Howdy Gina,
> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Gina P. Banyard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 9 July 2024 at 18:50, Richard Miles <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I’ve asked for karma three separate times in this feed alone and it’s pretty unclear
>> who has that
>> ability, my apologies for assuming. Since you responded to that message specifically, I
>> figured you were a karma granter.
>
> Probably because this is not how one asks for karma.
>
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> to vote. See https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting#rfc_proposer
>
> The implication, that seemingly every other person has managed to do, is to send a NEW email
> thread.
> The traffic of the list is extremely high at the moment, and the handful of people that can
> grant karma do not have the time to sift through every single random email.
Thanks for explicitly clarifying this for me. My other proposal had it explicitly in the first
message
to no avail, so I wasn’t sure. Just a humble programmer is trying to make things better.
>
>> This just differs from other advice already given and the online how-to page, but seriously
>>
>> I'll just get started if thats what needs to happen. You have this opinion with past
>> experience
>> granted, but your not really giving practical feedback on why this implementation is poor.
>
> The how-to page *explicitly* says:
>
> Consider whether the feature concept should be voted on before you invest time in
> implementation.
> Or perhaps an implementation is needed to show the feature is feasible; in this case, make it
> clear whether or not the current implementation is being voted on.
>
> For a lot of large features, like what you are proposing, one needs some sort of implementation
> to even determine the feasibility.
I haven’t been under the assumption that anyone thought or would think it is unfeasible.
Through this discussion and benchmarks, we proved, if anything, its potential use. I get
people wanting something more substantial. I’m absolutely not trying to waste anyones
time and have started on the implementation but stopped due to feedback from this list.
Maybe that was the mistake.
> I have barely read the thread,
It’s hard to show my value when we won't read the thread.
> but I have serious doubts that you understand the complexity of the task at hand, as you are
> far from the first one to propose this nor have a go at this.
There is not a lot of community encouragement going around today :( I’m not sure this
matters at all. I promise to try my best!
> Moreover, considering the volume of the list and RFCs, any RFC that is just about syntax is
> something that I personally will just vote no without reading as I have, frankly, more pressing
> things to do.
I’m okay with the doubts and appreciate your consideration of the matter.
Also, thanks for taking the time to respond!
If a vote is unneeded, and no one has any feedback regarding why this syntax would not work,
then I will implement it exactly as planned:
https://github.com/RichardTMiles/TypedArraysRFC/blob/main/README.md
TypedArraysRFC/README.md at main · RichardTMiles/TypedArraysRFC
github.com
> Your RFC and proposal would have way more discussion if you were not proposing this when
> feature freeze is fast approaching and people are trying to wrap up RFCs they have worked on for the
> past year.
> For the sake of your proposal, I would seriously reconsider proposing this prior to September.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update#:~:text=Feature%20freeze%20is%20supposed%20to,done%20during%20the%20beta%20period.
It was also suggested that I open a new, updated thread by another contributor in a DM.
I suppose I’ll hold off on this now given todays feedback.
It seems like no one is in direct opposition of what im proposing, but want the POC!
I’ll get to work on this and get back to everyone!
Best,
Richard Miles