The Graham Norton Show - Season 33 Episode 03- Julia Roberts, Colin Farrell, Gloria Estefan, Benedict Cumberbatch, Robbie Williams
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00:00.
00:15Hello.
00:17Hey.
00:20Hello, everybody.
00:21Hello up there.
00:22Yes, hello to you.
00:23Hello over there.
00:24Very good.
00:25Good evening, everyone.
00:28You are so welcome.
00:29Welcome to the show.
00:30I tell you, we have got some big stars for you tonight.
00:33I'm actually a bit nervous.
00:35I'm sweating like Alan Carr on Celebrity Traitors.
00:37And that's sweating.
00:39But hey, look who's singing for us later.
00:42It's the fabulous Robbie Williams.
00:44Yeah.
00:47He has been performing his new single, Pretty Face.
00:50And plenty of pretty faces on my sofa tonight.
00:53First up, this music icon has sold over 100 million records
00:57since her hit song, Conga, made her a global star.
01:00And she's kept the world on their feet ever since.
01:03Now celebrating 50 years in music with a new album,
01:06Rises, it's the queen of Latin pop, Gloria Esteban.
01:10There she is.
01:11Oh.
01:12So lovely to see you.
01:13Hello.
01:14Hello.
01:15Hey, hey, hey.
01:16There you go.
01:17Hello.
01:18There you go.
01:19Hello.
01:20This double Oscar nominee master crime solving in Sherlock,
01:30a code breaking in the invitation game,
01:32and the madness of the multiverse in Doctor Strange.
01:35Now he brings us a moving portrayal of grief in the thing with feathers.
01:39It's Benedict Cumberbatch.
01:40It's Benedict Cumberbatch.
01:41Yay.
01:42Oh, hi.
01:43Nice to be here.
01:44Well, welcome.
01:45Welcome.
01:46Welcome.
01:48This Irish man was Oscar nominated for his heart-breaking role in the Banshee's
01:55of Inish Aaron, and earlier this year won a Golden Globe for his starting performance
02:00in The Penguin.
02:01Now in Ballad of a Small Pair, he plays a gambling addict in The Bright Lights of Macau,
02:07it's Colin Farrell.
02:09Yeah.
02:10I'm not lying.
02:11Colin Farrell.
02:12Hello.
02:13Hello.
02:14Hi.
02:15There you go.
02:16Come on, man.
02:17And she's lit up the big screen in Countess hits like Pretty Woman, My Best Friend's Wedding,
02:27Notting Hill, Ocean's Eleven, and her Oscar-winning performance as Erin Brockovich.
02:31Now, she's wowing critics with her latest role in controversial campus drama, After The
02:36Hunt.
02:37It is a warm welcome back to Julia Roberts!
02:40Hello.
02:41So great to see you.
02:44And Julia Roberts, everybody.
02:45There you go.
02:46Have a seat.
02:47Have a seat, everybody.
02:48Oh.
02:49It's a welcome back to everyone.
02:59Julia, second time on the show.
03:00Hello.
03:01Second time.
03:02Second time.
03:03Who do you know on the couch this time?
03:04Anybody?
03:05I know Colin, and I know Benedict, and I know you, and I am in awe of Miss Estefan.
03:11Oh, good lord.
03:12I'm in awe of all of you.
03:13Yeah.
03:14And actually, you worked with Benedict.
03:19We did, yeah.
03:20Yes.
03:21August Osage County.
03:22Yes, you did.
03:23And were you at Wimbledon together as well?
03:24Well...
03:25Julia was sat next to me.
03:27Okay.
03:28Which I thought, oh great, I'm between my husband and Benedict, this is going to be great.
03:33But we were in a very special seating.
03:36In the royal box.
03:37We were in the royal box.
03:38Amazing.
03:39Which I was very excited about until I realized, well, until Benedict pointed out to me that
03:48I gasp every time the ball is struck.
03:52It was like a scene out of Pretty Woman.
03:55It was amazing.
03:56She was like...
03:57It's impossible to be quiet in a scenario.
04:02It's so exciting.
04:03It's so exciting.
04:04It's so exciting.
04:05Benedict had his tie and he was like...
04:07And he said, Julia.
04:08And it's like...
04:09They hit the ball.
04:10They hit the ball.
04:12He's like, Julia, really?
04:13It's going to happen all day.
04:14It's going to happen a lot today.
04:15It's going to happen a lot today.
04:18If they're lucky.
04:19One big scream and get it out of your system.
04:22And Gloria Estevan, back, back, back again.
04:25So happy to be here.
04:26That was so much fun.
04:28We've got a new album, Rasis, which we'll talk about later in the show.
04:33But this is unbelievable.
04:34You have been in show business for 50 years.
04:38Yes.
04:39I joined the band in 1975.
04:42It was Miami Latin Boys.
04:43And then when I stuck around, we changed the name to Miami Sound Machine.
04:47I can't believe it.
04:48I'm shocked.
04:49But you know what I can't believe is, I can't believe it is 40 years since we all first heard this.
04:55It's so good.
04:56And I'm glad you knew that, Colin, because Latin beats are important to you.
05:13Yeah.
05:14No, because Miami Vice.
05:16There's a queue.
05:17There's a queue.
05:18Yeah, Miami Vice.
05:19There's a bit of salsa in Miami Vice.
05:20We're talking chips.
05:21Yeah, we saw you doing a bit of moving in Miami Vice.
05:24Here you are now.
05:25Oh, Gloria.
05:26All right.
05:27I want to see the hips.
05:30They never cut to your feet.
05:32Wow.
05:35But no, you're really doing it.
05:37You're really doing it.
05:39I cannot remember that scene.
05:41I think it was...
05:43I woke up 48 hours later in rehab.
05:46Yes.
05:47Fact.
05:48You took Miami Vice too seriously.
05:53Yeah, the mojitos are good.
05:5648 hours later.
05:57Yes.
05:58Yes.
05:59They were consequential.
06:00Yes, cut to.
06:01Yeah.
06:02That must have been very strange when you went to the premiere of Miami Vice and you must
06:07have been big swathes of it you didn't recall.
06:09Two-thirds of the film, man.
06:10Wow.
06:11I was like, don't tell me what's going to happen next.
06:14Yeah.
06:15But like Julia, tennis.
06:16I was the only actor who did the film.
06:17Yeah, exactly.
06:18I had no spoiler alerts.
06:20I...
06:21Hey, listen.
06:22Tonight we've got three very different movies to talk about.
06:24The first is a fabulous and timely drama starring Julia Roberts.
06:28It's called After the Hunt.
06:30It opens on the 17th of October.
06:31That's next Friday.
06:32And it is the latest from Luca Guadagnino.
06:36Guadagnino.
06:37Guadagnino.
06:38I've been practicing all week and still fucked it up.
06:41Guadagnino.
06:42He made Call Me By Your Name and Challengers, lots for the films.
06:46And I was telling you backstage, I love this film.
06:48It's such a big moral mess.
06:50So, tell us what you can about it, who you are and what is going on around you.
06:55I play a philosophy professor at Yale.
07:00And my colleague and sort of best friend is another philosophy professor played by Andrew Garfield.
07:09And my prize student is played magnificently by Iowa Debrey.
07:16And near the beginning of the movie, there she is, I throw a party that this picture is from.
07:23My husband and I, Michael Stuhlbarg, plays my husband, a Freudian analysis guy.
07:29Yeah.
07:30And we have this party.
07:32And the next day she comes to tell me that they walked home together and something inappropriate happened.
07:39So, it's who's telling the truth.
07:42There's lots of fallout from that.
07:44Yeah.
07:45Among other things.
07:46And we were saying, it's one of those things where you think it's just going to be about the sexual politics of that.
07:50But it's about all sorts of, it's about young, old, gay, straight, men, women, it's all in there.
07:55Pills, whiskey, lots of things.
07:57There was a lot of whiskey.
07:58Yeah.
07:59I wish I drank whiskey watching that film.
08:00Yeah.
08:01It's lovely.
08:02You still can.
08:03I feel I've left it too late.
08:05Hey, I tell you what, we've got a clip.
08:07And this is you confronting student Maggie, played by Iowa Debrey.
08:12Here we go.
08:13I don't feel comfortable having this conversation with you anymore.
08:17Not everything is supposed to make you comfortable, Maggie.
08:20Not everything is supposed to be a lukewarm bath for you to sink into until you fall asleep and drown.
08:28And there are no rewards in death for suffering as much as fucking possible in life.
08:34You've constructed a life that hides your accidental privilege, neediness, desperate desire to impress.
08:43At least I have the self-respect to be obvious about what it is that I want.
08:48But you, it's all lies.
08:50Ooh.
08:51And when you have been at screenings of this movie, I mean, it must be that afterwards.
08:59Like, everyone must have an opinion.
09:02There's lots to talk about after this.
09:04Yeah.
09:05That's the best bit, is people seem to have really robust conversations for days after this.
09:12And that's the best part, because I feel like, to me, that's my favourite part of going to the movies, besides the candy, is the talking after.
09:21And the cast, you mentioned all the cast there.
09:24Had you worked with any of them before?
09:26None of them.
09:27And our other castmate, there's many of us, Chloe, Chloe Sevigny.
09:31Yes.
09:32And none of us had worked together before.
09:35And there was some kind of alchemy that happened, where we really...
09:40We have fallen into a life together now.
09:45I don't think...
09:46I mean, we finished this movie over a year ago, and I don't think a week has gone by that I haven't...
09:50spoken to or texted one or more of them.
09:54Wow.
09:55Lovely.
09:56Yeah.
09:57Everyone who does interviews about this all reference your banana bread.
10:00Oh, yeah.
10:01Like, do you cook anything else?
10:03No, I know.
10:04It seems like that's all I cook, and it makes me sound like such a not-cool person.
10:10No, it doesn't really.
10:11No, it doesn't really.
10:12No, it's horrible.
10:13Super cool.
10:14And I do...
10:15I can make anything.
10:16I can make so many more things than bananas.
10:18Just ask me anything.
10:19I can just make it.
10:20Make one thing and do it super well.
10:23Banana bread.
10:24Yeah.
10:25I can...
10:26And I'm not just a baker.
10:28Okay.
10:29I could give you a sweater.
10:30I feel like I've touched a nerve.
10:31No.
10:32I just...
10:33You know, there comes a time in life...
10:35Walnut bread as well.
10:36Not walnut bread.
10:38Don't be silly.
10:39No, not a nerve.
10:42I love making banana bread.
10:43I wish I had made enough for everybody here tonight.
10:46But...
10:47And I'm...
10:48Yeah.
10:49Well, I've let them all down now.
10:50Yeah, really.
10:51Because, Colin, when you were working with Margot Robbie in your last film,
10:56A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey...
10:58Yeah.
10:59You fed her...
11:00Was it every day you fed her?
11:01I didn't feed her.
11:02I mean...
11:03I would have if she wanted, but I gave the sandwich to her
11:06And she fed herself a crisp sandwich.
11:09You made her a crisp sandwich every day?
11:10Yeah.
11:11Oh, wow.
11:12That's a lovely thing to do.
11:13Thank you, the wooer.
11:14Yeah.
11:15Did she not make it herself?
11:17I...
11:18I just got into...
11:19I...
11:20I...
11:21I...
11:22Adopt habits very quickly.
11:23Just your gesture.
11:24By day two, I...
11:25She...
11:26We were talking in rehearsal about the script and somehow it led to our childhoods,
11:30Which led to food that we enjoyed when we were little.
11:33And that evoke a sense of that bygone time.
11:36And I talked about potato crisps.
11:39Of course.
11:40And a sandwich with Kerrygold butter.
11:42Oh, yeah, yeah.
11:43And yeah, and I brought her one in and she just was licking her lips and loved it.
11:46And so that was it.
11:47The second day...
11:48By the second day, the habit had kicked in and it was every day there was a...
11:51Margot Robbie.
11:53LAUGHTER
11:54It was a joy to bring her in a sandwich.
11:56Do you squish it down like I used to as a kid?
11:58Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know.
12:00Don't even have it.
12:01Yes, yes, absolutely.
12:02Yeah, you get your fingerprints in there.
12:03Yeah.
12:04The FBI could profile you from a well-made potato sandwich.
12:07LAUGHTER
12:08Yeah.
12:09But is this something you do on sets?
12:11Do you make things for people?
12:12Yeah.
12:13To eat?
12:14Yeah.
12:15Erm, no.
12:16OK.
12:17Have people made you things?
12:18No.
12:19Did you get any of Julia's banana bread?
12:20No.
12:21No.
12:22No.
12:23But do I...
12:24I bring things in.
12:25Yeah, definitely.
12:26I bring cakes in.
12:27But I don't make...
12:28Making it...
12:29I'm not gonna...
12:30I guess I'm very generous.
12:31I give people...
12:32Give me all the time.
12:33I do think...
12:34I bring tequila.
12:35Ooh!
12:36Nice!
12:37There's the party.
12:38Absolutely.
12:39Really, really good.
12:40There's the party.
12:41Tequila.
12:42But for after, not during.
12:43Do you collect?
12:44Do you collect tequila?
12:45Friday night.
12:46I don't collect them, I collect them in my throat.
12:47There's great ones.
12:50They are.
12:51But it's celebratory, you know, at the end of the thing.
12:53Yeah.
12:54But early on, I would get so nervous that the band would do a pre-show shot.
12:59It could only be one.
13:00Mm.
13:01And you could only do that in your 20s.
13:02Because after that, you realise it dries you out, you can't continue a huge tour with it.
13:07But yeah, at least it, you know, chilled you out no more.
13:10No.
13:11Nice.
13:12Nice.
13:13Nice memories.
13:14Good.
13:15Talking of memories.
13:16Now, the last time you were here, Julia, we talked a lot about some of your old movies.
13:19And I know nothing makes you happier than talking about those.
13:22But...
13:23But Mystic Pizza, Mystic Pizza, you know, and look, you'd have been successful, whatever.
13:28But this was kind of the film where everyone kind of paid attention and noticed you.
13:31Absolutely.
13:32Yes.
13:33Well, life, I feel, you may know this already.
13:36I don't know.
13:37I just feel a dread right now.
13:39Life might have been different because the part was originally offered to...
13:46Do you know this?
13:47No.
13:48Gloria Espin?
13:49Ta-da!
13:50No.
13:51Yes.
13:52Yes.
13:54That's how I rocked in that same air.
13:56Honestly, I would have sucked.
13:58It would have been terrible.
14:00I wasn't ready.
14:01You know, the career...
14:02I wasn't ready.
14:03No.
14:04You were fantastic in it.
14:05But my music career was starting.
14:07They offered me this role.
14:08I go, do I have to audition?
14:09They go, no, no, no.
14:10You've got the role if you want it.
14:11And I go, I'm not ready for this.
14:13I...
14:14It's a craft, as you all know.
14:15Oh, absolutely.
14:16That's such a wise...
14:17No, I did because I could have messed up my music career and fail at that.
14:21And I knew I wanted to act one day, but I wanted to have time to prepare and, you know,
14:26study.
14:27It's a craft, as you all well know.
14:28And I know that that would have been a big mistake.
14:30Wow.
14:32Well, thank you.
14:33Good decision for both.
14:34I've never heard that.
14:35Yeah.
14:36I see some banana bread in...
14:37I expect...
14:38I expect the least banana bread.
14:41But am I right?
14:42After the first edition of something, you heard that they were looking for a Latin actress
14:47or did you hear...
14:48Was that...?
14:49No.
14:50Not a Latin actress, but after, like, my third reading, my hair was blonde and I'd never
15:00coloured my hair before.
15:01And she said, you know, they're really...
15:03The director's really thinking of someone with dark hair.
15:05You know, these people are supposed to be Portuguese and...
15:08And so I don't know if you could do something with your hair.
15:12So I...
15:13That's probably why they offered me the role, my curly hair.
15:15Well...
15:16That was it.
15:17I had the curls, I just didn't have the dark.
15:18And so I got some...
15:20They used to have this coloured mousse.
15:22I don't know if they still do, but I got black coloured mousse.
15:26And I put in my already very curly, unruly hair.
15:31I walked in there.
15:32It was, like, massive.
15:34And crispy.
15:37Well, I think we've got some pictures.
15:40That's you in the movie.
15:41That looks beautiful.
15:42Yeah, that's...
15:43Man, what's weird is, here's a picture of you, Gloria, from around the same time.
15:46Oh!
15:47Oh, wow!
15:48Sisters!
15:49And you can see Julia in her new film, After the Hunt, in cinemas from next Friday.
16:00We move on now to Colin Farrell's new film, Ballad of a Small Player.
16:04It's in UK cinemas October 17th and Netflix from October the 29th.
16:09It's a beautiful and really kind of an unexpected film.
16:12So we'll start with a clip, and this is you kind of introducing your character.
16:16My name is Doyle.
16:21Lord Doyle.
16:27I'm a high roller on a slippery slope.
16:32A gambler with a pair of lucky gloves.
16:37Washed up on the shores of Macau.
16:41The gambling capital of the universe.
16:45A city of miracles.
16:47And a land saved from the sea.
16:54But I no longer believe in miracles.
16:57And in a few days my life, as I know it, will be over.
17:02Bollocks.
17:15And I walked into this film not knowing anything about it, and so from the beginning I just thought, oh, it's a crime caper, good, you know, we're in for crying.
17:24And that is not what we're in for at all.
17:26No.
17:27What are we in for?
17:28We're in for a jolly good tale about addiction and desperation and looking in all the wrong places for a sense of who you are and the meaning that we all kind of try to scratch at and locate in our lives, you know.
17:42He's looking in all the wrong places.
17:58Lord Doyle, no back story, he's just at the precipice about to kind of hit rock bottom.
18:04And it's that thing of characters who don't know when enough is enough, like it's about that kind of idea of just always wanting more.
18:11Yeah, absolutely.
18:12And your life, his life becomes just all smoke and mirrors.
18:16There's an enormous amount of pretense, artifice, bless you.
18:20And he is, yeah, he's pretty, to be honest with you, he's pretty sick.
18:25He's pretty in the grip of addiction and he doesn't, as no self-respecting addict does, he doesn't know when to stop.
18:32Whether it's gambling or whether it's booze, they're his proclivities, yeah.
18:36And watching it, I thought it was set, this is a clue to that, I thought it was set in a kind of, like, dystopian future.
18:43But that's Macau now.
18:45Yeah, yeah.
18:46That's what Macau looks like.
18:47That's today.
18:48Yeah, it's a really fascinating place.
18:50I mean, I don't know that I ever would have found my way to Macau if it wasn't for this film.
18:54It's off the coast of Hong Kong, I think a little bit south-west of Hong Kong, I think.
18:59And it used to be two islands, Macau.
19:01There was the old town Macau and then an island called Colawan, which is still an old fishing village.
19:05Really lovely, really rustic.
19:07And then they dredged the sea floor in 2006 and they joined both those islands, so now it's one island.
19:12And the middle part that they dredged and they built is in the space of, like, an afternoon.
19:17The Chinese don't mess around.
19:19They built this whole gambling strip, so it's known as the Las Vegas of the East.
19:23But you have that amazing fact about how it's much more serious than Vegas.
19:28Yeah, I mean, they're big players.
19:31I think the money spent in Macau in the space of something ridiculous like a month is Vegas' revenue for the year.
19:40Oh!
19:41Yeah, it's mad.
19:42You know the way you get to see behind the scenes when you're doing things?
19:45What?
19:46The gasping.
19:47Oh, yeah!
19:48It did, yeah.
19:49Sorry.
19:50That was a good gasp, though.
19:51That was a good gasp.
19:53Graham's role took a sort, but you're right.
19:56It's easier to gasp on yourself, I think.
19:59We went backstage and saw this room where the High Rollers play one day and the casino floor manager was showing me.
20:05And there was two baccarat tables and he said, we had a good night last night, the house.
20:09And I said, what happened?
20:10And he said, we had two gentlemen in from the mainland.
20:12They flew in on private jets.
20:13They didn't know each other.
20:14One sat at that baccarat table and one sat at that baccarat table.
20:17And we did well.
20:18And I said, do you mind me asking what a good night for the house is?
20:20And he went, yeah, they both played for four hours and we were up 24 million.
20:25Oh!
20:26Wow!
20:27I want to thank you for teaching me baccarat.
20:33I've always wondered when I went by the tables how you played that.
20:37It's really interesting.
20:38And you don't play it is what you're teaching us.
20:40Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:41Because, Gloria, you've played Vegas.
20:42Did you not do any of the gambling things?
20:44Did you just perform?
20:45I like a little bit of blackjack.
20:47I'll do that for a little bit.
20:49But I like the penny machine.
20:50OK.
20:51I'll sit there for hours with the drum machine all alone with the little thing.
20:56And what's it like performing in Vegas?
20:57Are the audiences?
20:58When I perform in Vegas, I am stuck in my room with 27 humidifiers.
21:03I cannot leave.
21:04Because of the dryness, we're not meant to sing in a desert.
21:07Yeah, yeah.
21:08It's really rough.
21:09But, yeah, it's brutal on performers.
21:11How long were you there?
21:12I was there for a 10-day stint in Celine's theatre before she opened because I was rehearsing for my tour.
21:19And I was everybody having fun, having a great old time, and I was up there, like, breathing in humidity.
21:26Because, Julia, you obviously made Ocean's Eleven in Vegas.
21:29Yes.
21:30Which must be, I mean, the three of you and the rest of you in real casinos, was it just a nightmare to make that film?
21:37No, it was pretty fun.
21:39Do they shut things down completely?
21:41No.
21:42No.
21:43Just little areas.
21:44Just little sections.
21:45But weren't just crowds gathering to watch the filming?
21:49Yes and no.
21:51Because, you know, people come to gamble, that's what they want to do.
21:54Yeah.
21:55And in a way, they're not really paying attention to what's, it's like, oh, a movie seems insignificant to trying to win 24 million dollars.
22:04Or losing.
22:05Or losing.
22:06And are you confirmed for, I think George Gooney just confirmed that there's Ocean's 14.
22:12Yeah, I guess he did.
22:14I mean, I just said that too.
22:16Oh, okay.
22:17I just, yeah.
22:18I mean, I've talked to, we've all talked about it, but I didn't realize he was going to be confirmed.
22:23Put the cell phone down, George.
22:27I'll be texting.
22:28I mean, I'm just hearing about the artificial environment.
22:30That's the thing that scares me the most about it.
22:32Not just the addiction and the kind of pursuit of, oh, this time I'll win as you keep losing more and more.
22:37But also just the fact that you are hermetically sealed in an oxygen pumped chamber in a desert, just burning money.
22:45It just, the whole thing seems like a nightmare, a fever dream, which is what the film was on.
22:49Yeah, no, it really is.
22:50But don't you always think in Vegas, for this, you know, for fun, for a fun, no one looks like they're having fun.
22:56Everyone's just shuffling around because they've lost all the money they brought in an hour and now they're here for another two days.
23:02I do.
23:04Vegas is great to go with your, you know, it was one thing when I was 22 or three, but to go now with my kids, which I have done for the last few years, and you go and see a Cirque du Soleil show, you get a steak dinner, and then you let your six-year-old walk around, you know, Las Vegas Boulevard at one o'clock in the morning and he just thinks the world is his.
23:22Wait, you didn't say you're six-year-old?
23:24Yeah, but I didn't go with him, I let him have space, I let him go with him.
23:26I was, I was, I was, I was, okay.
23:28Yeah.
23:29No, I mean, I, I told him his hand.
23:30He was tagged, it was alright.
23:31Yeah, it was, it was, no.
23:32It taught him to count.
23:33There was no, there was no, there was no, there was no G-strings on stilts or anything, you know, it was all very family fun.
23:46Good team, team family fun.
23:48Well listen, just a reminder that Ballad of a Small Player is coming to cinemas and on Netflix.
23:53Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch brings us an extraordinary piece of work, it's called The Thing with Feathers.
23:59It's in UK and Ireland cinemas from the 21st of November.
24:04So this is Max Porter's famous book about grief, but that's kind of, it's about more than that and yet that is what it's about.
24:12That is very much what it's about.
24:13I mean, it's, it's a portrait of a family, a father who loses his wife very suddenly and two boys in the year that they spend in the aftermath of that chaos and what grief does and how it manifests.
24:26And in this imagining it, it manifests itself as a crow.
24:31And it's based on Max Porter's award-winning novel where he, this, this man is a Ted Hughes scholar so it's about a group of his poems called The Crow.
24:40And in this one he's an illustrator so it's about the manifestation of this illustrator's imagination becoming real and manifest between the three of them.
24:49And The Crow is more than a kind of an image, The Crow is a character.
24:53The Crow is a character.
24:54It was a real man called Eric who is on stilts with an animatronic head and a sort of cloaky thing with a weird arm shape that's half humanoid and a lot crow and claw.
25:06But this amazing, very heavy head and beak and, and, and it's David Thewlis's voice in the film, the final film.
25:14Well in, in the clip we see you playing dad and it's one of your encounters with Crow but here we just hear the voice, as you say, David Thewlis's voice.
25:22Doctor? Doctor, I think I'm being followed by a crow.
25:30You're not fucking real.
25:39Good evening, Widow into our night. Good evening, Widow into our night.
25:45Sticker routines, is that what he said? Children need routines.
25:49Not those boys. Those boys need bows and arrows, they need stars, they need myths, they need chaos, they need crow.
25:57You're not real.
25:59Really.
26:00really.
26:01You're so sorry.
26:04You know, not surprising, it is a very moving film. It's a, it's a very moving film and the little boys, we didn't see them there that who
26:25film it's a it's a very moving film and the little boys we didn't see them there
26:29that would play your your sons they're so little yeah and I just how can you
26:34cast you know because they might mean very good on the afternoon when you met
26:39them but you're with them for a long time how do you know they're gonna be
26:42any good with Dylan Southern who's the director then and also the writer me
26:45he's a visionary behind this film adaptation of the book and he in the
26:49audition process they were the only ones he really really wanted and when I went
26:53in to do a test with them I came out and go and I just I was I'm scared I'm
26:58actually scared it was day it was so dangerous they're not actors they're
27:04untrained they're two seven-year-old brother and they're brothers they're
27:06twins the purity of their vulnerability was the scary thing no just the fact
27:09that they are children mental and out of control yeah no you know they were
27:15fighting each other they were throwing insults at me they were tearing around
27:19the room oh wow but yeah but they are extraordinary and Richard is the slightly
27:25older one by seconds to Henry is sort of preternaturally old soul he looks older
27:32even though they are seconds apart in birth and and there were two moments that I
27:36remember very chiefly for how we kind of got through it and can't quite believe we
27:40did it one moment when I'm telling them their mothers died and Richard just
27:43found it unbelievably funny from and then you know eventually he got into it and I
27:56said I think you know because you're upset you might want to just sort of allow me
28:00to just cut it I think we should have a huddle here I think this is a kind of a
28:03cuddle moment he went no I don't like cuddles I don't like colors well just just this
28:09once just this once he did it and and during the take he whispered in the air
28:14like this he was like I mean what a thing to go through and yeah they were amazing
28:29they are amazing because Julie have you worked with children that you know on
28:32trains kind of little kids that I mean in Erin Brock which I had three children
28:37yeah and one of them was a like a baby or was that one one was a baby there
28:42were two babies there were twin babies yeah there's the baby yeah and they were
28:47all great and the two babies were wonderful until one of the babies I had in
28:53my arms for a scene where there's I'm filling up a pot with water and there's a
28:58cockroach or something appears and I dropped the pot the loud pot and it scared the
29:04baby and the baby started crying which was fine and great and appropriate good
29:08acting on the baby's part and but then she became the crying baby because anytime
29:15she came to me she was like scary pot lady she's still crying somewhere in the
29:21world and so she truly was the crying baby from that time I think for maybe the
29:28rest of the show I still feel bad talking of crying I have to say you know actors
29:32often talk about how taking doing difficult roles you take it home with
29:36you and it's hard to shake off but because of the amount of crying in this
29:41film yeah like just in terms of headaches and that kind of terrible tight head you
29:45get from crying you must have had all of that drunk a lot of water yeah yeah a lot
29:49of crying quite a bit in this yeah and it's you know when there are three
29:52different setups and you're doing it eight times in each and you know those
29:56kind of extremes you hopefully only ever have once or twice at most hopefully in
30:00your life I wish it on nobody but you know we all go through it and I it's a
30:04very important part of why I was proud to make a small independent film about this
30:07subject we don't talk about it much we don't deal with it very well in life and
30:10especially as men to be able to yeah about it deal with it which is what Max's
30:14work is about what the film honors and so I'm not gonna sit here and bemoan the
30:19fact that I had to cry a few times because the real thing's much worse but you
30:22you go through it a lot yeah and also is it easier actors discuss is it easier
30:27to cry if you're going to a very dark place like grief and losing someone or is
30:34it easy to cry in like a rom-com like say at the end of Notting Hill squeezing
30:39out a tear with you Grant yeah you did you didn't why during I'm just a girl you
30:45just said oh yeah I did no you're absolutely right oh that probably one of the most famous moments in the history of romantic comedy is it very hard to produce tears at a moment like that where it's it's happy and light no I mean I think when anything is is authentic obviously what Benedict is talking about is so deep and profound and dark and bleak but if you
31:15you if I attach myself to it in a in a sweet truthful way I mean that that was just I mean it was a beautiful scene and beautiful words to say and and and and obviously touching to me yeah that's how I portrayed it but that's a very different
31:21place that you're in you know tears have actual stress molecules in them is that right yes they do and coming out is you are releasing stress and and pain so that's why they say cry it out because it really works I think you're lovely the idea about this film and that we just had a lot of times
31:28that we don't talk about grief and it's like we don't talk about grief and it's a huge thing and that we don't talk about death and so we don't talk about death and you know that sounds of course
31:51don't talk about grief enough it's a huge thing and that we don't talk about
31:55death like I know that sounds of course obviously more but the word show
31:59Colin
32:10Julia please when you're making this movie and then you go home to your beautiful
32:16wife and your boys like how do you sustain I mean are you do you just want to be
32:22joyful and and happy with them or do you feel you have to kind of maintain a bit
32:28of quietness it's enough to leave on the dance floor and go back and do it yeah
32:34it's a car journey in and a car journey back and that's it yeah those are the
32:37transitional moments and it's the older I get the easier that is especially with
32:41a family that I remember you crying in August Osage County and it's when you
32:45come off the bus Chris Cooper and it is such a beautiful scene you've missed my
32:52dad's funeral and it is such a beautiful sweet touching little show it's such a
32:58great scene thank you you're a very good Benedict oh well Julie Roberts so are you
33:03well now no crying only celebration because a Gloria Esteban she has made a new album yes
33:18yes it's called Raises beautifully done is it right yes Luca Guadagnino yes
33:29okay
33:31Raises yeah I think I've got it here yes and unless people have been lying to me
33:35Raises means roots okay and this is your 30th album 30th album
33:44thank you I didn't count them yes but here's the thing Gloria it's your first album in Spanish for
33:51nearly two decades so why I suppose why wait and why now well it's kind of full
33:56circle book it all converged in this year somehow we didn't plan it that way but I
34:01wanted I thought particularly now it was important to sing in Spanish it's a very
34:07autobiographical record of Emilio's and my love story he wrote his own love song for himself that I was
34:14to sing and it's talking about who we are our culture that we need to really keep alive who we are from
34:23wherever we come and I happen to come from Cuba I have Spanish roots and I wanted to recreate that picture of my
34:29mom and me in that picture on the table that's where we lived when we first left
34:35Cuba when I was two years old so I recreated it because my mom's in me there's my
34:40grandmother and my great-grandmother are in the picture in the picture oh yes
34:44yeah down the air so it's a lot of fun too is a lot of salsa I love singing that
34:50Chile invited me to do Bemba colorado which was a Celia Cruz record and I remembered how much I love
34:56this genre so when Emilio brought this song to me which is a gorgeous song talking about the things
35:01that really matter family love nature I told them I want to do a tropical album with a lot of really
35:09you know dance beats and salsa and fun stuff and that's what we've done on top of you know a couple
35:14real romantic things can't get away from that well as you say roots refers to not not just culture
35:20but also family and that's all reflected in this clip from the video of the title track raises
35:50So sweet. Thank you. I directed and edited the videos for the thing and the other video, Vecina, about the nosy neighbor, I shot in the place where I lived with my mom. With your mom? What? Yes. Yeah. No, we really enjoyed doing this and music.
35:57I sing since I talk so it just came with me and I feel so blessed and privileged. Thank you everybody that has
36:04ever listened or bought any of my music. You make my life so wonderful.
36:08I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I directed and edited the videos for the thing.
36:13And the other video, Vecina, about the nosy neighbor, I shot in the place where I lived with my mom. With your mom? What? Yeah.
36:17We really enjoyed doing this.
36:19And music, I sing since I talk, so it just came with me.
36:23And I feel so blessed and privileged.
36:25Thank you, everybody that has ever listened,
36:28bought any of my music.
36:30You make my life so wonderful.
36:33I appreciate you.
36:34I love you.
36:35And I feel so, so blessed and privileged to make music.
36:39It's a magical thing.
36:40And in the past, we've talked about your special honor.
36:43You had, is it the Miami?
36:45I mean, Sal Machine Boulevard is where we used to live.
36:48Then my sister lives there now.
36:50Yep, there it is.
36:51Oh, there you are.
36:51You know, people would steal that sign.
36:53I'd be in Hawaii, and somebody's holding up the street sign.
36:57And it got expensive, so now they made it smaller.
36:59But now, apparently, there's a new street.
37:02I have my own way.
37:04Gloria Estefan Way will be.
37:06Oh, it's not open yet.
37:07No, it's inaugurated on Monday.
37:08This Monday the 13th, my lucky number.
37:11And it's right alongside the hotel that Emilio and I have owned
37:14for almost three decades on Ocean Drive.
37:17The Cardozo Historic Hole in the Head was filmed there,
37:20Frank Sinatra.
37:21Something about Mary, that famous scene with the shell,
37:26with the shell, was filmed there in our bar.
37:29And yeah, so there's a lot of history.
37:31Oh, Birdcage, also shot in that hotel.
37:34Wow.
37:34Yeah.
37:35And now it's Gloria Estefan Way.
37:36Yes, it's a little way, like me, but yeah, I'm thrilled.
37:42You know?
37:43Well, get yourself down, Gloria Estefan Way.
37:46And love you having me back, and congratulations on the new album.
37:49Raises is out now.
37:52Well, I think we're all in the mood for some more music now,
37:55so it's time for tonight's performance.
37:56This British pop icon has had the most UK number one albums
38:00of any solo artist.
38:01Here performing his new single, Pretty Face,
38:04it is Robbie Williams!
38:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:10Here we go, here we go, here I go with you.
38:23What I know, I don't know, but I die for you.
38:27Pretty smile, pretty eyes, big energy.
38:31I'm pretty sure that I know you die for me.
38:35You're the reason why I'm the man I am today.
38:43You're the reason why I see myself this way.
38:50Such a pretty face.
38:54Juni-East and underbred.
38:57She's everything I love about.
39:01Everything I love about this world.
39:08She's got it.
39:09Such a pretty face.
39:12She's got it.
39:13She's everything I love about.
39:17Everything I love about this world.
39:23Here we are, here we are, and here we will stay.
39:27I'm with you, you're with me till judgment day.
39:31I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love with you.
39:36With you.
39:39You're the reason why I'm the man I am today.
39:47You're the reason why I see myself this way.
39:54Such a pretty face.
39:56Juni-East and underbred.
39:58Such a pretty face.
40:01She's everything I love about.
40:05Everything I love about this world.
40:12She's got it.
40:13Such a pretty face.
40:17She's everything I love about.
40:21Everything I love about this world.
40:26I'm the one of three.
40:30You're the best I've seen.
40:33I'll give you everything.
40:37And what's left of me.
40:43She's got it.
40:44Such a pretty face.
40:46She's got it.
40:47She's everything I love about.
40:52Everything I love about this world.
40:56She's got it.
40:58She's got it.
41:00Such a pretty face.
41:03She's everything I love about.
41:07Everything I love about this world.
41:12Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
41:16Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
41:19Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
41:25You know I'll always be looking at you quick.
41:35But the biggest prize is what's behind those eyes.
41:42Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
41:49This is Robbie Williams, everybody!
41:53And his band!
41:56Come on over, Robbie!
41:58Thank you so much for that.
42:01That was terrific.
42:03Thank you so much.
42:03Thank you very much.
42:04This is Paula, Gloria, there it is, Paula and Julia.
42:09Oh, that is Robbie Williams.
42:13There it goes.
42:18Robbie Williams, who do you know on the couch?
42:20Uh, no, everybody from watching them on the tally.
42:23OK, that's good.
42:24And Julia Roberts.
42:26Oh, my God, I can't, I've watched, I've watched Pretty Woman six times in a row.
42:30What?
42:30And at the end of the sixth time, I was like, one day, I will take a prostitute shop in.
42:36Oh.
42:36And I did, I did some back there.
42:42That's a, wow.
42:43That's, that's a lovely story, Robbie.
42:45That's, that's really lovely.
42:48Um, so, that, uh, song, that is off the new album, uh, Britpop, which is out in February.
42:57February 2026.
42:58And, so, the idea, dear Britpop, you're referencing your appearance at Glastonbury here.
43:07Yes.
43:08In 1995, I was in a boy band.
43:11You auditioned for a boy band, didn't you?
43:12Tell us about it, yeah.
43:13Yeah.
43:14Didn't go well.
43:15You know, it did, did it?
43:16It was two dead mics, and they wouldn't let me have one of them.
43:18Oh, that's all.
43:19Maybe it did go well.
43:21I was in Take That, and we were a lily-white pop band, a, a boy band.
43:26And, uh, at the time, there was sort of, you know, uh, un-cool, naffness, that kind of thing.
43:32And then Glastonbury was the height of militant indiness.
43:37And, uh, people like me shouldn't go there.
43:39Doesn't it?
43:40This thing doesn't exist anymore.
43:42But in 1995, and also, there was a lot of rules in the boy band.
43:45I wasn't allowed to do anything, really.
43:47And then, uh...
43:48Stuck by that, didn't you, Robbie?
43:49Yeah, I did, Jenna.
43:50Stuck by that, for both of us.
43:53Yeah, yeah.
43:53So, anyway, and then one day, because we weren't allowed to go to clubs or things like that,
43:58and we weren't allowed to go to festivals, and then, one day, I was just not having it.
44:03When I realised that they couldn't fire me anymore, when we were, like, too popular to be fired,
44:08I was like, I can do anything I like now, and I'm going to.
44:12So, I turned up at Glastonbury in 1995, and a lot of people were like,
44:17what are you doing here?
44:18And I was like, well, I'm having it, aren't I?
44:20That's what I'm doing here.
44:21But then inside, there's the album, there's this blue plaque that...
44:25So, did you make this blue plaque?
44:27What's it say?
44:28This is the one...
44:28And then I'll decide if I did it or not.
44:30This is the one that was put up...
44:31Yes, I did.
44:32So, did this, was this up in Glastonbury this year?
44:34Yes, it was.
44:35So, I think we've got a picture, so this is the blue plaque, it's up in Glastonbury,
44:38and it's basically, Robin Williams entered this area without accreditation,
44:42authorisation, or alignment with prevailing taste.
44:45His presence was uninvited, unofficial, and ultimately inevitable.
44:49Yeah.
44:50Yes, I wrote that.
44:51Yeah.
44:55Were you at Glastonbury this year?
44:56No, but everybody thought I was.
44:58So, for like, when that went up for 24 hours, my phone was blowing up.
45:02We know you're here, we know you're doing the secret performance,
45:05we've seen you in the healing field, what time are you on?
45:07And I was in Belgium.
45:08And so, it was fun to take over Glastonbury and not actually be there.
45:13And I'd like to announce on the TV tonight that I'm playing Glastonbury next year.
45:18Oh, yeah.
45:19Yeah.
45:24That's the result on next year, isn't it?
45:25No, I'm still going to play it, though.
45:26Okay.
45:27Yeah, so I'm going to...
45:29Like it or not.
45:30Like it or not.
45:31Because they haven't asked me since 1998, so I'm going to go do it anyway.
45:35Okay.
45:36So I'm going to turn up in a truck and then put the side down
45:39and then do half an hour.
45:41Nice.
45:41Like a carny.
45:42Yeah.
45:42Yeah.
45:43Are you going to tell anyone you're there?
45:45No.
45:46Okay.
45:46No.
45:47But I am doing it.
45:49There's people between us.
45:50Yeah, yeah.
45:51Just frequently, European stadium tour was your summer and everything.
45:55Huge, but now next year, you're going out with this album.
45:58Yeah.
45:59To proper small venues where, like, there'll be a frenzy for these tickets.
46:04Like you're playing Barrowlands, Liverpool Olympia, Brixton Academy.
46:07I mean, these are small venues for you.
46:08When was the last time you played venues like that?
46:11Um, in 1997, I think, was the last time that I had to do that.
46:18So, thankfully, I'm choosing to.
46:21This is not where my career is at, everybody.
46:23What is the thinking?
46:25Well, actually, so it's maybe 30 years now since I put out the first album,
46:32Live Through a Lent.
46:33So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to play my first album
46:35from beginning to end and then make them listen to my new album too,
46:39which I will also play from beginning to end.
46:42I'm just suckering them in, really.
46:44I'll give you this, but then I'll hit you over the head with this new stuff
46:48that I'll make you listen to.
46:50And very good it will be.
46:51Listen, you always put on a fantastic performance.
46:53Thank you so much for that.
46:55Robbie Williams, everybody.
46:59And that is really it.
47:01But here we go.
47:02It's just the time for a visit to the big red chair.
47:06You've been in the chair now, Robbie.
47:07Yes, I have.
47:08It's not as far back as you think it's been.
47:09No, no.
47:10I thought, yeah.
47:11Hello.
47:11Hi, how's it going?
47:12Good.
47:13And what's your name?
47:14I'm Ben.
47:15Ben.
47:15And where are you from, Ben?
47:16I'm from Limerick in Ireland.
47:18Lovely.
47:19Loving Limerick.
47:20And what do you do in Limerick, Ben?
47:22Well, I'm living here full-time now.
47:24Oh, right.
47:24Working in construction.
47:25Oh, right.
47:26When did you come over?
47:27This time last year.
47:28How's it going?
47:29Very well.
47:30OK, Ben.
47:31Going very well.
47:33Off you go with the story, Ben.
47:35Right, so it was around COVID time when all the regulations started easing up
47:41and you could start going drinking in hotels again.
47:43So me and my friend had a great idea.
47:45We'd book into a hotel in Limerick where we both lived
47:47and we'd stay there so we could go on the beer for the night.
47:52Basically, the hotel we were in, our friend was working there as well
47:55and he was very, very heavy-handed with the portions he was giving us.
47:59So the last thing I remember is walking out of the front door of the hotel
48:03and the next thing I remember is an absolute banshee scream
48:07and I woke up, looked around me, I was in a tiny box
48:11and I look out the little hole, I see my mother looking in at me.
48:15I was asleep in my dog's kennel out the back garden.
48:17We love Ben.
48:20You can walk, Ben.
48:21You can walk.
48:22Well done, Ben.
48:25All right, that really is all about tonight.
48:27If you'd like to have a go in bed, show yourself and tell your story,
48:30you've got that on the bio of our website at this very address.
48:32Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests.
48:35Robbie Williams!
48:38Gloria Esteban!
48:41Benedict Cumberbatch!
48:43Colin Farrell!
48:46And Julia Roberts!
48:50Do join me next week with Florence and the Machine, Tessa Thompson,
48:55Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence, Jeremy Allen White,
48:58and the boss himself, Bruce Springsteen.
49:00I'll see you then.
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