minutes later yep it's still it's not drying

07:41there gray good green bad

07:50do you want to do one more lap that is correct that is correct stay out

07:57okay now that will have been somewhere on the way down to indianapolis probably okay let me just double

08:04check what you said he said this will be your last timed lap so you want me to do one more lap yes

08:10stay out when we're trying to build as much of a gap yeah as he can before the pit stops well because

08:17like you said he has that five second penalty

08:22trying to recognize the helmet of who was sitting in their garage but the penny didn't drop i don't

08:27think it was alessandro pierre guidi ready to take over the 51 car givinazzi i think it was i think

08:33it was antonio givinazzi mbwem is really pulled since his passing has pulled out a big chunk of time

08:38don't forget he's on tires that haven't done a stint yet whereas collados have certainly done at least

08:43two while i've been in here and may well be on their third conceivably possibly on their fourth

08:50and interesting that the last set of tires on the toyota only did a stint yeah and whether or not

08:59they had tried something with the medium and went okay that's not working we'll keep them in the locker

09:04for when it gets a little bit warmer during the day we need the softs or whether it's something else who

09:10does box the slap box the slap driver change driver change

09:23so brendan hartley will be getting into the number eight car

09:26in place of sebastian guemi and james collado will be turning over we think

09:33okay seb great job box this lap pick confirm box this lap driver change for brendan and the

09:42penalty don't forget the penalty okay well he doesn't have to forget about the penalty he's getting

09:48out of the car he's just going to hand over the penalty to brendan and actually predominantly it's

09:54the team's job to remember the penalty because the lollipop man will have to remember not to remove

09:59the lollipop that is the signal for the driver to go do they serve the penalty at the beginning of

10:04the stop or the end of the stop doesn't make any difference he's going to park the car and get out

10:08okay doesn't make any difference you'll do it at the end you'll stop the car do fuel do tires and

10:13then when you're ready to go then you sit for a further five seconds then it's clear that that's been

10:19the way it's done well it's interesting because in the states it's exactly the opposite you can't

10:24start to do anything until you've sat for five seconds because then it is certain that you

10:30yeah that you have done it well then it's then particularly it's certain for the team that you've

10:35done it and and then you're not creeping an inch here in a second there that might be a more sensible

10:42way of doing it i think i think the habitual way this side of atlantic guys that you you do the pit

10:51stop and then you serve the penalty afterwards would that be the way you'd have you'd have done it

10:56yeah yeah i think so yeah okay for the officials i can see it makes a lot of sense boom stop

11:03don't do anything tick tick tick now go yeah and each of these cars will have uh an an aco or fia

11:12official with them an aco official with them there are fia and wc officials in the pit lane as well but

11:17there will be a pit marshal with each of the cars and they report on every time the car comes in

11:23what it's done how long it was there and so on and so forth so they will be informed by their head

11:29of station five second penalty for this car make sure it's served so here they come here comes the

11:36eight car hopefully we'll stay with it long enough to find out just what's going to happen

11:41uh looks like there yep looks like they are going to serve the five seconds and then work on hard

11:48to tell because of course the fuel man comes in out of our sight from the left-hand side as the driver

11:54sees it or doesn't see it because it's behind him driver change brendan hartley gets in driver

11:58change it will be antonio giovannazzi in the 51 car

12:03now you would assume that that car will take fresh tires

12:12cleaning of mirrors cleaning of windshields cleaning of lights polishing everything inside

12:16apart from the bodywork and because of the penalty this is almost a free tire change

12:20yep time-wise for the fari but it means they don't have to super stress about it they will do it in

12:27their standard routine because if you try and slow down then you will likely make a mistake no tire

12:33change i don't think for brendan hartley of course we didn't see it but that will check how long it took

12:42when they leave the pit lane and then remember to subtract five seconds and not get over excited

12:48that they were slow in the pit lane richard westbrook leads the race for cadillac

12:51in the number two car that will be due in on the next lap all things being equal

12:58one minute 22 so including the five second pit stop i don't think that was enough time for a tire

13:04change no i don't i agree with you and out comes antonio giovannazzi one minute 22 that was a driver

13:12and well i change remember they changed bohemi's tires on the last bit stop so yeah i would have been

13:18surprised if for a second stint they took tires off after one stint there's james collardo as relaxed

13:26and smiley as i think i've ever seen him this week just loving his life in the ferrari hypercar and he

13:34said up until now it's felt like a more powerful and heavier gt car basically he said here from the

13:43first moment you got it out on track it's a totally different animal it just came alive

13:51so you know just from that comment that this is what it was bred to do the rest of it

13:58as paul newman might have said is just waiting around that's right

14:02which was it wasn't paul newman it would have been steve mcqueen it wasn't steve mcqueen might have

14:08said it but he wouldn't have used a line from somebody else's movie uh it was the steve mcqueen

14:18line his character in le mans racing is life anything before or after he's just waiting

14:25talking about paul newman newman did get to race here yes he did mcqueen did not he was desperate to

14:34race in the 1970 film but the studio would not allow it and uh paul newman somehow managed to

14:42get that one by a his wife and i'm not sure how that happened and b any studio

14:49he said she was quite supportive of the of his racing well yeah doing scca runoffs or doing doing

14:56an imsa race here or there one thing le mans with dick barber that's a whole different thing and that

15:03car finished second overall and but for a couple of changes of luck poor newman yeah might have won

15:12le mans in real life yeah changes of luck and a uh a baguette with a uh a belt a belt in it yeah

15:22the story of that is that the whittington brothers their car spat off a

15:30an alternator belt yep which of the whittingtons was in the car not dick no that's a whole different

15:38story no it was uh it was don don okay so it was bill and don whittington the brothers uh and uh yeah

15:46their 935 spat off a belt and initially sorry you didn't say bill or don don don don don tried to then

15:53fit the power steering belt which immediately broke as soon as he tried to fire up the engine

15:59so he was kind of the deal then now it's down two belts the deal was then you could be assisted

16:05from outside verbally uh but you had to fix the car with anything that was carried with

16:12only with things that were carried on board so all the tools all the parts had to be on board

16:17the car exactly so so after a while of trying to fix this and having very little luck obviously

16:22because you can't manufacture a belt at the side of the road uh the team prevailed upon the marshals

16:27to say look it's really hot and he's been driving a racing car and he needs to drink something so we've

16:32brought these bottles of water we brought him a sandwich because he's going to be here for a

16:36while so they handed him the water and the big baguette through the fence and inside one of the

16:41big baguettes was a belt and inside the other big baguette was a belt so he didn't get ham and cheese

16:46he did get two drive belts actually actually it was only one he got the belt that he needed to get the

16:52car back to the pit which was the alternator and then they changed all the belts when they got to the

16:57pit stops so it's uh yeah things happened in life the baguette that won le mans yeah and tonight paul

17:06newman a sensational story so hartley's still ahead of uh giva nazi by 12 seconds now that's quite a

17:15margin that gap is growing by by the sector so hartley's tires are stint old giva nazis are brand new

17:23okay i have to ask strangie about that particular message obviously he's a member of their crew

17:38i couldn't quite see on the picture that sort of very slightly yeah very slightly look to me like a man

17:44on a motorcycle or or or a man with a big like green bay g on his chest could it yeah it couldn't

17:53be that he's racing somewhere like the isle of man instead of being here i can't him i can't imagine

18:00that that would be a thing however see if uh see if simon strang can shed a little light on that

18:08in a bit is the battle cats ferrari this is the other one of the kessel racing cars uh and this car

18:17is oh i'm looking on uh oh no there it is uh so it's naoki yokozimo who i believe is mr battlecats or at

18:26least he is the man who is the game designer battlecats you'll know this guy because you're of uh of a much

18:34younger vintage than me and jim uh 800 million downloads yes i heard something i mean an absolutely

18:41astonishing number of downloads of that game obviously i'm going to have to go and have a

18:46look now to see what it's all about uh i think i will probably type it fairly quickly as i do most

18:52electronic things but uh yeah and that's obviously he's somehow a good ken follett novel never i never

19:00tired of but electronic things i do but that's that is the history of battlecastle that is uh that's

19:06where battlecats comes from looking on the screen at our overall leaderboard richard westbrook leading

19:12in the number two cadillac from brendan hartley who is definitely distancing himself in the number eight

19:17toyota from the 51 ferrari of antonio giovinazzi andre lotterer freshly into the number six uh porsche and

19:26i was going to talk about that a couple of minutes ago we got distracted by something else

19:30lotterer just set the fastest first sector of the race in that car about five maybe three laps

19:36ago into number two caddy and again it's a lap later into the pits than our leads duo you just saw

19:44a glimpse of the sort of double helix 100th anniversary trophy here at le mans the standard

19:53le mans 24-hour trophy that we're used to seeing with the four pillars and the big number 24 on the top

19:58i think those will also be presented to the other winners but for the outright winning car and team

20:05of the centenary le mans that unique trophy will be presented and clearly next year in the 101st

20:13anniversary it's no longer the right trophy so uh it will be once and once only and clearly at this

20:21state as well jim somebody somewhere is thinking about a design for the trophy that will be presented

20:27to whoever wins the 100th race that's right this is the 91st running of the 24 hours of le mans so in

20:37nine years time all things being equal and with the following wind we might be here to witness who wins

20:43race number 100 and that will be a fairly epic deal who won the 100th indy 500 that would have been

20:55alexander ross that was alexander rossi wasn't there i was out that was that was where i was venturing and

21:01i couldn't quite recall whether it wasn't on yep in in in the andretti motorsports yeah

21:13michael could never win it uh unfortunately even though he had he he had more than enough talent

21:20to win that race he just didn't have enough luck to win that race well indy 500 and andretti family

21:27luck is a long long saga most famous words the annapolis motor speedway trouble for mario yeah

21:37although mario did win it in 1969. amr the former northwest amr car still entered as northwest amr

21:47paul dalalana's business dalalana had to withdraw a week before the race in spa not just from spa but

21:54from the rest of the season checks time 4 22 in their garage 4 22 in the studio clock we're aligned

22:00there uh big because of overwhelming pressure of business um and again we talked about ben keating

22:07and somehow fitting in you know riding 50 miles a day on his bicycle to stay fit and running all the

22:12dealerships and traveling around the world and across the us because he doesn't just do

22:17the wc races in le mans he also does the whole imps weathertech series in two classes so you know

22:24it's it's uh yeah it's a crazy crazy schedule and he's he's probably getting up towards roger

22:34pinsky levels of of uh hard work and input there still about 30 years behind roger i was just gonna

22:43say comfortably 20 yeah comfortably 20 years well roger i think is 89 he's 89 now see i still think

22:54he's early 80s because you know he's not early 80s 89 years old and he's uh you know all the youth of a

23:03an 88 year old and all the youth of of a 50 year old still ridiculous work rate the man puts in

23:10and i really was really interested to see him in the garage knows the name of just about everybody now

23:17when you consider 86 i'm sorry businesses he'll be he'll be he just turned 86 in february so what

23:25does he have like five businesses for every year he's been alive i think so something like that

23:30yep i mean in the uk he runs a a string of of different car franchises uh i believe he is the

23:38largest car dealer in the world i think he has the more dealerships than anybody else volvo uk for

23:44instance that's a penske company wow is it really yeah you haul that's a penske company yeah i mean

23:51there are things that don't have penske above the door that's certainly still penske company yeah

23:58rob dyson was the same way rob yeah you know i can remember being out there with you you know about

24:03rob i mean we all know rob dyson yeah we were uh we were in sonoma and we were gonna go the next week

24:13to or we were in monterey going the next week to sonoma and back to back and he asked me he says

24:19what are you doing between races that's a replay of the 94 peugeot crashing about an hour ago and i

24:24said i'm just just gonna hang around and he says well i've got this uh we make manufacture airplane

24:30seats in seattle have you ever been to seattle we're gonna fly up there i'll take take you up on

24:34the jet if you want to go with us well you won't know what and where he's great i thought you're an

24:40upstate new york guy you know yeah no roger penske's everywhere roger penske's right-hand man retired

24:46about a decade ago because he couldn't keep up with the workload because he said roger would say things

24:51like oh we've got a lunch meeting with uh with denso we we need to talk to them about alternates or

24:56whatever oh right okay when are they coming in oh no we need to get on the jet yeah yeah what yeah we're

25:02going to japan we're going to tokyo for lunch okay it'll be lunch tomorrow by the time we get

25:07there or yesterday or some such but but yeah i mean and he and he was just saying and that will happen

25:14once or twice a week you'd be not across the states but across the world somewhere for a meeting

25:20because that's how he does business the old-fashioned way hand-to-hand yep face-to-face yeah absolutely

25:26yeah no zoom calls here yeah well i guess for some wolf for some while he will have had to have

25:33zoom called everybody the same as the rest of the world did but yeah he's uh this is the battle for

25:38second place in lmp2 47 car cool racing rashad degruce and louis deletran's going at it

25:47deletran's in the 41 car isn't it because you've got all these battles going on

25:51uh iron dame's sarah bovy has just sent the fastest first sector of the race for her car in

25:59second place in gtem on this current lap so now it's been a while since it's rained and that's a

26:06good thing devoutly that to be wished that it stays dry at least for another while because normally

26:11when the showers have come in this race it has produced carnage and we've lost half a dozen cars

26:16you know it's you know what slipped by us midnight halfway yes halfway it has actually midnight but

26:24halfway half an hour ago it was four o'clock central european summer time and halfway through the 24 hours

26:34and harley now is still pulling away from giva nazi it's up to 17 seconds so he's definitely got the

26:41advantage well brendan hartley particularly this season has been just a little step above in the

26:50number eight toyota has really really been driving out of his skin i agree with you i think he's and

26:58he's probably of that driving trio is probably

27:02i would dare say on the world stage probably more underrated than than the others he's very quiet i

27:10mean yeah yeah he lets his foot do the dog he does he does yeah not at all a superstar-y driver

27:18his wife and his uh little baby she's no longer a daughter her toddler daughter are here as well

27:25yeah just she stole hearts at the passage yeah all right and running around with a little

27:31hazoo flag just and i and i brendan's wife was you know i was we were talking and i says well there's

27:40no denying that child because her hair is just like his it was everywhere

27:48first met him when he was racing in two liter formula reno one of the uh armada of young red bull

27:54drivers his history with that team went up and down or with with red bull went up and down but uh

28:00that's a story for a lot of uh red bull drivers yeah but he where dreams go to die i think he then

28:06joined as much of a talent as he was then murphy prototypes yep yep that was his break into sports car

28:11racing a little small small little team but uh did a great job it was it but it was his first race

28:17year wasn't it with murphy yeah i think he was yes him mike conway yeah that's right um yeah a bunch of

28:22other guys and in fact murphy prototypes disappeared from world endurance and and from the from le mans 24

28:29hours for a few seasons but they are back we're racing yeah you were racing against them road to

28:34le mans so i and that's great because that was always such a a fun team and you know it was small

28:43never hugely funded but just got the job done in such a great spirit and and again yeah did find

28:50you know drivers who were maybe at a crossroads or or a little bit you know had been neglected or

28:56forgotten well you know karun chandok yeah produced some great drives in that team as well evening

29:02karu he apparently has dipped into the pocket for 9.99 he was he was uh he was uh he was messaging

29:10ants earlier going how come i'm not hearing you and he said well that's because i guess you haven't

29:14paid for that i'm not paying money to listen to you talk i do that every time we go to the pub

29:20apparently anthony's pockets according to karun are longer than his arms very much in an alan mc

29:28style evening alan uh so yeah so but but then he uh he was messaging earlier so and clearly he'd

29:35heard what we'd seen before uh we moved uh in to take over from the eurosport commentary commentary day

29:42yeah the part timers um and so uh he has obviously dipped in for 9.99 so actually if you are watching

29:50us overnight on eurosport or on motor trend in the usa or any of the other broadcast partners of the

29:56world endurance championship and the 24 hours of le mans if you wish to see more of this either

30:03during the course of the race and with live timing and all sorts of other extras that are on the app

30:08or at monza or at fuji or at bahrain the season finale then currently you will find the wc app to be

30:17at a bargain bucket price a tenner or in british money uh just under two pints of beer

30:26or if you go to some bars about pints and a half and certainly less than a glass of pinot grigio

30:32so uh yeah so it is uh you know for and that okay now it's for half less than half le mans but the

30:39rest of the season in fact we have just passed the midway point of the season yes we have we are now

30:4431 minutes and 40 seconds into the second half of the season in terms of a points to be earned and b

30:52well not strictly points to be earned because you don't get anything unless you finish this

30:55but in terms of hours still to be raced we've now done more than half we're over the hump by about

31:01half an hour so yeah go to the wc app and uh ten pounds i would imagine that would be close to

31:10ten dollars and ten euros most things are these days close to parity thanks to the b word that we

31:15can't talk about um and the other thing you could do is the dollar still doesn't stretch quite as far

31:22yeah nothing stretches quite as far these days everybody's pretty well aware of that it's about 12.95

31:28if you're using dollars the other thing you can do if you fancy seeing a lot more of this

31:35is again go to youtube and find the fiawec youtube channel there's an awful lot of extra content above

31:43and beyond what you see in the races and most notably is the all access programs the all access programs

31:50change format this year from four relatively short featurettes they it's become a 40 minute program

31:57very well and it is all and from a tv director that is high praise yep very well done it is all behind

32:04the scenes stuff with the teams with the drivers um there's a program from sebring the season opener

32:11there's a program for portimao race two there's a program for race three at spa and this one i spoke to

32:18uh cedric who's uh the the guy who uh produces and directs the whole thing as he was coming back off

32:24the grid and said how was that was it chaos and he said we've got enough for about a week's worth of

32:28programs already and they haven't even started the race so those guys might be part one and part two

32:34then yeah yeah well yeah i mean you know le mans the centenary lawn probably he probably does deserve a

32:39movie i'm sure there will be one or maybe two or who knows more um it's it's drive to it's drive to

32:46survive without the contrived uh drama drive to survive without will or jack essentially so yeah

32:52yeah no it's that too it is it is all fly on the wall documentary and uh it's it is a really

33:00entertaining stuff and one of the you know one of the things that we have the delight of

33:04is to is to get to know a little bit about these drivers and about the team personnel and

33:11we're able to show so little of that on tv i mean guy as a driver yourself you know how much goes on

33:18it is the tiniest tip of the iceberg that actually appears on camera and the rest of it nobody really

33:25gets to discover until you get these you know behind the scenes camera docs yeah and i think we've seen

33:32all these um these documentaries appear and and you know i'm certainly a fan because i think behind the

33:38scenes you want to know about uh you know what goes on from the engineering to the engineering meetings

33:43and the politics and you know just to get here to be at the racetrack um there's so much um effort and

33:51politics to to get into this position well you think i mean a classic example would be a driver like

33:58alex albon or or esteban ocon you know five or six years ago there had just been an also ran in the

34:04back of the grid car that nobody knew or cared about now you know the people and their families

34:09and their stories everybody's invested in them yeah and that's a huge change for non world championship

34:19potential drivers you know there's always the three or four or five or sometimes six drivers

34:25who get focused on and and get talked about a little bit and you learn a little bit more about them

34:30but it's the other two-thirds of the grid in formula one and god knows that gets some exposure

34:37that you never really get to meet and that's part of this you know again 62 cars 186 drivers

34:45some of their names i won't say jim won't say you won't say right cumulative we'll talk about them you

34:52always get to the end of race and go wow whatever happened to that car i literally don't remember even

34:59saying that car's name and yet it's been going around for 24 hours and we've been watching for

35:0624 hours so and it's the same effort they've got the same number of lord yes good lord and actually

35:13quite a lot quite often a lot more per capita because there are fewer capitas and there are fewer

35:21resources going in and so the human labor element of it is is even more extreme back with our iron dames

35:29porsche of sarah bovi this will be the last leman for the iron dames in a porsche because having

35:36started their career with ferrari they signed a deal to run lamborghini's hypercar program and as a

35:44knock-on effect also lamborghini's gt3 program so and they and they've moved back to the front on

35:50the exchange of pit stops they have indeed as we're cycling through another set of pit stops for the gtm

35:56cars scott huffiker is now the american is now in second place in the kessel racing ferrari yeah david

36:02a-regon he's just uh he's just pitted david a-regon third for air corsa the iron dames drivers have

36:08got quite a a season on their hands for instance when they were in sebring they were racing in the

36:15race as well in a lamborghini running back not running driving in on a golf cart back down to the

36:22wet paddock and then jumping into the porsche and and that obviously same track totally different car

36:27totally different behavior that can't be a bit of a mind bender either and they're doing the same in

36:32european season where they're racing the porsche in wec there's the battle for second in lmp2

36:38wow that's close that 41 is 47 yeah the cool racing uh car in with the two blue lights and louis

36:46delatraz in the wrt car 41 with the three blue lights i hadn't realized they were quite that close

36:51together that was nearly a change of position in traffic there they are down at the bottom of the

36:56screen there you go and actually you've got the cool racing uh team wrt and the inter europe all all kind

37:02of yeah right there together yeah with the decay just a few seconds ahead so it's a it's a really

37:08close battle there in lmp2 and if you want to know more about the iron dames just to put a button on that

37:13story the all access from from spa has some great bits with that team yeah it shows the camaraderie and

37:23just how close-knit that group is and and why it works so well big race for sarah bovi spa being a belgian

37:29driver um am i reading the timing screen ron ninth place porsche prince uh porsche print oh no 10th

37:36place rather a ferrari air of course miguel molina yeah has he just said the fastest first sector

37:42of anyone in the entire race on this lap i believe he has that is a purple first sector i'm not it's

37:48not that he's in the pit lane and that he's he's absolutely flying now he's down in 10th place and

37:56he's what three laps off the lead but oh boy that car's still got some speed in some respects he's got

38:05nothing to lose has he you know just he can just drive flat out and uh he's not really going for

38:11position so he can just uh really kind of uh go for it brendan hartley's going for it

38:17as well the leader of the race since the number two cadillac stopped oh that's trouble 47 that's

38:23the car that was in second place the cool racing car the third place car cool racing car that's

38:28receptor cherus he was in that battle with uh delatrans i wonder if there was oh that's a

38:37the back of the car is so he's backed it in that is porsche in isn't it

38:47oh okay but he's only got half a mile to get back to the pit lane just how much of the cars are

38:54going to leave on the racetrack in the process now when the 94 porsche crashed we heard gustavo

38:59menezes saying do you want me to stop and take the nose out of the way if we think back to seabring

39:03last year there was a slight off-track excursion for the number seven toyota josemiro lopez continued

39:10and then the nose dropped under the wheels the under train dropped under the wheels the whole

39:14nose dropped and he shot straight off at much higher speed what happens here oh he went off on the

39:22inside collected the wall and bounced to the outside so has he come all the way across the gravel trap did

39:29he go off a long way earlier than the scene of the accident yeah i think he has i think he's come across

39:34the gravel and not quite missed the end wall there and got tagged and turned here we go that's the 34

39:41car that's now up to second place that's into europos albert costa wait a minute what happened to louis

39:49delatraz because costa was closing on them so did delatraz get held up there somewhere delatraz is yeah he's

39:58third yeah so he continues and into the pits comes the very damaged cool racing car the left rear suspension

40:08is all yeah that's a long stop see the way the light comes on in the cockpit when they come into the pit

40:14lane yeah like flashing that's not the impact light is it or is that just a colored light when they come

40:24into the pit lane because if it is the g light no i think it's on both sides i think it's a car looks

40:31like it's on both sides yeah i don't think it's i don't think it's the the impact light if an impact

40:38on the car registers more than a requisite number of g then the driver is by regulation taken directly to

40:49the medical center now the fact he's managed to come into the pit lane without any outside intervention

40:54means that the car can continue even if the g light has come on and he needs to be examined because

41:01it doesn't necessarily dictate damage to the car that's going to take some time to uh it's pretty

41:08big damage both to the front and the rear of the car so he's done a job on it has yeah he really has

41:13unfortunately it does look like it got tagged on the side spun round it slapped that whole left-hand side

41:20and taken the rear off as well and this is where you see all the frangible items coming off all the

41:26wings the nose cone the crash structure on the front that's bolted on above and below all the pedal

41:33box cylinders the brake and clutch cylinders and then all the rear body work all those suspension

41:40components are designed to bend and break and separate from the car rather than tear out

41:46we don't see where he goes off now he's going off in front

41:56yeah he's he's lost it before the corner hasn't he yeah he lost it as he turned in he i thought he

42:01may have come across the gravel he didn't he lie he was on the road but he lost it a long way out

42:10so rashad degeras in the pit lane

42:18that's a really tough break for them cool racing again such a an enterprising small team

42:25talked to nick manassian when they were coming through scrutineering and whether or not maybe

42:33they had ambitions to look to run a hypercar and he said we're not ready yet we're still a small team

42:38we don't have the engineering backup we don't have the workshop backup to run a customer hypercar program

42:44yes and you know if we can grow to that size of course we'd love to but at the moment they race

42:50this car here at le mans they race in the european le mans series and in the michelin le mans cup so

42:55they've got quite a roster of drivers and and team engineers i was speaking to sam hignett um earlier

43:02on this week from jojo and he was saying that the step up to the the hypercar the amount of extra people

43:08and also the next extra amount of kit they needed to run it is significant so it's a big investment um

43:14for for any team to step up to hypercar yeah we were talking to the guys at ferrari about potential of

43:19customer hypercars and they said you know you would if it was to be decided that cars would be

43:27sold they would need to be run by ferrari yes because the sophistication and they were saying

43:34that the perception outside tends to be that these are less sophisticated cars than the lmp1 hybrids

43:42that they are easier to run he said that could not be further from the truth they may not have

43:48quite such powerful hybrid systems but as the years progress the electronics are getting more

43:54and more sophisticated and the technology level is getting higher and higher as happens in all the

44:00road cars and that you know that knock-on effect nothing stands still in especially in motorsport

44:06it continues to evolve so if there were to be a decision in marinello that

44:11uh you know the equivalent of of luigi luigi canetti in days gone by you know a favorite

44:18or or giacchiero moretti with the moment can you imagine if not and moretti were still around there

44:23would be north american cars somehow running yeah but it would require you know

44:30cliente to to run it or or full factory operation to run it but wearing you know momo or not shirts it's

44:38like yesterday's parade with the you know excellent mom winning cars i mean in in five ten years time

44:44you probably couldn't do that because you wouldn't have the resources or the people possibly to to run

44:48it or you would need an you you would need an army of people so um no you're right it's um these cars

44:53are seriously seriously um complex and you know high-end machinery and uh yeah it's uh the real real risk

45:02race cars well you know i was going to say even the the bentley that you won le mans with you cannot

45:10run that out of a you know a two-door domestic garage you just cannot you need all of the intelligence

45:18that goes with you know and this is one of the one of the problems facing historic racing to a degree

45:24that once you get past the cosworth era of formula one cosworth and turbo era and you start to get into the

45:30really sophisticated v10s and so on it's it's almost impossible to run in fact even a turbo era

45:38cars a lot of those are quite hard to run because they run on clunky old laptops for which there are

45:44no laptops left well that's i was speaking to my bentley engineer and had exactly that same problem

45:50literally went up into the attic pulled out his laptop which had all the software on a big beige dell

45:57exactly that basically had the software to run the car but without this laptop that he kind of dusted

46:03off and thankfully saved that car would be going nowhere and the problem is those electronics have you

46:08ever tried to open a 10-year-old laptop and get it to to do anything they just don't after a while they

46:17just don't do anything and there's the problem is that you know nobody has emulated windows 311 because

46:26there's not much demand for it except for running turbo era formula one cars joe bradley knows a guy

46:33in the in the uk that that's what he's he's gone around and yeah collected a lot of these old laptops

46:40do we know him bradley does but do we know him as well did he did he work on uh alms radio in the

46:47early days uh no no it's not yes no no it's not gaza it's not gaza that's the sort of thing that gaza

46:54would do yeah and that would be right in his wheelhouse cars it really that's who i thought it was when he was

47:00talking about gtm leader in the pits sarah bovi stays in the iron dames porsche again last year

47:09ferrari this year porsche next year lamborghini and just to to round out that circle as we talked

47:14about the fact that the crew were racing different cars in sebring they're racing different cars for

47:19the rest of the season as well because in aco rules racing here in the world endurance championship and

47:25also in european le mans series they're racing porsches but they will race gt3 lamborghinis next

47:31year in the aco rules regulation when we change to to gt3 and they are already racing lamborghinis in

47:39the fanatec gt series so boy they are getting some wheel hours in this year and that's why as a team they

47:49are so close they almost never don't see each other they must all at the end of the year be

47:55dying for the winter just have a few weeks where they're not living hand in glove not that they

48:01don't love each other to death because they clearly do and get on supremely well but but it's funny as

48:07a driver with teammates you is it is like a marriage i mean i remember my wife would always say to me you

48:13know i'd bring my teammates two three times a day and i'd almost speak to them more than i would my own

48:17family because you have to have that bond you have to have that relationship and um you know just you're

48:23almost second guessing what the other person's thinking and and that's what you need when you're

48:27at the racetrack and the other thing of course is that when you've been together for too long you

48:30do need time away i mean your wife must say to you as jim's does and mine certainly does when you're

48:36going to work again next exactly when you're just getting a bit too sarcastic for your own good exactly

48:41and but that's the same with teammates you know you you do need that intimacy i mean it's it's the

48:47100 trust that's that's the thing that all of those hours together give absolute trust in each

48:55other that you'll be there and you will do the job for each other and and everybody will pick up the

49:00slack and i think in in this environment when you've got two other teammates it's it's about knowing

49:05your strengths and weaknesses and their strengths and weaknesses and actually just working together i

49:10mean when when i drove together at benley you know with people like tom and dindo it's it's trying to

49:15be able to help where perhaps they are maybe not as strong and vice versa if i'm struggling in an

49:20area they'll step in right and and actually as a team you become super strong and you play to each

49:27other's strengths and help each other mitigate your weaknesses exactly and that's when it really gels

49:32yeah and again that intimacy and that trust that allows the no blame culture whereas what's the

49:39problem let's get it fixed whatever the problem is we don't care why or who or how

49:45the only thing that matters is how do we get around it how do we fix it yeah slow zone here

49:52this is scott dixon in the number three caddy

49:56zone eight is still slow zone eight is still slow we're going to pit this lap scott pit pit

50:03so that was him coming through into the entry to the porsche curves that's still clear up there for

50:09the 47 cool racing car 47 67 47 of russia to gerus and that was yet again the messages are heard in our

50:20truck and then they are recorded and played out so it normally takes around 30 to 40 seconds to pick one

50:26out of the ether and decide okay that sounds quite interesting we'll just play that in so quite often

50:32the car is in a different position when we hear it to when it was actually broadcast but scott dixon

50:37brings the number three caddy down pit lane this has had a storied race this car hasn't it

50:43in fact it's had a bit of a tough week a horror story in qualifying in fact catching fire in hyperpol and

50:50running qualifying and then a crash very early on sebastian board eight renga van der zander

50:59and scott dixon the trio renga slipping in the cadillac with two cars in the top five as well

51:05so doing a great job yeah again that you know the more cars you have in your armory the more you

51:12still have left when things start to go a bit squirrelly which is why audi so often had a three

51:17car field here it may be a sports car but they uh it it has the feel of a single seater when he slides

51:25in there it does and with the head restraints and everything else to head protection it feels very much

51:30like a single seater well again you know we're talking about perception you think okay it's a two-seat

51:34cars who's just sitting there and there's space beside him there wouldn't be if you try to get

51:38in there oh dives across the line just to make sure he was across the line before the engine fired up

51:46and not to incur a penalty and and you know still got 11 hours of day to go or 10 and a half hours a day

51:52to go and he's 11 hours and he's throwing himself around like that hopefully that crew member is a okay

51:59yeah talk about misconception uh jim will remember when uh uh uh

52:05oh he just yeah just slightly lost his balance there coming around the way i think he probably

52:09clipped his hip on the wing as he came around all right yeah and then that thing where you're

52:14trying to keep your balance and you run run stumble onto the floor once upon a time early in

52:18the in the early days of alems there was going to be a race in aruba which then didn't happen and

52:24we ended up at las vegas was that texas motor speedway it was texas motor speedway

52:31at the end of the season we were in i don't know i was in home was it texas where we were only on

52:37track in the evening because the entire track was booked for the week by the richard petty driving

52:43school so because no that would have been like that was that that was like because we were only racing

52:48in the evening so the plus there was the heat factor yeah the petty driving school was there

52:53all week and so given the opportunity i meandered down and managed to buy myself a ride a guest ride

53:01in a car where you you're driven around by a proper driver uh that was quite interesting because i thought

53:06you know we'll go around we'll do some laps they actually did a pretend race with racing off pit road

53:11and passing on the banking and racing back into the pit lane which is very entertaining and then

53:16managed to get a drive in the car and you sort of imagine that a mask car is a seat and this cavernous

53:20entity it's not you see even back then and this is 20 plus years ago sitting in a little aluminium

53:28channel with a very high wing bucket seat around i mean it felt like a single seater in the middle

53:34or in the left-hand seat of of a big stock car so it's a yeah the perception that the car is a lot

53:41bigger than it is it pervades i mean the cockpit of your bentley i can remember david grant cursing

53:47it endlessly because he's not not quite as racing height as you are it was absolutely it was barely

53:54a single-seater never mind an actual two-seater yeah no it's really it's funny every time i get into

53:59the car the the aperture for the the windscreen is so tiny it's got smaller yeah it's got really small

54:05but it but it's um but you know when you get into it it's kind of snug and it feels good and it's all

54:09comfortable you sit in the gt3 car now that's something different that's much much bigger and

54:14that does you do you do kind of get lost in that car um but uh a five second uh penalty on the next

54:22pit stop for the two car for a technical infringement so okay i don't know if it was the uh if they did

54:30that drive that uh mechanic did not clear well that was the three so something similar perhaps may

54:37well have happened on the number two car just to recap we're heading towards 11 hours remaining we've

54:48completed nearly 13 hours of the centenary lemon toyota leads currently in the number eight car and what

54:56was a growing gap over the 51 ferrari grew very quickly as the cars left the pit lane with the ferrari

55:03just in front uh through the previous stint and losing the lead on the final lap of the previous stint

55:09driver changes brendan hartley has pulled away from antonio giovannazzi but giovanna

55:14giovannazzi has sort of uh stopped that rot and closed the gap a little so it remains under 20 seconds number

55:22two cadillac in third place those are the cars on the lead lap number six penske porsche is in fourth

55:28place andre lotter having just stopped and renger van der zander we saw him take over number three

55:34cadillac a lap ago he is in fifth position with the lesser delayed of the two peugeos the 93 car

55:43a lap back from the leaders with the caddy in sixth spot and then a further lap behind them the pair of

55:49glickenhouses then the number five at penske porsche that had a crash earlier a cooling system problem

55:56delayed the 50a of course a ferrari that sat on pole position and led early on that car is now down in

56:02tenth a crash for the 94 peugeot dropped that back a crash for the 38 jota dropped that back two crashes

56:08for the number 311 action express and dropped that back various minor issues and a trip or two to the

56:16gravel number four floyd van will drop that back number seven toyota had a was the victim of a big

56:23multi-car pileup going into a slow zone and was fatally damaged in the electronics of its hybrid system

56:31and the 75 porsche penske 963 had a fuel uh an oil pump failure or or failure to proceed because of an

56:44oil pump and that car was retired on the spot uh actually expressed you in with 311 in a lap or so

56:5193'd you in on this lap and the 51 ferrari there it is and the eight is up lane yeah eight is in and

57:00fueling you can see its energy level going up they've been stopping right together mm-hmm they're on the

57:06same lap and the number two cadillac should go one lap longer in fact looking at 21 sock that should go

57:13two laps longer so the caddy is doing softly softly catchy monkey through the night time where it is

57:21starting to they are definitely in this stint trying to egg out another lap the problem with that guy

57:28is that you really really really really need to make sure you've got the extra lap because getting

57:3615 kilometers around the 16 kilometers circuit is not good enough no no they're going to work out i mean

57:44they're probably just missing out on probably overall pace i would say and they've got to just try and do

57:49something a little bit different trying to eke out that extra fuel mileage is going to help them who's the

57:55best gas saver in the indycar series well yeah exactly exactly uh scott dixon yeah well you know we

58:06again you know talking to the teams from sim work they will know who they can go to when they need to

58:14save fuel and who they absolutely can't yeah either because the driving style of that particular driver

58:22is a bit throttle brake heavy or because they can save you the fuel but they hemorrhage lap time yes

58:30and and that's the bad you know we can all drive more economically by driving slower driving more

58:36economically while not driving slower now that's a whole different thing and it's a very different skill

58:43and some driving styles will be more favorable towards it and some won't be so each of the race car

58:50engineers will know if we're going to try and save a lap or two on a few stints and try and maybe creep

58:59another you know save an entire pit stop before the end of the race then you'll know if it's possible

59:05with the car and with which driver you're most likely to have that sort of impact i do wonder if the caddy

59:13isn't in on the next lap then it could be that part of the reason they're just lacking a second

59:22a lap or so in pace is that they're trying to save themselves a minute and 25 second pit stop at the

59:28end of the race yeah they're probably probably working back now from the end of the race and saying well

59:32what can we do we can't beat them on pace so what how can we do that yeah and there there are so many

59:40different ways to go about winning this race the traditional old school group seaway that norbert

59:46singer perfected was here's the lap time we need to get us on the fuel we're allowed to the end of 24

59:55hours as efficiently as possible go

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