A couple of months ago there where 30+ likes on meme posts etc. Nowadays it seems like posts on beehaw.org are upvoted more than lemmy.ml.

Did this change come with the latest lemmy update that gave everyone those language errors?

  • uthredii ( uthredii@beehaw.org ) English
    23·
    3 years ago

    I don’t really think Lemmy.ml will have very good retention of new users. Because:

    1. New users will mostly come from reddit or mastodon.
    2. Most users of reddit and mastodon willing to leave are anti corporate, anti authoritarian, anti-war, pro human rights.
    3. A lot of posts that you see on Lemmy (either from Lemmy.ml or lemmygrad) are pro-russia, pro china or anti-western to the point of being really annoying. Its not fun to talk to people without a hint of nuance.

    So it is not surprising that new users will get turned off by this and leave (or move to beehaw).

    • Gloating Swann ( gloating_swann@beehaw.org ) English
      16·
      3 years ago

      I confess to trying and then leaving lemmy.ml in a huff because I allowed myself to get dragged into an argument with some asshole. I came back (to Beehaw) when I heard about a potential reddit exodus, and thought I’d give it another chance.

    • petrescatraian ( petrescatraian@libranet.de ) 
      16·
      3 years ago

      @uthredii@beehaw.org wrote:

      A lot of posts that you see on Lemmy (either from Lemmy.ml or lemmygrad) are pro-russia, pro china or anti-western to the point of being really annoying. Its not fun to talk to people without a hint of nuance.

      Not only that the posts are the way they are, but the mods themselves are really supportive of this as well. Even from the fact that they:

      a. Do not ban/censor in any way people having these views
      b. They ban you if you say anything about their beloved Russia or China because you are somehow racist against Russians or against Chinese for that matter.

      Here’s one entry from their mod log, for example:

      (yes, I know you can easily find it, but I censored the names anyway for privacy reasons FWIW)

      Edit: I forgot to mention that they are hugely disrespectful when countering arguments they don’t agree with. See threads like this where they leak around this place as well. Perhaps they are not all like that, but the most vocal and active users are. I am totally for being countered myself, as long as you have arguments, and you can tell me in a respectful way that I’m wrong. But the moment you’re bringing in personal attacks, is the moment I’m no longer willing to have any meaningful discussion with you. Period.

      @sexy_peach

    • anji ( anji@lemmy.anji.nl ) 
      15·
      3 years ago

      Same. The strong pro-authoritarian-regimes views of many posters on Lemmy.ml also turned me off. They’re of course free to discuss those viewpoints but it’s not a community I wanted to interject myself into. And with Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad being the two top sites of the Lemmyverse it made me wonder if this platform was really for me. Fortunately I found Beehaw to be a community which feels more comfortable in this respect.

    • morrowind ( morrowind@lemmy.ml ) English
      9·
      3 years ago

      I’m thinking of joining beehaw for this very reason. I like lemmy, been on here a while (and used to browse without an account for longer), but lemmygrad and tankies spoil lemmy.ml and it’s not getting better as I’d hoped. I still stayed so far, because until recently these two were the only instances with any activity, but now that’s changing.