Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Transform exit() from a language construct into a standard function

From: Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 15:46:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Transform exit() from a language construct into a standard function
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>
>> On 30.07.2024 at 11:49, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
>> 
>> > I have just opened the vote for the "Transform exit() from a 
>> > language construct into a standard function" RFC: 
>> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/exit-as-function
>> >
>> > The vote will last for two weeks until the 13th of August 2024.
>> 
>> As userland PHP developer, I always regarded exit as a control flow 
>> instruction (quite similar to break), and as such I'm not really in 
>> favor of converting it to a proper function (especially since it is 
>> not, because the parantheses could be omitted).
>
> Xdebug uses exit for exactly that too. For control flow analysis. And I 
> also always have considered it to be a control flow instruction.
>
> I see no benefit in changing it to a function, especially because 
> there will never be a function "exit" from it, just only an "entry". 
> This breaks function execution symmetry (and causes issues with Xdebug 
> when I last tried to make it work with a development branch for this 
> RFC).
>
> As the RFC is scarce on mitigations for this, I am currently voting "no" 
> as I am unsure how certain features in Xdebug could remain working. I 
> have written to the list on other reasons before 
> (https://externals.io/message/123277#123450) without a conclusion.
>
> I'll consider changing it to yes if there is a commitment for addressing 
> these feature-maintaining-requirements to keep Xdebug working, either 
> through new APIs (think observer) or other mitigations.
>
> cheers,
> Derick

While I support language and engine cleanup, if this change causes issues for Xdebug that is a
fairly significant problem.  For that reason I have shifted my Yes to a No for now.  Like Derick, I
will switch it back to a Yes should the Xdebug issue be resolved to his satisfaction.  But
"keep Xdebug working" is a rather mission-critical requirement for any RFC, as a practical
matter.

--Larry Garfield


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