Geopolitical expert Abhijit Chavda joins for an explosive discussion on Trump 2.0, Adani, and the hidden hands shaping world politics. He analyses the Deep State’s influence, India’s global ascent, Russian oil trade, and Pakistan’s uncertain future—offering a sharp lens on the new world power play in motion.
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00:00Do you see India-US ties will be facing a lot of trouble
00:03till Trump sits at the helm in the United States?
00:06When we become a 10 or 15 trillion dollar economy,
00:09they expect that India will be a totally different kind of beast.
00:13They don't want to see in the future a new challenger rising on the horizon.
00:18So the US now seems to have changed its policy towards India
00:21from a policy of cooperation to a policy of containment.
00:25Should India stop buying Russian oil?
00:27We don't want to undermine Russia's world standing.
00:30Russia is important for us.
00:31We don't want Russia's economy to suffer
00:33because it is very important for us.
00:34It gives us leverage over the West.
00:36How governments are being toppled in Asia?
00:38We have example of Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal,
00:42any sort of US deep state at work in India to destabilize the current government.
00:46India, I am sure, is significantly penetrated.
00:49Possible in the future that India may be the target of a regime change operation.
00:53How do you see Pakistan handling Trump 2.0?
00:56They are willing to sell off their nation piece by piece to the United States,
01:00which is why they have an excellent relationship with the US.
01:03The US case, bribery case against Adani.
01:05Criticism comes from that side that Adani pays to the central government
01:08and gets central projects, airports, ports, everything is being handled to him.
01:13If a foreign country wants to contain you,
01:18it makes sense for them to go after industries or the few corporations
01:22that are aligned with your national interests and are creating infrastructure
01:26and jobs that will bolster your economy
01:28and also bolster national security, interconnectivity and so much more.
01:32Strategic autonomy.
01:33And therefore, it is not surprising
01:35that Adani, etc. have been targeted in whatever way they have been.
01:39And is this all organic?
01:42It definitely is not organic.
01:44Russia seems to be a great friend.
01:45They have helped us in all the wars.
01:47They have supplied us weapons and ammunition.
01:49But they are still giving jet engines to Pakistan.
01:52Russia is selling a few jet engines to Pakistan.
01:55If there is a war, they will be on India's side.
01:58They might not come to fight for us,
01:59but they will not be on the side of Pakistan.
02:09Hello and welcome to ANI Interviews.
02:11I am Naman Yadav.
02:12Right now with me is Abhijit Chavada, sir.
02:14He is a geopolitical analyst, author, writer, podcaster.
02:18He wears a lot of hats.
02:19We will be having a conversation around Trump, Modi, wars,
02:23everything under the sun.
02:25Sir, I will start with the latest.
02:26The Prime Minister is not going to be meeting Trump
02:28in the ASEAN Summit.
02:29He will be attending it virtually.
02:31How do you see it?
02:32Do you see India-US ties will be facing a lot of trouble
02:36till Trump sits at the helm in the United States?
02:40Trump's coming to power has been an inflection point
02:42in global geopolitics and of course for India-US relations.
02:46So India-US relations the past decade, two decades,
02:48have been characterized by what they call a strategic alignment.
02:51That India and the US are on the same boat
02:53and we have essentially a common threat, common adversary
02:56which we face very clearly at home, which is China.
03:00China's hegemonic aspirations, China's expansionism,
03:04its expansionist activities, China's support for Pakistan
03:07and so much more.
03:08So it made sense for India and US to be aligned together.
03:12But the past decade or so, India has kind of transformed itself
03:16economically and in other domains.
03:17And the US now seems to be regarding India
03:20as a potential adversary maybe in a 20-year horizon.
03:26See, right now India is a 4 point something,
03:28whatever the number is, trillion dollar economy.
03:31In the future, when we become a 10 or 15 trillion dollar economy,
03:35they expect that India will be a totally different kind of beast
03:39because with size comes strength
03:41and different aspirations, different ambitions.
03:43So they don't want to see in the future
03:46a new challenger rising on the horizon
03:48just like China currently is a challenger
03:50which the US itself aided and abetted in its rise, right?
03:54So the US now seems to have changed its policy towards India
03:57from a policy of cooperation to a policy of containment.
04:03What signs and symptoms do we see of containment?
04:06They have effected a regime change first of all in Pakistan
04:08in the year 2022, the ouster of Imran Khan
04:11and the installation of Shahbaz Sharif
04:15who is completely pro-US
04:17and also the US, the way it's aligning with Pakistan right now.
04:21Secondly, you had a regime change in Bangladesh
04:23in the year 2024, the ouster of Sheikh Hasina
04:26who was very favorably inclined towards subcontinental integration
04:29especially with India
04:30and now you have the installation of Mohammed Yunus
04:32who is very anti-India.
04:35So we see all of that.
04:36We see also the regime change that happened in Nepal
04:38so we are seeing India being encircled
04:41we talk about the Chinese string of pearls
04:43but we also have this ring of thorns
04:45that is being constructed around us.
04:47So the US is now treating India as a future adversary
04:50and even right now the relationship is becoming
04:52more adversarial in nature
04:53and Mr. Trump who we are talking about
04:56he has this proclivity for making all kinds of statements
04:59that are designed to pressurize the target
05:02so he'll say that India has committed to doing this
05:05India, Mr. Modi has promised that he will do this
05:07when no such thing has happened
05:08and by doing this it has a two-fold effect.
05:13First of all, it dares you, it challenges you
05:17to claim that Mr. Trump is lying
05:19and if you do that
05:20he's going to hold it against you
05:22and he's going to be even more
05:23he's going to impose more pressure on you
05:25maybe more trade restrictions, tariffs, whatever.
05:27So Mr. Trump keeps on doing this
05:29and if Mr. Modi meets Trump
05:32Mr. Trump is going to make all kinds of claims
05:35about what Mr. Modi may or may not have said
05:37and that's going to be a problem for us.
05:39So it makes sense for Mr. Modi
05:41to not meet Mr. Trump
05:43at this point in time
05:44and that's essentially how I see
05:47what has happened.
05:49That Mr. Trump, Mr. Modi is most likely
05:50not going to be going to the ASEAN summit
05:53he's going to participate virtually
05:54and there's going to be no
05:56Trump-Modi meeting
05:57and yeah, I think it makes sense.
06:00You briefly spoke about
06:01how governments are being toppled in Asia
06:02we have example of Sri Lanka, Pakistan,
06:05Bangladesh, Nepal
06:06do you think is there a sort of
06:09any sort of US deep state at work
06:11in India to destabilize
06:12the current government or current regime?
06:15Look, first of all, we have to understand
06:17or define what deep state means.
06:20Okay, there are multiple definitions
06:22of what deep state is.
06:23If you ask Mr. Trump
06:24he's going to have a certain
06:26definition of deep state.
06:27If you ask other entities
06:29outside of the US
06:29they will have a different
06:30definition of deep state.
06:31When Mr. Trump came to power
06:33he fired lots of bureaucrats
06:36and he said that he's cleaning out
06:38the deep state, right?
06:39He's draining the swamp and so on.
06:41So according to Mr. Trump
06:42deep state means
06:43the unaccountable bureaucrats
06:45who serve lifelong positions
06:47in the US establishment
06:48maybe the Pentagon
06:49maybe other departments and so on.
06:51So that is Mr. Trump's definition of deep state.
06:53The unaccountable bureaucracy.
06:55Let's trim that down
06:56and the deep state is taken care of.
06:58From a different perspective
06:59deep state means
07:00or could mean
07:01it comes from a Turkish word
07:03Daulat something
07:04I forget the full term
07:05but it comes from
07:07the meaning is
07:08that there exists apparently
07:10allegedly
07:10an unaccountable
07:13extra constitutional
07:14extra democratic
07:15extra electoral
07:16extra government
07:17center of power
07:17in the US
07:19or maybe outside the US
07:20that controls that nation.
07:22So it is something
07:24that is outside of the government
07:25so the people can't affect it.
07:26They can't vote
07:27that sort of thing
07:28out of power.
07:28If you don't like the president
07:29you can vote him out
07:30but if there's a deep state
07:31that is super presidential
07:33that even controls
07:34your presidents
07:34then what will you do?
07:36Does it exist?
07:37Does it not exist?
07:37Well, most academics
07:39would give you the consensus
07:41that it is a
07:42controversy theory, right?
07:45But maybe it does exist
07:46because you can see
07:47signs and symptoms of that.
07:49Sometimes US presidents
07:50who don't align
07:51with certain objectives
07:52or initiatives
07:53they are either 1963
07:56like Kennedy
07:57or maybe something
07:58like that 2020 happens
08:00when Trump claims
08:01that the election
08:01was stolen from him.
08:02So clearly there are powers
08:03that are clearly
08:05more powerful
08:06than the US president.
08:07The Federal Reserve
08:08Bank of the United States,
08:10right?
08:11Who owns it?
08:12Does the US government
08:13own it?
08:14The US government
08:15doesn't own it.
08:16They will say that
08:17it has shareholders,
08:19stakeholders
08:19who are distributed
08:20among various other banks
08:21in the US
08:22and so on and so forth
08:23but that's very muddy.
08:24It's very muddled
08:25and it's essentially
08:26a private bank
08:27that essentially controls
08:29and owns the US economy
08:30which means the US
08:32is owned by somebody
08:33who we don't know.
08:34Maybe a small group of people
08:35maybe a larger group of people.
08:36There have been various
08:37business people who have said
08:38that there exists maybe
08:40for example
08:41the Sri Lankan-born
08:42American entrepreneur
08:43Chamath Paliha Pitya.
08:45He once said
08:45and I'm sure that he regrets
08:46saying it
08:47that it's a small group
08:49of maybe 150 men
08:50who control the entire world
08:52and all the global finances
08:54and by extension
08:55the global
08:56geopolitics all over.
08:58So clearly something like this
09:00does exist.
09:01A deep state.
09:02Now the question you asked
09:03is about India.
09:04Does the deep state
09:05seek to undermine India
09:07or maybe do a regime change
09:09operation in India?
09:10So we know that there is
09:12something called
09:12the color revolution model.
09:14That template has been used
09:15over and over again.
09:16You could see the first signs
09:18and symptoms of that
09:18in Central Asia
09:19and Kyrgyzstan etc.
09:20in the early 2000s
09:22and then you had
09:23the Arab Spring
09:25which followed the same template
09:26and then you have
09:27other color revolutions
09:28that happen over and over again
09:29and you had
09:30in the 20th century
09:31also different versions
09:33of that
09:33in various African countries
09:35where dictators
09:36were installed
09:36and they would
09:38undermine their country
09:39they would make their country
09:41subservient
09:42to foreign powers
09:43typically the western powers
09:44and so on.
09:45So it clearly
09:46this model
09:47the color revolution template
09:48does exist.
09:49Now
09:49how do you execute
09:50a color revolution?
09:51You don't just put
09:52switch on
09:53you know
09:53press a switch
09:54and the color revolution
09:55executes itself
09:55you need to have assets
09:57on the ground
09:58in the target country
09:59you need to have
10:01funding networks
10:02you need to cultivate
10:03individuals
10:03in the target country
10:05what kind of individuals
10:06do you cultivate?
10:07You cultivate
10:08business people
10:09you cultivate
10:10you can cultivate
10:11politicians
10:12future political leaders
10:13or existing political leaders
10:15you can cultivate
10:16media outlets
10:18you can cultivate
10:18journalists
10:19academics
10:20teachers
10:21and so much more
10:22so influencers
10:24these are the tools
10:25that a foreign government
10:26can use to destabilize
10:27any other government
10:28outside of the country
10:29journalists
10:30media
10:30and social media platforms
10:32what else
10:33any government
10:34can use to destabilize
10:35government?
10:36Right
10:36so by doing all of this
10:38you can create
10:38so what are the means
10:39of destabilization
10:40is what you're asking
10:41there are
10:42it's called hybrid warfare
10:43which is a very big
10:44umbrella term
10:45which contains
10:47lots of different
10:48tools in the toolkit
10:49one of the tools
10:51in the toolkit
10:51is a manipulation
10:53of narratives
10:54disinformation campaigns
10:56so what you do
10:57is that if you have
10:58in a country
10:59in the target country
11:00let's say
11:01multiple compromised
11:02media assets
11:02who you are funding
11:03then
11:04I'm sure that
11:06all the media outlets
11:07in the country
11:07won't be compromised
11:08but some may be compromised
11:09so you use those
11:11to propagate
11:12certain narratives
11:13which erode
11:15the credibility
11:16of the government
11:17which sow discord
11:18in the country
11:19and contribute
11:20to chaos
11:21in the country
11:21they demoralize
11:22the country
11:23right
11:23that's one thing
11:24you do
11:24you use influencers
11:26who may be located
11:27within the country
11:28maybe outside the country
11:29and these individuals
11:31they read scripts
11:32looking at the camera
11:33there's a teleprompter
11:34there
11:34the viewer doesn't know it
11:35and they continuously
11:37bombard the narrative
11:38that the government
11:38is ineffective
11:39and so on
11:40that's one thing
11:40okay
11:41that's the disinformation
11:42campaigns
11:42another thing you can do
11:44is to cultivate
11:46individuals
11:47who are not in the media
11:48for example
11:49politicians
11:50for example
11:51academics
11:52for example
11:52people who run NGOs
11:54how do you cultivate them
11:56you can appeal to
11:57one of two things
11:57one is their personal ambitions
11:59their personal agendas
12:01maybe the personal greed
12:02which means you fund them
12:03another thing is
12:04you target their weaknesses
12:06you blackmail them
12:08if you have anything on them
12:09and it's not difficult
12:10to blackmail people
12:11if you know
12:11what their weaknesses are
12:12so by doing that
12:14you cultivate targets
12:16you cultivate assets
12:17that you can use
12:18on demand
12:19then you can obviously
12:20use other kinds of threats
12:23one is tariffs
12:24one is sanctions
12:25in case you are a powerful country
12:28that controls supply chains
12:29trade networks
12:30then you can create problems
12:33for the target country
12:34by cutting off supply chains
12:36maybe you control
12:37a network of ports
12:38in the region
12:39and that country
12:40is dependent on
12:41various kinds of imports
12:42so you block those imports
12:43you create delays
12:44you know
12:45very painful delays
12:46that's how you can
12:48destroy the country's economy
12:49and once again
12:50make the government
12:51look weak
12:52right
12:52then you can also do
12:54you can do
12:55cyber attacks
12:56you can disrupt
12:58the telecommunications sector
13:00you can disrupt
13:00the energy grid
13:01you can disrupt
13:02the stock market
13:04all of this
13:04once again
13:05makes the government
13:06look bad
13:06it looks like
13:07the government
13:07has lost control
13:08of the country
13:08when actually
13:09the attacks are coming
13:10from outside
13:11you can disrupt
13:13the
13:14in case you control
13:15countries
13:16that are energy exporters
13:18maybe oil exporters
13:19maybe oil and gas exporters
13:20then you can arm twist
13:22those countries
13:23into delaying shipments
13:24of oil
13:24or energy
13:26to the target country
13:27which can create chaos
13:28in the country
13:29right
13:29you can do
13:31you can support
13:32separatist movements
13:33in the country
13:33you can support
13:34you can fund
13:35and finance countries
13:36that are
13:37that are using terrorism
13:39against that country
13:40the toolkit
13:41can go on and on
13:42if you look at facebook
13:43if you look at youtube
13:45if you look at all the social media giants
13:47and all the apps
13:48nothing is being controlled by india
13:49the data is not stored in india
13:51they do not comply
13:52with indian it regulations
13:54should we have our own
13:56made in india app
13:57like zoho's messaging app
13:59has come up now
14:00do you think
14:01how can government support such apps
14:02and support such startups
14:04and should we follow china's rule
14:06and outrightly ban
14:08every single app
14:08right
14:09so this is a very major issue
14:10like you rightly say
14:11all these platforms
14:13whether it is facebook
14:15whether it is youtube
14:16whether it is gmail
14:18whether it is twitter
14:19or x
14:19snapchat
14:20instagram
14:21whatever you call it
14:22all the means
14:24that we indians use
14:26to communicate
14:26to communicate
14:27among ourselves
14:28these are all owned
14:30by foreign
14:31foreign powers
14:32see
14:32social media became a thing
14:34in the early 2000s
14:35mid 2000s
14:36orkut became a thing
14:37people don't even remember
14:38orkut
14:38orkut was owned by google
14:39orkut for the first time
14:41brought indians together
14:42maybe for the first time
14:43first time
14:44in a millennium
14:45in a thousand years
14:46indians could communicate
14:47with each other in real time
14:48and then you had facebook
14:49coming up
14:50then you had youtube
14:51you had twitter
14:52and so on
14:53and today indians take it
14:54for granted
14:54that we can communicate
14:55in real time
14:56with anybody
14:57across the country
14:58even people we don't know
14:59we can right now
15:00see a snapshot
15:01of what's happening
15:02in assam
15:03what's happening
15:04in kerala
15:04what's happening
15:05in other parts of india
15:06this is something
15:07we take for granted
15:08but this is also
15:10weaponized
15:10for spreading narratives
15:12for creating misinformation
15:13and so much more
15:14so this tool
15:16that is vital to us
15:18it's controlled
15:18by foreign governments
15:19and they can weaponize
15:20it in any way
15:21they can trend
15:22certain sentiments
15:23earlier used to have
15:25hashtag trending
15:25today we can
15:26trend other sentiments
15:27you can
15:28there are other nations
15:29that can you know
15:30create these bot farms
15:31you know
15:32in case you've not seen
15:34there were videos
15:35that came out
15:36that various pakistani groups
15:37and chinese groups
15:38they have these racks
15:39like you have bookshelves
15:41similarly they have racks
15:42filled with mobile phones
15:43all connected to the internet
15:44and each of these
15:45through ai
15:46is impersonating
15:48a twitter account
15:48or something
15:49and they are all
15:50you know
15:50mass producing narratives
15:52and you will have seen
15:53that after 2022
15:54after february 22
15:55there's been this
15:56outpouring of negative
15:58sentiment towards
15:59india on social media
16:00a lot of indophobia
16:01a lot of hindophobia
16:02a lot of anti-india
16:03sentiment
16:04disparaging india
16:05tottering india
16:06so and so
16:06all of that has
16:07suddenly surged
16:09after 2022
16:10and right now
16:11we are at the peak
16:12of that
16:12much of this
16:13could potentially
16:14be done
16:15by actors
16:17or nations
16:18that are inimical
16:19to our interests
16:20maybe pakistan
16:21maybe china
16:21maybe even
16:22somewhere in the west
16:23it could be happening
16:24so this is a very
16:25major problem
16:26and let's say
16:27in the future
16:27the west decides
16:28to cut off access
16:29to india
16:29then what do we do
16:30we're suddenly
16:30rudderless
16:31we can't communicate
16:32with each other
16:32so it is critical
16:34and i have been
16:35trying to highlight
16:35this for at least
16:36a decade
16:37that india needs
16:38to have its own
16:39social media
16:40platforms
16:40right
16:41but is it enough
16:42to just have
16:43social media platforms
16:44we had something
16:44like something
16:44called coup
16:45in the past
16:46coup was an
16:47indian version
16:48of twitter
16:48a substandard
16:49version of twitter
16:50i saw your expression
16:50it didn't work well
16:51it didn't work
16:52it was a terrible
16:53user experience
16:54terrible
16:55it was painful
16:56to use coup
16:57when you already
16:58are using twitter
16:58so we not only
17:01need to have
17:02our own social
17:02media apps
17:03but those should
17:04be world class
17:05we should not
17:07take shortcuts
17:08and the
17:08chalta hai attitude
17:09and produce
17:09substandard apps
17:10and then complain
17:11when indians
17:11don't adopt it
17:12indians will adopt
17:14an app only
17:14if it is world
17:15class where it
17:15provides a similar
17:17experience to
17:18existing apps
17:18if not a better
17:19experience
17:20then indians
17:21will adopt
17:21it
17:22so indian
17:22entrepreneurs
17:23need to take
17:24up this challenge
17:24right
17:25to create
17:26these apps
17:26and the indian
17:27government needs
17:27to clear the
17:28way for them
17:29to do this
17:29by creating
17:31a conducive
17:31business
17:32environment
17:33so that's
17:34what needs
17:34to happen
17:34it's very
17:35important
17:36it's critical
17:36our data
17:38is being
17:39harvested
17:40by the west
17:40by whoever
17:41is controlling
17:42these platforms
17:44tremendous amount
17:45see indians
17:46are some of
17:47the biggest
17:47users on
17:48facebook
17:48on twitter
17:49on youtube
17:50wherever else
17:51and other
17:52data
17:52freely
17:53accessible
17:53and harvested
17:54by the west
17:54and then
17:55that creates
17:56all kinds of
17:58social engineering
17:58scenarios
17:59because of that
17:59so it's very
18:01important
18:02it's vital
18:02it's critical
18:03for india
18:03at some point
18:05in time
18:05hopefully sooner
18:06rather than
18:06later
18:06to create
18:07its own
18:08apps
18:08should we
18:09emulate the
18:09chinese
18:10like you asked
18:10and create
18:11a walled
18:12garden
18:12maybe a great
18:14firewall of india
18:15like the chinese
18:15of the great
18:15firewall of china
18:16it's perhaps
18:19unfeasible
18:20because indians
18:21travel across
18:22the world
18:23and if we
18:23are ring
18:23fenced
18:24then we
18:24cannot
18:24communicate
18:25with people
18:25who are
18:26outside of
18:26india
18:26it will be
18:28portrayed as
18:29undemocratic
18:29and it will
18:30not
18:30you know
18:31it will
18:32create an
18:32echo chamber
18:33within india
18:33so ideally
18:35we should have
18:35our own
18:35platforms
18:36it is probably
18:37not feasible
18:37to create
18:38a great
18:39firewall
18:39and cut
18:40off india's
18:40access to
18:41the western
18:41internet
18:42and create
18:42a ring
18:43fenced
18:43version
18:43of an
18:44intranet
18:44kind of
18:45thing
18:45maybe it's
18:46not that
18:46feasible
18:46maybe not
18:48that practical
18:48there's too
18:49much penetration
18:49already
18:49and so on
18:50let me shift
18:51gears and ask
18:52you about
18:52pakistan
18:53how do you
18:54see
18:54pakistan
18:56handling
18:56trump 2.0
18:57asimoneer
18:58had met
18:59trump
18:59a couple
18:59of times
19:00in the last
19:00three or
19:01four months
19:01shaibas
19:02harif
19:02also met
19:02trump
19:03a couple
19:03of times
19:04they seem
19:04to be
19:05having
19:05a good
19:05ties
19:05you know
19:06rare earth
19:06minerals
19:07crypto
19:07the business
19:08seem to be
19:09doing well
19:09how do you
19:10see their
19:10relationship
19:10and should
19:11india
19:11be worried
19:12at all
19:12india
19:13should be
19:13very worried
19:13first of
19:14all
19:14right
19:14why should
19:15be worried
19:15why should
19:16we be
19:16worried
19:16see pakistan
19:17and india
19:18we are
19:18very different
19:18nations
19:19pakistan is
19:20a mercenary
19:21nation
19:21india is
19:23a genuine
19:23vibrant
19:24democracy
19:24with hundreds
19:25of political
19:25parties
19:26in complete
19:27chaos
19:27every five
19:28years
19:28when you
19:28have
19:28elections
19:28and
19:29tremendous
19:30uncertainty
19:30as to
19:30what will
19:31happen
19:31every five
19:31years
19:32that's
19:32a real
19:33democracy
19:33which is
19:33actually
19:34perhaps
19:34a problem
19:35for
19:35india
19:35pakistan
19:37ever since
19:38its inception
19:38essentially
19:39since its
19:40inception
19:40short time
19:41after its inception
19:42became a nation
19:43that was ruled
19:43by the military
19:44and in pakistan
19:46you have the
19:46semblance
19:47of some kind
19:47of democracy
19:48you have prime
19:48ministers
19:48who come
19:49and go
19:49but the real
19:50power always
19:51resides in the
19:52hands of the
19:52armed forces
19:53the military
19:54of pakistan
19:55so even
19:57when you have
19:57a prime
19:57minister
19:58who is
19:58on paper
20:01ruling the
20:01country
20:02you actually
20:02have the
20:03military
20:03that calls
20:03the shots
20:04and the prime
20:04minister
20:04can't do
20:05a thing
20:06that goes
20:06against the
20:07military
20:07otherwise
20:08you end
20:08up with
20:08someone
20:09like
20:09Mr. Bhutto
20:11who was
20:11hanged
20:11by Ziaul
20:12Haq
20:12and other
20:13instances
20:13also
20:14not that
20:14bad
20:15but similar
20:15so
20:17Pakistan's
20:17military
20:18what is
20:18its agenda
20:19its agenda
20:20is to
20:21stay in
20:21power
20:21in Pakistan
20:22as long
20:23as possible
20:24right
20:24how do you
20:25stay in
20:25power
20:26with the
20:26support
20:27of
20:27foreign
20:28governments
20:28they always
20:29play the
20:31role
20:31of
20:32making
20:33their nation
20:34subsidiary
20:35to a
20:35foreign
20:35agenda
20:35so that
20:36they can
20:36keep on
20:37receiving
20:37the
20:37paychecks
20:38and they
20:38can
20:39stay
20:39in
20:39power
20:40so
20:41Pakistan
20:42for the
20:42longest
20:42time
20:43and even
20:44now
20:44it
20:44conducts
20:45terrorist
20:45operations
20:46against
20:46India
20:46it's
20:48not a
20:49secret
20:49that the
20:50US
20:50funded
20:50and
20:50financed
20:51Pakistani
20:52terrorism
20:52against
20:52India
20:53essentially
20:54since
20:55immediately
20:55after
20:56Christmas
20:56day
20:561979
20:58which is
21:00the
21:01Soviet
21:01invasion
21:01of
21:01Afghanistan
21:02so
21:03that's
21:03when
21:03Pakistan
21:03became
21:04important
21:04Pakistan
21:05was
21:06created
21:06as a
21:07western
21:08outpost
21:09in the
21:09Indian
21:09subcontinent
21:09to cut
21:10off
21:11India's
21:11access
21:11to
21:11Central
21:12Asia
21:12and
21:12Europe
21:12our
21:13traditional
21:13land
21:14access
21:14and to
21:15create
21:15a
21:15permanent
21:16challenge
21:17to
21:17India
21:17something
21:17that
21:18can
21:18keep
21:18on
21:18bleeding
21:19India
21:19whenever
21:20required
21:20and
21:20keep
21:21India
21:21permanently
21:21off
21:22balance
21:22and
21:22now
21:23they
21:23have
21:23given
21:23them
21:23nuclear
21:23weapons
21:24I
21:24don't
21:24believe
21:24for
21:25one
21:25instance
21:25the
21:25Pakistani
21:26scientists
21:26are
21:26capable
21:27of
21:27developing
21:27nuclear
21:28weapons
21:28on
21:28their
21:28own
21:28they
21:29most
21:29likely
21:29have
21:36Pakistan
21:36does
21:37is
21:37that
21:37it
21:38acts
21:39as
21:39a
21:39western
21:40mercenary
21:40and
21:41the
21:41objective
21:41is
21:42to
21:42target
21:43India
21:43for
21:44a
21:44decade
21:44or
21:44so
21:44between
21:452012
21:46to
21:462022
21:47Pakistan
21:48lost
21:49the US
21:49favor
21:49so
21:50it
21:50courted
21:50China
21:51in
21:5122
21:52you
21:52had
21:52a
21:52military
21:53coup
21:53in
21:54Pakistan
21:54and
21:55it's
21:55again
21:56a
21:56vassal
21:57of
21:57the
21:57United
21:57States
21:58so
21:59Trump
21:59what
22:00does
22:00Trump
22:00seek
22:01Trump
22:01seeks
22:01to
22:01encircle
22:02India
22:03Trump
22:03seeks
22:03to
22:03contain
22:04India
22:04one
22:04of
22:05the
22:05best
22:05ways
22:05of
22:05doing
22:05it
22:05is
22:06to
22:06once
22:06again
22:07activate
22:07Pakistan
22:07so
22:08Trump
22:09has
22:09business
22:09interests
22:10of
22:10his
22:10own
22:10besides
22:11being
22:11a
22:11president
22:11he
22:11has
22:11a
22:12business
22:12empire
22:12and
22:12they
22:13are
22:13going
22:13full
22:14scale
22:14into
22:14crypto
22:15and
22:16it
22:16is
22:16very
22:17it's
22:17a
22:17coincidence
22:18apparently
22:18that
22:18Pakistani
22:19crypto
22:19sector
22:20also
22:20came
22:20up
22:20just
22:21after
22:21Trump
22:22showed
22:22interest
22:22in
22:23cryptocurrency
22:23there
22:24is
22:25that
22:25then
22:25Pakistan
22:26will
22:26be
22:26selling
22:27its
22:27oil
22:27and
22:27gas
22:28to
22:28the
22:28United
22:28States
22:29to
22:29Donald
22:30Trump
22:30because
22:30Trump's
22:31business
22:31empire
22:32will be
22:32investing
22:32in
22:32the
22:32oil
22:33and
22:33gas
22:33sector
22:33in
22:34Pakistan
22:34so
22:35whatever
22:35reserves
22:36they
22:36have
22:36they
22:36will
22:36sell
22:37them
22:38to
22:38the
22:38Americans
22:38at
22:38very
22:39good
22:39prices
22:39obviously
22:39then
22:40they
22:40have
22:40some
22:41reserves
22:41of
22:41rare
22:42earths
22:42and
22:42minerals
22:42and
22:43so
22:43on
22:43that
22:43also
22:44is
22:44all
22:44available
22:45when
22:45Mr.
22:45Asin
22:45Moolid
22:45went
22:46to
22:46the
22:47White
22:47House
22:47he
22:47came
22:48with
22:48a
22:48crate
22:50full
22:50of
22:50these
22:51fantastic
22:51goodies
22:52that
22:52Trump
22:52was
22:52very
22:52pleased
22:53to
22:53see
22:53so
22:54they
22:54are
22:54willing
22:54to
22:55sell
22:55off
22:55their
22:55nation
22:56piece
22:56by
22:56piece
22:56to
22:57the
22:57United
22:57States
22:57which
22:58is
22:58why
22:58they
22:58have
22:58an
22:58excellent
22:59relationship
22:59with
22:59the
23:00US
23:00so
23:00there
23:01will
23:01be
23:01commentators
23:01in
23:01India
23:01saying
23:02that
23:02look
23:02India
23:03is
23:03doing
23:04such
23:04a
23:04bad
23:04job
23:04of
23:04dealing
23:05with
23:05the
23:05US
23:05look
23:06at
23:06Pakistan
23:06look
23:07how
23:07favorably
23:07the
23:08US
23:08treats
23:08Pakistan
23:09well
23:09the
23:10US
23:10has
23:10certain
23:10conditions
23:11they
23:11will
23:11treat
23:12you
23:12favorably
23:12as
23:12long
23:13as
23:13you
23:13sell
23:13your
23:13country
23:14off
23:14piece
23:14by
23:14piece
23:15can
23:16we
23:16do
23:16that
23:16can
23:16we
23:16afford
23:17to
23:17do
23:17that
23:17we
23:17are
23:18a
23:18sovereign
23:18nation
23:18we
23:19are
23:19one
23:19of
23:19the
23:19five
23:20sovereign
23:20nations
23:20on
23:21the
23:21face
23:21of
23:21the
23:21planet
23:21and
23:22we
23:22cannot
23:22lose
23:23our
23:23sovereignty
23:24we
23:24can't
23:25compromise
23:25our
23:26strategic
23:26autonomy
23:26and
23:27that's
23:27why
23:28India
23:28is
23:29right
23:29now
23:29on
23:29the
23:30receiving
23:30end
23:30while
23:30Pakistan
23:31is
23:31receiving
23:32all
23:41when
23:42did
23:42it
23:43happen
23:44that
23:44the
23:44leader
23:45of
23:45a
23:46nation's
23:46military
23:46was
23:47received
23:48by
23:49Donald
23:49Trump
23:49in
23:49the
23:50Oval
23:50office
23:50I
23:51can't
23:52remember
23:52the
23:52last
23:52time
23:52that
23:52happened
23:53as
23:53if
23:53he
23:53is
23:53a
23:53head
23:53of
23:53state
23:54and
23:54Shahbaz
23:54Sharif
23:55is
23:55like
23:55a
23:55minion
23:56so
23:57that's
23:57the
23:57deal
23:57Pakistan
23:58is
23:58doing
23:58a
23:58good
23:58job
23:59because
23:59it's
23:59willing
23:59to
23:59sell
23:59its
23:59country
24:00and
24:00its
24:00resources
24:01it's
24:02willing
24:02to
24:02prioritize
24:03foreign
24:04interests
24:04over
24:04the
24:11of
24:11frequent
24:12strings
24:12of
24:13attack
24:13against
24:13Indian
24:14businessmen
24:14Adani
24:15and
24:15Ambani
24:15and
24:16all
24:16the
24:16big
24:16businessmen
24:17are
24:17being
24:17attacked
24:18it's
24:18a
24:18natural
24:18or
24:18organic
24:19criticism
24:20or
24:20do
24:20you
24:20think
24:20something
24:21there
24:21is
24:21something
24:22larger
24:22perspective
24:23here
24:23or
24:23something
24:24that
24:24meets
24:24more
24:25than
24:25the
24:25eye
24:25look
24:27for
24:27any
24:28country
24:28to
24:28do
24:28well
24:28you
24:29need
24:29private
24:30commercial
24:31activities
24:32to
24:32take
24:32the
24:33forefront
24:33the
24:34government
24:34the
24:35state
24:35cannot
24:36be
24:36expected
24:37to
24:37take
24:38care
24:38of
24:38all
24:38sectors
24:39and
24:39do
24:39development
24:39in
24:40all
24:40sectors
24:40you
24:41know
24:41you
24:41have
24:41the
24:41state
24:42backed
24:42enterprises
24:44public
24:45sector
24:45organizations
24:45you
24:46know
24:46PSUs
24:47and
24:47so on
24:47that
24:48typically
24:48in the
24:49socialist
24:50past
24:51of
24:51India
24:51used
24:52to
24:52take
24:52care
24:52of
24:52all
24:52the
24:52sectors
24:53coal
24:53mining
24:53this
24:54that
24:54electricity
24:54everything
24:55but
24:56when
24:56you
24:56are
24:57a
24:57government
24:57entity
24:57it's
24:59not
24:59your
24:59money
25:00that
25:00is
25:00at
25:00stake
25:00so
25:01you
25:01don't
25:01have
25:01that
25:01urgency
25:02for
25:03business
25:03efficiency
25:04and
25:04so
25:04on
25:04and
25:04that's
25:05why
25:05it's
25:05very
25:05important
25:05for
25:05the
25:06private
25:06sector
25:06to
25:07become
25:07Atmanirbhar
25:08for
25:08Atmanirbhar
25:08Bharat
25:09and
25:10the
25:10private
25:10sector
25:11you
25:11know
25:11it
25:12typically
25:12is
25:12far
25:13more
25:13efficient
25:13in
25:14doing
25:14business
25:14than
25:15the
25:15public
25:15sector
25:16and
25:16it
25:17has
25:18the
25:18potential
25:18to
25:18give
25:19tremendous
25:19numbers
25:20of
25:20jobs
25:20to
25:20people
25:20to
25:21create
25:21infrastructure
25:21to
25:22create
25:22interconnectivity
25:23and
25:23so
25:23much
25:23more
25:23so
25:24it
25:25therefore
25:26if
25:26a
25:27foreign
25:27country
25:27wants
25:29to
25:29contain
25:30you
25:30it
25:31makes
25:34industries
25:36or
25:36the
25:36few
25:37corporations
25:37that
25:38are
25:38aligned
25:39with
25:39your
25:39national
25:39interest
25:40and
25:40are
25:40creating
25:40infrastructure
25:41and
25:42jobs
25:42that
25:43will
25:43bolster
25:43your
25:43economy
25:44and
25:44also
25:44bolster
25:45national
25:45security
25:46interconnectivity
25:47and
25:47so
25:47much
25:47more
25:48strategic
25:48autonomy
25:48and
25:49therefore
25:49it
25:50is
25:50not
25:50surprising
25:51that
25:51Adani
25:51etc
25:52have
25:52been
25:52targeted
25:53in
25:53whatever
25:53way
25:53they
25:54have
25:54been
25:54and
25:55is
25:55this
25:55all
25:56organic
25:56it
25:58definitely
25:58is
25:58not
25:59organic
25:59right
25:59because
26:00otherwise
26:00they
26:00would
26:01target
26:01other
26:01industries
26:01also
26:02why
26:02is
26:02Tata
26:03not
26:03targeted
26:03for
26:03example
26:04Tata
26:04sells
26:05automobiles
26:05Tata
26:06does
26:06other
26:06things
26:06as
26:06well
26:06why
26:07are
26:07the
26:08Tata
26:08group
26:08not
26:09targeted
26:09why
26:10are
26:11certain
26:11other
26:11businesses
26:12not
26:12targeted
26:12why
26:12are
26:12Birla
26:13Mahindra
26:13etc
26:14not
26:14targeted
26:14but
26:15only
26:15some
26:15of
26:15them
26:15are
26:15targeted
26:16it's
26:16because
26:17they
26:17are
26:17aligned
26:17with
26:18India
26:18national
26:18interest
26:19in
26:20which
26:20we
26:20can
26:20discuss
26:21in
26:21detail
26:21so
26:21it's
26:22definitely
26:22not
26:22organic
26:23you
26:23will
26:23have
26:23lots
26:23of
26:24influencers
26:25in
26:25India
26:25targeting
26:26for
26:26example
26:27Adani
26:27etc
26:30they
26:30create
26:30the
26:31narrative
26:31you
26:32will
26:32have
26:32lots
26:32of
26:32journalists
26:33and
26:34media
26:35outlets
26:35targeting
26:36these
26:36entities
26:37you
26:37will
26:38have
26:38academics
26:39targeting
26:40them
26:40you
26:40will
26:40have
26:41potentially
26:41perhaps
26:42some
26:42politicians
26:42in
26:42India
26:43targeting
26:43them
26:43it's
26:45definitely
26:45not
26:46organic
26:46it
26:47is
26:47all
26:47orchestrated
26:48it
26:48is
26:48all
26:48definitely
26:49coordinated
26:50in
26:50order
26:50to
26:51erode
26:52the
26:52public's
26:53trust
26:53in
26:54these
26:55commercial
26:56ventures
26:57and
26:57corporations
26:58that are
26:59aligned with
27:00the
27:00national
27:00interest
27:00and
27:01how do
27:01you
27:01see
27:01USA
27:01case
27:02bribery
27:02case
27:02against
27:03Adani
27:03the
27:04Adani
27:04group
27:04has
27:04called
27:05all
27:05the
27:05allegations
27:05against
27:06them
27:06baseless
27:07but
27:07it
27:08seems
27:08to
27:08be
27:08sticking
27:09with
27:09some
27:09of
27:09the
27:10population
27:10of
27:10India
27:11and
27:11you
27:11know
27:12criticism
27:12comes
27:13from
27:13that
27:13side
27:14that
27:14Adani
27:14pays
27:14to
27:14the
27:15central
27:15government
27:15and
27:15get
27:16central
27:16projects
27:17airports
27:17sports
27:18everything
27:18is
27:19being
27:19handled
27:19to
27:23case
27:24in
27:24detail
27:24there
27:25have
27:25been
27:25allegations
27:25against
27:26the
27:26Adani
27:26group
27:26right
27:27there
27:27was
27:27the
27:28Hindenburg
27:28allegations
27:28I think
27:29it was
27:29in early
27:302023
27:30and
27:31then
27:31there
27:31was
27:31a US
27:32federal
27:33court
27:33that
27:33opened
27:34the
27:35case
27:35against
27:35Adani
27:35sometime
27:36late
27:36in
27:372024
27:37so
27:38the
27:38Hindenburg
27:38group
27:39which
27:40later
27:40disappeared
27:41shut
27:42down
27:42because
27:43their job
27:43was done
27:44apparently
27:44so
27:45their
27:46allegations
27:46were
27:46of
27:46stock
27:47manipulation
27:47crony
27:48capitalism
27:48whatever
27:48that
27:48means
27:49and
27:50the
27:50US
27:50federal
27:50court
27:50has
27:51alleged
27:51that
27:51Adani
27:52group
27:52is
27:52bribing
27:53the
27:53government
27:53of
27:53India
27:53millions
27:54of
27:54dollars
27:54for
27:55whatever
27:56benefits
27:57and so
27:57on
27:57now
27:57let
27:59so
27:59the
27:59security
28:00and
28:00exchanges
28:00board
28:00of
28:01India
28:01has
28:01done
28:02an
28:02investigation
28:02I
28:03think
28:03just
28:03last
28:03month
28:04or
28:04so
28:04they
28:04said
28:05that
28:05none
28:05of
28:05the
28:06allegations
28:06are
28:06apparently
28:09some
28:09other
28:09investigations
28:10are still
28:11ongoing
28:11but
28:11the
28:11clean
28:12treat
28:12has
28:12been
28:12given
28:12after
28:12extensive
28:13investigations
28:14Now
28:15the
28:15question
28:15is
28:15why
28:15is
28:16Adani
28:16in
28:16specific
28:21India
28:21Adani
28:23has
28:23the
28:24Adani
28:24group
28:24has
28:24various
28:25businesses
28:25most
28:26of
28:26the
28:26overwhelming
28:27majority
28:27of
28:28which
28:28are
28:28not
28:28public
28:29facing
28:29right
28:30see
28:31in
28:31case
28:32if
28:32you
28:33ask
28:33the
28:34people
28:34of
28:34India
28:34about
28:34Tata
28:35they
28:35know
28:35Tata
28:35motors
28:36we
28:36buy
28:36car
28:36from
28:37them
28:37so
28:37we
28:37know
28:37what
28:37Tata
28:38does
28:38if
28:39you
28:39think
28:39about
28:39Reliance
28:39Jio
28:40yeah
28:41we
28:41buy
28:41Jio
28:41products
28:41from
28:42Reliance
28:42if
28:43you
28:43think
28:43about
28:43Apple
28:44oh
28:44we
28:44have
28:44a
28:44cell
28:51me
28:51explain
28:51what
28:51Adani
28:52does
28:52okay
28:53Adani
28:54the
28:54Adani
28:54group
28:55is
28:55involved
28:56in
28:56various
28:56sectors
28:56which
28:57are
28:57all
28:57critical
28:57to
28:58India's
28:58national
28:58security
28:59and
28:59geopolitical
29:00stance
29:01and
29:01ambitions
29:02first
29:02of
29:02all
29:02ports
29:03the
29:04Adani
29:05group
29:05operates
29:05at
29:06least
29:0613
29:06ports
29:07on
29:08both
29:08coastlines
29:08of
29:09India
29:09the
29:09east
29:09coast
29:09and
29:09west
29:10coast
29:10and
29:11these
29:11ports
29:11cumulatively
29:12account
29:13for
29:13about
29:13a
29:13quarter
29:14of
29:14India's
29:15cargo
29:15a
29:16quarter
29:17of
29:17India's
29:17cargo
29:17and
29:18because
29:19Adani
29:20group
29:20it's
29:20the
29:20largest
29:20private
29:21port
29:21operator
29:22in
29:22India
29:22and
29:23this
29:24gives
29:24India
29:24tremendous
29:25leverage
29:26it
29:26ensures
29:27that
29:27India's
29:28national
29:28security
29:28maritime
29:29security
29:29is
29:29taken
29:29care
29:30of
29:30it
29:30ensure
29:31that
29:31India
29:31is
29:31integrated
29:32with
29:32various
29:32trade
29:33routes
29:33the
29:34Mundra
29:34port
29:34it
29:35gets
29:36more
29:36than
29:36200
29:37million
29:38metric
29:38tons
29:39every
29:39year
29:39of
29:40cargo
29:40inward
29:41and
29:41out
29:41bound
29:41it
29:42ensures
29:43that
29:43India
29:43is
29:43connected
29:45to
29:45the
29:45West
29:46Asian
29:46Middle
29:46Eastern
29:47markets
29:47and
29:47India
29:48also
29:48has
29:48tremendous
29:49connection
29:50with
29:50the
29:50African
29:51markets
29:51and
29:51African
29:52resources
29:52it
29:53is
29:53vital
29:53for
29:54India's
29:54national
29:54security
29:55the
29:55port
29:55operations
29:56the
29:56Haifa
29:57port
29:57that
29:57Adani
29:57operates
29:58it
29:58is
29:58in
29:59the
29:59northern
29:59part
30:00of
30:00Israel
30:00that
30:01has
30:02ensured
30:02that
30:02there
30:02is
30:03a
30:03strategic
30:04synergy
30:05between
30:05India
30:05and
30:05Israel
30:06it
30:06gives
30:07India
30:07the
30:08ability
30:09to
30:11project
30:12power
30:12beyond
30:13the
30:13Indian
30:13Ocean
30:14region
30:14in
30:14the
30:15Mediterranean
30:15region
30:15the
30:16Eastern
30:16Mediterranean
30:16and
30:16overall
30:17Mediterranean
30:17region
30:18it is
30:20a vital
30:21component
30:21of the
30:21IMEC
30:22India
30:22Middle East
30:23Europe
30:23Economic
30:24Corridor
30:25which is
30:25a vital
30:26challenger
30:27to China's
30:27belt and
30:28road
30:28initiative
30:29right
30:29a vital
30:30alternative to
30:31China's
30:32belt and
30:32road
30:32initiative
30:32without
30:33the
30:33Haifa
30:34port
30:34that Adani
30:34controls
30:35how will
30:35we do
30:36it
30:36the
30:37Adani
30:37group
30:37controls
30:38about
30:3851%
30:39of
30:39the
30:40West
30:40container
30:41terminal
30:42of
30:42the
30:42Colombo
30:43port
30:43which
30:44is
30:44an
30:44incredibly
30:45vital
30:45transshipment
30:47port
30:47that
30:48serves
30:48the
30:48entire
30:48Indian
30:49subcontinent
30:49not
30:50just
30:50India
30:50but
30:50Pakistan
30:51Bangladesh
30:51etc
30:51and
30:52this
30:53is
30:53a
30:53direct
30:53alternative
30:54to
30:54the
30:55Chinese
30:55investments
30:56and
30:56the
30:56Chinese
30:57acquisitions
30:57of
30:57other
30:58container
30:58terminals
30:58in
30:59the
30:59same
30:59port
30:59imagine
31:00China
31:00controls
31:01the
31:01entire
31:01ports
31:02or
31:02the
31:02terminals
31:02they
31:03can
31:03deny
31:03access
31:03to
31:06whenever
31:06required
31:07right
31:08so
31:08we
31:08need
31:08these
31:08alternatives
31:09we
31:09need
31:09to
31:09control
31:09these
31:10things
31:10the
31:10Dar es Salaam
31:11port
31:11in
31:12Tanzania
31:12Adani
31:14group
31:14controls
31:15the
31:16major
31:16container
31:17terminal
31:17of
31:17the
31:18Dar es Salaam
31:18port
31:18in
31:18Tanzania
31:19this
31:20is
31:20a
31:20pivotal
31:21port
31:23in
31:24East
31:24Africa
31:25it
31:25has
31:26connectivity
31:26with
31:27all
31:27the
31:27landlocked
31:28nations
31:29like
31:29Congo
31:30Rwanda
31:30etc
31:31in the
31:31region
31:31through
31:32roads
31:32through
31:33railways
31:33and
31:34it
31:34gives
31:34India
31:35access
31:35to
31:35the
31:35African
31:36markets
31:36and
31:36the
31:37vital
31:37African
31:37resources
31:38that
31:38we
31:38need
31:38Africa
31:39accounts
31:40for
31:40about
31:40half
31:40of
31:40the
31:41world
31:41resources
31:41we
31:42need
31:42access
31:42to
31:42that
31:43and
31:43this
31:43is
31:43a
31:43region
31:44in
31:44which
31:44China
31:44has
31:45tremendous
31:45geopolitical
31:46leverage
31:46we
31:47need
31:47to
31:47balance
31:48that
31:48somehow
31:49and
31:49we
31:49need
31:49to
31:49also
31:49have
31:50a
31:50foothold
31:50in
31:51these
31:51regions
31:51so
31:52if
31:52you
31:52look
31:53at
31:53all
31:53the
31:53ports
31:53the
31:54Adani
31:54group
31:55is
31:55going
31:55to
31:55have
31:55a
31:55port
31:55in
31:56Vietnam
31:56as
31:57well
31:57which
31:57will
31:57give
31:58India
31:59a
31:59strategic
32:00position
32:00in
32:01Southeast
32:01Asia
32:01in
32:01the
32:02South
32:02China
32:02Sea
32:02where
32:02China
32:03controls
32:03so
32:04much
32:04and
32:05they
32:05want
32:05complete
32:05geopolitical
32:06control
32:07in
32:07the
32:07region
32:07so
32:08we
32:09have
32:09talked
32:09about
32:09the
32:10ports
32:10what
32:10about
32:11energy
32:11Adani
32:12group
32:12is
32:12operating
32:14various
32:15thermal
32:16energy
32:16generation
32:17plants
32:17in
32:17India
32:18cool
32:18fire
32:18generation
32:19plants
32:19it's
32:20India's
32:20largest
32:21private
32:21energy
32:22generator
32:23without
32:24energy
32:25your
32:25economy
32:25won't
32:26run
32:26right
32:27so
32:27we
32:27need
32:27energy
32:28we
32:28need
32:28private
32:29players
32:29to
32:29step
32:29up
32:30the
32:30Adani
32:31green
32:31branch
32:33of
32:33the
32:33Adani
32:34power
32:34they
32:35are
32:36India's
32:36largest
32:37alternative
32:37energy
32:39producers
32:40you know
32:40solar
32:41and wind
32:42and so
32:42on
32:42Kavda
32:42is one
32:43of the
32:43major
32:44projects
32:45that they
32:45are doing
32:45so
32:46that
32:46not only
32:47gives
32:47us
32:48energy
32:48that
32:49is
32:49which
32:50will
32:50be
32:50increasing
32:50and
32:50more
32:51relevant
32:51in
32:51the
32:51long
32:52term
32:52it
32:53also
32:53positions
32:53India
32:54as
32:54responsible
32:55generator
32:56of
32:56energy
32:56it
32:57also
32:57because
32:57of
32:58the
32:58climate
32:58commitments
32:58that
32:59we
32:59have
32:59made
32:59and
33:00it
33:00positions
33:01us
33:01as
33:01a
33:02very
33:02responsible
33:02nation
33:03it
33:03bolsters
33:03our
33:04soft
33:04power
33:04so
33:05through
33:05the
33:05coal
33:05generation
33:06plants
33:06power
33:06generation
33:07plants
33:07Adani
33:08group
33:08is
33:08taking care
33:09of
33:09our
33:09immediate
33:10energy
33:10requirements
33:11through
33:11the
33:11green
33:11energy
33:12plants
33:12we
33:12are
33:12taking
33:12care
33:13of
33:13long
33:13term
33:13energy
33:14requirements
33:14right
33:15the
33:16Adani
33:17group
33:17is
33:17building
33:17railways
33:18hundreds
33:18of
33:18kilometers
33:19of
33:19railways
33:19that
33:20connect
33:20very
33:21important
33:22things
33:22the
33:22ports
33:23the
33:23mines
33:24and
33:24the
33:24business
33:24centers
33:25which
33:26increases
33:26economic
33:27efficiency
33:27in
33:27India
33:28right
33:28so
33:29whatever
33:30the
33:30Adani
33:30group
33:30is
33:30doing
33:30for
33:31example
33:31mines
33:32once
33:32again
33:32we're
33:32talking
33:32about
33:32in
33:33Australia
33:33they
33:34have
33:34the
33:34Carmichael
33:34mine
33:35which
33:35faced
33:36tremendous
33:37resistance
33:37protests
33:38I mean
33:39the
33:39Chappell
33:40brothers
33:40got involved
33:41in
33:41the
33:41protests
33:41you
33:41know
33:41Greg
33:42Chappell
33:43and
33:43Ian
33:43Chappell
33:43Greg
33:44Chappell
33:44the
33:44infamous
33:45former
33:45coach
33:46of
33:46the
33:46Indian
33:46national
33:46team
33:47who
33:47created
33:47so
33:47much
33:48trouble
33:48for
33:48India
33:48so
33:49they
33:49got
33:49involved
33:49in
33:50this
33:50protest
33:50and
33:50they
33:50wanted
33:51to
33:51shut
33:51this
33:51mining
33:52operation
33:52down
33:52so
33:53but
33:54by
33:54doing
33:55this
33:56mining
33:56operation
33:56we
33:57are
33:57strategically
33:58integrating
33:58ourselves
33:59with
33:59the
33:59Australian
33:59economy
34:00which
34:00is
34:00great
34:01for
34:01the
34:01two
34:01nations
34:01the
34:03Adani
34:04group
34:04has
34:04a
34:05power
34:05generation
34:05plant
34:05in
34:06Jharkhand
34:06which
34:07supplies
34:07about
34:0710%
34:08of
34:08Bangladesh's
34:09electricity
34:09which
34:11integrates
34:11creates
34:12interoperability
34:13between
34:13the
34:13two
34:13countries
34:14which
34:14integrates
34:14Bangladesh
34:15into
34:15the
34:15Indian
34:15economics
34:16into
34:16the
34:17Indian
34:17economic
34:17electric
34:18supply
34:18which
34:18also
34:19gives
34:19India
34:19leverage
34:20over
34:20Bangladesh
34:21hydroelectric
34:22plants
34:22in
34:23Bhutan
34:23and
34:23Nepal
34:23these
34:24are
34:24viable
34:25alternatives
34:25to
34:26existing
34:26and
34:26future
34:27Chinese
34:27investments
34:28in
34:28these
34:28nations
34:28China
34:29wants
34:29to
34:29break
34:29out
34:29these
34:30nations
34:30from
34:30the
34:30Indian
34:31sphere
34:32so
34:32if
34:33we
34:33have
34:33these
34:34investments
34:35in
34:35these
34:35countries
34:36which
34:36will
34:36produce
34:37electricity
34:39and
34:39give
34:40them
34:40local
34:40solutions
34:41to
34:41their
34:41problems
34:42then
34:42it
34:42once
34:43again
34:43creates
34:43interoperability
34:44with
34:44India
34:44it
34:45enhances
34:45our
34:46neighborhood
34:47first
34:47policy
34:48which
34:48is
34:48a
34:48vital
34:49component
34:49of
34:49our
34:49foreign
34:50policy
34:50and
34:51the
34:51plants
34:51for
34:52example
34:52hydroelectric
34:53power
34:54supply
34:54projects
34:55in
34:55for
34:56example
34:56Indonesia
34:57in
34:57Vietnam
34:58which
34:58may
34:58happen
34:58in
34:58the
34:59future
34:59these
35:00will
35:00once
35:00again
35:00be
35:01a
35:01significant
35:02component
35:02of
35:02our
35:03act
35:03east
35:03policy
35:04so
35:05if
35:05you
35:05look
35:05at
35:05everything
35:06the
35:06Adani
35:06group
35:06is
35:07doing
35:07it
35:07is
35:08strategically
35:08aligned
35:09with
35:09India
35:09strategic
35:10interests
35:10with
35:11our
35:11national
35:11security
35:12the
35:12Adani
35:13group
35:13produces
35:13arms
35:14ammunition
35:15weapons
35:16more than
35:17150
35:17million
35:18rounds
35:19of
35:19small
35:20arms
35:20ammunition
35:21which
35:21is
35:21critical
35:22to
35:22our
35:22defense
35:22industry
35:23the
35:23Adani
35:23group
35:24produces
35:24loitering
35:25munitions
35:26kamikaze
35:27drones
35:27which
35:27were
35:27used
35:28in
35:28operation
35:28Sindur
35:29in
35:29cooperation
35:30with
35:30Israel
35:30in
35:31partnership
35:31with
35:32an
35:32Israeli
35:32company
35:32because
35:34of
35:34which
35:35we
35:35have
35:35technology
35:35transfer
35:36because
35:36of
35:36which
35:36we
35:36have
35:37local
35:37arms
35:37manufacturing
35:38in
35:38India
35:38the
35:39Adani
35:39group
35:39produces
35:40components
35:41related to
35:42fighter planes
35:43to
35:43helicopters
35:43to
35:44submarine
35:44so much
35:44more
35:44these
35:45things
35:46none
35:46of
35:46these
35:47things
35:47are
35:47public
35:47facing
35:48why
35:48do
35:48you
35:49think
35:49these
35:49two
35:49big
35:49business
35:50man
35:50continue
35:50to
35:51be
35:51the
35:51punching
35:51bag
35:51of
35:52the
35:52leader
35:52of
35:52opposition
35:52I
35:53don't
35:53know
35:53about
35:54the
35:54leader
35:54of
35:54opposition
35:55but
35:55they
35:55are
35:55all
35:55the
35:55political
35:56parties
35:56continue
35:57with
35:57at
35:57the
35:58end
35:58of
35:58the
35:58day
35:58it
35:59is
35:59being
35:59said
35:59everything
36:00has
36:00been
36:00given
36:00to
36:00them
36:00you
36:01have
36:01justified
36:01everything
36:02explained
36:02everything
36:03why
36:03they
36:03are
36:03so
36:04critical
36:04to
36:04India's
36:05growth
36:05but
36:05why
36:05are
36:06both
36:07of
36:07them
36:07are
36:07the
36:07punching
36:07bag
36:08why
36:08not
36:08others
36:08so
36:09if
36:09we
36:09let's
36:10say
36:10create
36:11problems
36:11for
36:12these
36:12groups
36:12and
36:13if
36:13their
36:14business
36:14operations
36:14end
36:15then
36:16India
36:17loses
36:17all
36:17disadvantages
36:18it
36:18has
36:19India
36:19national
36:20security
36:20suffers
36:21tremendously
36:22India
36:22control
36:23of
36:23critical
36:24trade
36:25networks
36:26supply
36:26chains
36:27suffers
36:27and
36:28maybe
36:28it
36:28disappears
36:29India
36:30port
36:30acquisitions
36:31go
36:32away
36:32and
36:32then
36:32we
36:33are
36:33completely
36:33vulnerable
36:34to
36:34the
36:35Chinese
36:35and
36:36other
36:36major
36:36powers
36:37who
36:37will
36:38supply
36:38us
36:38what
36:39we
36:39need
36:39but
36:40on
36:40their
36:40terms
36:40and
36:41the
36:41supply
36:41will
36:42be
36:42capricious
36:42so
36:44if
36:45the
36:45Adani
36:45group
36:45is
36:46you
36:46know
36:46destabilized
36:48if
36:48all
36:49kinds
36:49of
36:49troubles
36:49are
36:50created
36:50for
36:50it
36:50then
36:50India's
36:51strategic
36:52autonomy
36:53suffers
36:53India's
36:54economy
36:54suffers
36:55India's
36:55national
36:56security
36:56suffers
36:56and
36:57these
36:57are
36:57the
36:58objectives
36:58of
36:58foreign
36:59powers
36:59who
36:59seek
36:59to
37:00encircle
37:00and
37:01contain
37:01India
37:01so
37:02it
37:02makes
37:02tremendous
37:02sense
37:03to
37:03go
37:04after
37:04these
37:04whichever
37:05businesses
37:05are
37:06aligned
37:06with
37:06our
37:07national
37:07interest
37:07so
37:08it
37:08makes
37:08a lot
37:08of
37:08sense
37:09I
37:09am
37:09not
37:09sure
37:09about
37:10what's
37:10happening
37:10in
37:10domestic
37:11politics
37:11I
37:16hypothetically
37:17allegedly
37:17okay
37:18you
37:18just
37:18mentioned
37:18China
37:19Prime
37:19Minister
37:19Modi
37:20visited
37:20China
37:21and
37:21met
37:21Xi
37:21Jinping
37:22there
37:22a lot
37:23of
37:23criticism
37:23is
37:24coming
37:24that
37:24one
37:25should
37:25never
37:25trust
37:26China
37:26looking at
37:26the
37:26history
37:27we
37:27have
37:27had
37:27New
37:28Delhi
37:28and
37:28Beijing
37:29the
37:29history
37:29that
37:29we
37:29share
37:30China
37:30is
37:30not
37:31someone
37:31you
37:31can
37:31trust
37:32they
37:32are
37:32always
37:32going
37:32to
37:33backstab
37:33you
37:33they
37:33are
37:33always
37:34going
37:34to
37:34kill
37:35you
37:35in
37:35a
37:35sense
37:36at
37:36the
37:36border
37:36they
37:37would
37:37do
37:37anything
37:37to
37:38encroach
37:38your
37:38land
37:38how
37:39should
37:39India
37:39deal
37:40with
37:40it
37:40in
37:40the
37:41entire
37:41fiasco
37:42with
37:42Trump
37:42and
37:43United
37:43States
37:43it
37:44seems
37:44so
37:44that
37:45China
37:45in
37:46New
37:46Delhi
37:46is
37:46moving
37:46towards
37:47China
37:47is
37:47it
37:47a
37:48good
37:48thing
37:48or
37:48bad
37:48thing
37:49so
37:49the
37:49criticism
37:50seems
37:50to
37:50be
37:50that
37:50India
37:50is
37:51trusting
37:51China
37:51is
37:52India
37:52trusting
37:53China
37:53is
37:53the
37:53question
37:54I
37:54would
37:54like
37:54to
37:54ask
37:55you
37:56can't
37:57trust
37:57anybody
37:57in
37:58geopolitics
37:58even
37:59your
38:07wherever
38:07my
38:07national
38:08interest
38:08aligns
38:09with
38:10another
38:10country's
38:11certain
38:12national
38:12interests
38:12in
38:13those
38:13matters
38:14in
38:14those
38:14sectors
38:15we
38:15can
38:15cooperate
38:15but
38:17if
38:17you
38:17look
38:17at
38:18the
38:18track
38:18record
38:18of
38:18China
38:19it
38:19seeks
38:20it's
38:20an
38:20adversary
38:21of
38:21India
38:21we
38:22know
38:22that
38:22very
38:22well
38:22we
38:22have
38:22gone
38:22to
38:23war
38:23with
38:23them
38:231962
38:24we
38:24had
38:24a
38:24war
38:24in
38:251967
38:25we
38:25had
38:25clashes
38:26in
38:261987
38:26the
38:27last
38:2710
38:27years
38:27we
38:28had
38:28more
38:28clashes
38:282020
38:30also
38:31Galwan
38:37would
38:37like
38:37to
38:37see
38:37India
38:38be
38:38fragmented
38:39balkanized
38:39so
38:40we
38:40know
38:40exactly
38:41what
38:41China
38:41seeks
38:42to
38:42do
38:42first
38:43of
38:43all
38:43we
38:43have
38:43to
38:44understand
38:44the
38:45nature
38:45of
38:45the
38:45nation
38:46what
38:47is
38:47China
38:48and
38:48what
38:48does
38:48it
38:48seek
38:49what
38:50are
38:50its
38:50ambitions
38:51China's
38:52ambition
38:52is
38:52to
38:53replace
38:54and
38:54displace
38:54the
38:54United
38:55States
38:55as
38:56the
38:56global
38:56superpower
38:57by
38:57about
38:582050
38:58and
38:59it
38:59can't
38:59do
39:00that
39:00as
39:00long
39:00as
39:01there
39:01is
39:01another
39:01major
39:02power
39:02in
39:02Asia
39:03right
39:03so
39:04it
39:04would
39:04like
39:04to
39:05undermine
39:05India
39:05I
39:06don't
39:06think
39:07Mr.
39:07Modi
39:07is
39:07at
39:08all
39:08trusting
39:08China
39:09you
39:10have
39:10to
39:10deal
39:10with
39:11your
39:11adversaries
39:12also
39:13I
39:13mean
39:13look
39:14at
39:14the
39:14US
39:15and
39:15China
39:15they
39:15are
39:15always
39:16communicating
39:17they
39:17have
39:18summit
39:18meetings
39:19from
39:19time
39:19to
39:19time
39:20despite
39:20being
39:21at
39:21loggerheads
39:21look
39:23at
39:23Pakistan
39:23and
39:24China
39:24even
39:25now
39:25that
39:25Pakistan
39:26is
39:26completely
39:27in
39:27the
39:27US
39:27camp
39:28the
39:28Chinese
39:28and
39:28Pakistan
39:29are
39:29still
39:29talking
39:29Shahbaz
39:30Sharif
39:30still
39:30goes
39:31to
39:31the
39:31Stanghai
39:32Cooperation
39:32summit
39:32you
39:33have
39:34to
39:34be
39:34practical
39:35and
39:35pragmatic
39:35in
39:35geopolitics
39:36China
39:37is
39:37a
39:37long
39:38term
39:38adversary
39:38as
39:39long
39:39as
39:39the
39:39Tibet
39:40region
39:41is
39:41under
39:41Chinese
39:42control
39:42India
39:43and
39:43China
39:43will
39:43never
39:43have
39:44long
39:44lasting
39:45peace
39:45Tibet
39:46was
39:46historically
39:46never
39:47part
39:47of
39:47China
39:47right
39:48now
39:48it
39:48is
39:48under
39:48Chinese
39:49occupation
39:49which
39:50is
39:50why
39:50for
39:50the
39:50first
39:50time
39:51in
39:512000
39:51years
39:52we
39:52have
39:52a
39:52common
39:52border
39:53between
39:53India
39:53and
39:53Chinese
39:54occupied
39:54territory
39:54and
39:55that
39:55is
39:55the
39:55issue
39:56the
39:56Chinese
39:56don't
39:56want
39:56to
39:57resolve
39:57the
39:58undemarcated
39:58border
39:59issue
39:59the
39:59India
39:59Tibet
40:00border
40:00and
40:00that
40:00is
40:00the
40:00root
40:01cause
40:01of
40:01all
40:01the
40:01problems
40:01right
40:02so
40:03right
40:03now
40:03why
40:03are
40:04India
40:04and
40:04China
40:04seeming
40:05to
40:05align
40:06to
40:06some
40:06extent
40:06why
40:07is
40:07that
40:07because
40:07both
40:08are
40:08facing
40:08tremendous
40:09pressure
40:09from
40:09a
40:09much
40:09more
40:10powerful
40:10nation
40:10which
40:11is
40:11the
40:11US
40:11the
40:12US
40:12has
40:12gone
40:12all
40:13out
40:13against
40:13China
40:14tremendous
40:14tariffs
40:15have been
40:15imposed
40:15on
40:16China
40:16the
40:17US
40:17used
40:18to
40:18export
40:18semiconductors
40:19and
40:19chips
40:19and
40:19whatnot
40:20to
40:20China
40:20they
40:20have
40:21imposed
40:21massive
40:21restrictions
40:22on
40:22that
40:22right
40:23and
40:23so
40:24much
40:24more
40:24so
40:25the
40:25US
40:25is
40:25going
40:26all
40:26out
40:26against
40:26China
40:27the
40:27US
40:27is
40:27going
40:27all
40:27out
40:28against
40:28Russia
40:28and
40:28now
40:29India
40:29also
40:30it
40:30makes
40:31sense
40:31for
40:31the
40:31three
40:31nations
40:31at
40:32the
40:32receiving
40:32end
40:32to
40:33kind
40:33of
40:33find
40:34some
40:34common
40:34ground
40:35India
40:35Russia
40:36tremendous
40:36common
40:36ground
40:37India
40:37and
40:37Russia
40:37have
40:38no
40:38rivalry
40:38no
40:39issues
40:39where
40:40we
40:40have
40:40disagreements
40:41major
40:41issues
40:41and so
40:42on
40:42India
40:42and
40:42China
40:43almost
40:43everything
40:43is
40:43a
40:43disagreement
40:44but
40:44maybe
40:45we
40:45can
40:45cooperate
40:45in
40:46some
40:46ways
40:46the
40:46Chinese
40:47recently
40:47imposed
40:48sanctions
40:48that
40:48people
40:49don't
40:49know
40:49of
40:49on
40:51India
40:52so
40:52they
40:52are
40:53playing
40:53a
40:53double
40:53game
40:53on
40:53the
40:53one
40:54hand
40:54we
40:54meet
40:54and
40:54we
40:54talk
40:54and
40:55the
40:55they
40:55are
40:55stabbing
40:56us
40:56like
40:56that
40:56it's
40:57not
40:57like
40:58we
40:58are
40:58not
40:58aware
40:58of
40:59it
40:59Mr
40:59Modi
40:59is
41:00not
41:00a
41:00new
41:00player
41:01in
41:01the
41:01game
41:01of
41:01geopolitics
41:02he
41:02understands
41:02exactly
41:03what's
41:03happening
41:03but
41:04we
41:04have
41:04to
41:05talk
41:05to
41:05our
41:05adversaries
41:06also
41:06we
41:06have
41:06to
41:06try
41:07and
41:07find
41:07a
41:07way
41:08to
41:08maybe
41:09establish
41:10some
41:10common
41:10ground
41:11in
41:11some
41:11places
41:12and
41:12maybe
41:13take
41:13the
41:13relationship
41:13forward
41:13maybe
41:14put
41:14the
41:14rivalry
41:15on
41:15hold
41:15for
41:15about
41:16a
41:16decade
41:16or
41:16so
41:16etc
41:17so
41:18it
41:18is
41:18not
41:19that
41:19we
41:19are
41:19blindly
41:19trusting
41:20China
41:20we
41:21are
41:21cautiously
41:21seeking
41:22the
41:23way
41:23forward
41:23and
41:23that
41:24is
41:24the
41:24right
41:24thing
41:24to
41:24do
41:25you
41:26just
41:26mentioned
41:27that
41:27China
41:27wants
41:27to
41:28surpass
41:28and
41:28become
41:29the
41:29superpower
41:29by
41:29the
41:30end
41:30of
41:302050
41:31but
41:31some
41:32US
41:32lawmakers
41:32think
41:33and
41:33they
41:33are
41:34telling
41:34people
41:34that
41:34China
41:35has
41:35already
41:35surpassed
41:36USA
41:36and
41:36they
41:37are
41:37already
41:37number
41:37one
41:37as
41:38far
41:38as
41:38chips
41:38are
41:39concerned
41:39manufacturing
41:40are
41:40concerned
41:40exports
41:41are
41:41concerned
41:41they
41:42are
41:42number
41:42one
41:43do
41:43you
41:43think
41:43they
41:43are
41:44number
41:44one
41:44right
41:44now
41:44no
41:45let
41:45me
41:45tell
41:45you
41:45why
41:45see
41:46the
41:47number
41:47one
41:47status
41:48is
41:48not
41:48based
41:49on
41:49one
41:49or
41:50two
41:50indicators
41:50it's
41:51based
41:51on
41:51cumulative
41:52hard
41:53power
41:53what
41:53is
41:54cumulative
41:54hard
41:54power
41:54what
41:55are
41:55the
41:55components
41:56of
41:56cumulative
41:56hard
41:56power
41:57one
41:57is
41:57economic
41:58power
41:58China
41:59could
41:59potentially
42:00from
42:00some
42:01measures
42:01be
42:01ahead
42:01of
42:01the
42:01US
42:02purchasing
42:02power
42:03parity
42:03etc
42:03PVP
42:04so
42:05that's
42:05economic
42:05power
42:05secondly
42:06military
42:07power
42:07military
42:08power
42:08you can
42:09calculate
42:09by
42:09assessing
42:10how much
42:11does
42:12each
42:12country
42:12spend
42:13on
42:13defense
42:14per
42:14year
42:14the
42:15US
42:15spends
42:16about
42:16800
42:16900
42:16billion
42:18dollars
42:18per
42:18year
42:18China
42:19about
42:19200
42:20300
42:20billion
42:20dollars
42:21so
42:21China
42:21is
42:21lower
42:21than
42:22the
42:22US
42:22thirdly
42:23what's
42:24your
42:24population
42:24what's
42:25your
42:25land
42:25area
42:25China
42:26has
42:26larger
42:27population
42:27than
42:27the
42:27US
42:27way
42:28larger
42:28similar
42:29land
42:29area
42:29slightly
42:30less
42:30than
42:30the
42:30US
42:30next
42:31nuclear
42:32weapons
42:32the
42:32US
42:33dominates
42:33China
42:33nuclear
42:34weapons
42:34number
42:34of
42:35nuclear
42:35weapons
42:35next
42:36is
42:36power
42:37projection
42:37capabilities
42:38how
42:39many
42:39extraterritorial
42:40military
42:41bases
42:41do you
42:41have
42:41outside
42:42of
42:42your
42:42country
42:42China
42:43has
42:43one
42:44or
42:44two
42:44the
42:44US
42:45has
42:45700
42:45the
42:47US
42:47dominates
42:48China
42:48overall
42:49China
42:49doesn't
42:50even
42:50come
42:50close
42:50to
42:51the
42:51US
42:51in
42:52overall
42:52hard
42:53power
42:53and
42:54power
42:54projection
42:55which
42:55is
42:55why
42:55I
42:56will
42:57clearly
42:57place
42:58China
42:58unambiguously
42:59at
42:59number
42:59two
43:00maybe
43:00not
43:01even
43:01number
43:01two
43:01if
43:02you
43:02talk
43:03about
43:03nuclear
43:03weapons
43:03and
43:04you
43:04assign
43:04a
43:04score
43:04to
43:04that
43:04Russia
43:05overtakes
43:05China
43:05so
43:06maybe
43:06China
43:07is
43:07number
43:07two
43:07or
43:07number
43:07three
43:08probably
43:08number
43:08three
43:08actually
43:09in
43:09terms
43:09of
43:10actual
43:10composite
43:11hard
43:11power
43:12but
43:12economically
43:12it's
43:13way
43:13ahead
43:13of
43:13Russia
43:13it
43:14is
43:15a
43:15very
43:15close
43:16challenger
43:16to
43:17the
43:17US
43:17militarily
43:18it
43:18is
43:19untested
43:19and
43:19militarily
43:20when it
43:20comes
43:20to
43:21the
43:21defense
43:22expenditure
43:22it
43:22is
43:23significantly
43:23below
43:23the
43:23US
43:24so
43:25that's
43:25where
43:25China
43:25stands
43:26so
43:26some
43:26people
43:26will
43:27claim
43:27for
43:28matters
43:28of
43:28national
43:29urgency
43:29maybe
43:30you
43:30want
43:30to
43:30light
43:31a
43:31fire
43:31under
43:32the
43:32nation
43:32so
43:32that
43:32it
43:33will
43:33be
43:34more
43:35vigorous
43:36in
43:36taking
43:38care
43:38of
43:38the
43:38interest
43:38so
43:39that's
43:39why
43:39you
43:39will
43:39claim
43:40that
43:40China
43:40is
43:40surpassing
43:41us
43:41but
43:41actually
43:42it's
43:42not
43:42but
43:43China
43:43seeks
43:43to
43:43so
43:44maybe
43:44by
43:442050
43:45they
43:45want
43:45to
43:45achieve
43:46all
43:46the
43:46indicators
43:47and
43:47good
43:48scores
43:48on
43:48all
43:49the
43:49indicators
43:49that
43:50will
43:50put
43:50it
43:50cumulatively
43:51ahead
43:51of
43:51the
43:51US
43:52in
43:52hard
43:52power
43:52right
43:53now
43:53it's
43:53not
43:53the
43:53case
43:53let's
43:54come
43:54to
43:54Russia
43:55and
43:55India
43:55ties
43:55president
43:57Trump
43:57has
43:57been
43:58saying
43:58for
43:58a
43:58while
43:59that
43:59PM
43:59Modi
44:00or
44:00New
44:00Delhi
44:00has
44:00assured
44:01him
44:01that
44:02we
44:02won't
44:02be
44:02buying
44:03more
44:03Russian
44:03oil
44:03and
44:04there's
44:05nothing
44:05like
44:05that
44:05from
44:05Indian
44:06side
44:06should
44:07India
44:15woodgun
44:15for
44:16him
44:16that
44:16why
44:16would
44:16you
44:17stop
44:17buying
44:17Russian
44:18oil
44:18just
44:18because
44:18Trump
44:19told
44:19you
44:19so
44:19what
44:20is
44:20the
44:20way
44:21out
44:21from
44:21here
44:21question
44:22one
44:22and
44:22question
44:22two
44:23Russia
44:23seems
44:24to be
44:24a
44:24great
44:24friend
44:24they
44:25have
44:25helped
44:25us
44:25since
44:26independence
44:26all
44:26the
44:27wars
44:27Bangladesh
44:27war
44:28and
44:28all
44:28the
44:28wars
44:28they
44:28have
44:29supplied
44:29us
44:29weapons
44:30and
44:30ammunitions
44:31but
44:31they
44:32are
44:32still
44:32giving
44:32jet
44:33engines
44:33to
44:33Pakistan
44:34and
44:34India
44:35requested
44:35them
44:35please
44:35do
44:36not
44:36do
44:36so
44:36but
44:36they
44:36are
44:36still
44:37doing
44:37so
44:37how
44:38do
44:38you
44:38see
44:38this
44:38difference
44:38okay
44:39let's
44:39take
44:39the
44:40second
44:40question
44:40first
44:40and
44:40then
44:41we'll
44:41deal
44:41with
44:41the
44:41first
44:42one
44:42yes
44:43see
44:43India
44:43and
44:44Russia
44:44we
44:44have
44:44this
44:44long
44:45standing
44:45relationship
44:46back
44:46from
44:46the
44:46USSR
44:47the
44:48USSR
44:49and
44:49India
44:49were
44:49significantly
44:50allied
44:50India
44:51you
44:51could
44:52some
44:52could
44:52allege
44:52that
44:53India
44:53was
44:53junior
44:53partner
44:54of
44:54the
44:54USSR
44:54back
44:55in
44:55the
44:5520th
44:55century
44:55whatever
44:56you
44:56want
44:56to
44:56say
44:56but
44:57the
44:57USSR
44:57see
44:58it
44:59has
44:59never
44:59really
44:59harmed
45:00India's
45:01national
45:01interests
45:01in
45:01any
45:02way
45:02and
45:02neither
45:02has
45:03Russia
45:03overall
45:04speaking
45:04on a
45:05macro
45:05perspective
45:05and
45:06the
45:06USSR
45:06came
45:07to
45:07India's
45:08aid
45:08in
45:08critical
45:08times
45:09for
45:09example
45:09in
45:101971
45:10when
45:11the
45:11US
45:11sent
45:12an
45:12aircraft
45:12carrier
45:13strike
45:13group
45:13in
45:13the
45:13Bay
45:13of
45:14Bengal
45:14and
45:14so
45:14did
45:15the
45:15UK
45:15but
45:16the
45:16Russians
45:16sent
45:17nuclear
45:17submarines
45:18there
45:18was
45:18a
45:18standoff
45:19and
45:19that's
45:19why
45:19the
45:19Americans
45:20in
45:20the
45:20West
45:20could
45:21not
45:21arm
45:21twist
45:21India
45:22into
45:22not
45:23liberating
45:23Bangladesh
45:24the
45:25Russians
45:25have
45:25supplied
45:26us
45:26with
45:26all
45:26kinds
45:27of
45:27arms
45:27ammunitions
45:28weapons
45:29fighter
45:29planes
45:30without
45:31any
45:31kill
45:31switches
45:32or
45:32back
45:32doors
45:33please
45:33understand
45:33that
45:34right
45:34the
45:35F-16
45:36the
45:37F-35
45:37they
45:38will
45:38come
45:38with
45:38kill
45:39switches
45:39and
45:39back
45:39doors
45:40it
45:40is
45:40not
45:40a
45:41figment
45:41of
45:41my
45:41imagination
45:42see
45:42what
45:42happened
45:43to
45:43Australia
45:43with
45:43their
45:43purchases
45:44of
45:49they
45:49could
45:50not
45:50aim
45:51they
45:52could
45:52not
45:52use
45:52the
45:53aircraft
45:53target
45:53acquisition
45:54systems
45:54on
45:55targets
45:55that
45:55they
45:56wanted
45:56to
45:56acquire
45:56the
45:57code
45:57would
45:58not
45:58allow
45:58them
45:58to
45:58and
45:58the
45:59Americans
45:59refused
45:59to
45:59change
46:00the
46:00code
46:00the
46:00code
46:01the
46:01software
46:01the
46:02Australians
46:02could
46:03not
46:03make
46:03the
46:03planes
46:03do
46:03what
46:04they
46:04wanted
46:04for
46:0420
46:04years
46:05until
46:05they
46:05cracked
46:06the
46:06code
46:06so
46:07that's
46:07what
46:07happens
46:07when
46:08you
46:08buy
46:08American
46:08systems
46:09the
46:09Russians
46:09have
46:10never
46:10done
46:10that
46:10to
46:10India
46:11once
46:11you
46:12acquire
46:12the
46:12fighter
46:12plane
46:13MiG-21
46:14MiG-whatever
46:15Sukhoi
46:15it's
46:16entirely
46:16yours
46:17the
46:17Russians
46:18can't
46:18remote
46:18control
46:18it
46:19or
46:19sabotage
46:19it
46:20so
46:20the
46:20Russians
46:20have
46:21been
46:21far
46:21more
46:21reliable
46:21right
46:22so
46:23we
46:23have
46:23a
46:23long
46:23standing
46:24partnership
46:24with
46:24the
46:25Russians
46:25of
46:25course
46:26there
46:26are
46:26some
46:26minor
46:26irritants
46:27look
46:28China
46:30and
46:30Russia
46:30they
46:31have
46:31a
46:31great
46:31relationship
46:32we
46:32all
46:32know
46:33that
46:33Russia
46:34has
46:34sold
46:34Brahmos
46:35missiles
46:36to
46:36India
46:36which
46:37are
46:38frightfully
46:38dangerous
46:38to
46:39China
46:39does
46:40China
46:40do
46:40a
46:40hue
46:40and
46:40cry
46:41they
46:41understand
46:42in
46:42the
46:42world
46:42of
46:43geopolitics
46:43you
46:43have
46:44certain
46:44things
46:45that
46:45a
46:45nation
46:45does
46:46for
46:46its
46:47economic
46:47interests
46:47or
46:47whatever
46:48and
46:48the
46:48Chinese
46:49also
46:49understand
46:50that
46:50Russia
46:50and
46:51India
46:51have
46:51a
46:52long
46:52standard
46:52partnership
46:52which
46:53is
46:53separate
46:54from
46:54the
46:54China
46:55Russia
46:55partnership
46:55right
46:56so
46:57we
46:57have
46:57to
46:57be
46:58a
46:58little
46:58mature
46:59Russia
47:00is
47:00selling
47:01a
47:01few
47:01jet
47:01engines
47:02to
47:02Pakistan
47:02it's
47:04not
47:04a
47:05major
47:05irritant
47:05in
47:05our
47:06ties
47:06they
47:06will
47:07never
47:07prioritize
47:07Pakistan
47:08or
47:08India
47:09if
47:09there's
47:09a
47:10war
47:10they
47:10will
47:10be
47:10on
47:10India
47:10side
47:11they
47:11might
47:11not
47:11come
47:11to
47:12fight
47:12for
47:12us
47:12but
47:13they
47:13will
47:13not
47:13be
47:14on
47:14the
47:14side
47:14of
47:14Pakistan
47:14that's
47:15what
47:15we
47:15have
47:16to
47:16understand
47:16from
47:16a
47:16macro
47:17perspective
47:17these
47:17small
47:18irritants
47:18here
47:18and
47:18there
47:18will
47:19come
47:19for
47:19example
47:20let
47:20me
47:20give
47:20you
47:20another
47:20example
47:21from
47:222015
47:22to
47:222021
47:23the
47:24Russians
47:24and
47:24Pakistani
47:25militaries
47:25conducted
47:26annual
47:27joint
47:28exercises
47:28called
47:29the
47:30Druzba
47:30exercises
47:31what does
47:31Druzba
47:31mean
47:32in
47:32Russian
47:32friendship
47:33Mitrata
47:34so
47:35did
47:35India
47:35protest
47:36no
47:36let
47:36them
47:36do
47:37it
47:37these
47:37are
47:37small
47:37matters
47:38it's
47:38just
47:39it
47:39doesn't
47:40really
47:40matter
47:40for
47:41the
47:41larger
47:42relationship
47:43right
47:44so
47:44that's
47:45how
47:45I
47:45see
47:45the
47:45India
47:45Russia
47:45relationship
47:46it
47:47is
47:47a
47:47very
47:47important
47:48relationship
47:48with
47:48both
47:49nations
47:49it
47:50is
47:50Russia
47:50most
47:51long
47:51standing
47:51relationship
47:52before
47:53I
47:54come
47:54to
47:54the
47:54oil
47:54question
47:55let's
47:55understand
47:56the
47:56Russia
47:56China
47:56relationship
47:57Russia
47:58and
47:58China
47:58are
47:58natural
47:59adversaries
48:00not
48:00allies
48:01let me
48:02explain
48:02why
48:02when
48:03two
48:03major
48:03powers
48:04have
48:04a
48:04common
48:04border
48:04they
48:05can't
48:05be
48:05friends
48:06they
48:06simply
48:07can't
48:07be
48:07friends
48:07in
48:08the
48:081960s
48:09in
48:091969
48:10Russia
48:10the
48:11USSR
48:11Russia's
48:12predecessor
48:13and
48:14China
48:14nearly
48:15went
48:15to
48:15war
48:16there
48:17were
48:17these
48:17massive
48:18border
48:18clashes
48:18the
48:18Usuri
48:19river
48:19clashes
48:20in
48:21the
48:21far
48:21east
48:21of
48:21Russia
48:22and
48:22China
48:22and
48:23the
48:23Russian
48:24the
48:24USSR's
48:24government
48:25had
48:25decided
48:25to
48:26launch
48:26nuclear
48:27strikes
48:27on
48:28China
48:28and
48:28the
48:29Americans
48:29intervened
48:31and said
48:31that
48:31if you
48:31nuke
48:32China
48:32we
48:32will
48:32nuke
48:32you
48:32and
48:33that's
48:33why
48:33the
48:33Americans
48:34saved
48:34China
48:35and
48:35they
48:35brought
48:35China
48:36onto
48:36their
48:36side
48:36right
48:37so
48:37that
48:38is
48:38the
48:38deal
48:38with
48:39Russia
48:39and
48:39China
48:39they
48:40are
48:40not
48:40natural
48:41partners
48:42they
48:42are
48:42natural
48:43adversaries
48:43the
48:44current
48:44cooperation
48:45understanding
48:46that
48:46they
48:46have
48:46is
48:47because
48:47of
48:47the
48:48greater
48:48threat
48:48that
48:48they
48:48face
48:49from
48:49outside
48:49the
48:49US
48:50and
48:50that's
48:50why
48:51they
48:51are
48:51cooperating
48:51it
48:52is
48:52not
48:52going
48:52to
48:52last
48:52forever
48:53Russia
48:53and
48:53India
48:54we
48:54are
48:54natural
48:54partners
48:55not
48:56natural
48:57adversaries
48:57so
48:58the
48:58India
48:58Russia
48:58relationship
48:59is
48:59very
48:59important
49:00now
49:00when
49:00it
49:00comes
49:01to
49:01oil
49:01you
49:02mentioned
49:03rightfully
49:03so
49:03that
49:04Trump
49:04has
49:04been
49:04claiming
49:05that
49:05Mr.
49:05Modi
49:06has
49:06promised
49:06him
49:07given
49:07him
49:07assurances
49:07multiple
49:08times
49:08that
49:09India
49:09will
49:09stop
49:09buying
49:10Russian
49:10oil
49:10so
49:11what
49:11should
49:11India
49:12do
49:12first
49:12of
49:12all
49:12Mr.
49:13Modi
49:13has
49:13made
49:14no
49:14such
49:14assurance
49:15to
49:16Mr.
49:16Trump
49:17Mr.
49:17Trump
49:17is
49:17trying
49:18to
49:18pressurize
49:18India
49:18by
49:19making
49:19these
49:19claims
49:20what
49:21should
49:21India
49:21do
49:22should
49:22India
49:22stop
49:23buying
49:23Russian
49:23oil
49:23to
49:24placate
49:24Mr.
49:25Trump
49:25to
49:25please
49:25Mr.
49:26Trump
49:26that
49:27will
49:27be
49:28a
49:28severe
49:28blow
49:29to
49:29our
49:29relationship
49:30with
49:31Russia
49:31see
49:32in
49:322022
49:33February
49:3322nd
49:38the West
49:38slammed
49:40and imposed
49:41all kinds
49:41of economic
49:42and other
49:42sanctions
49:43on Russia
49:44it sought
49:44to crush
49:45the Russian
49:45economy
49:46and Russia
49:47became
49:48significantly
49:48dependent
49:49on China
49:49it was
49:50in danger
49:52of becoming
49:52a junior
49:53partner
49:54or a
49:54vassal
49:54state
49:55of China
49:55one of the
49:56reasons
49:57this did not
49:58happen
49:58is because
49:59India
49:59started
49:59buying
50:00tremendous
50:00quantities
50:01of Russian
50:01oil
50:01and this
50:02acted
50:02as a
50:03pressure
50:03release
50:04valve
50:04for
50:05Russia
50:05right
50:06so
50:06we don't
50:07want
50:07to
50:07undermine
50:08Russia's
50:08world
50:08standing
50:09Russia
50:09is
50:09important
50:10for
50:10us
50:10we
50:11don't
50:11want
50:11Russia's
50:12economy
50:12to
50:12suffer
50:12because
50:12it
50:13is
50:13very
50:13important
50:13for
50:13us
50:14it
50:14gives
50:14us
50:14leverage
50:14over
50:15the
50:15west
50:15and
50:16western
50:16pressure
50:17if we
50:17stop
50:18buying
50:18oil
50:18from
50:18Russia
50:18it
50:19is
50:19a
50:19blow
50:19to
50:19the
50:20Russian
50:20economy
50:20we
50:21are
50:21buying
50:21significant
50:21quantities
50:22of
50:22oil
50:22from
50:22Russia
50:23so
50:23if
50:23India
50:24stops
50:24buying
50:24oil
50:25from
50:25Russia
50:25citing
50:26whatever
50:26maybe
50:27Trump's
50:27pressure
50:28maybe
50:28economic
50:28reasons
50:29maybe
50:29prices
50:29it
50:30will
50:30be
50:30a
50:30blow
50:31for
50:31Russia
50:31and
50:31that
50:31would
50:31be
50:32a
50:32blow
50:32for
50:32India
50:32also
50:33in
50:33an
50:33indirect
50:34second
50:34order
50:34third
50:35order
50:35way
50:35and
50:36that's
50:36something
50:37which
50:37is
50:37not
50:38desirable
50:38for
50:39India's
50:39strategic
50:40autonomy
50:40and
50:41national
50:41security
50:41and
50:42overall
50:42geopolitical
50:43equations
50:43so
50:44we
50:44should
50:44not
50:45stop
50:46buying
50:46oil
50:46from
50:46Russia
50:47if
50:48the
50:48Americans
50:48insist
50:48that
50:48you
50:49buy
50:49oil
50:50from
50:50elsewhere
50:50we
50:50can
50:51maybe
50:51buy
50:51some
50:51oil
50:51from
50:51the
50:52US
50:52some
50:59looking
50:59at
51:00the
51:00governments
51:00being
51:01toppled
51:01around
51:01us
51:02we
51:02have
51:03spoken
51:03about
51:03examples
51:04in
51:04Nepal
51:04Bangladesh
51:05Sri Lanka
51:05and
51:06Pakistan
51:06should
51:07India
51:07be
51:07worried
51:08of
51:08some
51:08sort
51:08of
51:08you
51:09know
51:09protests
51:10or
51:10proxy
51:10war
51:11in
51:11near
51:11future
51:11should
51:12be
51:12very
51:12concerned
51:12very
51:13concerned
51:16one
51:16of
51:17the
51:17ways
51:17of
51:17destabilizing
51:18a
51:18government
51:19I
51:19failed
51:19to
51:20mention
51:20is
51:20electoral
51:21interference
51:22interfering
51:23with
51:24the
51:24electoral
51:24process
51:25of
51:25a
51:25nation
51:25so
51:26these
51:27colour
51:27revolutions
51:28or
51:28regime
51:29change
51:29operations
51:30that
51:30you
51:30mentioned
51:30Bangladesh
51:31Sri
51:31Lanka
51:32Nepal
51:32now
51:33we
51:33have
51:33Madagascar
51:33as
51:34well
51:34and
51:34there's
51:35a
51:35whole
51:35long
51:35list
51:36behind
51:36that
51:36these
51:37all
51:38follow
51:38the
51:38same
51:38template
51:39the
51:40nation
51:42that
51:42carries
51:43out
51:43the
51:44regime
51:44changes
51:44it
51:44first
51:45creates
51:46assets
51:47in
51:47the
51:47target
51:47country
51:48it
51:49creates
51:49all
51:49kinds
51:49of
51:49assets
51:50one
51:50of
51:50the
51:51ways
51:51is
51:51by
51:52funding
51:53NGOs
51:54NGOs
51:55are
51:58society
51:59social
52:00service
52:00and
52:00all
52:00but
52:01through
52:01that
52:01you
52:01can
52:01start
52:02activism
52:02and
52:02what
52:02not
52:02you
52:03know
52:03and
52:03undermine
52:04the
52:04government
52:04and
52:04its
52:05credibility
52:05another
52:06way
52:06is
52:06by
52:06industrial
52:07scale
52:08religious
52:08conversions
52:09okay
52:10industrial
52:11scale
52:11religious
52:12conversions
52:12which
52:12is
52:12an
52:12activity
52:13that's
52:13happening
52:13in
52:13various
52:13parts
52:14of
52:14India
52:14by
52:15doing
52:15that
52:15you
52:15create
52:15an
52:15anti
52:16national
52:16sentiment
52:16why
52:17am I
52:17saying
52:18such
52:18a
52:18horrible
52:18thing
52:18well
52:19the
52:19Chinese
52:20and
52:20the
52:20Japanese
52:20historically
52:21have
52:21been
52:21at
52:21the
52:21receiving
52:22end
52:22of
52:22this
52:22the
52:23Chinese
52:23in
52:24the
52:241850s
52:26around
52:27the
52:27time
52:27of
52:28the
52:28opium
52:28wars
52:29or
52:29the
52:29Dungan
52:29revolt
52:30and
52:30so
52:30much
52:30more
52:30there
52:31were
52:32attempts
52:32to
52:32transform
52:33the
52:34demographics
52:34of
52:34China
52:35through
52:36missionary
52:36activity
52:36even
52:38during
52:38the
52:38Mongol
52:39Empire
52:39the
52:39daughter
52:40in
52:40law
52:40of
52:40Genghis
52:41Khan
52:41Sorhat
52:41Tani
52:42Beki
52:42she
52:42was
52:42a
52:43historian
52:43Christian
52:43and
52:44her
52:44son
52:44eventually
52:45went
52:45on
52:45to
52:45be
52:45the
52:45emperor
52:46of
52:46China
52:46so
52:47there
52:47have
52:47been
52:47these
52:47attempts
52:47in
52:47the
52:48past
52:48also
52:48even
52:48now
52:48to
52:49use
52:50religious
52:50conversions
52:51to
52:51undermine
52:52national
52:53interest
52:53the
52:54Japanese
52:54and
52:54the
52:54Chinese
52:55both
52:55wrote
52:56about
52:56this
52:57in
52:57the
52:57past
52:57in
52:57the
52:58past
52:58few
52:58centuries
52:58that
52:59whenever
53:00certain
53:01population
53:01whenever
53:01the
53:02populations
53:02are
53:02converted
53:03they
53:04somehow
53:04develop
53:05extraterritorial
53:07loyalties
53:07and the
53:08Chinese
53:08coined
53:09a term
53:10for
53:10the
53:10people
53:10who
53:11are
53:11converted
53:11Rice
53:12Christians
53:12this
53:13is
53:13a
53:13matter
53:13of
53:13historical
53:13record
53:14I
53:14not
53:14inventing
53:14it
53:15so
53:15one
53:15of
53:15the
53:16ways
53:16is
53:16to
53:16do
53:17this
53:17religious
53:17conversions
53:18and
53:18then
53:18you
53:18have
53:19those
53:19groups
53:19support
53:19the
53:20foreign
53:20activity
53:20so
53:21you
53:21cultivate
53:22academics
53:23you
53:23cultivate
53:23business
53:24leaders
53:24you
53:25do
53:25religious
53:25conversions
53:26you
53:26support
53:26NGOs
53:27you
53:28create
53:28narratives
53:28you
53:29cultivate
53:30business
53:30people
53:30you
53:30cultivate
53:31political
53:31parties
53:31and
53:32you
53:32create
53:33an
53:34astroturfed
53:35mass
53:35movement
53:36there
53:36is
53:36something
53:36called
53:37the
53:37no
53:37kings
53:37movement
53:38that's
53:38happening
53:38in
53:38the
53:38US
53:38right
53:39now
53:39against
53:40Trump
53:40against
53:40Trump
53:41is
53:41that
53:41a
53:42genuine
53:42grassroots
53:43movement
53:43I mean
53:43it's
53:44in
53:44the
53:44US
53:44we're
53:44talking
53:44about
53:44India
53:45but
53:45let
53:45me
53:45just
53:45explain
53:45what
53:46that
53:46is
53:46also
53:46yeah
53:47is
53:47that
53:47something
53:48that's
53:48genuine
53:48is
53:49it
53:49something
53:49that
53:49the
53:49people
53:50are
53:50spontaneously
53:50doing
53:51well
53:52Fox News
53:53and other
53:53outlets
53:53have
53:53reported
53:54that
53:54the
53:56organization
53:56indivisible
53:57that
53:58is
53:58organizing
53:59the
53:59no
53:59kings
53:59protests
54:00it
54:00has
54:00received
54:01more
54:01than
54:0110
54:0111
54:02million
54:02dollars
54:03from
54:03Soros
54:03George
54:03Soros
54:04and
54:04his
54:04organizations
54:05and
54:06other
54:07organizations
54:07like
54:07the
54:07Rockefeller
54:08Foundation
54:08and
54:09Bill
54:09Gates
54:10and
54:10whatnot
54:10are
54:10also
54:11involved
54:11in
54:11funding
54:12these
54:12organizations
54:13that
54:14are
54:14organizing
54:15the
54:15protests
54:16so
54:16when
54:17you
54:17have
54:17billionaires
54:18who
54:19are
54:19funding
54:19organizations
54:20that
54:20are
54:20professionally
54:21organizing
54:22protests
54:23is
54:24it
54:24really
54:24a
54:24grassroots
54:24movement
54:25so
54:25you
54:26so
54:27to
54:27do
54:28a
54:28movement
54:28across
54:28the
54:29United
54:29States
54:29across
54:2950
54:29states
54:30for
54:30example
54:30let's
54:31say
54:31it's
54:31not
54:31full
54:3150
54:33you
54:33need
54:33tremendous
54:33logistical
54:34support
54:35you
54:35need
54:35lot
54:35of
54:36tremendous
54:36amounts
54:37of
54:37money
54:37you
54:37need
54:38people
54:38on
54:38the
54:38ground
54:38professionals
54:39on
54:39the
54:39ground
54:39who
54:39are
54:39organizing
54:40everybody
54:40or
54:41bringing
54:41everybody
54:42on
54:43time
54:43to
54:43so
54:43and
54:43so
54:43place
54:44giving
54:44them
54:44food
54:44whatever
54:44is
54:44required
54:45this
54:45is
54:46a
54:46professional
54:46movement
54:48this
54:48is
54:48professionally
54:49executed
54:49movement
54:49it's
54:50not
54:50a
54:50grassroots
54:50movement
54:51but
54:51when
54:51a
54:52few
54:52million
54:52people
54:52come
54:52out
54:53on
54:53the
54:53roads
54:54then
54:54other
54:54people
54:55who
54:55are
54:55not
54:55part
54:56of
54:56the
54:56movement
54:56they
54:56will
54:56also
54:56feel
54:57maybe
54:57the
54:57government
54:57is
54:57wrong
54:58maybe
54:58we
54:58should
54:58go
54:58and
54:59support
54:59it
54:59and
55:00that's
55:00how
55:00you
55:00create
55:00an
55:01artificial
55:01movement
55:02right
55:02similarly
55:03these
55:05protests
55:06that happened
55:06in Bangladesh
55:07that led
55:07to the
55:07expulsion
55:08of
55:08Sheikh
55:08Hasina
55:08they
55:09were
55:09also
55:09similarly
55:10astroturfed
55:10and
55:11eventually
55:11Sheikh
55:12Hasina
55:12had to
55:12leave
55:12the
55:12country
55:13not
55:13because
55:13of
55:13the
55:13protests
55:14but
55:14because
55:14the
55:15Bangladesh
55:15military
55:15at
55:16the
55:16last
55:16minute
55:16gave
55:25well
55:25engineered
55:26it
55:26is
55:27made
55:27to
55:27appear
55:28like
55:28an
55:28organic
55:29spontaneous
55:29movement
55:31but
55:31there's
55:32always
55:32professional
55:33organization
55:34and
55:34tremendous
55:35amounts
55:35of
55:35funds
55:36that's
55:36behind
55:37all
55:37of
55:37this
55:37now
55:38similar
55:38things
55:39can
55:39also
55:39happen
55:39in
55:39India
55:40India
55:41I am
55:41sure
55:41is
55:41significantly
55:42penetrated
55:43and
55:44multiple
55:45assets
55:45of
55:46various
55:46kinds
55:46would
55:46have
55:46been
55:47cultivated
55:47within
55:47India
55:48India
55:48is
55:48a
55:49fully
55:49transparent
55:49country
55:50foreign
55:50organizations
55:51and
55:51foreign
55:51governments
55:52can
55:52fund
55:52various
55:52things
55:53not
55:53directly
55:54but
55:54through
55:54intermediaries
55:56etc
55:56NGO
55:57funding
55:57comes
55:57from
55:58other
55:58organizations
55:59that
55:59are not
55:59related
55:59directly
56:00to
56:00various
56:00governments
56:01and
56:02so
56:02on
56:03so
56:03it's
56:03definitely
56:04possible
56:05in
56:05the
56:05future
56:05that
56:05India
56:06may
56:06be
56:07the
56:07target
56:07of
56:07a
56:08regime
56:08change
56:08operation
56:08of
56:09a
56:09colour
56:09revolution
56:10kind
56:10of
56:10thing
56:10you
56:11may
56:11see
56:11increasing
56:12attacks
56:13on
56:13India
56:13in
56:13various
56:14ways
56:14more
56:14attacks
56:15on
56:15various
56:16business
56:18operations
56:18on
56:20the
56:20credibility
56:21of
56:21the
56:21government
56:21of
56:22India
56:22of
56:22Prime
56:22Minister
56:22Modi
56:23and
56:24so
56:24it's
56:24going
56:24to
56:25increase
56:25in
56:25my
56:25opinion
56:26we
56:26should
56:26be
56:26prepared
56:27for
56:27it
56:27social
56:28media
56:28manipulation
56:29so
56:29much
56:29more
56:29thank
56:30you
56:30sir
56:30thank
56:30you
56:30for
56:30having
56:30conversation
56:31a
56:31and
56:31I
56:31it was
56:32most welcome
56:32my pleasure
56:33it was
56:33nice speaking
56:34to you
56:34thank
56:34you
56:34thank
56:35you
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