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00:00is next. Good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram. This is the Ingram Angle from Washington
00:06tonight. As always, thanks for spending some time with us. Right off the bat, we have a Fox News
00:10alert. President Trump just announced he's designated Venezuela as a foreign terrorist
00:15organization and ordering a complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers going in and out
00:24of the country. That is big. And it looks like that new national security strategy they announced
00:30is in operation. Focus on our hemisphere. But first, in the aftermath of any crisis,
00:37especially where innocent Americans are dead, we're not reassured by cliches or weasel words.
00:45We want competence and we want strength. But in the Brown University investigation,
00:50we're getting neither. Not from the state AG, Peter Narona. What's really critical first is that
00:56we identify who the person is. You know, once we identify who this person is, I believe we'll be
01:02able to locate him. It's very hard to hide in this country. You don't say. You need to identify him
01:08and locate him? OK. And why are they still not giving us any description of the shooter from the witnesses
01:15who saw the individual enter that lecture hall and also who heard what he may have shouted?
01:23Well, apparently they don't have that info yet. It's now been more than three days since a gunman
01:29opened fire in a classroom at Brown and still no one in custody. But instead, police are begging for
01:34help. We're asking the public to look. If you have any camera systems or any Tesla, like I mentioned,
01:41that you look at that footage and that you can reach out to us and please provide us anything
01:45that you have. And we're asking you to go back at least a week to do that.
01:50And just hours ago, they released an enhanced video timeline of a person of interest.
01:55Now, the compilation traces that that individual in 15 different video clips from Saturday afternoon.
02:02Now, perhaps most notable here are the last two videos of the timeline. Video from 2.53 p.m.
02:08from a Nissan Rogue captures the person of interest walking. Now, you can see the engineering and
02:14physics building in the background. One of the new videos prior to the shooting,
02:20this person's interest is seen running. At this point, do you have any inkling why he's running?
02:26We're still investigating that, but we do know that he was case in the area. And again,
02:31that's what criminals do prior to coming in the crime.
02:33The next video at 4.03 p.m. shows the shooter in the distance walking away from the area.
02:41And what's right next to him? A police car with flashing lights. It's chilling.
02:45Now, the final video is at 4.06 p.m. showing him walking north on Hope Street.
02:53Well, for anyone who questions the handling of this investigation thus far, the attorney general
02:58offered this. The investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one,
03:04it's going really well. The on the third floor of this building, there are dozens of agents,
03:11detectives led by Providence Police, prosecutors from my office working to put together. And what
03:17you're seeing is just a portion of what they're working on right now. Rhode Islanders should take
03:23confidence in their work. They should keep him off television. And while parents, students and
03:29faculty are understandably furious regarding the lack of surveillance video at the entrances to the
03:36buildings and the lecture halls, the university president almost seemed offended. Brown is deeply
03:42committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community. And I've been deeply saddened to
03:48see people questioning that. We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct
03:56to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this. Anxiety and fear is very natural. But the shooter
04:04is responsible. Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others.
04:11And it's deeply sad and tragic that schools across the country are targets of violence. Brown is no exception.
04:18Well, she kind of slipped there because she's, she's obviously, you know, for gun control,
04:22but she said, well, the shooter's responsible. Oh, then gun violence. Well, of course the shooter's
04:26responsible. Yeah, she's right. But the university has an $8 billion endowment and should obviously
04:33have high resolution surveillance video everywhere. Now, many are still urging for the sake of transparency
04:40that all video, all video should be released.
04:44How does a multimillion dollar school not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway?
04:48There are cameras in the newer part of the building and there is video footage. Okay. So
04:53there's the back part of the building, old part and front part, new part. The shooting occurs in the
04:58old part towards the back, up towards Hope Street. And that older part of the building, there are
05:03fewer, if any cameras in that location. The only video of the, of the presumed, anticipated,
05:12suspected, however you want to define it, person of interest, you have it. We would release it
05:17if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject.
05:21Okay. First of all, did you hear what he said? He said, well, there are fewer, if any cameras in the
05:28old part of the building. That begs the question, why is that? I mean, home surveillance systems have
05:36high resolution night vision cameras. Why doesn't Brown University? But nevertheless, despite no arrests,
05:43residents are told you should feel safe.
05:45Since the initial call came in at 4.05 p.m. on Saturday, we have not received, and this is now
05:53updated with another 24 hours have passed, a single credible specific threat to the area, to the city
06:02related to this event. The best information we have is that there is no credible, actionable,
06:10specific threat that has occurred since Saturday. And in order to enhance and ensure the safety of
06:20our community, we have stepped up law enforcement efforts throughout the city.
06:25There's no credible threat, but we've stepped up law enforcement efforts because you deserve safety.
06:31So tonight, as investigators keep asking for help from the public, they're examining this man's gait,
06:37how he walks, his mannerisms. Young people don't usually clasp their hands behind their back.
06:42They're looking at his coat, the type of glasses he wore. They're looking for,
06:47it looks like a cross body bag he was carrying in one video, but not in another.
06:51They're examining cell phone records and any items thrown on the ground nearby.
06:57Meanwhile, only a 90 minute drive from the shooting, an MIT professor of nuclear science,
07:04FG Lorero, was murdered at his home. Is there any connection between the shootings?
07:11At this time, we have no idea. Here with us is Randy Sutton, retired Las Vegas police lieutenant,
07:17and John Kripinski, former Connecticut police sergeant. Randy, I want to circle back to this idea
07:23that we don't know what the gunman said in the classroom. We know there was an individual
07:32who came face to face with him, who was a TA, who was in that lecture hall. And we know there
07:39are a number of other witnesses to what happened to the carnage. Why would that still not be released
07:46at this point? That's a great question. And I think perhaps the the reason may be that they are
07:54concerned about people who may want to confess to this that didn't actually do it. So they're keeping
08:00something back from the public and giving that information out. That's that's only a conjecture
08:07at this point. But what really I find astounding is some of the comments made by the officials
08:12like there's no credible threat. I mean, there's there's bodies in the in the classroom. People shot.
08:19The individual is still at large. And that is a credible threat. And then and then the the the comment
08:26by the by the woman at the school talking about the gun violence. I mean, it's astounding that they're
08:34trying to push the the the the the the lack of security. And they're they're just pushing that
08:42away. That's that's very disturbing. Well, John, I guess they said at some point this afternoon,
08:47there's no connection with the MIT shooting. But the fact that people are still wondering about
08:52that tells you there's not a lot of confidence thus far. And I know people need to be patient.
08:58And and law enforcement investigation is painstakingly slow at times. But it was pointed
09:05out today that police dogs were still sniffing the area as well. Would that area be compromised
09:13three days later? Or is that normal? Yes. Well, I mean, three days later, it is going to be
09:19compromised. You know, those are some things that we generally do, you know, as soon as
09:23it happens. There's some other things here that and again, those press conferences, I couldn't
09:28really relish enough information from to to make some decisions. But what I can say is,
09:33you got to remember, the FBI is also investigating this. And under Patel and Bongino, these guys are
09:40pretty good now. They're back to a respectable FBI. Some of the things that they're going to be
09:45doing to figure this out that we might not be hearing from or seeing because they're not at
09:49the press conferences. But like you can take like the flock LPRs, the license plate readers,
09:55I would be checking every inbound car prior to the shooting and every outbound car prior to the
10:02shooting. They can also check traffic cams. If you shoot somebody, you're likely to be running at a
10:07higher rate of speed. You may blow a red light. You're going to garner a list from each of those.
10:13Some of the other things. And we saw a little bit of it. They're starting to release some of the
10:17video. But Ring cameras are very good. They seem to have narrowed down some areas where he is.
10:23If they now go to Ring and start researching all of those cameras where they are, we might be able
10:28to see this guy getting into a car somewhere. And lastly, that the FBI is very, very good at.
10:35And I'm not going to give away any trade secrets, but I will say we have the ability to
10:41get a list of every cell phone that was in that area during the time of shooting.
10:46With that list, we can get the list the day before the shooting, the day of the shooting,
10:51and the day after the shooting. And with that list, we can narrow down. All of the students will
10:57probably be there the first two days. We can look at area codes that are outside of the area.
11:03These are going to generate a much larger list. But if we now start comparing all three of these lists
11:09together, that's going to narrow down a suspect list. So these are some of the things we're
11:13probably having. I have great confidence in the new FBI that they're probably already doing,
11:18and we might start to hear about next week. Randy, are you surprised that the FBI hasn't
11:23taken over these press conferences? Because once you get the Brown University president,
11:28she's worried about lawsuits, right? She's worried about what's coming. And so everyone's in kind of
11:33CYA mode. I mean, they obviously want this solved. Everyone's agonizingly sad about the loss of life
11:38fear. Two individuals lost their lives, others still fighting for theirs. But it would seem like
11:44this whole thing would be streamlined if it was Bongino and Patel's people running the whole
11:51operation. Or is that just heavy footing and we don't want to do that? No. Well, there is not a
11:57federal nexus to this particular crime. This is a state crime that will not be investigated by the FBI
12:05unless there was a federal nexus. So they're working in a support role. And of course,
12:11they're working diligently with the detectives from the Providence police and with the AG's office.
12:17But this is a Providence PD investigation. Now, one of the things that they're actually, I'm sure,
12:23looking at is this is where victimology plays a major role in trying to determine why did this
12:29individual pick this particular classroom at this particular time with those particular victims.
12:35And so looking at at the victims that they're passed and trying to determine whether there was
12:41a connection to where there were, you know, credible threats to them. That's part of the this
12:47investigative process. Randy, John, we hope someone is in custody in short order because people are
12:54still on edge understandably. We appreciate it. Thanks so much. All right. Well, enough with the
13:01coddling of the DEI, multiculturalism, all the junk that the left stands for. What we've allowed to
13:08happen over the years is a total remaking of our society with people who don't like us. And all we need
13:15to do is look at what other countries see that our future could look like. What's happening there
13:20in Europe? Open air Christmas markets are being treated as high risk targets. French officials
13:26have canceled an annual New Year's Eve celebration in Paris over the threat of migrant violence.
13:31And in Australia, one of the suspects accused of gunning down people at a Hanukkah celebration
13:36investigated in 2019 for links to an ISIS cell. He was never arrested. Leading up to the attack,
13:43the father son terror duo traveled to the Philippines where ISIS militants are known to operate.
13:48It would appear that there is evidence that this was inspired by a terrorist organization by ISIS.
13:57Now, some of the evidence which has been procured, including the presence of Islamic state flags in the
14:06vehicle that has been seized. Radical perversion of Islam is absolutely a problem. ISIS is created by
14:18an evil ideology that has been called out, not just by the Australian government, but globally as well.
14:29This should serve as a warning to our country. What happened in Australia could easily happen here,
14:34especially if we continue to be lax about who we let into the country.
14:38Here with us is Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno. Senator, what do we need to learn here? Assimilation is
14:46somewhat better here, I think, than in other countries. But nevertheless, with Biden's open
14:51border, even though we deported 600,000, we have a lot of people still here who shouldn't be.
14:57Yeah, look, we have to treat America like our home because it is our home, Laura. That means we invite
15:02people here on our terms. Assimilation is the first level of requirement to come here. You have to learn
15:08our language. You can't be dependent on social safety programs. And even the visitors that come
15:13into our country, we have to be careful. Look, at the end of the day, our job here in Washington,
15:18D.C. is to protect the people of the United States of America. Biden completely abdicated that
15:23responsibility. We have to fix it. We have to turbocharge deportations and get serious about making
15:29certain that we never let something like that happen again. Well, Senator, what are you doing
15:33to ensure that this happens on a congressional senatorial level? Because as far as I can tell,
15:39the U.S. Senate is, you know, resting on its big, beautiful Bill laurels, which that I mean,
15:45that's not going to that's not going to address this issue other than the fact that we funded
15:49we funded deportation efforts. Thank goodness. But other than that, what are you going to do?
15:55Well, we funded deportation. We funded the border wall. We funded border security,
16:00funded our military. So we did a lot in the working families tax cut bill. But the other
16:05thing we have to do is we need to put these executive orders into legislation. As we turn
16:09the page from 25 to 26, that's got to be what we focus on here in the Senate. Let's get these
16:15executive orders that have been very effective. We haven't let a single person into this country
16:21legally in seven months. Laura, remember your reporting just last year, it was thousands,
16:27hundreds of thousands of people per month. So we've done it. Let's put these policies that
16:31President Trump put in place in legislation. Are you in favor of ditching the filibuster?
16:37Because you're not going to pass anything if the filibuster still is in effect.
16:41Look, Laura, if that came to vote, I would vote for it. Unfortunately, we have at least four
16:45senators that would never under any circumstances vote for it. So we can't get that done because
16:51there's just four people that just under no conditions will do it. But what we can do is
16:56we can get another reconciliation bill across the finish line. We can continue to highlight
17:00the absurdity of what Biden allowed to have happened and show the results of what these
17:06policies have done. Senator, thank you. As always, we appreciate it. And when we come back,
17:11warning signs perhaps missed and Rob Reiner and his wife's murder. Next.
17:2131 years after OJ Simpson was arrested for the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole and her friend,
17:26Ron Goldman, another gruesome murder in the Brentwood neighborhood of L.A., director Rob Reiner and his
17:31wife. But in this case, the suspect didn't lead them on a wild chase down the 405.
17:37Their 32-year-old son, Nick, was arrested without incident near USC's campus and is now facing a
17:44double murder rap. These charges will be two counts of first degree murder with a special
17:50circumstance of multiple murders. He also faces a special allegation that he personally used a
17:57dangerous and deadly weapon, that being a knife. These charges carry a maximum sentence of life in
18:06prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty. No decision at this point has been
18:12made with respect to the death penalty. By now, you've heard of reports of a heated argument
18:17involving Nick and his parents at Conan O'Brien's holiday party and other erratic behavior when he
18:22tried to interrupt a private conversation that comedian Bill Hader was having. Then hours later,
18:27around 4 a.m., Nick checked into a hotel. The police are being tight-lipped about what actually
18:33happened inside the house of the murders. But what we do know is that Nick struggled with
18:39addiction for years. He's done at least 17 stints in rehab since he was 15, and he discussed his
18:45drug-induced rage in a 2018 podcast. Well, it sounds like drug-induced violent psychotic behavior once
18:52again, which, of course, can be triggered by the use of meth, coke, cannabis, hallucinogenics,
18:58and other substances. Now, according to The New York Times, Reiner was fearful that his son was in
19:03another spiral. He'd been telling people that they were scared for Nick and scared that his mental
19:08state was deteriorating. So these poor people did everything to help this kid. Here to discuss
19:14Dr. Lucas Troutman, medical director for American Addiction Centers. Dr. Troutman, thank you for joining
19:19us. Thank you, Laura. Parents who are struggling with either children who've become users or adult
19:29children who continue to use, they're caught in this, should we let them go and let them live on
19:35the street or be homeless? They did that. But he kept coming back and kept being rehabbed, and it's a
19:43vicious cycle. That's right, Laura. You're describing the nature of addiction. It's the chronically
19:50remitting, relapsing disorder where families are torn. Do they enable on that side? Do they provide
19:58accountability? And it really is a stressful thing that many American families go through.
20:02I think a lot of people think of, well, you do drugs and you just get kind of loopy.
20:07But from Harvard Medical School to the National Institutes of Health, the Mayo Clinic, I mean,
20:14the literature on violence and in violent-induced behavior, psychotic behavior from the types of
20:21drugs he was doing. And I understand he started with marijuana, like a lot of these people do,
20:25progressed on to other drugs. But this is real. Violence.
20:30That's right. That's right. And the landscape for drug use has changed over the past 10 years.
20:35We have a relatively porous border, unbelievably dangerous. Synthetic opioids are pulling across
20:41isodonitazine. The traffickers are always one step ahead. So our American families are seeing
20:48unusual and deadly drugs. Now, you named meth, you named uppers, and these are notorious for creating
20:55a sense of not only euphoria, but rage and psychosis that are linked with violence.
21:03Now, alcohol is so available. Go ahead.
21:07Matt, cannabis-induced violent psychotic behavior, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder has also been
21:13documented, especially in recent years as THC levels have climbed. The president, we understand,
21:20is thinking of rescheduling marijuana. Does that send the wrong message to the country
21:25about this type of cannabis use?
21:31Well, for physicians like myself working in treatment centers, on a daily basis, we are seeing
21:36patients with no psychotic disorder coming in with high levels of THC with psychosis induced by that
21:44substance, THC. And so it's well known in our community that these things happen. I think it's
21:48wise to educate the public, as you're doing, to the dangers of THC.
21:54Now, Nick, again, charged with double murder, said that he would feel this great sense of guilt,
22:00as so many addicts do, when he actually did drugs. Watch this.
22:06Well, I think I'm lucky in the sense that I have parents that care about me. And because of that,
22:12when I would go out and do, you know, things like drugs and stuff like that, I'd feel a tremendous
22:18amount of guilt because I'd think, oh, you know, they're thinking about me right now. They want me
22:23to do good. And most people don't have, not most people, but some people don't have parents that
22:28are, you know, have any interest in them.
22:32It's heartbreaking to watch this, Dr. Trotman. But again, this, we're focusing on this because this
22:38is a celebrity murder, but this is happening every minute of every day across the United States
22:43with drugs that begin what may be with alcohol, but pot, high THC marijuana to meth and all these
22:50other drugs. And some of these people just can't seem to, they can't kick it or they can't feel like
22:55they can kick it. That's right. It's chronic and it could be treated as a chronic disease.
23:02Treatment works, but people have to seek treatment. Now, he seems like a really refractory case. He
23:07sought treatment multiple times, kept relapsing. Most of the time in the treatment center, I see
23:13treatment work and people fly free. The point you're making, though, about THC being a psychotic
23:19inducer is a secret that families across America are living and not many people know. These substances
23:26create psychosis and that's underreported. Well, doctor, not on the angle. I hope President Trump
23:33is watching. I know he wants to do the right thing for the country. He's vehemently anti
23:37drugs and, you know, anti-smoking and all of that. So doctor, thank you very, very much.
23:43And coming up, China's going after Senator Eric Schmidt. Why? We'll tell you when we come back.
23:52Okay, this is hilarious. China thinks that Senator Eric Schmidt is going to be paying them billions
23:58of dollars. Well, he's being sued by the city of Wuhan and the Wuhan Institute of Virology
24:04for just $50 billion because they claim he filed a frivolous lawsuit against them in 2020 and
24:11slandered them. That lawsuit said they hoarded PPE, which they did, and obstructed investigations into
24:17COVID's origins, which they did. In addition to the cold, hard cash, China wants Schmidt and another
24:22former AG, Andrew Bailey, to publicly apologize on multiple American and Chinese media platforms.
24:29Oh, and they also want court fees. Here with me exclusively is a man at the center of this
24:34lawsuit, Senator Eric Schmidt. Senator, did they serve you papers? I mean, were there actually
24:39papers for you to appear somewhere in Wuhan?
24:43We're getting it translated as we speak, but we do know it's $50 billion, and you know me as a
24:49troublemaker, but it's totally ridiculous. They're just mad that we exposed their lies and their
24:55deceit. Uh, whistleblowers went missing. Flights in and out of Wuhan internally weren't canceled,
25:02but they, uh, but, uh, you know, the international flights still came in and out of Wuhan. We exposed
25:07all that, and Missouri got a $24 billion judgment against them, and they don't like that. And it's
25:12also worth noting in my New York Times bestseller book, this is a big part of it, The Last Line of
25:16Defense, um, you can read all about it. It makes a great stocking stuffer, Laura. President Trump
25:21loves it. Okay. Shameless plug alert by Schmidt. I know. Well, I had to. I'm being sued for $50
25:26billion. Here we go. No, that's true. But the truth is, but they, um, but they unleashed COVID
25:32on the world. We sued them and we won, and so this is just sour grapes. Uh, they've sued me for
25:36$50 billion, but, uh, I won't be apologizing, apologizing anytime soon, as you'd imagine.
25:41I mean, Trump called it the Wuhan flu for how many, how many weeks in a row? I mean, they,
25:47they covered up the origins of COVID, patient zero. We never really learned who that was.
25:52I asked Fauci in February of 2020, you know, where's, where are the documents? Well, we get
25:57along well with the researchers and I'm paraphrasing, but he just blew off that question. So
26:01this is, but this is classic China, is it not? They seek to harass and try to intimidate people
26:09from criticizing them. That's what they do. Yeah. I'm from the show me. Yep. I'm from the show me
26:15state. Uh, they're not going to be intimidating me. And also exposed, by the way, the part of the
26:20point of the lawsuit was to expose how they manipulate supply chains. And so this was PPE
26:25in this example, but they could manipulate supply chains on critical minerals, pharmaceuticals.
26:30It's very important that China was held to account. And that's what this lawsuit sought to do.
26:33And it's also, I think, um, telling how they've reacted to this, uh, by going after sitting U.S.
26:39senators and former officials that made the case that they, uh, you know, lied to the world and it
26:44costs Missouri a bunch of money in untold lives and livelihoods along the way.
26:47But let's give China a lot of sophisticated technology and hope for the best. Let's do
26:52that because they're, they're so trustworthy on everything that we've done with them. They
26:56just live up to all their agreements. Senator, um, we have to move on from China though,
27:00to what's happening in our hemisphere, which is the president tonight designating Venezuela as a
27:06foreign terrorist organization. He's ordering a complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers
27:11going in and out of the country. Uh, we're upping the ante here. What is next here? And do you think
27:18this is a good plan? Well, I think what you're seeing now is a pivot away from, uh, other parts
27:25of the world into our own hemisphere. I welcome this. We have a, yeah, right. It's to our own
27:29hemisphere and the rise of China. Speaking of China, and it's time for European allies to step up in a
27:34much more meaningful way. Look for the people objecting this, they have no problem with aircraft
27:38carriers halfway around the world or troops somewhere else, but they somehow object when
27:43we're blowing narco terrorist boats out of the water who are poisoning a hundred thousand
27:47Americans every year. So I'm glad we're putting sort of as a priority now, our own hemisphere,
27:51protecting our own people. This is a realist point of view. And you're seeing a president
27:55actually carry out a very important mission here. Senator, we appreciate you. And we can take
28:01up a collection for you later for that $50 billion. We'll hit the kettle like the Salvation Army
28:06style for you. All right, Senator. Thank you. And coming up, a new Democrat rising star wants to
28:12bring the Mamdani momentum to Michigan next. Is Michigan ready for the next Mamdani? Well,
28:22Abdul El-Sayed thinks so. He's running for Michigan's U.S. Senate seat, the one being,
28:28uh, that where Gary Peters is retiring. But let's not forget during his 2018 run for governor,
28:34El-Sayed, had a lot to say about criminals. If you go to jail, that jail is going to be a place
28:39where you're going to get access to the education that we failed to give you when you were in our
28:43public school system. And that once you get out, people aren't going to ask about your experience
28:47of having been in jail. We're talking about being able to build the kind of Michigan where we are
28:54empowering people like that little boy to be the means of growth in the first place.
28:58On a now-deleted campaign page, El-Sayed also proposed commuting all sentences for juveniles
29:05serving life in prison, all of them. And, uh, he also wants to rage the age of adult prosecution
29:12from 17 to 18. So if you're serving life in prison as an adult or as a minor, it's not because you
29:20swiped a candy bar from the store, everyone should remember, right? It's because you did something
29:24really horrific, like Jason Benjamin Simmons. The Washington Free Beacon reports that Simmons
29:31raped five-year-old Nicole Venotti, beat her to death with a metal rod, and buried her in a garbage
29:37bag back in 1994. He would have been freed by 2019 under El-Sayed's idea. And school shooter Ethan
29:45Crumbly, who killed four students, some execution style back in 2021, would never have gotten his life
29:52sentence at all. Here to weigh in is Jason Chaffetz, Fox News contributor. Jason, we keep asking this
29:59question, how far left can the left go before it leaves America? But this truly is insane,
30:07and it's Michigan. Could this actually happen?
30:10He's a candidate for the United States Senate. The guy, uh, I mean, it's, you'd normally be
30:16denounced. You'd just be laughed out of the party, but today's democratic party. No,
30:20he's considered a mainstream democratic candidate in the state of Michigan on his way to the United
30:26States Senate, if he, if he has his way. So, uh, where are the Democrats on this? You claim you're
30:32tough on crime. You claim you want to, I saw a press conference where they talked about, uh, how they
30:37nabbed all of the people that were there in Southern California and foiled the terrorist plot. And every
30:43single one of them has cited the idea that they were cooperating. Oh really? They weren't cooperating
30:49with ice and they weren't willing to cooperate with others. Where is the democratic party? When
30:54actually you want to prevent something ahead of time, you've got to cooperate. And that means
30:59prosecuting people who want to do horrific things and not letting the criminals out of jail,
31:04a rape, a murder. This guy under his plan would let those people back out onto the streets.
31:10Well, this is where you have the left, um, uh, forming common cause with Muslim Americans who
31:18tend to be more conservative on certain social issues, but they're forming a convenience of
31:24alliance. Are they not Jason? And we see it in, in places like New York where obviously Momdani is
31:31more liberal socially, but nevertheless, Muslim American voters are not liberal on social issues yet.
31:37Could they be convinced to vote for someone like Abdul al-Sayed because of his background and because
31:44of his, um, his, the support he's receiving from other Muslim groups? Yeah, this, this is the scary
31:51part of it. If you actually look and ask any person in Michigan, you know, should a person who's maybe
31:5716, 15 years old and, and a career committed a horrific murder or rape, what should happen to that
32:04person? I think they would come down on the side of, well, they need to pay their price in debt to
32:08society, which means locking them up and never ever allowing them back out onto the streets again.
32:13But these guys are running on it. They're going to Harvard. This guy does those comments were from
32:17Harvard talking about it proudly. And instead of being laughed and denounced off of stage,
32:23he gets more attention. He's going to raise more money for it, but that's today's Democratic Party.
32:28They have lurched so far to the left. It's unrecognizable and it's unsustainable and
32:33America needs to stand up for itself. I don't think Democrats are lost in radicalism. I think
32:38Democrats have become radicals. Yeah. So they're not lost. Democrats are radicals. They have embraced
32:44a deeply anti-American Marxist vision for the country and, uh, and they're defending it. I mean,
32:51when they, when they, when they proudly align themselves with mom, Donnie, they are aligning
32:56themselves with someone who thinks at its core, America is horrible, awful, and racist and has to
33:02atone for its racist sins. That's where the party is. So I don't, I'm going to reject the idea,
33:09oh, they're lost or no, this is what they've chosen. That's what we have to remind the voters of.
33:15Jason, close it out. Yeah. I, I went to Congress thinking we all believed in the same conclusions.
33:21We just had different ways to get there, but I left Congress thinking, no, these people,
33:24they don't love America. They don't want success, freedom, prosperity. Um, they don't, they don't love
33:29the flag. Um, and they have a very evil and it's, to me, it's a fight of good versus evil. And if the
33:36Democrats want to continue to wrap themselves around evil, then I hope the American people are strong
33:41enough. People in Michigan, for instance, stand up and say, no, that's a bridge too far.
33:46And Republicans have to offer a positive forward-looking freedom-based agenda. Can't just
33:53dine out on the big, beautiful bill forever. Uh, heaven forbid. Uh, Jason, thank you very much.
33:58And coming up, a new media report tries to tear apart the Trump administration,
34:02divide and conquer. We'll tell you about it next.
34:05This is no surprise. Democrats and their media enablers are ramping up their efforts to tear
34:13apart the Trump presidency as we head into the midterms. Now, first it was Elon. Oh,
34:18Elon and Trump, they're never going to speak again, irreparable. I even fell into that trap,
34:23but it looks like Elon's back, attending meetings, events at the White House. Axios is reporting he's
34:28already donating money to help Republicans in the midterms. Had dinner recently with J.D. Vance,
34:33I understand as well. But how many times have we heard that Trump is getting rid of someone in
34:38his cabinet? CNN recently reported the White House is preparing for possible cabinet turnover
34:43after the one-year mark of Trump's second term. Will Donald Trump maybe have a shakeup of his
34:47cabinet and fire a few people? Hegseth, Bondi, Cash, Noam. Well, they're all still here, last I checked.
34:55But now they have a new target, Trump's chief of staff. And in a two-part Vanity Fair interview with
35:00Susie Wiles, author Chris Whipple quoted her as saying that President Trump has an alcoholic's
35:05personality and that Vice President J.D. Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade.
35:11Russ Vaught is a right-wing absolute zealot. The article fueled rumors that Wiles could be ready
35:18to leave government. Bill Kristol, who's always wrong and never in doubt, former White House chief of
35:24staff under George H.W. Bush, posted on X, haven't read the article yet, but sounds like a dramatic
35:30exit interview from Susie Wiles. But Wiles is hitting back, calling the article a hit piece.
35:36Significant context was disregarded. Much of what I and others said about the team and the president
35:41was left out of the story, I assume after reading it, that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly
35:46chaotic and negative narrative about the president and our team. Here with us is Byron York,
35:51Fox News contributor. Byron, you responded to Wiles' post on X, writing that, quote,
35:58in terms of its understanding of the press, this is perhaps one of the most naive statements ever
36:03made by an official at the highest levels of the government. Yeah, are you telling me, Byron,
36:09that Vanity Fair is not to be trusted? I mean, they've written a hit piece on me before, but you know,
36:15it's like I was young and didn't know anything back then. Listen, I'm sorry to break the news to you.
36:22We have seen, as you suggested, a lot of attempts to portray the White House as a place that's
36:27deeply divided, filled with conflict. But on the other hand, Vanity Fair was invited
36:34into the White House. The photographer went, the reporter went, the top officials in the White House,
36:41the vice president, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller,
36:48Carolyn Levitt, they all there. They posed for pictures and all talked to Vanity Fair. And Susie
36:53Wiles talked to Vanity Fair 11 times, 11 times over the course of a year. So she can complain
37:00that it's misleading and out of context. But what did she expect going into this?
37:05Well, Vanity Fair is just one of the worst left wing rags out there. So I don't really get that.
37:12Susie's really smart. So I'm not sure. It's it is a bit curious. But today, J.D. Vance bashed the
37:18Vanity Fair and defended Susie. Watch. The interviews that White House Chief of Staff
37:23Susie Wiles gave to Vanity Fair, in which she's quoted as referring to you as a conspiracy theorist of
37:31a decade. Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that
37:35are true. Susie Wiles, we have our disagreements. We agree on much more than we disagree. But I've
37:41never seen her be disloyal to the president of the United States. And that makes her the best
37:45White House Chief of Staff that I think the president could ask for. Well, Byron, I mean,
37:49I've seen, you know, the inner workings of the White House and I've seen a lot behind the scenes.
37:55I would agree with what J.D. Vance said. Susie Wiles is one of the most loyal,
37:59dedicated public servants. Still odd to talk to Vanity Fair though. Marco Rubio knows better
38:08than, right? But maybe it was a command performance. They all had to pose.
38:14Donald Trump Jr. also joined in in defending. As a matter of fact, the defense of Susie Wiles'
38:20campaign today was, I think, the most extensive executive branch wide campaign I've ever seen
38:27relating to something of this. But in terms of this article, I want to read you one short
38:32paragraph from it to give you a sense of the attitude that Vanity Fair took into this.
38:37Donald Trump has refined the way presidents behave, verbally abusing women, minorities,
38:43and almost anyone who offends him. Charlie Kirk's assassination turbocharged Trump's campaign of
38:49revenge and retribution. Critics have compared this moment to a Reichstag fire, a modern version
38:57of Hitler's exploitation of the torching of Berlin's parliament. That's in the article.
39:02So in other words, what in the world did the White House expect out of Vanity Fair?
39:07Well, again, they've written so many hit pieces about conservatives over the years. I mean,
39:12and if you get a positive piece from Vanity Fair, it's usually not saying a lot about you,
39:18I would say, as a conservative. Am I accurate about that, Byron? Right? Yeah, you're absolutely right.
39:26Well, of course, I'm sure there are some Trump bashing Republicans and former Republicans who have
39:31gotten positive treatment from Vanity Fair, but not the Trump White House. Well, we want Susie to come
39:37on the angle. We haven't had her on yet, but I'd be a lot fairer than the Vanity Fair with Susie Wiles,
39:44I think, Byron, right? I mean, come on, come on the angle, and you can blast Vanity Fair. It's much
39:48more fun. Well, just say, if you had time for 11 interviews with Vanity Fair, some of them lasting
39:55a full hour, certainly you can come spend a little time on the Ingram angle. No, it'd be fun. We'll
40:00have fun, too. I actually like her, unlike Vanity Fair. They obviously don't like her. Byron,
40:05thank you very much. Great to see you, as always. That is it for us tonight. Make sure to follow me
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40:15Thank you for watching. Remember, it is America now and forever. Jesse Waters, he takes it all from here.
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