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evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org )  to retrocomputing@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 months ago

What was the Windows 3.0/1 graphical alternative that also ran on DOS?

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What was the Windows 3.0/1 graphical alternative that also ran on DOS?

evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org )  to retrocomputing@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 months ago
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  • macniel ( DmMacniel@feddit.org ) 
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    Maybe GeOS/Geoworks?

    https://winworldpc.com/product/geos/geoworks-1x

    • SharkWeek ( SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Geos was great on the C64, but completely useless, lol

      I didn’t know there was a PC version!

      • macniel ( DmMacniel@feddit.org ) 
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        was it though? I guess it depend on having a mouse, a second floppy drive and a printer. You could thus use it as a desktop publishing platform, or spreadsheet calculator.

        • SharkWeek ( SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          Nope, it was slow to load and use compared with text-based software for doing the same thing back in the day. An Amstrad PCW was better for actual work

  • bufalo1973 ( bufalo1973@piefed.social ) 
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    ViewMAX or GEM. Both from Digital Research.

  • methodicalaspect ( unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social ) 
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    DOS Shell was something like that. Not much in the way of functionality, but it was graphical…ish.

  • Sundray ( sundray@lemmus.org ) 
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    A great resource when looking for older GUI shells/OS’s is Toastytech: http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html

    Lots of info and screenshots to browse through there. And if you don’t find what you’re looking for you might find something else that’s interesting :)

  • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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    The first computer my dad bought, back in the late '80s, was mostly a DOS machine that also came with a mouse-driven GUI called GEM.

    I don’t know if it ran on top of DOS, though. It booted directly from its own set of disks.

  • Pommes_für_dein_Balg ( mech@feddit.org ) 
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    It looked like this:

    It was pretty similar to modern Windows but without taskbar or Start menu.
    Instead, you had a main window called “program manager” with icons in it to start other programs.
    Do you have any specific questions about it?

    • evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      What is that? I don’t think that’s what I had in mind. I think it’s DESQview I was trying to think of. Anyway, not important… it was just driving me nuts I could not remember.

      • Pommes_für_dein_Balg ( mech@feddit.org ) 
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        Sorry, I think I misunderstood your question.
        And I had literally never heard of any Windows 3 alternatives up to now.

        • evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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          To be fair, I was quite vague. I think there are multiple right answers… but I recalled one starting w/a ‘D’ and that’s what I was trying to recall.

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            I thought your question was clear for what it’s worth. If it was Windows 3.0 era you’re probably looking for ViewMAX (from the same company as DR-DOS, which was an MS-DOS compatible operating system, maybe that’s where the ‘D’ comes from?). I vaguely remember reading (or maybe watching) a good feature about it online a while ago but I can’t find it unfortunately.

            • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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              Digital Research DOS, of my memory is right

              • anothermember ( anothermember@feddit.uk ) 
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                Correct, yes (I meant the ‘D’ evenwicht said they recalled it starting with if that wasn’t clear, indeed for Digital Research, in fact I had to look up DR-DOS to remember the name ViewMAX).

                • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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                  O, wow, ViewMaxx… I had completely forgotten that.

                  Sure would like to get a collection of this stuff and run in a VM just for fun.

                  HP had an internal system just to make a simple GUI in DOS, forget what it was called. Just gave you buttons for a dozen programs.

  • one_old_coder ( one_old_coder@piefed.social ) 
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    Is there a specific screenshot you’re thinking of?

    • evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      No, I figured if I could recall the name I could get a nostalgic fix by searching it. I found this:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESQview

      I recall DESQview was much lighter weight and better performing than Windows, but had limitations. I did not recall that the windows were text only within, but that’s starting to fill some holes in my memory.

      • andyburke ( andyburke@fedia.io ) 
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        You may be thinking of DesqViewX:

        https://lunduke.substack.com/p/desqviewx-the-forgotten-mid-1990s

        Edit for a little personal anecdote: ran a 2-line (2400, then later 14.4k) WWIV BBS under this on a 386sx in the 90s. What an awesome time that was.

  • SubArcticTundra ( SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ) 
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    You might be talking about the DOS Shell. A pseudo graphical file managerm shipped with DOS.

  • teft ( teft@piefed.social ) 
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    DOS Shell?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS_Shell

  • originalucifer ( originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ) 
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    q. name one ‘os’ that sucked donkey balls getting a functional tcp/ip stack runnin’

    • evenwicht ( evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      In those days, DOS was the OS. Windows and DESQview were just window manager apps that ran other apps.

      • originalucifer ( originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ) 
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        hence the single quotes… i was just pullin a jeopardy

        • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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          Haha

    • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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      Oh Trumpet something… The hell of getting a stack back then

      WinSock Trumpet (yea, that was on Win 3.1)

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