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Fastenal Falls as Soft Pricing Overshadows Results
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It does seem like analysts were noting that the pricing during the quarter was weaker than expected
00:05
and marks the second straight quarter of softer pricing. And maybe that's why we're seeing the
00:09
stock down. What do you want to say to investors? Well, part of the reason our stock's down is it's
00:15
price to perfection. If you look at what it's done, you know, year to date and where the
00:19
multiple has gone. But, you know, we had we had a really good quarter. We had we had a double
00:27
digit quarter. We hadn't seen that for a couple of years. Double digit growth. Sorry. And pleased
00:34
with the outcome. One of the one of the challenges we had this year was there's a lot of fluidity
00:41
around tariffs and what it means for pricing. And we will raise price to address costs in
00:48
our customer supply chain. We we really don't want to raise more than that because we believe
00:54
it impairs our ability to grow as fast as we'd like. And, you know, coming into the quarter,
01:00
we estimated, you know, X for for impact of pricing came in a little bit less. We lowered our number for
01:06
the fourth quarter. But the most important aspect is on a price cost basis, we are neutral. And that's
01:13
what we aspire to be. We'd rather just grow. And Dan, to your point, Fastenal, even with the pullback
01:19
today, returning 22 percent year to date. So outperforming the S&P 500 and comparable stocks
01:25
in the industrial space. But just one more question on pricing in terms of expectations. Would you want
01:32
to raise pricing? Like, do you get the sense that consumers and customers would push back just given
01:37
how you've been shifting into bigger customers spending much more money? Yeah, customers always
01:43
push back on pricing. It doesn't matter the size customer. We will. We are having conversations
01:49
with our customer. We will be doing some price increases in Q4. I suspect we'll be doing some
01:55
price increases as we move into 2026. But again, our first discussion with the customer,
02:01
they understand it. They're willing to move on price. Our first discussion is always what are
02:08
alternatives to this product that maybe doesn't mean we have to raise your prices 5 percent. Maybe
02:13
it means it only has to be two. And we'd rather go to two because that's what a supply chain partner
02:19
does. Well, Dan, how do tariffs fit into this? Just given that, according to analysts across the
02:24
street, when we look at certain industries, now is when we're going to see tariffs showing up in the
02:30
third quarter in guidance as it relates to 2026. What are you seeing and how are you kind of
02:35
attacking or addressing any pressures from tariffs? Yeah. So for us, tariffs have been in the equation
02:42
since the early part of the second quarter, a little bit of first quarter. I think in
02:47
the individual that handles pricing, historically, he'll provide us an update once a month. He'd gotten
02:54
to the point where he was not only providing us updates. He was up to video number 14 as of July
03:00
that he was serving out to the field, giving them guidance into what we were seeing in our supply
03:06
chain. And so we've been adding price as we've gone through the year. And these have been discussions
03:12
with customers. And I hope that answers your question. No, I think it does. But I think the big
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thing is, are you mitigating the impact of tariffs? Are you shifting your supply chain? Is the expectation
03:24
that you can have some kind of knock on effect as it relates to pricing? If we do continue to see
03:29
threats from the president going after countries like China or others, we are going to talk to
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one of the members of Levi's management team, and they called out that they had to dial up their
03:39
expectations for the impact of tariffs from other countries. So how is that impacting when you look
03:44
at your supply chain and when you look at the potential for pricing impacts in 2026?
03:48
We've been moving supply chain around the planet in earnest since 2017-2018 timeframe.
03:57
As our name would imply, we sell a lot of fasters. And most of the fasters in North America come from
04:05
either mainland China or Taiwan. And the automotive industry took the production there back in the 50s
04:12
and 60s, actually took it to Japan and South Korea, and then migrated from there. If I look at our
04:19
resources, we now have a sourcing team in Shanghai, but we have a sourcing team in Bangkok. We have a
04:26
sourcing team in Northern India. And we have worked to diversify our supplier base around the planet,
04:33
and a little bit more in North America, but really around the planet. So to have diversity in supply,
04:39
so you're not caught off guard by some price change or a tariff change. In addition to that,
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we've taken supply chains coming into North America, which traditionally came in through the
04:51
West Coast of the United States, and then we would redistribute from there. We have moved supply chains
04:56
so they're bringing product directly into the West Coast of Canada, or the West Coast of Mexico,
05:01
because those two countries represent about 14% of our revenue. Now, you bypass the tariff. However,
05:09
it's more expensive to break shipments down over in Asia and bring them in, but it's a lot less than a tariff.
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