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Debating College Football Losses - Does Who You Lose To Matter?
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00:00
Bob, do they have similar losses, or that doesn't matter?
00:03
Why, what does it matter? They have two losses. Who cares?
00:07
So it doesn't matter who you lose to.
00:07
No.
00:08
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
00:09
No.
00:09
It is, undeniably, the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
00:14
Hey, if I lose to Georgia or Eastern Bumble, it's all the same.
00:20
It is.
00:20
That is the dumbest thing.
00:22
I know.
00:23
No, no, no, Joe.
00:23
You can say that.
00:24
The dumbest thing.
00:25
Listen, we see your list.
00:26
So Alabama losing to FSU and Alabama losing to Georgia are the same?
00:31
So let me ask you this.
00:32
Are those the same things?
00:33
I'll tell you this.
00:34
Are they the same things?
00:37
I'm just telling you.
00:37
No, no, no, no.
00:38
In college.
00:38
Answer my question.
00:40
No.
00:40
And then make your bad point.
00:42
No, because again, in college, we're talking about two.
00:45
How about this one?
00:46
Is Alabama losing to 5-7 FSU and Georgia the same?
00:52
No, it's not.
00:52
Oh, interesting.
00:53
Then why is Miami losing to two unranked teams the same as Notre Dame losing to No. 7 and
01:01
No. 10?
01:02
Let me tell you something.
01:03
Again, I'm a believer the way I do it.
01:05
At the start of the year, a week one matchup really matters because you're getting the team's
01:09
best shot.
01:10
So I don't care that.
01:11
That is also insane.
01:12
It is.
01:13
It's the truth.
01:14
It's the truth.
01:15
I mean, what a manic comment.
01:16
If a team is in the top 10 at the start of the year, that talent-wise has six months
01:21
to prepare for a week month.
01:23
The Lions were 13 points in week one.
01:24
They scored 44 on Thursday.
01:27
If I had to figure out what's the best version of the Lions, it'd be week one.
01:30
Okay, so let me ask you this.
01:31
If the Lions lose to the Jets or they lose to the Saints, are we holding it against them,
01:37
the fact that they lost to one of the worst teams in the NFL?
01:40
Yes!
01:40
Or is it a loss or loss?
01:42
Yes!
01:42
We grade it the same way.
01:44
No, we don't!
01:44
Okay, I do.
01:45
When we're evaluating them, we do not.
01:47
No, because again, the way I do it is, and I look at a team is, it's college football.
01:53
Right.
01:53
We're not talking about professionals.
01:55
We have 42-point underdogs that cover in a given weekend.
01:59
You see it all the time.
02:00
It's not like the NFL, where you have the consistency from week to week to week.
02:05
And even in the NFL, we see the elite teams like Green Bay, like the Eagles, like Kansas
02:11
City, or who's the best team in the AFC.
02:14
Miami, I'd lose on a consistent basis, Indianapolis.
02:18
I mean, come on.
02:18
It happens all the time.
02:20
It happens all the time.
02:22
There's parity.
02:23
The bottom line is, Miami has two losses.
02:26
Notre Dame has two losses.
02:27
Notre Dame didn't beat anybody.
02:29
Miami beat them head to head.
02:31
They both play an ACC schedule.
02:33
And it doesn't matter that Miami lost to a four-loss Louisville team or a four-loss SMU team.
02:40
That's insignificant.
02:41
That's...
02:42
That's...
02:42
That's insignificant.
02:43
That's insane.
02:44
Why?
02:46
Why?
02:46
They lost the head-to-head.
02:47
Hold on.
02:48
I get that.
02:49
So, that is a...
02:50
Joe.
02:52
Joe.
02:52
Notre Dame's the champion.
02:54
Just give them the cut.
02:55
Here we go.
02:55
They lost the head-to-head.
02:56
Joe.
02:57
They lost the head-to-head.
02:58
So, so...
02:59
Head-to-head matters.
03:00
I get it matters.
03:00
Is that the only thing that matters?
03:02
Yes.
03:02
That's wrong.
03:03
If we have...
03:04
So, then why do they play 11 other games?
03:06
They did, and it was a similar schedule.
03:08
It wasn't!
03:09
Okay.
03:09
So, where is the quality win for Notre Dame?
03:12
USC.
03:13
Okay.
03:13
By double digits.
03:15
Yes!
03:15
What?
03:15
Whoa.
03:16
Okay.
03:17
That's not a good football team.
03:18
Yes, it is!
03:19
No, it's not.
03:20
Yes, it is!
03:21
Wait a second.
03:22
Here it is.
03:23
But, Joe, they're a top 16 team in the country.
03:25
Okay.
03:25
All right.
03:27
USC is garbage.
03:28
Not in my mind, Joe.
03:29
USC is garbage.
03:30
They lost the head-to-head.
03:30
No, I know.
03:31
I know.
03:31
You bet against Lincoln every year.
03:33
They lost the head-to-head.
03:34
Sometimes it lands tails.
03:35
Sometimes it lands heads.
03:37
I get it.
03:37
They lost the head-to-head.
03:38
I understand that.
03:40
And then they played 11 other games.
03:42
That were meaningless.
03:43
They beat 2-10 Syracuse.
03:45
So, then what?
03:46
They beat a 2-10 Arkansas team.
03:48
They beat Navy.
03:49
By a thousand.
03:50
They beat NC State.
03:50
They beat NC State.
03:51
By a thousand.
03:52
And so did Miami.
03:53
By a thousand.
03:53
And so did Miami.
03:55
No.
03:55
Miami beat Pitt.
03:56
No.
03:57
Miami was throwing touchdowns with eight seconds on the clock against Pitt.
04:01
They're a clown show.
04:02
Did Notre Dame play Vatec?
04:04
No.
04:04
Okay.
04:05
So, there's another win.
04:06
I'm just saying.
04:07
Vatec is awful.
04:08
Well, there you go.
04:09
They still beat them by 17 on the road.
04:11
They didn't cover.
04:12
Oh, okay.
04:12
It was on Vatec.
04:13
All right.
04:14
All right.
04:14
They didn't cover.
04:15
So, what is it about?
04:16
Why do you always walk in the doors during these things?
04:18
Where's the quality road win for Notre Dame?
04:22
Joe, where's the quality road win for Miami?
04:25
Well, Vatec isn't bad.
04:26
Are you nuts?
04:28
No.
04:28
I mean, really.
04:29
I mean, really.
04:30
Listen.
04:30
Every time you do this, it ends like this.
04:32
The bottom line is a head-to-head.
04:34
Hey, everything he says next is to sell me something.
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