Re: Core liason for PHP FIG
Hi Kris,
thanks for your response. Just a short note: I'm not in any ways officially related to PHP FIG,
except that I find it personally to be a good initiative. Rest of the answers below.
Am 16.12.2012 um 11:50 schrieb Kris Craig <[email protected]>:
> My one concern with this idea is that it could give the erroneous impression that the coding
> style standards your group advocates are endorsed, implicitly or otherwise, by the PHP Group. There
> is no "official" standard when it comes to spaces vs. tabs and whether to place brackets
> on the same line, for example. Given how many different competing standards there are out there, I
> fear that we could run the risk of showing favoritism by "legitimizing" one standards
> group but not others.
I see what you mean. On the other hand though, a majority of important PHP projects are organized
there. We (as core developers) can’t ignore what these projects are discussing and I don't
think we should. And if we have a saying in that, why shouldn’t we endorse such an initiative.
> Personally, and I'm just speaking for myself here, I think you guys over-reached with your
> PSR-2 style guidelines. I totally agree with your goal of aiding consistency, but these standards
> are inherently arbitrary and it makes me very uneasy to see anyone proclaim that such-and-such is
> the "correct" style of doing something in PHP. The only solution I can see is to create
> several different style rulesets to reflect all the noteworthy styles in popular use. Of course,
> then you run the risk of undermining the whole consistency goal.
I, again, can’t speak for PHP FIG, but it seems to me like the survey technique worked out pretty
well. So PSR-1 and PSR-2 are what most projects are doing anyway.
> I wouldn't be adverse to us linking to your project, so long as we do the same for any
> others that crop-up and we make it clear that these third-party standards are not officially
> endorsed by the PHP Group. I also think it's cool if anyone here wants to join your project
> and contribute, so long as that person is representing him/her self.
See point above. We can’t ignore what major players in the ecosystem do and I don't think we
should. I would much rather see PHP core have a saying in their decisions than standing by the lines
and letting things happen (which might even be counter-productive for core).
cu,
Lars
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