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The Ingraham Angle END SHOW 12/19/25 | BREAKING NEWS TONIGHT SATURDAY DECEMBER 19, 2025  Laura Ingraham cuts through the Washington chatter in this edition of The Ingraham Angle (December 19, 2025).   Tonight’s Coverage Includes: - Major Breaking News: Critical updates on the nation's top stories from this Saturday night. - The Angle: Laura's unfiltered take on the latest political shifts and the "rule of law" debate. - Investigation Update: Latest developments regarding the Brown University and MIT cases. - Seen & Unseen: Raymond Arroyo joins to break down the cultural stories you might have missed.  Stay tuned for the "End Show" segment for a final look at the day's most impactful events.  🔔 Subscribe to stay updated on The Ingraham Angle and the latest from Fox News. 👍 Like and Share to help spread the truth!  #TheIngrahamAngle #LauraIngraham #FoxNews #BreakingNews #SaturdayNight #Politics #RaymondArroyo  #TheIngrahamAngle #LauraIngraham #FoxNews #BreakingNews #IngrahamAngle #TheAngle #PoliticalAnalysis #SaturdayNews #USPolitics2025 #RaymondArroyo

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00:00Good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram. This is the Ingram Angle from Washington tonight.

00:08Thank you for joining us, spending time with us tonight. And last night, we were told that the

00:13Brown and MIT shooter killed himself in a storage unit. Claudio Manuel Neves Valente, 48, was a

00:21Portuguese national and former Brown student 22 years ago. He attended the same institute in

00:27Portugal as MIT professor Nuno Loreiro, who was found dead in his apartment building lobby in

00:33Brookline, Massachusetts. But here's a headline for you. Homeless man smarter than high-paid officials

00:40at Brown University. Now, since last Saturday, it's been nothing but a showcase of incompetence.

00:47At the state, local, and university level are people who check various boxes, but not the one

00:54that's labeled common sense. In the aftermath of the horrific shooting that left two students dead,

01:00we saw them waste time by detaining the wrong person. We heard them admit that they didn't

01:05even know how many people were in the classroom. Then we listened as they dismissed a connection

01:10to the MIT shooting. Then they confused the public about the location of video cameras.

01:17And then they told us they weren't even sure how long the shooter was in the building.

01:21But somehow, last night, they thought that they would put it all and all doubts to rest.

01:29I'm extremely proud of this department. As soon as you have a name, I believe you can find anybody

01:34in this country. And the fact that this team was able to do it in around 24 hours, I think,

01:39is a tribute to them, their hard work around the clock. Colonel Perez's leadership has been steady

01:46and decisive, focused on identifying the person responsible.

01:50The Providence crew went on and on and on. It was interminable.

01:54All we wanted to hear was the name of the shooter, how the case broke open,

01:59any information on motive. We wanted to know who they could rule out and how they could rule out,

02:06I should say, an accomplice. Just what we didn't want five days after these killings,

02:12a self-congratulatory confab where the left-wing mayor acted like he was kind of an MC for the award ceremony.

02:18It was because of the information provided to us by neighbors and the tireless work

02:28of our Providence Police Department, the Rhode Island State Police, the FBI, the ATF, and many

02:35other federal partners. The incredible prosecutorial advice and guidance that we received from the

02:42attorney general's office. We all worked well together to be able to identify this suspect.

02:50Okay. All of these individuals, sorry, should be fired, except the FBI special agent who knew

02:56what he was doing. That was clear. This was a complete and total embarrassment. And the worst of

03:01the worst, the college president who makes $3 million a year, by the way, she got like a 70% salary

03:06increase just a few years ago because, you know, $3 million a year. Yeah, she's worth it.

03:13We have 1200 cameras at Brown. But not in that building.

03:17We have some in that building. It's a large complex. And I think what you would see is the

03:22video evidence in this case, from my perspective, I'm not a law enforcement agent, has been incredibly

03:28helpful. The, the moving of the person around the neighborhood, those video images,

03:34they helped craft this case. Right. That wasn't from the Brown building where he shot up

03:41in all those students. The question remains, in the building, why wasn't there video?

03:50Video played a big role in this case. The neighbor's video, the rental car video, but not the video from

03:58the building that he walked in freely, both before when he got in the confrontation and when he came

04:03back in, decided to kill people. You didn't have cameras in that building. Just say it so we could

04:09get this over here. Well, look at everything that is done, but I do not think a lack of cameras in that

04:13building, it had anything to do with what happened there. And we will go forward.

04:19Wait, she said, well, we'll go forward. Is that what she said? You know who won't

04:24be going forward? Ella Cook. Her parents are burying her next week in Birmingham,

04:30three days before Christmas. And Makhamed Umra Zoukova, who double majored in biochem

04:36and neuroscience, he won't be going forward either. But the verbal back slapping at the press conference

04:42last night finally gave way to the truth. They were just plain lucky that a homeless guy with intuition

04:49was on the scene. He blew this case right open. He blew it open. And that's how these cases sometimes

04:57go. When you do crack it, you crack it. And that person led us to the car, which led us to the name,

05:04which led us to the photographs of that individual renting the car, which matched the clothing of our

05:10shooter here in Providence that matched the satchel that we see here in Providence.

05:17Okay. When exactly did authorities learn that a homeless person lived in the building?

05:23We don't know. And doesn't this raise other questions about security in general,

05:28including in the immediate aftermath of the shooting?

05:32I asked investigators how it could be that a homeless man and not police noticed a suspicious

05:37person in that time. The Providence Police is obviously not going to patrol Barris and Holly.

05:44That's a question for, frankly, for Brown and their police department.

05:46Why would a civilian observe that to be suspicious? It's a great point. And I like the fact that you're

05:52mentioning that I'm bringing that up. That's what we should all be doing, right? And it's just

05:56personality. Some people are more interested in finding out what others are doing. In this particular case,

06:01this person decided that he wanted to, and I'm glad he did. It turns out that he, the homeless man named John,

06:07by the way, was the other individual that officials were looking to talk to a few days ago,

06:13seen in this video, who was following the suspect. Now, his Reddit post about the Nissan with Florida

06:20plates caught my eye a few days ago. And I wondered if authorities had actually followed up with him.

06:25But John ended up himself coming forward to police when he saw his photo all over that videotape,

06:33which was the crucial break they needed after an unimpressive, frankly, first few days.

06:38But tonight, many more questions have to be answered. And they will not, the officials will

06:43not be able to rely on a homeless guy to fill in those blanks. Here with us is James Gagliano,

06:49retired FBI supervisory special agent, along with Tim Miller, former Secret Service agent. James,

06:55let's start with you. Now, we're hearing, this is interesting, that the suspect's social media

07:02footprint is being examined tonight, and they began last night. I would expect that would happen,

07:09but what struck you as most strange as this case came to an apparent close?

07:16Laura, you are spot on. And I was thinking the same thing last night, watching that press conference in

07:23real time. I saw your post on X, and you were 100% right. The self-congratulatory,

07:31the self-aggrandizing back slapping. It was literally the Coney Island clown car last night,

07:38watching the politicians. And I'm a recovering politician as a former mayor. I can say this,

07:44step all over themselves to get attention and to deflect from the investigation. The Providence

07:51Police Department did admirable and commendable work on this, working with the FBI. And Laura,

07:57your point about the FBI Boston special agent in charge, he was on point and amazing. He spoke

08:04succinctly. He gave the facts, and that was it. Laura, the embarrassment here is, yes,

08:10the case was solved. Could it have been solved earlier with video camera footage that could have

08:16prevented the MIT professor from being shot in his home? If only we'd have had one of those 1200 cameras

08:24provided some source information, which didn't happen. Yeah, Tim, to that point, you know,

08:29the affidavit did reveal that, you know, if they kept saying there are 1200 cameras,

08:34there are 1200 cameras, as if that's relevant, because there were only two cameras on the outside

08:38of the building, even though there were multiple entrances. And they still, to this moment, have no

08:45idea how long this guy was in the building. Yeah, you're exactly right, Laura. And it wasn't too long

08:52ago we were talking about Butler and trying to figure out what went wrong. Well, the answer for

08:57this one is everything went wrong. Remember, security is proactive. It's designed to stop

09:02something before it happens. This was a colossal failure. And oh, by the way, the 1200 cameras

09:09are related to the 146 acres and 246 different structures, which translates to five cameras per

09:20structure. That's insane. When we consult all over the country, the first thing we look at

09:26is technical surveillance. But now they're smart cameras that can see stuff and report it to you.

09:32You don't even have to sit there and watch the screen. So at every level, this was a colossal

09:37failure. And to your point, there are two people that don't get to move forward. And it kind of

09:42reminds me of the slope roof hearing after the Butler situation. Well, and that MIT professor, again,

09:52James, look, on the online, a lot of conspiracy theorists out there, a lot of people say,

09:56well, how do we know he killed himself? Well, how do we know this is not a state actor who was

10:01influencing him, whether it was, you know, from the Middle East? There's all sorts of speculation.

10:06I'm not going to get into that because I don't have the knowledge. But given how this was screwed up,

10:11you can't understand why people don't trust what they hear, which is why you can't have so many

10:17screw ups in the first place, James. Yeah, the public's trust and confidence

10:23has been shattered across the last decade when it comes to law enforcement. And that's painful.

10:28But I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think Benjamin Franklin said it best.

10:33Three people can keep a secret when two of them are dead. Laura, the issue here is,

10:38do we learn our lessons? When Newtown happened, the massacre at that school in Connecticut in 2012,

10:44we should have learned our lesson about police going to the sound of the guns,

10:48then what happened in Parkland six years later didn't happen. Uvalde, Texas, we didn't use single

10:54point entry. And now in this, if we don't learn a lesson from the idiocy and the lunacy of not

11:01activating those cameras on Brown University, a place with a $9 billion endowment, we are,

11:08it's unconscionable, Laura. We have to learn our lessons and move forward from this.

11:12James and Tim, both of you, thank you so much. All right, so who was Claudio Neves Valente and why

11:19was he in the United States? So officials say he first entered the U.S. on a student visa from

11:25Portugal. He dropped then out of, so he got into Brown, he dropped out of Brown in 2003, entered in

11:322000. He was doing graduate work, ultimately wanted his PhD. Then in 2017, he returned to the U.S.

11:40through something called the diversity lottery program. Well, the day after the Ingram Angle

11:46launched, that was eight years ago, I hammered that very program.

11:51It's a kind of immigrant Powerball. It allows 50,000 or so winners a fast pass to citizenship and

11:58access to all our government freebies. They should shut down this diversity visa farce now before

12:04another American or tourist tour country dies. Well, that was right after the diversity visa

12:11recipient had carried out a terror attack in New York, killing eight people. President Trump did try

12:18to end the program, but Congress blocked him. But now he suspended it indefinitely. Here with me now

12:23is Oklahoma Senator Mark Dwayne Mullen. Senator, I know we saw this stupidity with visas pre-9-11.

12:30What happened then with student visas, people coming in here learning to fly planes.

12:35Now we have three dead at the hands of another previous diversity visa recipient.

12:42Yeah, what the program that he was currently in the U.S. with was basically DEI lottery system

12:49for immigration. And it should be ended. I mean, a visa to be inside the United States is a privilege,

12:56not a right. And the fact that you're just handing it out on the luck of a draw

13:00with no good reason, no, I mean, there is security checks, but not a deep dive in why you're here,

13:06but just because we're trying to diversify our immigration system is lunatic. And President Trump

13:11was right when he tried to do it in his first term. And unfortunately, it takes something like this

13:17to get Congress's attention and to get the world's attention of how ridiculous this is. This isn't

13:23about racism. This is about securing the nation. This is about making sure the people inside the

13:28United States are secure first and foremost. And then those that are coming in the country

13:33are coming because they want to live the American dream, not to take advantage of it and harm people.

13:38And that's what has happened twice with this system. And President Trump is right. Or this should

13:42be ended and ended immediately. And he did right by signing the EO, the executive order by doing so.

13:49Well, wokeism actually can kill, right, in different ways. If you have people who are not

13:54qualified to be in certain jobs where the lives are on the line, people can be dead. And here,

14:01we have three individuals dead. There's a whole series of things that happened leading to this.

14:05But one thing that we know at this point, quote, diversity is not our strength,

14:11freedom and security. Without that, forget it. I mean, all this other stuff is insane.

14:17But I want to show you how they're trying to spin this, Senator, on CNN. Watch this.

14:22No one I know left that press conference saying this is an immigration issue. But as we know,

14:28that the Trump administration will use many of these instances as a way to sort of promote their

14:33their sort of, you know, anti-immigrant stance. And I just, I think it's just premature at this stage.

14:39Well, it's premature, Senator.

14:41No, it's, you know, it's ridiculous CNN has to make everything about race

14:47because they can't have a logic conversation about this. What President Trump has made very clear,

14:51he's, it's America first agenda. We want the breast, the best and the brightest that want to

14:56live the American dream for the right reasons. And we, we are, we're a country that are, that's,

15:00that's the most generous country in the world when it comes to that. But at the same time,

15:05when we have a system that has been proven not once, but now twice to, to, to, to, to be

15:11literally a, um, a path forward to kill innocent individuals, enough's enough. And if CNN can admit

15:18to that, once again, what are, what is it that they're, what is it they're for? Are they, are they

15:23really about securing the American people inside the United States? Or is it more about diversification

15:29or their hatred towards anything President Trump does? Because it doesn't make any sense why you

15:33wouldn't want to keep American citizens safe, first and foremost. Well, I think, uh, sadly,

15:38dead Americans, whether it's the border or this, are just necessary collateral damage to the path,

15:43uh, of the diverse utopia that they want to create, Senator. I understand you're in Norman,

15:48Oklahoma for the big game. I am. And you're not here. I know. I wish I was there. We're on

15:54opposite sides here. I'm a Bama fan. And I forgot my pin. That is bad luck. I cannot believe I forgot it.

15:58But, um, I hope everybody's safe tonight and have a great time at the game. Senator Mullin. Thank you.

16:05We'll be missing you. All right. Senator, thanks so much. And coming up,

16:08Trump hits the road. Affordability is the focus and a lot of new news today on the economy.

16:13Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, next.

16:22All right. No one, and I mean, no one can honestly say that President Trump is not taking

16:26affordability seriously. Today, he announced a new plan that will lower prescription drug prices.

16:31Nine CEOs from the biggest pharma companies stood with him at the White House pledging to take action.

16:37We'll be watching. And the president made another announcement as well.

16:42I'm going to call a meeting of the insurance companies. I'm going to see if they get their

16:45price down to put it very bluntly. Okay. We'll see what happens there. But look,

16:50he's trying everything. It's like, come on, guys, you're making tons of money. Give America a break.

16:55And Trump rallies are back tonight in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina.

16:59He'll tout the wave of good economic news that, uh, you can tell has been frustrating his critics all week.

17:06Finally, some good news on the number one economic issue, the cost of living.

17:11Inflation is, uh, you know, we'll see, uh, one hopes that there is a sustained reduction in inflation

17:18and that this isn't just a blip. Oh, maybe coming in a little bit better than expected. 2.7%.

17:24It was a better number than anyone was expecting. Positive news. There's no other way to spin it.

17:30Oh, he's disappointed. Positive news. And you know, they're just as annoyed that all because of

17:36Trump's energy policies, there's a lot less pain at the pump. It's an instant tax cut.

17:42It's not as painful at the pump. It's always nice to have cheaper prices.

17:46With the prices, what they are right now, I could probably save roughly about 60 bucks a week.

17:53That's an extra $60. I got nine children, so $60 go a long way. God bless them. Here with me

17:59exclusively Treasury Secretary Scott Besson. Mr. Secretary, there's great news on inflation,

18:04that big announcement about drug prices at the White House from the president. So I'm watching

18:08this and things are moving in the right direction, but why are Americans still so pessimistic?

18:14Laura, it's because of the affordability crisis under the Biden administration. There are two

18:19parts here. There is price level and then there's the inflation rate. And the price level just got

18:25out of control during the disastrous four years of Biden. So stated consumer price index was up about

18:3321, 22 percent. Wall Street firm called Strategas has something they call the common man index,

18:39which is what do working class families buy? Groceries, rent, insurance, cars, used cars.

18:47That was up about 35 percent. So that big price level. Then there's the rate of change. And as we saw

18:53this week, President Trump, the whole administration have been working hard to bring down the inflation

18:59level on a trailing three month basis. Inflation is now 2.2 percent, 2.2 percent, which is moving

19:06towards the Fed's 2 percent target. So the journal reported on all the deluge of economic news that

19:12came out. A lot of it was delayed, as you said, the last time you were on the show because of the

19:15shutdown. So inflation down. But unemployment ticked up a bit to like a four year high in November.

19:23Earnings growth slowed, still going up, but slowed a little bit. So the argument they're making is

19:29that like unemployment numbers are there. They're not due to inflation here. So what's happening?

19:36Like, what's the what's what's the reason job losses seem to be going? Well, I think a big part

19:42of it is that the government, the rifts that were done kicked in in October. So reductions in workforce.

19:49Yes. The reductions in workforce. Sorry. Yeah. Acronyms from the government. You really are a government

19:54weenie at this point. I'm starting to do swamp speak. So but the government reduction

20:00kicked in. And I can tell you over the short, medium and long term, the the economy will be much

20:07better off with more private sector jobs, more government. I mean, fewer government jobs. And I expect

20:13that next year we're going to see the private sector come out the other side. We've had a 15 percent

20:18upturn in capital expenditure this year. And the history of capital expenditures is big job growth

20:25always follows. So A.I. boom. Is that definitely going to lead to more American jobs, not the H-1Bs,

20:32not the foreign workers, but American workers? Well, in general, we've seen the growth in jobs this

20:39year have gone to native born Americans, but not not not illegals, not others. So 100 percent of the job

20:46growth has gone to Americans. I have to ask you about this. Haters on the left did this to Donald

20:51Trump a few months ago in Washington. They disrupted him a restaurant. I was enraged about it. It's

20:56happened many times before. Happened to you this week. Watch. We have a special guest here and we want

21:05to make a toast to the secretary of treasury Scott Besson. So let's give it up for the man who is

21:12eating in peace as people starve across the world based on his sanctions, which are economic warfare.

21:23Okay. Is that is that going to in any way intimidate you from living your life? Because this is the kind

21:28of stuff they pull. I think it's that code pink. One of those. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm not going

21:33to be coward. And you heard the booze on there. They were booing that deranged woman who's clearly

21:40her dad didn't pat her on the head enough when she was younger. So now the rest of us have to live

21:45with this. She she stood up. They interrupted everyone's dinner. I wasn't that sad to be interrupted

21:51because the food went very good at the restaurant. And it was also clear that the restaurant owner was in on

21:56it with her. But it was a setup. So don't worry. Restaurants called revelers hour and we'll be

22:04having MAGA night there sometime in the next month. So they hope everybody will show up for that. All

22:10right. Mr. Secretary have a merry, merry Christmas. This has been an unbelievable year for you in this

22:15administration. We really, really appreciate your work. And thank you so much. Or I think 2026 is

22:20going to be a great year for growth, inflation and the American people, the president works for every

22:25day. He said it today. The best is yet to come. Thank you very much. And coming up, Minnesota's

22:30massive fraud scandal, worse than you ever thought. Next.

22:36It was one billion. Now it's nine billion. That's how deep and sick the Minnesota fraud scheme may

22:42be. More than 90 individuals, many in the Somali community have been arrested so far, including six

22:48charged just yesterday. And according to the feds, the number of government programs bilked

22:53has grown to 14. The magnitude cannot be overstated. What we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad

23:01actors committing crimes. It's a staggering industrial scale fraud. It's swamping Minnesota and calling into

23:09question everything we know about our state. Now, this stolen money was supposed to be going to food for

23:16kids, therapy for autistic children and housing for disabled adults, among other things. Instead,

23:23it went to, well, a honeymoon in the Maldives at a private waterfront villa.

23:37A 2021 Porsche Macan and a lakefront property in Minnesota. Here to weigh in, Joe Thompson,

23:43first assistant U.S. attorney in Minnesota. Joe, this is just staggering for those of us who love

23:50the state of Minnesota, have deep connections there, as I do. This fraud seems to be getting

23:55worse and worse. But these numbers, they get so big that regular Americans watching this like,

24:00well, is it really that important? Why does this matter?

24:06Thank you, Laura. Appreciate you having me here. It matters because it's calling into question our very

24:12way of life here in Minnesota. A state that's long been known for its clean government, good schools,

24:17nice parks, and civic mindedness. And suddenly, all too often now, we're known for fraud.

24:24Well, it seems that we used to have a situation where people came to the country

24:29and to become Americans and to live the American dream, meaning learn about the country, understand the

24:35country, really assimilate into the country. But now, and it's not everybody, but there's a significant

24:40number of individuals who learn early on how to game the system or steal from the system. But it's

24:47almost a way of life for these individuals. That's been spoken about on many occasions in the last few

24:55months. But how pervasive is this idea that you can do this and get away with it?

25:01Well, in Minnesota, it's become quite pervasive. In fact, we announced yesterday charges

25:06in a case of fraud tourism. Two individuals, two men from Philadelphia with no connection to Minnesota,

25:14who came here after hearing that one of these Medicaid programs was easy money.

25:18They came here for the sole purpose of committing fraud. And they enrolled a company in one of these

25:23Medicaid programs. They signed up patients, Medicaid beneficiaries. Then they returned to

25:29Philadelphia and began submitting fraudulent claims. So in that situation, our state was just a magnet for

25:36tourism. That's what we were known for. Now, Joe, all this fraud was under Tim Walz's watch,

25:42the governor there. And this morning, he said that you left out a few key details when it came to

25:49his authority to stop these payments back in June. Watch.

25:52We're partners in this. They didn't tell you because they don't tell us. And it's been very

25:58clear that this is being driven from D.C. And I acknowledge it. Again, you're going to hear this

26:03from me. You didn't hear it the other night in a presidential address. This is on my watch.

26:07I am accountable for this. And more importantly, I am the one that will fix it. They're not interested

26:12in that. So they throw about these numbers. Joe, he seems to indicate at least implicitly there

26:18that a lot of this is political and that he's being unfairly tarnished when he's really working

26:23with you to fix it. Well, four years ago today, in December of 2021, I was working with FBI agents

26:31around the clock to prepare the search warrants that were executed to put the end to the Feeding

26:37Our Future fraud scheme that started all this, the scheme to steal hundreds of millions of dollars

26:41from the federal child nutrition program. I'm not a politician. I'm a prosecutor. My goal is not

26:48to take out politicians. It's to end the fraud. And that's the same with everyone on my team.

26:52What was the big break that initially began to unravel all of this? I know this has been going

26:58on for years. And we know this is a problem across America. I'm not trying to uniquely focus

27:03on Minnesota, but obviously the numbers here are staggering. But what was that one break that you

27:09guys got in this case? Well, I think when we started looking at the federal child nutrition

27:17program after receiving a tip. And when we looked at the bank records of the individual companies

27:23involved, we saw just staggering amounts of money that were flowing in from the federal child nutrition

27:28program. It was being spent on cars and real estate both here in Minnesota, elsewhere in the United States,

27:35and even abroad. And then we saw that many of these individuals that were involved in that fraud scheme

27:41also received money from various health care companies, such as autism clinics, often millions

27:46of dollars. And that's what really blew up in this case to expand beyond the COVID fraud, the COVID era scheme

27:54to steal federal child nutrition program funds to this wider investigation into state Medicaid programs

28:00here in the state of Minnesota. Thank you very much for all your hard work and all your investigators'

28:05hard work as well. And coming up, new details about Nick Reiner's dangerous and alarming behavior

28:10before the murders. Dr. Drew is here next.

28:21Nick Reiner was battling two demons, mental illness and addiction. According to TMZ, Nick was diagnosed

28:26with schizophrenia weeks before his parents were murdered. Doctors changed his meds and that,

28:32combined with his drug use, made him act erratically and out of his head. He was dealing with a dangerous

28:38duo and his parents tried everything to help. But as anyone who has dealt with an addict knows,

28:44they lie and they manipulate those who love the most.

28:47You need help. You need help. Come on Tiffany. I'm trying to save you. You want me to lie?

28:55You want me to lie? You want me to lie? You're explaining our family problems. Does that make you

29:02feel good? Look at my brother over there. It's all because of you. I was clean. You're telling me I wasn't clean now?

29:07No. They're trying to make me react for TV. That's stupid.

29:14And just as the family members in that clip, Rob Reiner and his family tried for years

29:20to get their son Nick sober, only to see him repeatedly relapse. At the age of 15, he did his

29:27first of 18 stints in rehab, but eventually he refused more treatment and his parents kicked him out.

29:32In 2016, he told People magazine that I was homeless in Maine. I was homeless in New Jersey.

29:38I was homeless in Texas. I spent nights on the street. I spent weeks on the street. It was not fun.

29:44And according to friends, Rob Reiner and his wife tried everything from tough love to just taking him

29:50back in. How bad did it get at home between the two of you? The truth of the matter is you have to be

29:56who you are. And I made mistakes and that I didn't go with my gut instinct and the feel. And I know Nick better than,

30:04you know, some expert who's never met him. And I think had I listened to my own instincts,

30:10I would have done a lot better by Nick. Well, addiction does this, doesn't it? It creates

30:16many types of victims, including victims of manipulation by the addict and then self-blame.

30:22Here with thoughts, Dr. Drew Penske, host of Ask Dr. Drew and chief patient officer at the

30:26Wellness Company. Dr. Drew, it's wonderful to see you. Now, listening to that interview

30:32is very painful. I want to first talk about the schizophrenia that we've learned about,

30:40because you've talked about this before, that marijuana use at a young age can also trigger

30:46schizophrenia if used early and often, and sometimes later in life. Thoughts here tonight.

30:54And so can hallucinogens. And he was well known to have been doing all of that at one time.

30:59It really may not technically even be schizophrenia. It may be just some sort of chronic illness,

31:04psychotic illness from all the brain injury of the drug. So to call it schizophrenia to suddenly

31:10arrive at that diagnosis later, it's suspect. That usually comes on age 18 to 22. But it does bring

31:17up the issue of co-occurring disorders and addiction. It just makes things that much more

31:22difficult. And psychotic illness these days is routine, both from the cannabis and from the

31:28methamphetamine.

31:29Dr. Drew, violent psychosis, schizophrenic disorder, bipolar disorder. I mean, that Harvard study on all of

31:36the devastating stuff. What do parents do in those situations? We saw that A&E clip

31:42and that intervention show. It's again, devastating stuff. But what do they do? Because Rob Reiner was

31:48blaming himself, which is also heartbreaking to watch. That's right. That's right. Look,

31:54there are untreatable situations, let's be fair. But there are also things you can do. I want everyone

31:59to think about the disease of addiction. A perfect model for it is the plant in the little shop of horrors.

32:06Do you remember that, the Audrey tube? If you go near the plant, it eats you. It brings you in. It

32:11makes you part of the plant. And that is the nature of addiction. You cannot do it alone. You, as a

32:18loved one, must have, ideally, an Al-Anon group, a sponsor in Al-Anon, and a therapist, whom you speak

32:25to before and after essentially every interaction with the addict. Because every instinct you have,

32:32every wonderful instinct you have will be used by the disease to maintain the using. So we have to be

32:38super aware of that. The other thing I want people to be aware of is, you know, Nick got going in his

32:43teens. If you find paraphernalia or substances on a child in their room, in their backpack during

32:51adolescence, you have a major problem on your hands. If they've gotten so sloppy that you, the parent,

32:56are actually finding this stuff, that is not a parenting problem. That is a mental health crisis

33:01and it needs a referral. And Dr. Drew, my father was an alcoholic and until he decided he wanted to be,

33:08you know, treated, that it was, it's a disaster. They have to decide they want to get there.

33:13I know your daughter is a recovering cannabis addict as well. You've dealt with this. I've

33:18dealt with this in a different way. You know, your words to parents across this country tonight,

33:24many of them, you know, feel like they, they, they don't know which way to turn.

33:29But I want you to think about it this way. Here I am an expert in addiction. I have not just my

33:35daughter, I have several family members with addiction around me. And I thought I knew how to

33:40handle things even as these things emerge. And I was becoming aware that there's something going on.

33:44But the reality is I had to go to Al-Anon. I had to get a sponsor. I have to be a human,

33:50a parent with somebody in my life, someone I love with this thing. And there are programs and support

33:55groups and ways that this gets managed that even with infinite fund of knowledge about the disease

34:00itself, you have to do these practices in order to not be a part of the problem.

34:05And not to be not part of the problem yourself and just continue to, I mean,

34:10the word enable is, you know, it's overused maybe, but we can all fall into that trap. Dr. Drew,

34:16so powerful tonight. And we hope someone can be helped by watching this segment or many people.

34:22Dr. Drew, thank you. Appreciate it.

34:23And coming up, The Hunger Games, presidential style? Friday Follies, Raymond Arroyo. That's next.

34:32Time for Friday Follies. And for that, we turn to Fox News contributor Raymond Arroyo.

34:38All right, Raymond, getting close to Christmas. And I've heard, I've heard that Jimmy Kimmel shed a few

34:45Christmas tears. Really? Last time? Yeah. Well, it was his final monologue of 2025, Laura. I guess he

34:52was thinking this final monologue almost happened back in September.

34:57It's been a hard year. We've had some lows. We've had some highs for me. I'm crying already. I'm sorry.

35:04This is not an easy job to do. And sometimes it feels like we're spinning our wheels. You see so many

35:09awful and destructive acts, all this damage we inflict on ourselves on purpose.

35:16You'd swear he's patrolling the Korean Peninsula. But awful and destructive acts,

35:22Laura, like these? Over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize

35:29this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can

35:35to score political points from it. Laura, this is, I mean, you know, it's hard to shed tears for

35:43Jimmy Kimmel. Look, he's been saved from sudden death. They've given him another year. He's now

35:47staying on until 2027. Colbert's gone in May. But this is therapy for ideologues.

35:53Yeah, come on. I mean, this is just, I mean, he's the luckiest guy ever. He gets another year.

36:00And does he make a lot of money for them, Raymond? Or am I misremembering that he's losing a lot of money?

36:06Yeah, as the audience plummets, he's still making a ton of money. Don't you worry. That's what

36:10good lawyers and agents will get you. But Trump announced a sporting event, Laura, that I have to

36:15tell you about. It's called the Patriot Games. And it's a way to celebrate the 250th anniversary of

36:21Americans independence next year. But people can't help but see the similarities between

36:27the Patriot Games and the Hunger Games. In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games,

36:35an unprecedented four day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes,

36:40one young man and one young woman from each state and territory. But I promise there will be

36:46no men playing in women's sports. That will be that will be a great relief to Katniss Everdeen,

36:54Laura. And, you know, I'm sure it's great that President Trump has decided to institute this.

37:01But look, if they want to have a game, maybe whoever the student athlete is,

37:05whoever the victor of that is, they can face the UFC champion in a cage match. And maybe that can be the

37:11final arena event. I'm not following how this works. So long as we're speaking about presidential

37:17announcements, Barack Obama is out there touring his presidential library. Beautiful. Look at that.

37:24Yeah, watching this, well, it made me think about hope and change, Laura. I'm hoping for an

37:29architectural change. I am here at the Obama presidential center. It is starting to happen.

37:36The landscaping is starting to come in. The athletic center is basically done. If you ask me what my

37:41favorite spots are, I have to say that the sky room at the top of the tower, visitors from all around

37:48the world are going to be able to use this space in an active way. It looks great, guys.

37:55Cock-eyed construction hat. Laura, I mean, 800 million dollars. The basketball court is already

38:04open. I mean, how many presidential libraries have that? And the thing that I'm most excited about

38:08is there's a huge hospital waiting room. It's a five-day event. You sit and wait for your Obamacare,

38:14and then you get referred to another presidential library. That'll be a lot of fun. And did you read

38:18where Biden, according to The New York Times, Biden's presidential library foundation raised

38:24no money in 2024. The fund contains $4 million in leftover funds from his inauguration. They need

38:32$200 million to build the Biden library. I think $4 million could do it, Laura. I mean,

38:38how much can an all-migrant-run ice cream stand cost? I mean, it'll be quick. They could do that with $4

38:44million. Maybe they can just get the auto pen to write checks for the library. All right, Raymond,

38:49thank you very much. And that's it for us tonight. I have all my kids at home, so I'm very happy,

38:54usually. No, very happy. We're going to have a lot of fun this weekend. I hope you're going to

38:58enjoy this season and the importance of the season, what it really means. Watch me on Instagram.

39:03Follow me on X. It's America now and forever. Go Bama. Go A&M. Jessie Waters takes her from here.

The Ingraham Angle END SHOW 12/19/25 | BREAKING NEWS TONIGHT SATURDAY DECEMBER 19, 2025

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