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00:00:00Joining me today to discuss all things Gitmo, including a wartime analysis, is retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt Meck and Mr. Wano Savin may very well be joining us.
00:00:10He is mid-mission and may be en route to join us today as well.
00:00:15All right, we're just going to launch right into it.
00:00:17Let's bring on retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt Meck.
00:00:22Hello, Matt. How are you doing?
00:00:25I'm doing well. How about yourself, sir?
00:00:27Good. It's 7 a.m. here, 7.30 in Thailand as we record this.
00:00:34And thanks for being here. I just want to get right into it.
00:00:38And again, if Juan enters the digital green room, he will be ushered in.
00:00:44And we'd love to have Juan on the show. If not, he'll be with us next month, folks.
00:00:50Presidential, I'm going to sort of set the stage here a little bit, leading to a question.
00:00:56The PEDS, P-E-A-D-S, Presidential Emergency Action Documents, were activated.
00:01:02As I've come to understand, President Trump activated the emergency powers.
00:01:07FEMA has been reorganized.
00:01:09The Department of Homeland Security, to an extent, realigned.
00:01:13While the media, of course, is screaming about distractions, President Trump pulled the trigger.
00:01:17The PEDS, the Presidential Executive Emergency Documents, were activated.
00:01:23Thus, Executive Order 13848 is enforced.
00:01:27This was never a retreat. It was an ambush by us.
00:01:31These aren't laws. They're sort of wartime kill codes.
00:01:35No Congress, no debates.
00:01:37These documents grant the president ultimate authority in a state of national emergency.
00:01:43Having some of the things, as I've researched, that authorizes our Commander-in-Chief and President under what I've just discussed is military arrests, asset seizures, tribunals, full-blown wartime response to foreign subversion.
00:02:03And throughout the auto-presidency of Joe Biden, these executive orders and PEDS and so forth were never deactivated.
00:02:13They're standing. Now they've been activated.
00:02:15So the military isn't waiting on orders.
00:02:18It's already operating under these orders.
00:02:21And this leads us to Gitmo.
00:02:23Having laid that down, I ask of you, sir, this first question.
00:02:28Gitmo has been expanded upon significantly over the years.
00:02:31As you very well know, can you describe for us the various different wings and structures that maybe that are down there in Cuba?
00:02:44Sure. You know, and before you say that, John, it's interesting.
00:02:47You know, before I go into that, when Trump had all the flag officers at Marine Corps Base Quantico, there's a clip.
00:02:56And I don't know if you saw it, where he said, essentially, I'm going to paraphrase, but he said, I'm 45, 46, and 47.
00:03:05I think maybe he was letting that audience know that we're at showtime.
00:03:12So anyway, just interesting commentary that he made sure he said to the flag officers in Quantico.
00:03:19Gitmo is interesting.
00:03:20There is kind of two sides of the base, first of all.
00:03:25There's the airfield side of the base, where you're, you know, if you're landing in there, a lot of rotator flights, they call them rotator flights, come in.
00:03:33When I was doing it, it came in from Jacksonville, Florida.
00:03:37You know, you flew from wherever to Jacksonville.
00:03:38Jacksonville took this rotator flight to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
00:03:42And you landed there, and there was a ferry that took you across to the main side of the base.
00:03:50And in the main side of the base, you have a normal support structure.
00:03:55Remember, back in the day, there was a battalion of Marines there.
00:03:58A lot of Navy surface combatants were there.
00:04:00You have a huge infrastructure of base housing, of support personnel.
00:04:09Ironically, just a little tidbit, the movie theater there is like a drive-in movie theater, but it's inside seats sitting outside because it barely ever rains in Guantanamo Bay.
00:04:19And then you've got, there's a hill that you go across from that, on the main side from that, kind of the logistics portion of the base.
00:04:28You go over a hill to the side where, remember, as you saw the photos, Camp Delta, Camp X-Ray, where a lot of, where the detainees were held back circa 2004 and so.
00:04:40And on that side of the base, there's also a maximum security prison.
00:04:44So that's kind of how it lays out.
00:04:47I mean, there's a chapel there.
00:04:48There's an officer's club there.
00:04:50There's a BOQ there.
00:04:53There's a, when we were there, there were kind of, not tins, but, you know, the kind of the ready-made temporary housing you put up that is a semi-rigid that we lived in when we were executing the mission there for processing detainees.
00:05:13So there's a, it's a full structure.
00:05:16And as you talked about, as we talked about in the show last month, media center there and construction has not stopped there.
00:05:24And I, I think it's important to note that one of the first trips Pete Hegseth took, our secretary of war, John, was to Guantanamo.
00:05:32Wow.
00:05:36You, you unpacked a lot of stuff there I've got to follow up on.
00:05:40Can you remind me what you said in the onset?
00:05:43Who was Trump's, President Trump speaking to where he acknowledged 45, what the dash represents?
00:05:48Flag officers, when I say flags, admirals and generals.
00:05:52Remember that 800 or so convened, was it a week or so ago at Marine Corps Base, Quantico, Quantico, Virginia.
00:06:00Yes.
00:06:01Yeah.
00:06:01And there's a clip and I'll, I'll send it to Sandy so she can, she can have it.
00:06:07It's where he said, I'm 45, 46 and 47.
00:06:11Thank you for sharing that.
00:06:13You know, somehow that one slipped past my radar.
00:06:16That's extraordinary.
00:06:17And you're right.
00:06:18You, you indicated that sort of as a signal that it is go time.
00:06:21No question about it.
00:06:23Also, you just, just casually mentioned you when you were down at Gitmo on mission process, processing detainees.
00:06:32Of course, I know there's certain things you, in all the questions I'll be asking today that you can reveal and cannot reveal.
00:06:38Certainly whatever you can, please share with us.
00:06:39What type of detainees were they, what were they being processed for and when was this?
00:06:462004.
00:06:47It was right after the Hamdi decision.
00:06:49Supreme Court laid down the Hamdi decision.
00:06:51That was in June, I think, June or July of 2004.
00:06:56Right after that, the U.S. government said, we have to establish a process to determine,
00:07:03are the folks they currently had down in Guantanamo Bay, Gitmo, where they properly classified as enemy combatants.
00:07:13So we got down there right July of 2004, an ad hoc group of people, and started putting together that process to run the detainees through a,
00:07:32a, it wasn't a tribunal, per se, like, that we know was going to be happening there.
00:07:38It was a review process to determine where these detainees properly classified as enemy combatants.
00:07:46And, John, and I've said this many times as I lived there, lived there half a year, hard to believe it's 21 years ago,
00:07:55is, honest to God, probably 80% of the people down there, I call them the dolphins and the tuna nets, right?
00:08:05They weren't bad people.
00:08:07They weren't hell-bent on killing Western civilization and so forth.
00:08:10A lot of them were young kids, 17 years of age, 16 years of age, whose village elders said, go fight and go defend our clan,
00:08:20our property, our province, whatever.
00:08:23But there was that 20%, John, that were evil, that were, it's kind of like the Pareto principle, right?
00:08:3120% of the people caused 80% of the problems.
00:08:3520% were pure evil.
00:08:38Osama bin Laden's driver, Sheikh Khalid was down there, and some others.
00:08:43And those folks truly hated our way of life, Western civilization.
00:08:50And I would try to define it as, they weren't, it wasn't Islam, it was Islamists,
00:08:58those who thought that Sharia law should trump everything else.
00:09:03Because I had great friends, I made, they were translators.
00:09:08Many were Islamic Muslims.
00:09:11They were not hell-bent on taking over the world.
00:09:14But that 20% of the people that were at Gitmo, yeah, they were.
00:09:18They were evil people.
00:09:21Thank goodness they're down there.
00:09:23Now, to that point, are they still there?
00:09:25What happens to these people?
00:09:27What has happened from that massive influx during George W. Bush's term when Gitmo got heavily populated?
00:09:33Are those folks still there?
00:09:36What's going on?
00:09:37No, I think most of, maybe Khalid might still be in the maximum security prison,
00:09:42but some, John, under Obama were sent to Bermuda to open up a store, right?
00:09:48Some, some were properly classified as enemy combatants,
00:09:54but I think they were sent back to their countries.
00:09:58Some that we sent back, you know, Obama traded for the deserter,
00:10:07Burdahl, whatever his name was, who deserted out of Afghanistan.
00:10:10And some, to be honest, where I, a lot of people go like this when I say this.
00:10:20I said, I don't always trust my government, right?
00:10:24I love my country.
00:10:24I don't always trust my government.
00:10:26They go, how do you say that?
00:10:26You were in the military.
00:10:27I said, because I've seen it.
00:10:28I've seen it up close and personal.
00:10:29The reason I say that is, yeah, the people that we put through the process
00:10:34and said were or were not enemy combatants in the review process's opinion,
00:10:41that was acknowledged and adhered to.
00:10:45But some of those people, John, before we could even get to put them through the process,
00:10:50were flown out in the dark of night to God knows where by our own government.
00:10:55And that was under the Bush administration.
00:10:58Yeah, well, I voted for the lesser of the two evils at that time, that being Bush.
00:11:03Thank goodness those days are gone.
00:11:06And President Donald Trump certainly got my vote all three times.
00:11:10I want to, thanks for sharing all this information.
00:11:13Probably not heard anywhere else, really.
00:11:17You, on the subject of, let me ask you this.
00:11:22Differentiate, if you will, what goes on in the, at Gitmo,
00:11:26the investigative versus the prosecutorial tribunals, investigation and prosecution.
00:11:36How does that work?
00:11:37Is that ongoing?
00:11:38And when was the last time you were down in Gitmo, just out of sheer curiosity?
00:11:47Officially, the last time I was down there was the end of 2004.
00:11:50Or unofficially, I can't tell you, but officially, end of 2004.
00:11:56But, the, and I tell you, God bless America.
00:12:04Because even to our most ruthless enemies, we, honest to God, try to adhere to a due process procedure.
00:12:11And I would say, the review process was not a military tribunal.
00:12:18So, it wasn't as, it wasn't full of, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm going to get this wrong,
00:12:25but of the legalities and the structure and the formats of a defense counsel and a prosecutor.
00:12:33A prosecutor, what you had for our process was you had a detainee and you had a representative
00:12:40for that detainee who, that detainee would have three visits with that representative
00:12:48to try to understand the information that we had on that person, what that person had to say,
00:12:56and then that person with their representative, and this representative was always a military person,
00:13:04could not be an intel officer, could not be a JAG officer.
00:13:08They would be there and try to assist them in talking to the review panel.
00:13:16And when I initially got down there, I was on a review panel until I became the chief of staff forward
00:13:21down there in Guantanamo for this process.
00:13:24And then all the evidence would be presented.
00:13:30We could ask the detainee questions, the representative, kind of like an advocate,
00:13:37not a counsel, not a defense counsel, but an advocate for the detainee,
00:13:41trying to make sure that detainee was given a fair and due process and not railroad it.
00:13:49And then once that review panel, and that could go a couple hours,
00:13:55and you had one-way mirrors in the back so that NGOs and the media could be watching.
00:14:03We made it very transparent that we would go back and adjudicate amongst ourselves what did we think.
00:14:13And on that panel, there was an 05, a lieutenant colonel or a commander in the Navy.
00:14:18There was an 06, a colonel, who could not be a JAG or intel officer.
00:14:24The other person, like on the panel, which I was one, could not be a JAG or intel officer.
00:14:29And then the third person on the panel, the review panel, had to be a judge advocate general.
00:14:35Could be whatever service, but had to be a JAG.
00:14:38And we would weigh the evidence that the government gave us saying,
00:14:43yes, this person is an enemy combatant for these reasons.
00:14:47We would go through that and determine independently were they or were they not properly classified as an enemy combatant
00:14:57based on the definition the government gave.
00:14:59I'd say probably when I was down there, we had 535 people.
00:15:04I'd say probably we said, I'd say 20 to 30 percent were not properly classified in our estimation as enemy combatants,
00:15:13meaning they were young kids.
00:15:19Elders said, hey, just defend the clan, defend the family.
00:15:25And to our credit, the government listened to our rulings.
00:15:33And then from that point forward, it got them out of there as not detainees.
00:15:41The difference between that and a tribunal, John, is a tribunal is an actual legal process.
00:15:49It's a military legal process.
00:15:51And we saw those in World War II, end of World War II and so forth.
00:15:56And you have a prosecutor.
00:16:00You have a defense counsel.
00:16:02You have somebody who is, no kidding, a lawyer.
00:16:05Could be a JAG.
00:16:06Could be a civilian.
00:16:07Could be both.
00:16:08And you are, I'd say, more rigorous in this process because that process could result in death to somebody
00:16:19if they are guilty of what the tribunal is saying they are guilty of.
00:16:24And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and those folks have been through that.
00:16:28And you see a lot of issues with the CIA interrogation stuff.
00:16:31And you can't admit that evidence because it was gotten under duress and so forth.
00:16:35So it's more legalese than the review panel.
00:16:40Interesting.
00:16:41So just for clarification purposes for me and perhaps our audience,
00:16:47these individuals that you're describing of the 535,
00:16:52you say in some cases they have legal counsel.
00:16:57So that could be a civilian lawyer that has been trafficked over to Gitmo to represent them.
00:17:05Is that part of what happened?
00:17:07If they were going to a tribunal, if they were going to, not just the review process,
00:17:13but if for some reason they then were classified as an enemy combatant by the panel,
00:17:18the process that we had, which was, again, ORDEC,
00:17:22it was Organization for the Administrative Review for the Detention of Enemy Combatants.
00:17:27If they were classified as that and then deemed that they had to go through a tribunal,
00:17:32then they would be given counsel, defense counsel.
00:17:36They could get their own.
00:17:37They could, if they didn't, kind of like in our civilian system,
00:17:42the military would assign a defense counsel to them so they're not out there on their own.
00:17:49Gotcha.
00:17:50So the summary here in layman's terms is due process,
00:17:55although a little bit different from civilian, definitely takes place down in Gitmo.
00:17:59We're not doing Banana Republic deals behind closed doors, so to speak.
00:18:05Fair statement?
00:18:07Correct.
00:18:08Correct.
00:18:08You know, and I would say my opinion where things broke down was in the interrogation stuff
00:18:16when they were interrogating these folks and you had the military and the CIA
00:18:20and the military wasn't sure to have to take an order from a CIA officer,
00:18:24the MI chain of command.
00:18:25That's where you had a lot of, when you saw the breakdown,
00:18:28that's where you saw the issues in the interrogation process and what happened.
00:18:33But once it got into our purview, and I know in the tribunal process, again,
00:18:41to a credit to our military and our country and our constitution, these people,
00:18:47even though they might be wicked and evil, we were giving them due process and medical care
00:18:53and making sure they knew which way to pray, giving them time to pray,
00:18:57actually giving them literacy training so they could write letters home if they were.
00:19:02Some of them were illiterate.
00:19:03Mostly the folks from Yemen were illiterate, and we actually were teaching them to read.
00:19:08Wow. My producer's just alerted me that Juan's been tapping in and out, trying to get in.
00:19:15So if he's got stable connectivity, let's bring him in.
00:19:19If he doesn't, we'll just have to abort for now.
00:19:22So Juan folks may be joining Matt in this discussion, incredible discussion.
00:19:28Go ahead, Matt. Something you want to say there?
00:19:30Oh, he just said, Juan said, the V-Mix isn't letting me on long enough with my low signal strength.
00:19:36Okay. Just let Juan know, please.
00:19:38If he gets grounded somewhere, we'll bring him in.
00:19:40I'd rather not bring him in and have all that intermittent Wi-Fi.
00:19:44It'll stress him out, and it'll certainly stress our audience out
00:19:47because they'll be on cliffhangers waiting to understand what they can't hear.
00:19:50So, but we greatly appreciate Juan's making the effort to get in here,
00:19:56and hopefully we'll get Juan in.
00:19:59I want to follow up here.
00:20:01You mentioned Barack Obama under his term,
00:20:06letting some of these folks go off and open up shops in Bermuda or whatever the case may be,
00:20:10and I get the point.
00:20:11President Donald Trump is not mincing words in press conferences to the media,
00:20:21in social media directly from him.
00:20:26All roads do lead to Hillary and Obama,
00:20:29and what do you see happening?
00:20:35I know it's a loaded up question, and go where you can and where you choose to,
00:20:38but if Barack Obama gets indicted and goes through the process on the civilian side,
00:20:45it would seem to me, as the layman here,
00:20:48that a person at that level shouldn't be processed in the district courts of whatever state.
00:20:57That should eventually end up in Gitmo.
00:20:59Am I right or wrong?
00:21:03I would think you're right.
00:21:04You know, and Trump, certainly a month ago or so,
00:21:09I mean, he was saying how all roads, all signals point to Obama,
00:21:13Obama's signature, Obama signed off and stuff.
00:21:16And I'll posit a theory that if your audience is familiar with,
00:21:20Professor Clements does great work on election integrity in our country,
00:21:26a lawyer who was a DA previously.
00:21:28Previously, he's one of the leaders in the election integrity movement in our country.
00:21:35And he, John, he had a great, he's called the Professor's Record of folks who never watches.
00:21:42I think it's on Substack, the Professor's Record.
00:21:45And about a week or two ago, he had a great episode where he postulates
00:21:50that he thinks the Insurrection Act was invoked by Trump on 1 April of 2020.
00:21:57And something I didn't know, and again, he's a constitutional lawyer as well.
00:22:01He was a prosecutor, the defense counsel before.
00:22:05He said, interestingly, the president doesn't have to make public
00:22:09that he has invoked the Insurrection Act.
00:22:14But he believes 1 April of 2020, President Trump did so.
00:22:18Wow. That's news, you know, again, something that had not come across my plate.
00:22:25Very interesting.
00:22:26Let me connect them to some names that I know our audience would like me to comment on.
00:22:33So here we go.
00:22:34We've got activity as anticipated, picking up now that we have a new administration
00:22:40with Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi and Pete Hegseth and so forth.
00:22:45So activity, as we all anticipated, is picking up with the indictments.
00:22:50We've got James Comey, Bob Mueller, John Bolton, 18 felony charges here potentially.
00:22:56Letitia James going down the totem pole a little bit.
00:22:59And the drums seem to be, again, as I just mentioned, beating louder and louder,
00:23:04echoing the sounds of Hillary, Barack, Hillary, Barack.
00:23:09Having said that, we have the official declaration now also of Antifa as a terrorist organization,
00:23:18along with the list of individuals and entities, including Big Mike, for those newly coming aboard,
00:23:24also known as Michelle Obama.
00:23:26These individuals are on the list.
00:23:28They're on the list of people.
00:23:33These are some of the individuals that are on the list that's been released that have funded Antifa.
00:23:38So they're going to be in trouble.
00:23:40So while the process has begun in the civilian sector, as I just outlined,
00:23:45and these cases progress, sort of the same question I asked a moment ago, but a little bit more encompassing.
00:23:50Is it the military that will make, if and when arrests have to take place, will these individuals,
00:23:57these names I just mentioned, and a plethora of others that are coming,
00:24:01will it be the military that arrests them, or will it be the local police?
00:24:08And what determines if and when these cases are, in fact, moved over to Guantanamo Bay?
00:24:14You know, John, I think, again, I'm going to cite Professor David Clements.
00:24:23He said what the amount of work we have to do and how the courts work, the Article III courts,
00:24:29Article III of the Constitution, you can't process at scale in the time you need to
00:24:35and have the results you need.
00:24:38And that's why he thinks, one of the reasons he thinks,
00:24:41where you're seeing a lot of the JAG officers are coming into the immigration support role,
00:24:49they're just being put into a place where they are now readily available to bifurcate some of these cases
00:24:58where Professor Clements would postulate some will be prosecuted under Article III courts,
00:25:05some, as Chris Miller and Cash Patel said on Sean Hannity's show three years ago now,
00:25:14that we don't get through this except for non-Article III courts.
00:25:18Both Cash and Chris Miller, the former acting defense head, were shaking their heads, yes.
00:25:25Sean Hannity didn't seem to understand the importance of what Cash was saying.
00:25:29But I think the higher up you go and that level of authority and responsibility
00:25:38and the special trust and confidence you had as those leaders of our government,
00:25:44my opinion, those folks you'll see in that military side slash Gitmo,
00:25:51and maybe the lower hanging fruit will be processed in the Article III courts
00:25:58because there'll be a handful of those.
00:26:02There'll be many more that need to be done at scale in the military side.
00:26:08And we proved in Gitmo in 2004 we can process people at scale on the military side.
00:26:15Wow. When you say at scale, of course, what comes to my mind is the estimated 500,000 to a million
00:26:22sealed and unsealed indictments that Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes has referenced quite often.
00:26:28That's a lot of activity.
00:26:30So it seems like there is a plan in place.
00:26:35Article III, what does that mean and how is that different?
00:26:39Article III?
00:26:41Article III, if you look at the Constitution, that's the judiciary.
00:26:44Right? That's the civilian judiciary part of our government.
00:26:49Non-Article III courts are what we saw most people recognize from the Nuremberg trials, right?
00:26:56After World War II, the trials of the military implemented in formerly Imperial Japan.
00:27:02Those are courts, recognized courts, where the civilian side has no involvement in as far as overseeing,
00:27:10and the military has sole jurisdiction over there.
00:27:14So Article III would be what we're used to seeing in our day-to-day lives.
00:27:20The judiciary as we know it, non-Article III, would be military tribunals.
00:27:26Thank you very much.
00:27:28Important clarification for everybody.
00:27:30Also, you mentioned Guantanamo Bay.
00:27:33I had some questions lined up later, but I'm going to go there right now.
00:27:38Sorry, you mentioned Nuremberg.
00:27:39The Nuremberg trials is what I was – I stand corrected.
00:27:42On the Nuremberg trials, as I see it, and stating my opinion and asking a question,
00:27:49it seems to me the crimes against humanity that is becoming factually evident by the medical community,
00:27:59by the president's administration, RFK Jr., and so forth,
00:28:02people like Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci, and a whole list of others.
00:28:09You might want to call them low-hanging fruit underneath the big names.
00:28:12There's a lot of them.
00:28:14And I know that Vladimir Putin wants his hands on these people,
00:28:18international courts, and others.
00:28:22Do you think that we will have Nuremberg-style trials here at home
00:28:26for the damage that has been done, these crimes against humanity,
00:28:30once it goes through due process, of course, in the civilian or in the military,
00:28:34ultimately, do you think we will have Nuremberg-style trials
00:28:39to handle that gargantuan issue of the biological weapon
00:28:45that has killed millions and millions and millions of people?
00:28:50John, I think we will, and I would link that all into the grand conspiracy.
00:28:57And the viewers might know this, but the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida
00:29:04is overseeing a grand jury in Panama, an investigation of the grand conspiracy.
00:29:10That's going to, not in D.C., it's happening in Florida.
00:29:13And I think what you just said has to happen because, and I'll use the word,
00:29:24I used it just on the show that I co-host, just before this one that came on,
00:29:30Patrick Byrne was our guest, and he said,
00:29:31much like Trump, that bullet just missed his ear by that much.
00:29:36He goes, it's almost symbolic in that our republic, a little deeper,
00:29:41got a bit of a cheek flesh wound from this coup d'etat,
00:29:45this conspiracy that was effectuated upon our constitutional republic.
00:29:50So my belief, and others that I respect greatly, I know Juan thinks the same thing,
00:29:58is that if people aren't held accountable through process procedure,
00:30:05but held accountable, this will happen again,
00:30:09and this can never happen again in our country.
00:30:12I mean, look at how lucky we were.
00:30:14I mean, literally, I can tell you, without saying anything that I can't,
00:30:22we made sure 2024 wasn't stolen again with 14 hours to spare.
00:30:31That's how close it was, 14 hours to spare.
00:30:34And Patrick Byrne can tell you more about that.
00:30:37I know you get him on another one of the shows.
00:30:39He'll give you a much more elaborate discussion.
00:30:41But honest to God, we had about 14 hours.
00:30:45We kept this republic from being stolen again, an election being stolen again.
00:30:51Well, thank God and thank folks like yourselves and others that prevented that.
00:30:5614 hours, that's the skin of our teeth, man.
00:30:59That's unbelievable because as we go down, so does the rest of the world.
00:31:03But here we are.
00:31:04We have our duly elected commander-in-chief, 45-47,
00:31:10and, you know, there's the expression taking no prisoners.
00:31:13Actually, we're taking prisoners now, and it's a wonderful thing.
00:31:16And also taking no prisoners as more than – let me ask this question just straight up.
00:31:24You know, our audience well knows that the Constitution states
00:31:29the punishment for treason can be execution.
00:31:38Some say a lot of executions have already taken place.
00:31:41This permeates throughout the podcast world for years now.
00:31:45You get these long lists of people.
00:31:47I won't start dropping names, but they go from Hollywood to religion,
00:31:53to NGOs, to a lot of political figures, namely.
00:31:56It's a very big ones.
00:31:57I'm not going to go there very overtly right now, sort of dance around it,
00:32:01but we'll get the point across for whatever you can share with us.
00:32:06You know, we like to deliver on the broadcast that I do with military
00:32:10and intelligence folks like you and Juan and many others.
00:32:13We just want to bring the facts that your level of access can provide
00:32:19to the American people and those listening around the world.
00:32:24So I'm tiptoeing around here a bit, but having said that,
00:32:29would you – we'll start this way.
00:32:30Would you agree that there have been some executions
00:32:33and ongoing tribunals taking place over these years?
00:32:41It seems to be – and at Gitmo, at least reported through other channels.
00:32:47What's your view of that?
00:32:50I don't know firsthand.
00:32:52Honest to God, I don't know if there's been executions.
00:32:57I know support structures have been in place for tribunals.
00:33:01People that I know, that Juan knows, before they signed NDAs to get involved with that,
00:33:09they've gone off the grid.
00:33:10They've been unable to be in contact with.
00:33:12So I think something is happening.
00:33:15I can't tell you unequivocally what is happening,
00:33:19but if you look at pattern recognition, something is different going on.
00:33:22So I do think this effort has been going on for a while,
00:33:28and I think Trump is putting the pieces in place
00:33:34that allow you to get to where we need to get to at the end.
00:33:39But as far as any executions taking place yet, I, honestly to God, don't know.
00:33:45Understood.
00:33:46Thank you, Matt.
00:33:46And I would just feedback on that.
00:33:51Perhaps, and we discussed the emergency alert
00:33:54or emergency broadcast system in the last episode
00:33:56with retired Brigadier General Blaine Holt, yourself, and Wano Savin,
00:34:01and the consensus was a high probability
00:34:04that the EBS will more than likely be activated,
00:34:07whether it's all-encompassing or situational, so forth.
00:34:11We've covered that.
00:34:11So my comment and feedback to the potential actions
00:34:16that have been taken as a result of tribunals, namely executions,
00:34:21would perhaps when the EBS gets activated
00:34:26and disclosure comes from Gitmo,
00:34:29either through the EBS and or as the media center gets fired up,
00:34:33which we're going to talk about as we conclude the show later,
00:34:36perhaps if these things took place already, some of them,
00:34:41they may be shown to us.
00:34:42Would that be a fair statement?
00:34:44Shown to us in some degree that we're able to deliver the truth to the American people?
00:34:50I would say so, because we were actually talking with folks earlier today
00:34:55when we talked about the elections or the masks
00:35:00or the fraud of the COVID hoax.
00:35:05Not that people weren't damaged by it,
00:35:09but how it started, why it started,
00:35:12is that you can tell people sometimes until you blew in the face.
00:35:15We know this.
00:35:16When we were kids, you're raising kids.
00:35:19You tell them, don't do this, don't do that.
00:35:21Sometimes until you experience it, until you see it, until you do it,
00:35:25until you go through it, you don't learn it fully.
00:35:28So I do think that would probably be made known and shown to people
00:35:34so you're not just hearing it from podcasters.
00:35:37You're actually beginning to see things for yourself.
00:35:43Well, thank you.
00:35:44Let me go real simple, step-by-step layman question here.
00:35:49And the reason I'm doing this to our audience is because these types of questions,
00:35:54with someone with the expertise that retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt Metcass
00:35:58and others we've had on this program and will in the future,
00:36:02these gentlemen have answers.
00:36:05And if they don't have an answer, they're not going to make something up.
00:36:08So let me ask you a question.
00:36:12When someone is, when it's determined that an individual here on the homeland
00:36:17is going to be transported over to be processed at Gitmo,
00:36:21an investigational, prosecutorial, now they're over there
00:36:24and they're experiencing, they've been deemed to be the subject of a tribunal.
00:36:30You touched on this a little bit before, but take it slow, break it down.
00:36:34If you know, what is this step?
00:36:36So here's a person, they're brought in, yeah, they're brought in,
00:36:42and they're, what happens, because I'm told, Mike Jaco, you know,
00:36:47I think SEAL Team 6, right, and retired CIA,
00:36:56he said that the tribunals go very quickly as opposed to things that get tied up
00:37:00for years in courts, which are controlled and bought and paid for
00:37:04by the previous administrations, which we're also cleaning out.
00:37:08But my question is, what is the step-by-step process?
00:37:12An individual arrives, it is determined, they're waking up that morning
00:37:15and their tribunal begins.
00:37:17What goes on from that point to adjudication of punishment?
00:37:25Well, some I'll conjecture and some I'll acknowledge.
00:37:31First off, probably what you're going to see is suspension of habeas corpus,
00:37:36and people think, oh, my God, it's got to be an all-or-none response.
00:37:39No, no, no, look back to the Civil War and other times in our history,
00:37:43the president can surgically use habeas corpus and do it for a group of people,
00:37:51do it for a section of the country.
00:37:52It's not an all-or-none response.
00:37:54So I think you're going to see, again, my opinion,
00:37:58folks apprehended or taken into custody at that level
00:38:03with the suspension of habeas corpus.
00:38:06And then probably going to be in some facility here stateside first
00:38:13before they go to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba,
00:38:18likely fly down on some flight from a base here in CONUS,
00:38:23continental United States, down to Guantanamo.
00:38:26So then you are going to be assigned a defense counsel if you don't have one.
00:38:33You can hire your own attorney to represent you instead
00:38:37or as long as they're also allowed to practice in a military tribunal.
00:38:43Most of those are retired JAGs who now do defense counsel and stuff.
00:38:48So they can do that.
00:38:49They can have a military lawyer.
00:38:50They can have a combination of both.
00:38:52So they'll have to understand the charges filed or levered against them.
00:38:59And then you'll have something akin to an Article 32 hearing,
00:39:07which is essentially having you in,
00:39:09kind of like you go in front of a magistrate judge
00:39:11and telling you what you're presumed to be guilty of,
00:39:14what you're accused to be guilty of.
00:39:16And then you are going to have a trial date set.
00:39:20And then, you know, it's a panel at that level.
00:39:22It's typically a panel of judges.
00:39:26And it is quick judgment.
00:39:28It's not a – you don't have a lot of the technicalities
00:39:31and you don't have a lot of the protections that you have in the civil –
00:39:36our civil legal structure.
00:39:38It doesn't exist there.
00:39:40And I think Mike Jaco is right.
00:39:44It's going to go very quickly.
00:39:47And the part I don't know for sure is that you're judged guilty there.
00:39:52I'm not sure of an appeal process at a tribunal.
00:39:57I don't think there is one.
00:39:58I doubt there's one.
00:40:00But I would say something that, as you know,
00:40:03could take years to adjudicate going through a trial at this structure,
00:40:09just even getting ready.
00:40:10Because what's going to happen in the civilian side, defense will put motions
00:40:14to deny, delay, get discovery, get this, and they'll push it off and push it off.
00:40:18What's a good defense attorney want to do?
00:40:20Deny, delay, degrade.
00:40:22Deny, delay, degrade.
00:40:23You don't have that in the military.
00:40:26It is a much more crisp, crisp process.
00:40:32And I would submit at that level, at that level of people
00:40:37and the seriousness of the charges levied,
00:40:41you're not going to have some DA throwing a ham sandwich at a wall
00:40:46to get an indictment.
00:40:47It is going to be pretty rock-solid evidence that is going to be hard to refute.
00:40:53Very encouraging.
00:40:56To let everybody know, Juan 07, we think we've got a good feed.
00:41:01We'll be joining us right now.
00:41:03Not sure where he is.
00:41:04Juan 07.
00:41:05Can you hear me?
00:41:10Let's see.
00:41:11You sound very far away.
00:41:22I think he's at every 51.
00:41:25We've got visual on you, Juan.
00:41:28And we've got audio.
00:41:29All right.
00:41:31You're not getting abducted by any aliens.
00:41:33We're happy.
00:41:37Go ahead, Juan.
00:41:38Do you have the audio for me or not?
00:41:40I can't tell from here if you've got audio.
00:41:42Yes.
00:41:44Oh, good.
00:41:45Okay.
00:41:45Well, I should have hours, but I won't.
00:41:52Let me just dive in real quick and say a couple quick things.
00:41:56I appreciate you guys starting out without me.
00:41:59A lot of the public that we're talking to is totally unfamiliar with what a tribunal-like setting is going to be.
00:42:13And so I think that it's time to familiarize folks with the idea that you're not with these kinds of charges that may be coming very shortly.
00:42:26These people aren't getting out, you know, on bail.
00:42:32They're not getting out on appeal after they're convicted.
00:42:36And if there's any appeal in the process, it's very, very, very difficult for sentencing and things like that to the point of almost nonexistence.
00:42:53So those people that get arrested and sent to Gitmo aren't a real, real son of a gun.
00:42:59And Gitmo is set up to deal with nation-state-level crimes against America and against other countries.
00:43:11So it's not like somebody stole the cookies off the shelf or just broke a door in and got a few things and ran off with them.
00:43:25This is life and death stuff.
00:43:27If all these charges are going to be with whether or not the countries were able to function at all or not.
00:43:33So anyway, do you hear me yet?
00:43:36Have I got you there, John?
00:43:38We got you loud and clear, Juan.
00:43:40Thanks for that contribution.
00:43:41Okay, good.
00:43:42Thanks for being here.
00:43:44Yeah, we've had a great conversation, Matt and I, covering a lot of issues concerning processing Gitmo, which leads me to this question.
00:43:51We'll start with Juan and then we'll have Matt chime in as well.
00:43:54Do you know of any that you can comment on?
00:43:56Any recent tribunal history, including terrorists?
00:44:02Anything that's been going on that you can share with us in any way, shape or form?
00:44:08Well, of course, the 9-11 trials, and they did drag on, and there's all sorts of issues there.
00:44:15The one that I remember personally that I think is closer to what we're talking about is the Calley case,
00:44:27where back in the Vietnam War, Lieutenant Calley was accused of a situation where there were civilians that were killed in a village
00:44:39and not controlling his men or himself, and so that was a tribunal.
00:44:45You know, this is going to be something that has not happened since Nuremberg, really, if you get right down to it.
00:44:56And you're going to have people that were otherwise civilians who are going to be tried in a military setting.
00:45:04If you remember, one of the justices that was being screened by Congress before he could become a nominee for justice on the Supreme Court.
00:45:21And in that screening, there was questions about whether or not civilians could be tried in military courts.
00:45:35And he answered yes.
00:45:38Well, why was that question asked?
00:45:41That was during the first term for Trump.
00:45:45And because of exactly what we're now facing was in play.
00:45:51We're going to have people get arrested, not for just having some top-secret materials like with Bolton,
00:45:59or even lying, as with Comey with the current charges,
00:46:05but for far, far, far more serious things that amount to treason,
00:46:13involvement in terroristic acts,
00:46:15usurping the will of the voters by putting people into office violating the vote,
00:46:24which is an act of war,
00:46:26and colluding with other countries to bring that to pass.
00:46:31Those charges are going to be epic,
00:46:34and there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be charged with them.
00:46:37And then bear in mind, I mentioned it the other day when we did the show, John,
00:46:42but Gitmo had the harbor.
00:46:46The harbor was built out at Gitmo with moorings that are extremely sturdy,
00:46:53able to handle a Cat 7 storm, not just a Cat 5, Cat 7.
00:46:58For the FEMA ships, these ships that would go to a place and assist after a disaster that we have
00:47:06around the borders of the country here,
00:47:10those ships can all be taken to Gitmo and sunk in place,
00:47:16and you could have an additional 25,000 on the high-end people at Gitmo,
00:47:27you know, there to go through the trial process for various things if that was desired.
00:47:36And, by the way, it's not just Gitmo either.
00:47:41You have Diego Garcia out in the Indian Ocean,
00:47:45and it has facilities that are reportedly prepped to take prisoners,
00:47:51and you have a huge operation going on over in Guam
00:47:55that virtually nobody is paying attention to
00:47:58that could also take a very large number of prisoners.
00:48:01So, you know, working up for something major,
00:48:06maybe overdoing it, maybe not.
00:48:1025,000, that's a big number.
00:48:17Is Gitmo, just the Gitmo location itself, capable of processing that?
00:48:23Do they need to expand further than the expansion we've already had over the years?
00:48:28Well, I think that the only way you can read that is in some kind of an emergency,
00:48:38there's a need to process a lot of people.
00:48:42And, by the way, in the processing, you don't get a three-day, you know, hearing,
00:48:49a custody hearing, you don't get a lot of the normal processes that people are used to
00:48:59in an Article III court.
00:49:01And Matt mentioned something that I think is really important.
00:49:07You know, these things can be fast,
00:49:09but I think relatively they will be fast in many ways
00:49:14compared to, say, a normal Article III court,
00:49:18but they don't have to be super fast.
00:49:24This is about bringing the public along,
00:49:26providing the evidence that the public will want to know
00:49:31and understand how we got where we're at.
00:49:33So racing through some of these trials is maybe not going to happen
00:49:38just by the volume of the evidence.
00:49:40Remember, you have a media center.
00:49:43Matt helped to build it, you know, almost 20 years ago now, I think.
00:49:48And that media center has been expanded in the interim
00:49:53so that media from around the world could show up
00:49:57and be present and ask questions to understand this.
00:50:02And that's why I think even this show is important.
00:50:04The processes that are gone through to do a prosecution with a tribunal
00:50:13are much, much more rapid and streamlined than the civilian courts are.
00:50:22And they're actually designed to process lots of people very quickly.
00:50:25And, but you can hold a person without charging them for a very long time
00:50:33in this kind of a setting, especially if it's done under a national emergency.
00:50:39So.
00:50:41Thank you, Juan.
00:50:42I want to go to retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt.
00:50:45Matt, and we'll go back to Juan on this afterwards as well.
00:50:48Let's elaborate about this media center.
00:50:50You've been on the ground there firsthand, Matt.
00:50:55What can you tell us?
00:50:57How, how, how big is this media center in terms of square footage?
00:51:01What kind of discourse and reporting might we expect coming out of Gitmo?
00:51:07Will it be live?
00:51:09Will some of it be pre-recorded?
00:51:13Acted?
00:51:13What type of coverage do you anticipate might be coming from Gitmo?
00:51:17And how big is this space?
00:51:21You know, John, when I, when I was down there in 04 and we had it and we started expanding it,
00:51:31I'd say right now it's probably, I'm trying to get it in my mind of what it would look like
00:51:36so that the audience could, um, could understand it and, and visualize it.
00:51:41It's probably like, um, uh, probably a good, a good, a good side, the, the, the inside of it,
00:51:51a good size, a good size high school gymnasium, right?
00:51:55Uh, the big high school, good size gym.
00:51:57Um, about that big, uh, it's designed to facilitate, um, media, um, and, and also, uh, non-governmental
00:52:07organizations because one of the things that we, we do is we talked about earlier in the
00:52:12show, want to be transparent, um, show what's going on, not have it done, um, like a, a,
00:52:20a quarter star chamber or a show trial, but also to Juan's point to bring the audience
00:52:26along to let them see what's going on.
00:52:29So I don't know if there'd be live transmissions from there.
00:52:33I, I, I know you'll have reporters covering it live, probably recording it much like I
00:52:41think you see with, um, the white house, uh, pool reporters when they go with the president
00:52:46from like the white house to Andrews air force base.
00:52:50And I don't call it joint base Andrews.
00:52:51It's, it's still Andrews air force base to me.
00:52:53Um, they, they'll delay the broadcast from a security perspective, right?
00:52:59So you don't, you don't necessarily want to let people know a high value target or, um,
00:53:05offended is in the media center at that time.
00:53:08Um, so it's, it's very robust, very large, and it's designed to accommodate a large number
00:53:15of media.
00:53:16And I think what you're going to see Trump do, um, is not just the media that we grew up
00:53:21with, but media like this, the, the independent media that, um, sadly, unlike the corporate
00:53:30media is the only media that's that reports the truth and, and, and admits, uh, when they
00:53:36get something wrong and not afraid to ask the tough questions.
00:53:40But I think you're going to see it, um, I think you're going to see it not broadcast
00:53:45that live, but you'll see robust and unprecedented access to the media there, John, and, and
00:53:51non-governmental office, Red Cross, Red Crescent, they'll all be able to be there.
00:53:56Thank you, Matt.
00:53:57You know, just a quick comment on the independent media or the, uh, whatever term you'd like
00:54:02to use, uh, the, one of the reasons I might add is they don't have a biased or an agenda
00:54:09other than to get the truth reported.
00:54:11And, uh, and that leads me to Pete Hegseth.
00:54:14Uh, I don't have the facts in front of me.
00:54:16I'm paraphrasing this, but he recently, uh, through the Pentagon has revoked the licenses
00:54:20of almost every major media outlet, uh, uncovering, uh, certain, certain events because they would
00:54:27not sign a document, um, put forth by, uh, Hegseth and so forth, uh, to, to protect secrets,
00:54:34uh, for the nation's safety.
00:54:36Uh, I, of course, applaud that.
00:54:39Uh, but if you've got the majority of the media now, uh, I guess, is it, is it, does this
00:54:47pertain to covering Gitmo as well?
00:54:49It leads to a big question.
00:54:50What is the process and whom is in charge of it that chooses and qualifies those that
00:54:58who will be granted access at this media center in Gitmo to report all the avalanche of activity
00:55:05that's happening and on its way?
00:55:08Um, does it, does that make sense as a question?
00:55:10Uh, do I need to clarify it?
00:55:13No, John, it makes sense.
00:55:15I would, I would, I would submit, it'll be the department of war, um, would have, if history
00:55:22is a guide, they were, they were, um, uh, in charge of credentialing for media to go down
00:55:29to Gitmo.
00:55:31Um, so I would say the same thing would happen for these tribunals.
00:55:35It's, it's going to be the department of war.
00:55:37So your point is well taken.
00:55:39That media that just said, you know, basically gave the, the two finger, I won't put them up,
00:55:44a two finger salute to the Pentagon, basically common sense things, right?
00:55:48They don't want you roaming.
00:55:50Literally journalists there could roam around the halls of the Pentagon, right?
00:55:53They could just roam around at will.
00:55:55You can't do that in the white house.
00:55:56You can't do that in other locations.
00:55:57That's just asinine, right?
00:55:59So I think they've cut their throats here.
00:56:02The, the corporate media or the mainstream media, whatever you want to call them, because
00:56:06they now have said, I'm not complying.
00:56:09Okay.
00:56:09You're not going to comply.
00:56:11You, I don't think you're going to see them at Gitmo.
00:56:13Because the department of war will be responsible for allowing journalists to go down there.
00:56:18Well, that's encouraging in terms of us getting good unfiltered information.
00:56:23Juan, if you, you still got audio transmission on Juan.
00:56:26If you can comment on this question as well, Juan, we'd appreciate it.
00:56:32Well, as to the way the media would be able to cover this, there's several things.
00:56:38They may be able to interview attorneys that are coming and going from their trials about
00:56:42certain things that they can talk about.
00:56:45Remember, a lot of the stuff is going to be highly classified.
00:56:49So there's a evidence review area, actually several of them now, that attorneys can go in
00:56:58and view the evidence against their client that is classified, but they'll be talking to the media right there.
00:57:05So there's as close to an opportunity to be fair.
00:57:10The world knows what's going on as possible while not giving up any secrets.
00:57:16Thank you, Juan.
00:57:19Juan, before you joined us, Matt and I covered a lot of ground.
00:57:22We've been at this for about an hour.
00:57:24We'll probably wrap up in the next 10 minutes or so.
00:57:26But I wanted to have you weigh in also on something Matt commented on.
00:57:30We talked about the Nuremberg trials.
00:57:32And I, you know, evoked the idea that the biological weapon and all those that orchestrated this are crimes against humanity.
00:57:44Of course, Putin wants his hands on them, the international courts.
00:57:47And I would imagine so do we.
00:57:49Do you see a Nuremberg style trials, modern day, taking place down at Gitmo or other locations under our jurisdiction,
00:58:01taking place for these crimes against humanity that have been done to the people in America and all over the world?
00:58:08Do you think we'll have Nuremberg style trials for the likes of Bill Gates and Fauci and everyone else,
00:58:12anyone else, due to due process, that end up having to face a Nuremberg style trial?
00:58:20Do you think we're going to have that?
00:58:22And if so, how does that look?
00:58:23What does it look like to us?
00:58:24Well, let me let me dive in there.
00:58:26So you can't discuss the election fraud, the crimes against America and other countries around the world,
00:58:36and not address the COVID racket, the attempt to affect the way the vote was conducted,
00:58:49not just in America but around the world.
00:58:52And by the way, I'll remind people, these clubs, these groups,
00:58:57they love to have their hidden messages, signals, handshakes, et cetera.
00:59:04Nineteen is the power number.
00:59:08And so they even tattooed that number into this whole operation.
00:59:16This was a far more extensive operation than most people have understood to this point in time.
00:59:22All right, folks, we've got intermittent contact with Juan.
00:59:36We'll hope he bounces back in.
00:59:38Matt, did you want to chime in while we're waiting?
00:59:40John, I want to, if I can, just for, it's about a 40-second clip.
00:59:44I'm going to play it so you can hear it.
00:59:46But this is President Trump addressing the 800 flag officers at Marine Corps Base Quantico about a week or so ago.
00:59:56And I said, we like to name it the F-47.
01:00:00I said, let me think about it.
01:00:03And after thinking for about two seconds, I said, okay.
01:00:07You know what that means, 47.
01:00:09I'm 47.
01:00:09So I'm 45, 46, and 47, yeah, if you think about it.
01:00:14Did you hear that?
01:00:14I just don't want the credit for 46.
01:00:17I don't want to have their open borders.
01:00:21You said I'm 45, 46, and 47.
01:00:26Thank you very much for airing that here.
01:00:29That's a go sign big time.
01:00:34Excellent.
01:00:35Juan, you're back.
01:00:35Yeah, I'll probably go out of range momentarily, but let me just add one quick thing, John.
01:00:42You asked me about the COVID.
01:00:43COVID-19, 19 is the power number.
01:00:46They emblazoned, tattooed all their secret messages into everything.
01:00:50You cannot hold the Gitmo trials when it comes to the elections and the vote fraud to put in leadership that wasn't the will of the American people
01:01:01and other countries around the world without including the vaccine and those who intended to help cooking them and steal control of countries all over the world.
01:01:17It must be part of the process of an act.
01:01:23It killed millions.
01:01:27Thank you, Juan.
01:01:33I'm going to attempt a last quick question before you disappear audio on us.
01:01:38Matt and I discussed earlier all roads lead to Hillary and Obama.
01:01:45We've connected the dots on that, and I think the American people understand that.
01:01:48My last question to you, Juan, is with the FISA exposure, the Russia, Russiagate, Benghazi, and everything, the election theft, and everything else,
01:01:57the 51 individuals on the laptop, all of these things now are official through respective areas of our administration.
01:02:07With all roads leading to Hillary and Obama, I see the word treason here.
01:02:11I'm not going to dance around it.
01:02:13What do you see potentially playing out with those two names considering these soon-to-be charges?
01:02:21Well, you've got to have prosecutions here.
01:02:30You can't do it through the justice system.
01:02:33It's just too fried, cooked, and it will be in a military setting.
01:02:38Hillary will not get away with all the stuff that she did
01:02:40because the dossier was paid for by Hillary's campaign
01:02:49in collusion with foreign governments, including British intelligence
01:02:54and several other intelligence agencies.
01:02:57Brennan's going down.
01:03:00Bill Clinton is included with the latest stuff out of Ukraine.
01:03:05He's been invoked as being heavily involved in what happened with the theft of our elections
01:03:15with assistance out of Ukraine, and the Clinton Foundation, and money laundering, etc.
01:03:22The next couple of years, probably for the next 10 years,
01:03:28you will be seeing the direct action in the form of prosecutions
01:03:33for those people involved in this act of war against America and other countries
01:03:37and the fallout from it.
01:03:41So this isn't over anytime soon, but the big opening is very, very, very short now, I believe.
01:03:49Thank you very much, 107.
01:03:52We're going to close out the show with Matt, but before we do, Juan,
01:03:55any announcements or anything else you care to share with our audience before we sign you off?
01:04:01Well, I haven't raised my prices on silver over at allpatriots.gumroad.com.
01:04:10I'm going to pretty shortly.
01:04:13We've had silver touch in the mid-54 range, headed to 55.
01:04:19It's pulled back a bit, which I expected, and I told people I expected.
01:04:22It's for 70.
01:04:26Everybody knows it.
01:04:28It'll stabilize a little bit, possibly here, but then rock it off.
01:04:34There's, you know, the lines in countries around the world just get gold and silver.
01:04:39Australia, Vietnam, Japan, Korea, unbelievable, Philippines.
01:04:51So people know something's going on.
01:04:53It's going to get very sketchy here.
01:04:58And then Jen has some fun stuff over at the Jennifer Mac.
01:05:01So, you know, getting there while they're getting is good.
01:05:04Prices are going way higher than this.
01:05:07So, talk to you later.
01:05:11Juan, I'd love to have you back on the Global Financial Reset live show I do in the near future
01:05:20to comment on the backwardation and the games that are being played
01:05:23as the handcuffs are coming off the silver market out of London and so forth.
01:05:28So thanks for raising that issue.
01:05:30We'll say goodbye to Juan O'Sav and God bless you, sir.
01:05:33Stay safe on the highway.
01:05:34Matt, any other announcements or anything else you'd like to share with our audience
01:05:38before we conclude this episode?
01:05:40And it's been very, very insightful.
01:05:42And I thank you very, very much for your keen insights and what you've been able to share with us.
01:05:48I would say two things.
01:05:51It's folks that we work with and are friends with.
01:05:55If folks are going to be in or near the D.C. area on October 28th, especially media.
01:06:02John, anybody from your media group who wants to go up there?
01:06:06We're at the Hay Adams Hotel in D.C. right across from the White House on 28 October at 2 p.m.
01:06:13in their Windsor room.
01:06:15And I can give information to Sandy if your folks want to go there.
01:06:18Marlee Hornick, formerly with United Sovereigns American, is going to be having a press conference
01:06:24announcing a major lawsuit filed today, federal lawsuit against Letitia James for violation of rights,
01:06:31constitutionally based.
01:06:33And then if folks want to stay in that area, on 30 October, again, I can send you a,
01:06:39I'll send it to Sandy, a placard.
01:06:41General Michael Flynn and Ellie Gould of the Golden Institute has been very great,
01:06:48great allies with us on exposing Fast and Furious and so forth.
01:06:52They're going to have the independent media assembly from in the U.S., outside the U.S.
01:06:59They'll have Laura Logan.
01:07:01They'll have Bishop Leon Benjamin.
01:07:02They're going to have Jack Posobiec, plus others from overseas talking about the overreach
01:07:09of the government.
01:07:10And that's going to be 28 October and 30 October, one of the Hay Adams Hotel, 28 October, 2 p.m.
01:07:17I'll send Sandy the information.
01:07:19Press can come if they want to cover it.
01:07:22Very welcome.
01:07:23And then the 30th, I'll send Sandy that list so she can put it out to your audience of folks
01:07:28who might want to attend this conference.
01:07:31I think it's from 10 until 2 on the 30th that General Michael Flynn and Ellie Gould of the
01:07:37Gold Institute are putting on, John.
01:07:40Thank you very much for that.
01:07:42We appreciate it and look forward to it.
01:07:44And on that note, in the digital green room before we went live here, we're talking about
01:07:50Patrick Byrne.
01:07:51Let's follow up with that, sir, if you can, because we'd love to get Patrick Byrne onto
01:07:55Conversations of Consequence, one of our other programs.
01:07:58It's been a couple of years since I've seen and spoken with Pat.
01:08:01And we'd love to circle back around with him.
01:08:04He's a treasure trove of information, certainly pertaining to the election theft.
01:08:09National hero.
01:08:10And I'll tell you, he was the catalyst that allowed our country to survive.
01:08:16When I say he was a catalyst, his money, 95 percent of his wealth funded the events that
01:08:23we did, the election integrity forums.
01:08:25General Flynn credits Patrick and the America Project for the Republicans winning the House
01:08:30back in 2022.
01:08:33And what others I won't name because I want to say off the grid.
01:08:38But Martine Rodile, Gary Bernstein, former CIA station chief, and Patrick Byrne did on their
01:08:46own to find out what happened to our elections and 71 other countries around the world.
01:08:53Wow.
01:08:53Our smartmatic that infiltrated all these other election machines through elections going
01:08:59back from 2006 forward.
01:09:03If it weren't for Patrick Byrne, his money, but those people getting that information through
01:09:09the U.S. government, their briefings closely gathered directly, Gary and Martine, God knows
01:09:16if we wouldn't have survived this color revolution.
01:09:18So American hero is all.
01:09:21Absolutely.
01:09:22Thank you, sir.
01:09:23Patrick Byrne is an American hero.
01:09:26And I saw him give a speech when, you know, we were a media partner from day one at the Clay
01:09:31Clark General Flynn reawakened to her as a platform speaker for a lion's share of that.
01:09:36And so I, you know, crossed paths with Pat.
01:09:38We'd interviewed him years back at American Media Press School, but I saw him give a speech.
01:09:44Usually, you know, the platform speakers got 15 minutes and some maybe 20 or 30.
01:09:49Pat was up there for a good 90 minutes with a PowerPoint and really laid down the revealed
01:09:54a lot of what was once clandestine operations that he had done over the years.
01:10:00And now, of course, with the election theft, yeah, that gentleman needs to be saluted by
01:10:03everyone in this country.
01:10:05I can't thank you and Juan enough for your time and expertise today.
01:10:09I salute you, gentlemen, for your service in and out of uniform, keeping us accurately
01:10:14informed, not all the hype and nonsense, and keeping this country safe.
01:10:19Thank you, retired Lieutenant Colonel Matt Meck, for your continued service.
01:10:24We look forward to seeing you next month back here at Eyes on Gitmo.
01:10:28Thank you very much.
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