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00:00With all the horrific and sad news over the weekend, it's nice to actually have the ability
00:08and the blessings to enjoy the Christmas season, the holiday season. We certainly did that
00:14with the Ingram Angle. Some of our staff, family and friends showed up and we had quite the
00:20festivities. Although J.D. Vance had his party the same night. We were really annoyed by that.
00:26No, I'm just kidding. We had a blast. Raymond came all the way from New Orleans. Sam, executive
00:31producer, came. I love her like a sister. One of my favorite people in the world. Wait, she wrote that.
00:37She came in from New York City. Friends from Minneapolis. Marty, you know who you are. Dr.
00:43Jay Bhattacharya, Eric Schmidt, Speaker Johnson, Scott Besson, they were all here. We had a blast.
00:48And also we went to the Army-Navy game in Baltimore on Saturday. Tulsi Gabbard, Dave McCormick,
00:55all of them there. I even ran into Rachel Campos Duffy and the president.
01:00That was a lot of fun. All right, Jesse Waters is next.
01:06Welcome to Jesse Waters' prime time tonight.
01:10He entered the room and you could just see the panic in all the students' eyes.
01:14The gun was so big and long that I genuinely thought like, okay, this is the end of the road
01:20for me. He just started shooting right away. Three days since the Brown shooting, no arrests,
01:26no answers, nothing. We've all been working for now 49 hours. We're tired. He has sometimes a hard
01:35time expressing himself through just conversation, but through his efforts. What do you mean by that?
01:40Because it seems like he's very expressive through conversation. Well, we're on a show right now.
01:44Hollywood director Rob Reiner murdered by his own son.
01:49We didn't bond a lot as a kid. Like, he really liked baseball. I like basketball.
01:53A Muslim family on the watch list shoots up Jews down under.
02:14Plus...
02:15Fox News alert. There's a manhunt underway for the shooter who left two dead and nine wounded at
02:36Brown University Saturday. Students were holding a study session for finals when a masked man entered
02:42the lecture hall armed with a long gun and started firing. Here's an eyewitness.
02:47I was standing in the front. So as soon as he walked in, he immediately saw me and I immediately
02:52saw him. And then I looked to my right and I see a bunch of students running down the stairs,
02:59running out the door, jumping on the ground, just whatever, whatever it takes to stay alive.
03:04When I saw him, I saw a gun. I genuinely thought like, okay, this is the end of the road for me.
03:11How soon did he start shooting after he entered the room?
03:15He just started shooting right away. There was no hesitation.
03:18That guy and about 20 other students ducked behind a long desk inside the auditorium and just waited
03:24for the gunshots to stop. The AP says around 40 rounds were fired. This went down around 4.05
03:31Saturday afternoon in Rhode Island. Brown University didn't send down an alert until 17 minutes later,
03:38telling students to shelter in place. And not a single one of the sirens on campus went off.
03:45Apparently the Providence police and campus safety officers didn't make it to the scene of the crime
03:50in time to apprehend the shooter. Students were locked down for nine hours, crouching underneath desks,
03:57barricading themselves behind their beds, texting. I love you to their family while police went door to door.
04:04Police! Police! Providence police!
04:19Hands, hands, hands! Hands, hands! Hands! Hands! Hands!
04:23At 6 a.m. the following day, Brown lifted the lockdown. One of the victims was 19-year-old sophomore,
04:29Ella Cook. She was the vice president of Brown's Republican Club.
04:34an Alabama native who was a devout Christian.
04:37Her pastor described her as a tremendous bright light,
04:41and she may have been the most prominent Republican on campus.
04:44Brown's considered the most liberal of all the Ivy League schools,
04:48so any members of the college Republicans would be very well known.
04:51The family of Ella Cook, the Alabama young woman who was a sophomore,
04:56has been told that she was the target of what happened at Brown.
05:00I have no idea whether that's true.
05:01And the other thing is, if the police are telling Brown students that they are safe,
05:06they don't have to shelter in place anymore, but they don't have a suspect in custody,
05:10I think that also suggests that this was some kind of targeted attack.
05:13Well, we haven't confirmed that yet, but Prime Time's investigating.
05:17We're also hearing that the shooter may have screamed something before he opened fire.
05:21We haven't confirmed that, and police have been very coy.
05:26There's a report the shooter yelled something right before his shot came in.
05:30Could you tell us what that was?
05:33Yeah, it's part of the investigation.
05:35Is there anything else inside that auditorium that you could tell us?
05:39Did he yell out? Did you say something?
05:41That's something that we're investigating.
05:43We took statements and we have to confirm it.
05:44There's already audio from the scene.
05:45There's a lot of cell phones there.
05:47We're going to wrap it up here.
05:52So a guy walks into an Ivy League building, lets off 40 rounds, murders two people, walks out,
05:59and three days later, we have no idea where he is or who he is.
06:03I guess we're assuming it's a he, but we don't even know that for sure.
06:08And police won't even say if it's a man or a woman.
06:11Police thought they had their suspect, a white army veteran.
06:15Now someone's in custody.
06:17How you all are working together to garner that information?
06:20Custody is the wrong word.
06:22Someone being detained, rather.
06:24Correct.
06:25But late last night, they said, oops, wrong guy.
06:30Shortly, we will be releasing the person of interest who had been detained earlier today.
06:38Providence Mayor Brett Smiley isn't even sure releasing this guy was the right call.
06:43So you're absolutely convinced the person of interest said nothing to do with this?
06:50We're not saying that definitively.
06:52What we're saying is that after a review of the evidence that was gathered,
06:56it was determined that the person of interest needed to be released.
07:00CBS is reporting that investigators had to restart the investigation
07:04after early missteps that cost them several hours.
07:08As things stand tonight, Rhode Island doesn't seem to have any leads.
07:12The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for any tips that could lead to an arrest.
07:18And moments ago, officials held a presser to release new images of the suspected shooter,
07:24sporting all black threads with a beanie and a face mask,
07:27walking on a sidewalk in the vicinity of the shooting.
07:30This was recorded a couple hours before the shooting.
07:33So it looks like it was premeditated and this person was casing the area.
07:38These are the clearest surveillance videos that we have so far.
07:42And there's not much to go on.
07:44All I can say is we can probably rule out a black guy.
07:48We're looking at a chubby white, Hispanic or Muslim male about medium height.
07:54Even with the new surveillance out, the police won't tell us anything.
07:59Is there a new description you can give us up?
08:01There is.
08:01And it will be on that poster that we're going to be releasing on the images.
08:05Okay.
08:05So millions of people were watching the police chief live.
08:08And he said he'd put it out online.
08:11Why wouldn't he just tell us?
08:12Well, we checked online and two hours later, he said the suspect is light-skinned and stocky.
08:20Brown University has over 800 security cameras across campus.
08:25Cameras are located in campus buildings and walkways and public streets.
08:30But not a single camera got a clear shot of this guy going into the building or leaving the building.
08:36And police chief Oscar Perez has been confused from the jump.
08:40Brown University is the most camera-ridden, most responsive piece of real estate for Rhode Island.
08:48And yet there seems to be little or no video evidence outside of that clip.
08:52Is there a lot more video that we're just not able to see yet because of the ongoing investigation?
08:58Or is there simply no video?
09:00So what we shared with you the other day is what we have.
09:03Okay.
09:03We have high-resolution cameras for speeding tickets, but not for mass shooters at Ivy League schools.
09:10Brown's tuition is $70,000 a year.
09:14The school's endowment is $8 billion.
09:16And someone just walked on campus, murdered two students, and got away.
09:21And the president of the university is playing catch-up.
09:24President, with all due respect, six hours after the shooting, and you said you don't know what was going on in that classroom?
09:31How does that happen?
09:32Were they taking an exam?
09:34Were they eating for a club?
09:35I don't know.
09:36I don't know.
09:37Six hours later, you're the president, and you don't know.
09:39I do not know.
09:43Trump says Brown dropped the ball, but the FBI is there if they need them.
09:48They had their own guards.
09:50They had their own police.
09:51They had their own everything.
09:52But you'd have to ask that question really to the school, not to the FBI.
09:56We came in after the fact.
09:58The FBI doesn't have jurisdiction over this case.
10:02When the locals ask for help, they'll help.
10:04But the locals are running this investigation.
10:07And even the local media has had it with their leadership.
10:10President Donald Trump has said that Brown University is too lame for this shooting, saying it's the school's problem.
10:18Is that a fair criticism, or do you disagree with what the president said?
10:20I don't think it's a fair criticism.
10:22Can you expand on that?
10:24Why not?
10:24Because Brown University is no collaboration with you guys.
10:27You're not into the press over here.
10:29They have facial recognition.
10:30We know that because they follow the students, they follow everybody in the neighborhood.
10:34They need to release that data so everybody know who the guy can be.
10:40We got a video Saturday.
10:42Why you guys release a video today?
10:43I think I answered the question.
10:46Wow.
10:47It's been 72 hours.
10:48This guy could be anywhere by now.
10:51The FBI is going to have to come in and do their thing.
10:53But Providence is on edge.
10:55They're being told to remain calm, but don't have a lot of confidence in city officials.
11:01There's been no new, credible, specific threat anywhere in the Providence community.
11:08With respect, Mayor, there was no rest made prior to the shooting.
11:11So how can people feel safe with that information?
11:14The way in which we are trying to reassure our residents is through a noted, visible police
11:20presence throughout the community.
11:22The shooter could still be in Providence, or he could be in Virginia.
11:27Mayor Smiley says he went to go look for him at a pizza joint and grabbed the slice while
11:33he was on the clock.
11:33I talked to one of the women at Antonio's, which some of you know is a pizza by the slice
11:40joint.
11:41And she said, you know, I didn't need, I didn't want to come to work today, but I needed to,
11:46I needed to work.
11:47I needed to take the shift.
11:49And, and that's a very real thing happening in our community right now.
11:53The best video we have of this guy is a ring camera shot where you can't see his face,
11:58but Mayor Smiley says he just wants to go to bed.
12:03Everyone you see behind us.
12:04We've all been working for now 49 hours.
12:08We're tired.
12:10Tired.
12:11Two students are dead, nine in the hospital, and you have no clue what happened.
12:17Smiley wasn't tired when he was marching for gay pride or fighting Trump.
12:23The question is, is whether actions like this will actually help us get to zero.
12:27I don't think they will.
12:28Community policing works.
12:30Having local law enforcement with a relationship with the neighborhoods that they are policing
12:35and patrolling works, sending in, uh, national guards, men and women who, uh, have not been
12:41trained in, in urban policing, are not, uh, trained community police officers isn't going
12:47to make our cities any safer.
12:49Imagine if they had the national guard in Providence, that shooter probably wouldn't have opened fire.
12:55The Rhode Island attorney general, all he does is sue Trump and resist ice.
13:00And his office is completely out of control.
13:02His assistant is the lawyer who got intoxicated last summer and assaulted officers.
13:07Remember?
13:08I don't want to arrest you guys.
13:09You're important.
13:10You're not going to arrest us.
13:11I'm an aging.
13:12I'm an aging.
13:13Good for you.
13:13I don't give a shit.
13:14I'm an aging.
13:15I'm an aging.
13:17I'm an aging.
13:18Buddy, you're going to regret this.
13:19Yeah.
13:20You're going to regret it.
13:22I'm an aging.
13:24What kind of office is this guy running?
13:26Families want answers.
13:27Hundreds of students just fled campus.
13:29The city's on a brink.
13:31And the locals are whining that they're tired.
13:34Every day the manhunt goes on, the less likely it is to get justice.
13:38Let's hope they crack this case.
13:40If you have any information, please reach out to the FBI and the Providence Police Department.
13:46Former FBI agent Stuart Kaplan.
13:49Are you as frustrated as I am, Stuart?
13:51I am, Jesse.
13:54And I think what you're seeing played out is the cascading impact of early mistakes that are now amplified 72 hours later.
14:03You know, Jesse, when the shooting stopped and law enforcement arrived on scene, the first thing is, obviously, to try to figure out who they're looking for, locate, identify and apprehend or neutralize that person.
14:16And at the same time, try to triage and give life saving measures to those that are still alive.
14:22It's funny.
14:23I guess it's not funny, but it's concerning that.
14:27Did the campus police not segregate or retain those witnesses or keep them isolated?
14:34What happened to the eyewitnesses in that classroom?
14:38Were they, you know, hunkered down?
14:40Were they separated?
14:41Were all the things that should be done to maintain the integrity of a crime scene?
14:46And are we seeing those early missteps or why we are here now, three or almost 72 hours later, with no further along than we were on Saturday at four o'clock when the shooting unfolded?
14:58Well, I think we know the answer to that question and the question and the answer is no, because Brown University just put out on social media.
15:05If you were in that classroom, if you were an eyewitness, please come forward and talk to us.
15:10And so you could answer.
15:12So obviously these people were not quarantined and they have no idea who the witnesses were and where they are now.
15:18When the police chief comes out and doesn't say anything and changes the story and the mayor says he's tired.
15:26I mean, that just drives me crazy.
15:30I mean, who are these people running this investigation?
15:33Well, to that point, Jesse, when I see political figures basically taking control and dictating the narrative and almost stifling or suppressing the police chief from giving additional information.
15:47And you saw your soundbite where the mayor kind of put his hand on the shoulder of the police chief and kind of told him to stand down.
15:54That is very telling to me that I think that politics or the image or the maintaining of the image of Brown University is front and center.
16:04This university has a lot to lose.
16:06In fact, it has everything on the line right now.
16:08And I think that you see the city elected officials trying to preserve and protect the university's image and reputation.
16:16When you have the president of the university can't even tell you what the class was or how many students were there or what they were actually doing.
16:23That's not credible to me, Jesse.
16:25Of course, that woman knew exactly how many kids were in that class, what the class was designed for, what kind of class was.
16:31Look, I know most of the kids in that class were freshmen or sophomores.
16:34They were taking some sort of engineering class.
16:36I can tell you that the shooters stepped in from the top, walking down into a lector.
16:41I mean, I have more information than the president.
16:44I mean, that's just impossible.
16:46And so when you lose your credibility and quite frankly, the reputation of any law enforcement agency is quickly eroded and we can't no longer trust what's coming out of their mouths.
16:57The other unfortunate thing, Jesse, quite frankly, is this person of interest that they kept for 24 hours.
17:02All of those potential leads are now maybe forever lost because people left Brown.
17:09Maybe they went home.
17:10Maybe they were on Christmas break.
17:11We don't know where those people are.
17:13Maybe they now are no longer interested in providing credible information.
17:18There's a lot of blunder here.
17:19And that's what you're seeing played out.
17:21You're exactly right.
17:22I think it stems from protecting the university above everything else.
17:27Stuart, great to see you.
17:30Co-host of In Pursuit, Callahan Walsh.
17:33So we got new video surveillance.
17:35We believe these are ring camera surveillance footage.
17:40And what do you think you're looking at right here?
17:44The guy's gait, his size, his face is covered.
17:47What do you see?
17:49You know, I think we're lucky with at least they're releasing this to us because there's been such little amount of information that the public can act on.
17:59Right here in the video, as you pointed out, light skinned, chubby sort of build, looks a little bit older.
18:06My first initial thoughts was possibly a student.
18:10That may still be the case, although this individual to me looks a little bit older than that.
18:14But we still can't see his face.
18:15We got no identifiable markings, black clothing, mask over the face.
18:20There's such little to go on.
18:21So you've done these manhunts.
18:23You understand the situation.
18:25Three days out, no real leads.
18:28What does that tell you?
18:31When I heard that they had released the person of interest, my heart sank because I know how precious those moments are, those hours of investigation that they poured into this person of interest that have now gone by the wayside.
18:45They have to start this investigation all over again.
18:47They probably have to go back and interview all of the students that were in the room that day.
18:51And the fact that they don't even know who those students were, that they're guessing on.
18:55And, hey, reach out to us if you were in that room.
18:59It's shocking the way this investigation is going.
19:02It's really appalling.
19:03Okay.
19:05What does it tell you that this guy is wandering around casing the place?
19:10He knows what building to go into.
19:13He's avoided whatever surveillance cameras Brown has.
19:17And then the police come out later and say, remain calm.
19:21Everything's fine.
19:22Does that point to a targeted attack?
19:25Like he was looking to kill one person in particular?
19:28You know, it does seem like a targeted attack to me.
19:33I'm not sure if the target was the person or the university itself, just to draw fear, maybe even cancel the exams.
19:42We know this is a time where these finals are happening.
19:45Maybe this is a student that didn't want to take their finals and took this horrible approach to preventing that.
19:50This individual did walk around campus, and while there should be cameras everywhere, miraculously, they avoided almost all of them.
19:58So perhaps they knew exactly where those cameras were, where they could get in and around and get into that building.
20:04We know the building was unlocked, but those classrooms did require badges.
20:09There's badge readers at the entrance of those classrooms.
20:11I imagine if he'd keyed into one of those rooms, perhaps that badge reader would collect that data.
20:16And if they're not looking at that information, you know, like I said, there's been so many blunders in this investigation so far.
20:23My hope is that the public can be the force multiplier that they are.
20:26Jesse, you know your audience, the audience of America's Most Wanted in pursuit.
20:31They are the force multiplier.
20:32They're the eyes and the ears.
20:33Give us something so our citizens, our community can fight back and find this individual.
20:38Yeah, we're praying for a swift resolution to this.
20:41Thank you so much.
20:43Breaking news on Rob Reiner's murder.
20:47James Woods is here.
20:52Fox News alert.
20:53Rob Reiner and his wife found dead inside their $13 million Los Angeles mansion.
20:58Both fatally stabbed to death.
21:00Their son, Nick Reiner, was immediately a suspect, was arrested, and now is on suicide watch.
21:06Rob Reiner leaves behind a legacy.
21:09The actor and director was a fixture in Hollywood for decades.
21:13President Trump was asked about the murders today.
21:16Mr. President, a number of Republicans have denounced your statement on True Social after the murder of Rob Reiner.
21:23Do you stand by that post?
21:24Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all.
21:26He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned.
21:30So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form.
21:34I thought he was very bad for our country.
21:36Whoa.
21:38This is the deadliest knife attack in Brentwood since OJ.
21:41According to reports, Reiner had scheduled a massage for the day he was killed.
21:46When the masseuse arrived, she repeatedly knocked and rang the bell before realizing something was wrong.
21:51So she contacted Reiner's daughter, who lived across the street.
21:55When the daughter entered the home, she found both parents dead and called 911.
21:59And immediately identified a dangerous relative as a likely suspect.
22:05A tip that led to her brother, Nick.
22:08Rob Reiner and Nick had a heated argument the night before at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party.
22:14Reports say it was about Nick possibly being back on drugs and refusing yet another treatment.
22:20Quote, Nick was freaking everyone out, acting crazy, kept asking people if they were famous.
22:27Sources say Rob Reiner believed his son was deteriorating.
22:30Nick spent his life battling addiction, cocaine, heroin, pills.
22:36He was sent to rehab when he was just 15.
22:40By the time he was 22, he'd gone to rehab 17 times.
22:45And when he refused treatment, he drifted, sleeping on the streets across the country.
22:50From Maine to New Jersey, Texas.
22:52The list goes on.
22:53In one interview, Nick said this, quote, when I was out there, I could have died.
22:58It's all luck.
22:59You roll the dice and you hope you make it.
23:02He wasn't shy about his struggles.
23:05I went 10 rounds with my guest house.
23:06Not much of a story.
23:08I got totally spun out on uppers.
23:10I think it was coke and something else.
23:13And I was up for days on end.
23:15And I started punching out different things in my guest house.
23:20Rob said he regretted the way the rehab stints were handled.
23:24Nick did eventually get clean.
23:26A decade ago, Rob made a movie based on his son's struggles with addiction.
23:31Rob directed.
23:32Nick co-wrote the script.
23:34I think the bonding came not from the story itself, but from the fact that we were working
23:41on a movie together.
23:42We didn't bond a lot as a kid.
23:44Like, he really liked baseball.
23:45I like basketball.
23:46And he could watch that with my brother.
23:47But Nick had dangerous and violent tendencies.
23:51Everyone saw it coming.
23:53A former classmate said this.
23:55He's always been troubled and that she instantly knew it was him when she heard the news.
24:00One neighbor said, quote, this is not the first time their son has been violent.
24:04I know of another incident a few years back with Nick.
24:07I know they wanted to get him help, go to rehab, but he wanted to get help while at home.
24:12He did not want to get treatment at a facility.
24:1417 trips to rehab, something's not working.
24:19He didn't want to go.
24:20He didn't buy in and he wanted to get treated at home, which doesn't work.
24:24Do you institutionalize your own kid because he keeps bailing out of rehab and sleeping on
24:29the streets?
24:31What do you do?
24:32What do you do as a dad?
24:34Nick's being held on no bail and will likely spend the rest of his life in prison.
24:39California does not have the death penalty.
24:41Another reminder why narcotics are extremely dangerous, not just for the user, but everyone
24:48around them.
24:49Also, another reminder that rehab is not the silver bullet.
24:53If the patient doesn't want it, it won't work.
24:56Sometimes incarceration is the only solution.
24:59What a horrible tragedy.
25:01Many people suffer through a family member's addiction.
25:04We say a prayer to everybody out there dealing with this epidemic.
25:08Anyway, actor James Woods thing and, you know, kidding each other.
25:13And they go, how is it that you and Rob Reiner are friends?
25:17And I said, well, what do you mean?
25:20They said, well, you are so different in your politics and so on.
25:23I said, look, let me explain something about Rob Reiner so that you know.
25:27First of all, I judge people by how they treat me.
25:29And Rob Reiner was a godsend in my life.
25:32We got along great.
25:34We loved each other.
25:36We had more fun together doing a very serious subject.
25:39It was a way to kind of get through it.
25:42And he was always on my side.
25:44But when people would say to me, well, what do you think of his politics?
25:48I would say, I think Rob Reiner is a great patriot.
25:51Do I agree with some of or many of his ideas on how that patriotism should be enacted to
25:58celebrate the America that we both love?
26:01No, but he doesn't agree with me either.
26:03But he also respects my patriotism.
26:06We had a different path to the same destination, which was a country we both loved.
26:13And when people would say terrible things to me on social media about him, I said, you
26:17got it all wrong.
26:19And yes, I can see how you can disagree with him.
26:22But because you disagree with people, does it mean that you have to hate people?
26:27And what Rob and I could do, Rob and I could sit in a room.
26:31I could sit in a room with Sean Penn, by the way.
26:33I could sit in a room with a lot of my liberal friends and say, look, I think you're wrong
26:37about this, this and this.
26:38And they could say the same to me.
26:40And we would find a way to work it out.
26:42And that was one of the great things about him.
26:44He was a real thinker when you had a chance to talk to him.
26:49And a lot of people just don't think anymore.
26:52And look, I knew he.
26:53And by the way, we're talking about a tragedy here about Rob and Michelle, two extraordinary,
27:01lovely people.
27:02And you can't forget how important it is because that marriage, Michelle did in Rob's life
27:09what Rob did in my life at a time when I needed him.
27:13And all I've ever said about Rob Reiner is he's somebody I love, respect and cherish.
27:19And when my friend Carol called me and said, listen, I want you to hear about this before
27:23it's on the news.
27:25Rob and Michelle were murdered.
27:26And I literally said, Rob and Michelle who?
27:32She goes, Reiner.
27:34And I said, I literally, you know, when you can't breathe, I literally said, uh, and I
27:43said, was it a home invasion?
27:44And she said, we don't know, but it may have been Nick.
27:49Oh, and I'm telling you, I just felt a floor.
27:52So I just felt my heart drop.
27:54And I just thought, what Tracy's going to go through?
27:59You know, what did you?
28:00Did you have?
28:01Did you have any family?
28:03Did you have any idea that this would come at the hands of the son?
28:09No, I did not.
28:10No, I, that was not, I didn't know the children very well, except Tracy, because I'd also done
28:14a movie with Penny.
28:16So Tracy was around a lot.
28:18And, you know, I, I, I just, I knew them through work and you learn everything you need
28:23to know about people when you're working on a movie.
28:26You know, it was, uh, it was an extraordinary experience on that movie.
28:30I worked with, um, Rob and Whoopi, Whoopi and I were such, Whoopi Goldberg, uh, played
28:36Merle Evers.
28:37And we got along so well and people are shocked when I speak well of Whoopi Goldberg, but I
28:43love Whoopi and I love the way she treated me on the movie.
28:46And, you know, it was a very happy experience and a very powerful one.
28:52And Rob's dedication to telling the story of Medgar Evers' assassination, um, and the
29:02way in particular Rob spoke, and you mentioned this, it was mentioned on, on Laura Ingram's
29:08show about how Rob talked when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
29:14I knew Charlie Kirk, I supported him, uh, we'd, I, I'd seen him, uh, uh, last year just
29:22before Christmas, um, and to know that he had been assassinated was so devastating, people
29:29said such horrible things, and Rob did not.
29:34And when people say horrible things about Rob right now, I find it, quite frankly, infuriating,
29:41uh, and distasteful.
29:44Did I agree with his politics?
29:45I did not.
29:46Did I love him as a friend, as an artist, as an icon of Hollywood?
29:50And as a patriot, I most certainly did.
29:54And I am just absolutely devastated by this terrible event, especially for his family.
30:02Yeah.
30:02And for all of America and for film lovers across the world.
30:05Well, we can tell how much he meant to you and the great effect he had on your life and
30:11your career.
30:11And we can tell the deep friendship that you guys cherished.
30:16Um, what next?
30:18I mean, this, this, this country is like, you got a shooting at an Ivy league school.
30:22You got, you got Afghan migrants mowing down national guard.
30:27You get knife attacks in, in Brentwood again.
30:30Like what the hell is going on with this country?
30:34You know, Jesse, several times we tried to get together.
30:38And once it was around the time of the Palisades fire, another time I had emergency heart surgery
30:43and I thought, Oh, I'm finally going to get to talk to Jesse under the worst circumstances
30:46possible.
30:48I had another emergency surgery six weeks ago.
30:51And my beloved wife, Sarah just started sobbing.
30:53And I said, what's the matter?
30:54She said, this has been such a horrible year.
30:58You know, Charlie was murdered.
31:01And when this happened, I just looked at her and she said, I would give anything for this
31:07to be new year's day, 2026, because this has been the worst year I could ever experience.
31:12I mean, the world is going insane.
31:16And by the way, you just glossed over this, but these drugs that people are on at prescription
31:23as well as the illegal drugs.
31:27I, you know, I watch football.
31:28I don't usually watch network television, but I was watching football and they advertise
31:33one drug after another, after another.
31:34You look at the fine print and, you know, suicidal tendencies and homicidal tendencies.
31:39And, you know, the list of side effects.
31:42And I'm thinking, if everybody's on this stuff, just the sheer mathematical possibility of insane
31:49behavior, violent, insane behavior has got to be taking place.
31:54I'm not talking about this case because I don't know the facts of the Nick situation.
32:02I know we've been in rehab and so on, but it's not my place to judge.
32:05But you're asking about the world in general.
32:07I mean, I grew up seven miles from Brown University.
32:10I was offered a scholarship to Brown University.
32:13It's a beautiful, beautiful campus.
32:16It's gone very left-leaning in its teaching protocols and so on.
32:24So did it surprise me that one of the victims was a beautiful, lovely 19-year-old young woman
32:32who was the head of the Young Republican Club?
32:34I don't know if the motive of the killer was political, but I'm not surprised that the one
32:40who got murdered that we all hear about of the others who were also shot was, you know,
32:47a young conservative.
32:48It doesn't surprise me.
32:49Yeah, it wouldn't shock me if she was targeted.
32:51It doesn't surprise me when I hear that, look, I'm a Roman Catholic.
32:57I have a lot of Jewish friends.
32:59And I say to all of them, you've got to be careful.
33:03There is now a jihad against Jews in the world.
33:07And people are just upfront about it.
33:09They're just saying it.
33:10There's, you know, this country over the past four years, and, you know, I don't want to
33:16get into policies.
33:16I want to talk about Rob, but, you know, there has been an invasion in this country that if
33:21you look at Europe and see how far ahead the invasion is progressing there, that is going
33:27to end this country as we know it if we don't figure it out.
33:31Yep.
33:31We got to lock down the borders and we have to stop being so insane.
33:36Woods, you're the best.
33:38I'm glad.
33:39I'm glad you're on.
33:40I hate that it's under these circumstances.
33:43We're big fans of you here at primetime, and it was really special and a real honor for
33:49you to come on and tell us about your relationship with Ron Ronner.
33:52Thank you so much.
33:54More primetime straight ahead.
33:55Thank you, Justin.
33:55I really appreciate it.
33:59Fox News alert.
34:00The FBI just busted a planned terror attack scheduled for New Year's Eve.
34:04Senior National Correspondent Kevin Cork has the disturbing details.
34:08Kevin.
34:09Evening, Jesse.
34:10America is a bit safer tonight thanks to the FBI.
34:13The Bureau foiling a, quote, credible terrorist threat in California over the weekend.
34:18The agency says four individual alleged members of a radical pro-Palestinian extremist group
34:23were actually planning New Year's Eve bombings in Los Angeles.
34:27In fact, the DOJ says three of the four arrested in California brought potassium nitrate, PVC pipes,
34:34and other bomb-making materials to the campsite in the Mojave Desert for testing.
34:39Now, according to authorities, the planned attacks were intended to be coordinated over
34:44five separate locations throughout the Southland.
34:47Assistant U.S.
34:47Attorney Bill Asseli identifying the individuals as Audrey Carroll, Zachary Aaron Page, Dante
34:53Gaffield, and Tina Lye, each charged with conspiracy and possession of a destructive device.
35:00They're believed to be connected to an extremist group known as TILF.
35:03That's T-I-L-F.
35:05It's an acronym for Turtle Island Liberation Front.
35:08In case you don't know this, Turtle Island is an indigenous moniker for the whole of North
35:14America, and theirs is a pro-Palestinian, anti-law enforcement, anti-government group.
35:21According to the group's Instagram, they are advocating for, quote, freeing the world from
35:26American imperialism, saying it's the only way to a safe and peaceful future.
35:31Mind you, they say all that while also adding, quote, revolution is the only way, stop peaceful
35:36protesting, rise up and fight back.
35:39Meantime, H.E.
35:40Pam Bondi posted this on X.
35:42This was an incredible effort by our U.S.
35:44Attorney's offices and the FBI to ensure Americans can live in peace.
35:49We will continue to pursue these terror groups and bring them to justice.
35:53By the way, over in New Orleans, I just got this, Jesse.
35:56They arrested a fifth individual connected to this terror group.
36:00Jesse.
36:01Wow.
36:01Great job by the FBI.
36:02Yeah.
36:03Thank you so much.
36:04You bet.
36:04Another Fox News alert, 15 people dead and 40 hospitalized after a radical Islamist father-son
36:12duo opened fire on a Hanukkah celebration in Australia in what turned out to be the deadliest
36:19attack on Jews since October 7th.
36:22I saw children falling to the floor, elderly I saw, invalids I saw, people just, it was
36:37an absolute blood, blood gushing everywhere.
36:39You know, October 7th, that's the last time I saw this.
36:42Tonight I was at an event where I was saying to members of the Jewish community, I said,
36:51isn't it, isn't it great that we are ending the year on a high after such a devastating start
36:58to the year?
37:01And here we are.
37:02Police say the attack was inspired by the pair's allegiance to ISIS.
37:06They found two ISIS flags in their vehicle and two active explosive devices at the scene.
37:13The 50-year-old father, Sajid Akram, died at the scene.
37:18He came to Australia in 1998 on a student visa and remained on visas ever since.
37:23His son, 24-year-old Navid Akram, was born in Australia.
37:27Authorities investigated him six years ago for potential ISIS ties, but later deemed he
37:33posed no ongoing threat.
37:35He was hospitalized with critical injuries.
37:39Australia has some of the strictest gun laws in the world.
37:42Yet the father was a lawful gun owner for a decade.
37:45He had six firearms, was a member of a gun club and held a recreational hunting license.
37:51Even after his family was investigated for terror ties, he appeared highly trained.
37:57Firing four shots in just over five seconds using a bolt-action rifle.
38:02Extremely fast for any civilian.
38:05Most active shooter incidents end in five minutes or less, but this one lasted nearly 30 minutes
38:11until a heroic bystander took matters into his own hands, rushing one of the gunmen and
38:17wrestling away his weapon.
38:19He's now in the hospital, riddled with bullets, but he said he'd do it again.
38:23Bondi Beach was a war zone for almost half an hour.
38:28And where were the police?
38:29The attack was one block from the nearest station.
38:34One witness says he watched four officers stand there for 20 minutes.
38:38He says it looked like police just froze.
38:42The gunmen even changed magazines.
38:44Australia's gun laws aren't working.
38:46The bad guys have guns and the good guys don't.
38:49Even watching the footage, I've wondered how many of the police officers even had guns in
38:55responding to that, because it's not even necessarily common for police officers to have them.
38:59If Australia's gun laws are so strict, how does a Muslim immigrant family on a terror watch
39:04list have six guns?
39:06The laws are clearly strict on the wrong people.
39:11Australia's Muslim populations almost tripled in just two decades.
39:14And during that time, anti-Semitic incidents didn't just rise, they've exploded.
39:20Synagons firebombed.
39:22Jewish homes vandalized.
39:24Radicals marching in the streets, chanting, gas the Jews.
39:36Globalize the Intifada.
39:38That's what that means.
39:39Just months ago, Israeli intelligence warned Australia about ISIS and Iran-linked threats.
39:46And it doesn't look like they took it that seriously.
39:50Anti-Semitism festered throughout Australia because leaders were too busy appeasing,
39:55too scared of being called Islamophobic.
39:57They'd rather talk about conservative extremists.
40:00We take Asia's advice very seriously.
40:04We work closely with them.
40:06We receive regular updates as well.
40:08The Director General of Asia has warned about a range of threats, be it anti-Semitism,
40:19the rise of right-wing extremist groups as well.
40:22And we continue to work closely with our security agencies.
40:25They say the real threat is the right, so they need more gun control and more diversity.
40:33We should try and detoxify the way that we think of people who aren't like us because our diversity in this country is our strength.
40:40This is the problem.
40:42Leaders pretending every ideology and culture just melts into the West with no consequences.
40:48We let in Somalis that rob us blind.
40:51Biden let in an Afghan refugee who killed two guardsmen and illegals who rape and murder women.
40:57That's why Trump's turning off the faucet of migration.
41:00He's defending our values, borders, and our people.
41:03Gad Saad, author of Suicidal Empathy, and visiting scholar Ole Miss, joins me now.
41:11You know, it's really weird to hear these leaders talk about diversity after importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims
41:18who clearly aren't getting along very well with the people of Australia.
41:22It's unbelievable.
41:25You know, as you know, Jesse, I've been warning about this for several decades.
41:29Let's draw an analogy.
41:30Suppose you get married and there is diversity of thought in terms about being monogamous.
41:36You want to have sex with as many women as possible, whereas your wife thinks that it's a good idea to be only true to one person.
41:44That type of diversity within that union is probably not going to lead to good outcomes.
41:49Islam may contain many adherents that are perfectly lovely, but does Islam contain tenets that are perfectly incongruent with Western liberties?
42:01Nothing could be clearer.
42:02We don't need this kind of diversity.
42:04It's very hard to screen those types of Muslims out.
42:08I mean, you can't just screen away people like that.
42:11I mean, they can radicalize.
42:12They can self-radicalize.
42:14They can hide from customs and Border Patrol agents their true intentions.
42:18I mean, what is the solution?
42:20Uh, I don't like the term they can get radicalized.
42:24That's it's as though that's outside the religion, right?
42:28There is no Islamism.
42:29There is no radical, violent, extremist, extremist militantism, right?
42:36You don't just add a bunch of isms and a bunch of qualifiers so that you can hallucinate about it being different from Islam.
42:44Islam is a codified set of ideas.
42:46If I choose to ignore much of it, I will be peaceful.
42:51If I choose to take it seriously, I won't be peaceful.
42:54So it's not radicalization.
42:57It's simply whether I adhere to the tenets of the faith or I don't.
43:01And so you to your point, you could never vet someone because these are people who had been the father had been there since the 90s.
43:08The son was born there.
43:09So certainly from any vetting perspective, you would think they're well acclimatized to Western liberties.
43:16And it just takes one trigger and off we go.
43:19Unbelievable.
43:20And we are getting additional reporting that one is still fighting for their life.
43:25So thank God.
43:26Gad Saad, great to talk to as always, even under these tragic circumstances.
43:31More primetime straight ahead.
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