That makes sense for allowing beep to stay. I still don’t think it’s the right move given the extreme level of bad faith in which he operated, but ok, you guys are making a point about objectivity. Rules shouldn’t apply ex post facto to members of the community.

However. Rules should and typically do apply ex post facto to content. If I dig up an old comic with the word “fuck” in it that was never removed, would you remove it now that curse words are allowed? Or would you say there’s no current rule against it, so it stays?

I’m sure it would stay. Common sense wins out in that case, just as it should in the other case.

The point of having rules around content isn’t to punish users who break the rules. It’s to shape this place into the community we want it to be. If we want it to be a community that respects artists, then we need to remove the content that’s so blatantly and aggressively disrespectful to artists.

Posts that broke the per-day rule or the old NSFW rule aren’t harming anyone. But these posts that are an intentional perversion of a creator’s art, removing their name and in some cases surreptitiously modifying the content of the picture, are passively harming those artists every day that they exist in this community. You’re leaving them out there to be found and disseminated, to supercede the artist’s original work.

I seriously doubt the community values artist integrity less than “hundreds of existing discussions” about what an asshole the poster is, so I think this should be a pretty easy stance to take.

You improve nothing and create nothing.

Did you end up removing his posts with the altered comics? Or are they still out there to disseminate his inferior versions across the internet?

And just to be clear, I think not banning beep is an idea with no upside.

Weird. There wasn’t any attribution for you to remove, and yet you edited it anyway.

Personally I’d say it’s the hero being an orphaned “chosen one”, or maybe the damsel in distress trope. But maybe it depends on what kind of media you consume.

You know we’re on the internet and you can just look stuff up instead of making it up.

The title makes it sound like the body was there for a week.

The body was there for a few hours while they sent the employees back to work. Then it was removed. Then they hid it for a week.

I am aware of at least one real instance of this happening. Not the hat burning, but my wife is Facebook friends with an old coworker of hers who is self-identified MAGA. This is his latest post, under the Trump/Jesus picture:

Always been a fan of the guy, but the last 3-4 months I’ve lost all respect for him. Has turned into Israel’s puppet with this war, turned the entire world against us by joining a side that is quite literally murdering thousands of innocents left and right in Gaza and Lebanon, and now posting this blasphemous shit, on the day of Orthodox Easter, no less. Fuck him.

I don’t know if this is happening in numbers significant enough for it to matter, but it’s one real case.

Thumbnail looks like a bloodhound.

I would like to think that they don’t have that.

Did you not understand that I was talking about immigration? Which is one of the ways we solve that. All of that.

Besides which we’re actually talking about keeping the population stable. A declining population is bad for everyone economically. Luckily population growth naturally slows down in modernized societies, which is why allowing people to immigrate is good for everyone.

The replacement rate is down to 1.56, meaning every couple is having, on average, 1.56 children in the United States. We need two or above to keep the population at the same amount.

There’s actually another way to keep the population up, and it’s great for America economically and culturally, and it makes the world a better place at the same time.

It’s LLM-generated. I’ve seen this tweet discussed in a few different places now and I’m surprised I’m the only one pointing this out.

The spelling, grammar and sentence structure are too good for it to be Trump. It’s too coherent and fact-based, but it’s also too cohesive. It meanders like Trump, but then it gets back to the point. It’s presenting a formulaic argument. That’s something LLMs always do and Trump never does.

It’s also loaded with em dashes. There is no possibility that Trump used an em dash on purpose.

Trump probably put the prompt into ChatGPT himself and then didn’t bother to read it.

Military coups usually don’t install a democracy.

Which AI? I asked Google AI about a webcomic, and it offered to find the artist for me. I said sure.

First it made something up completely out of thin air. Then it picked a random user who had commented on the comic. It had already identified the OC post of the comic, so all it had to do was check the username, and it couldn’t even do that.

Exactly. The threads are not the point. The art is the point. Most of the comments were about what kind of asshole would remove attribution anyway.

It comes down to what we want this community to be. Is this just some third tier meme group, sharing the reposts of the reposts from other communities? Or is it a place that’s respectful to artists, that could eventually be where content creators post their original stuff?

Some other things will have to go our way to make the latter happen, but it’ll never happen if we’re positioned for the former.

But if I’m understanding the situation correctly, I don’t think beep is even banned. Which would make sense why the new mod is so reticent about nuking his content.

I’m all for second chances, but as long as a single beeped comic still exists in this community, he and every one of his alts needs to be banned. Anything less is hostile to artists and makes this a meme factory instead of a place to share and celebrate comics.

You guys are making me want to try karaoke again, which is not something I’ve ever felt before.

Can you clarify something else for me? Is the offender in this case not being banned? Because he is way, way past third chances, and I don’t think the community is ok with that.

Ok, but you can just remove the vandalized comics. Otherwise they’ll continue to do damage. Taking them down doesn’t hurt anyone.

The efforts in the comment sections were towards this end - to try to stop the harm he was doing.

You’re missing my point. If I drew a comic and signed my name on it, and some jerk removed my signature, it doesn’t matter if I get credit in the comments. Because that image is going to get reposted elsewhere, and my name is no longer with it.

In some cases he even used AI to “upscale” comics, and it made changes to the art. All of his posts need to be nuked. They’re poisoning the well.