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Dumoulin: “Ayuso es joven y con talento, su salida es valiente para correr por sí mismo"
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El campeón neerlandés repasa su carrera, reflexiona sobre la pérdida de autonomía en el ciclismo moderno y analiza el dominio de Tadej Pogacar, la evolución del ciclismo español y la salud mental en el deporte.
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Sí, estoy muy feliz.
00:02
En el año pasado, ya se salió en los Norte.
00:06
Y ahora, incluso en España.
00:09
Estoy muy emocionada.
00:12
Es diferente.
00:16
Para mí, sí.
00:20
Fue como, el mejor que me ha sido,
00:24
el mejor que mis resultados fueron,
00:26
el mejor que me ha sido.
00:30
El menos que me ha dicho sobre mi programa,
00:34
sobre mi training, sobre mi nutrición.
00:36
Fue como,
00:38
la libertad y autonomía que tenía en los primeros años,
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era menos y menos y menos.
00:50
Y creo que,
00:52
bueno,
00:54
si hay dinero,
00:55
y sponsors,
00:56
y teams,
00:58
todos tienen un say
00:59
en un programa
01:00
y preparación,
01:02
y todo.
01:04
que están pagando,
01:06
un buen salario,
01:08
como líder de un equipo.
01:10
Y eso también significa que
01:12
a veces necesitas hacer cosas
01:14
que el equipo quiere,
01:16
o el sponsor quiere,
01:18
o lo que sea.
01:19
Pero para mí,
01:20
el balance no es el mejor.
01:24
Y no sé si es para todos los grandes
01:28
líderes,
01:29
hoy en día,
01:30
es el mismo.
01:31
Creo que
01:32
líderes como Pogacá y Mathieu van der Poel,
01:34
pueden
01:36
hacer sus decisiones,
01:38
especialmente Mathieu van der Poel.
01:40
Creo que
01:41
realmente chooses
01:42
dónde quiere ir,
01:44
qué goals quiere.
01:46
Así que
01:48
creo que depende de un líder.
01:51
Sí,
01:53
as longas
01:54
he likes
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to ride his bike
01:56
and
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to race
01:58
and to train
01:59
and
02:00
I'm happy for him,
02:01
you know.
02:04
I would
02:05
probably make
02:06
a different decision
02:08
in his place,
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but
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that's me
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and
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he is him
02:13
and I respect him
02:14
very,
02:15
very much.
02:16
I mean,
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he's a fourth time
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Tour de France winner
02:19
and I have
02:20
the utmost respect for him
02:22
and his decision
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to continue racing
02:24
when he so likes it.
02:26
Yeah.
02:27
And
02:28
I
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love
02:30
seeing him
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racing
02:32
and smashing it.
02:33
I mean,
02:34
he's maybe
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the greatest rider
02:36
ever,
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you know,
02:38
and it's very special
02:39
to
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see
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the greatest rider
02:42
ever
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racing
02:44
and
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winning
02:47
almost every race.
02:48
I mean,
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it's
02:52
yeah,
02:53
it's just special
02:54
to be watching that.
02:55
But on the other hand,
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I mean,
02:57
you cannot deny
02:58
that
03:01
that we would like to see
03:02
battles until the end.
03:04
That's the most exciting racing
03:05
that you can
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that you can have
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battling
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until the last moment
03:11
like
03:13
in the Giro of 2017
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2017
03:15
when
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when four riders
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were still
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in the last
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time trial,
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they were still
03:22
battling it out
03:23
for the win.
03:24
I mean,
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of course, it's more exciting
03:26
than
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seeing Pogacar leave
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at 80 kilometers to go
03:30
in his own.
03:31
But, but still, I mean,
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his level of performance
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and his, his killer mentality
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is something
03:39
I admire a lot.
03:40
So it's
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I'm definitely not bored
03:44
with him winning.
03:45
But
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yeah,
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I would also
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for next year,
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I would, I would love to see
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for example,
03:53
Remco Evenepoel
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or Jonas Fingergaard
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really going head to head
03:56
with him and
03:57
and that it's going
03:58
to be
04:00
yeah,
04:01
a strong battle until the end
04:02
in the Tour de France,
04:03
for example.
04:06
I've never seen
04:07
Eddie Merckx racing.
04:09
So it's always difficult
04:10
to compare times.
04:13
It's, it's, it was a different age
04:15
when Eddie Merckx was racing
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compared to now.
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So it's, it's always difficult
04:20
to compare.
04:21
Yeah.
04:22
Yeah.
04:23
I think,
04:25
well, a lot of, a lot of stories
04:29
had been written already
04:30
about Ayuso leaving
04:31
and Ayuso not,
04:33
not working for,
04:35
for the leaders.
04:36
But I can also understand,
04:37
I mean, there's, there's,
04:39
there's today Pogacar
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and if today Pogacar
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is on the start line,
04:44
everybody's,
04:45
all his teammates
04:46
are always running for him.
04:47
Of course.
04:48
Because he's,
04:49
he's the very best there is.
04:50
But Ayuso is still a young rider.
04:52
And if he stays at UAE,
04:56
if, if he would have stayed
04:57
in UAE and he would have worked
04:59
for Pogacar,
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he would have had a great career.
05:02
But, but probably without
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any big opportunities
05:07
to go for himself.
05:09
So I think it's a bold move
05:11
for him to, to move
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to Little Trek.
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But it could also really work out.
05:17
And, and now he can finally,
05:19
race for himself.
05:22
And I think that's, that's,
05:24
that's better for a diversion
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of, of all the big leaders
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to, to go to different teams
05:30
and fight it out in the race,
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you know?
05:32
Yes.
05:34
I think so.
05:35
I think Vingegaard will,
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will definitely be in the coming few years,
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he will definitely still be,
05:42
the big, the biggest competitor
05:46
in the Tour de France.
05:47
Not that the one day races,
05:50
but that the Tour de France,
05:51
I think it's,
05:52
it's going to be a clash
05:54
between Vingegaard and, and, and Pogacar
05:56
for maybe another couple of years.
06:00
I think they are.
06:03
Um, it's gradually improving,
06:06
but the difficulty about mental health
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is also that there's no data available
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to, to say, or to say what your mental health is
06:18
and how to improve it.
06:20
You know, uh, you can see all the data
06:23
of how much power you push on the pedals
06:25
and you can see all the data of your nutrition
06:28
and you can see all the data.
06:30
So that's all very available
06:32
and we can measure it
06:34
and we can, uh, change it.
06:37
You know, uh, if, if, if, uh,
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if you do bad values on, on the power meter,
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you can change your training, you can rest
06:45
or whatever the trainer and you,
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they know what to do.
06:50
But with mental health, it's very difficult.
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You cannot put it in data.
06:55
So I think it's, it's something that,
06:57
that, that will keep, that will,
07:00
that will say an issue for, for, for maybe always.
07:04
But, uh, it's also, it's where the basic
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of, of, of performance starts.
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I mean, you need to be happy to perform.
07:11
So, um, I think teams acknowledge that
07:15
and they are definitely finding, uh, ways to, to,
07:19
yeah, to help the riders with that.
07:21
But, uh, it's gradually improving,
07:23
but it's, it's definitely not there yet.
07:25
Uh, one of the things that I, I, I didn't like
07:30
anymore as a rider was the, the always traveling.
07:34
So I was away from home for more than 200 days per year,
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maybe 250 days per year.
07:40
And as a sports director,
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you're always away from home as well.
07:44
So I don't see myself immediately, uh,
07:49
getting into a sports director role because of, uh,
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because of that.
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But, um, uh, maybe if I could do more from home,
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uh, yeah, that could be, that could be very helpful.
08:03
Have a nice idea.
08:05
With that, that could be very helpful.
08:07
.
08:08
It could be very helpful.
08:09
It's being helpful.
08:11
I think that your,
08:13
the Wednesday's silence should be very helpful.
08:14
That's being helpful.
08:16
Mm-hm.
08:20
Yeah.
08:21
You,
08:22
� Bloom looks a little bit perhaps eligible.
08:24
Yeah.
08:26
Okay,
08:26
but moreouter than when I'm leaving now.
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Actually,
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No would you lose any Meter?
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