Zelensky in Berlin as Trump says Ukraine deal Is near

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00:00We had a very good conversation one hour ago with the European leaders, many of them

00:07involving the war with Russia and Ukraine.

00:11We were — we had a long discussion, and things are seemingly going well, but we've

00:17been saying that for a long time, and it's a difficult one.

00:22We had, as you know, settled eight wars, and one was having a little problem yesterday,

00:26Thailand and Cambodia, we were able to straighten that out.

00:30There was some killing going on that shouldn't have happened, and we appreciate them working

00:36to get it straightened out, and they have.

00:39The security protocols yesterday were amazing, and they have been amazing, having to do with

00:46Russia and Ukraine.

00:47And I had a long talk with President Zelensky.

00:52Also, I spoke with the heads of Germany, Italy, NATO, Finland, France, the United Kingdom,

01:00Poland, Norway, Denmark, and the Netherlands.

01:03We had very long and very good talks.

01:07And again, I think things are going along pretty well.

01:13Twenty-seven thousand soldiers were killed last month.

01:16It shouldn't happen.

01:17It should have never happened.

01:18It should have never started.

01:19That war should have never, ever started.

01:23But it did, and we're trying to get it solved.

01:24That was Biden's situation.

01:26We're trying to get it done.

01:30And I think we're closer now.

01:31And they will tell you that they're closer now.

01:34We had numerous conversations with President Putin of Russia.

01:39And I think we're closer now than we have been ever.

01:43And we'll see what we can do.

01:44We want to save a lot of lives.

01:46We sell equipment to NATO.

01:47We don't spend any money.

01:49But we do want to see if we can save a lot of lives.

01:52When you're losing 25,000 to 30,000 soldiers, mostly soldiers, other people, too, from towns,

02:00and places like Kiev, various other places throughout Ukraine, it's pretty bad.

02:08Nobody's seen anything like it, actually, since World War II.

02:13But we're getting closer.

02:15We're having tremendous support from European leaders.

02:20They want to get it ended also.

02:22And at this moment, Russia wants to get it ended.

02:25The problem is they'll want to get it ended, and then all of a sudden they won't.

02:29And Ukraine will want to get it ended, and all of a sudden they won't.

02:33So we have to get them on the same page.

02:35But I think that's working along.

02:36Very good talk.

02:37Question about Ukraine.

02:39Now that the meetings in Berlin have wrapped up with Zelensky, is there a timetable for

02:45going to Moscow?

02:46Is the delegation going?

02:47Well, I think that the delegation is largely there right now, actually.

02:51They're in Europe.

02:53And they met with those people that I called out before the various countries, plus some

02:57others.

03:00They want to see it end, Katie.

03:01They want to see it end.

03:02They all.

03:03I want to see it end.

03:04They want to see it end.

03:05I actually think that President Putin wants to see it end.

03:09You know, I've had good talks.

03:10We've had good talks with Russia.

03:13And I think they'd like to get back to a more normal way of life.

03:17The Pressure to follow up there.

03:19An Article 5-like deal seems to be emerging without NATO membership for Ukraine.

03:26If such a security guarantee is offered, what incentive is there for Ukraine to give them

03:31any sort of territory?

03:32Well, look, you have — well, they've already lost the territory, you know, to be honest.

03:37I mean, they've — the territory is lost.

03:39But — but in terms of security guarantee, we're working — we're working with Europe

03:44on it.

03:45Europe would be a big part of that.

03:46And we're working on the security guarantee so the war doesn't start up again.

03:51We don't want to have a war start up again.

03:52You know, as I said, with Thailand and Cambodia, two people I get along with great.

04:00And I dealt with them and I called them and I said, look, you've got to relax.

04:03You've got to take it easy.

04:04They lost.

04:05You know, they started the war again.

04:07And I got it ended.

04:10And things like that are going to happen.

04:11War.

04:12There's nothing — nothing pretty about war.

04:14Nothing good.

04:15And there's nothing you can do to predict what's going to happen.

04:18But I think we've made a lot of progress with respect to Russia and Ukraine.

04:21And I hope — I hope — you know, last — last month, it was close to 27,000 soldiers

04:27were killed — mostly soldiers — but — 27,000 people.

04:31But mostly soldiers were killed last month in Russia versus Ukraine.

04:36Is there a time limit on security guarantees?

04:38Well, there's no time limit.

04:39We just — the time limit is whenever we get it done.

04:42I mean, we're going to try to get it done.

04:44We're making progress.

04:45It's more difficult than anybody could have thought.

04:48I would have said that half of the wars that I got settled — some were going for over

04:5230 years — that half of them should have been more difficult, and they actually haven't

04:57been.

04:58There's a lot of dislike between the two leaders.

05:00You know that?

05:01And so it probably makes it a little bit tough.

05:03Have you recently spoken directly to Putin?

05:05Have you recently spoken directly to Putin?

05:08Yeah, I have.

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