Calling for donations! We’re running Lemmy.World for you to use for free, however the running costs aren’t for free… If you appreciate our services and are willing and able to help out paying the bills, please consider a donation on one of these platforms:
- https://ko-fi.com/fhfworld - Preferred.
- https://liberapay.com/fhf
- https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld - (Either recurring or one-time donations).
- https://patreon.com/mastodonworld - (Recurring donations only)
I’d love to understand the costs associated with a project like this. Do you have a breakdown anywhere of where money goes each month?
We keep a blog but it’s way overdue… but the costs didn’t change much so you get an idea: https://blog.mastodon.world/
Goddamn, I thought it was cheaper! I donate already to my instance and dev but I’ll throw what I can your way too.
We keep a blog but it’s way overdue…
Hugely understandable. It’s so much rougher than people think for a small project to maintain a consistent blog. Thank you for the posts you do have!
Lemmy.world is a small project?
I was figuring someone would ask about this eventually, and I’d say: yeah. I work on Wikipedia with hundreds of thousands of active editors, millions of articles, some ungodly readership, a foundation behind us, a considerable hand in every commercial LLM on Earth, and an SEO that would make The North Face say “Yeah, I’ll perform meticulous, reputation-damaging sabotage for that.”
Likewise, I’ve worked for years on PCSX2, with a team of (I haven’t counted, but) 25 or so. I don’t remember because I never nosed into it, but I think we make less than Fedihosting (at €1300/mo right now for Fedihosting, that’s €15,600/year). Despite currently being one of the most well-regarded emulators out there, everyone knows everyone, fuck knows nobody is turning a profit compared to the timesink, everyone is in it because they want to be there and enjoy the company and the work, and 99.9% of people on fhe street will give you a quizzical look if you point to that as a hobby – born out of not even knowing what the fuck that is.
I don’t know the cost breakdown of what Fedihosting spends on servers, but I do know that there’s probably not a lot of that €15,600 gross per year – if any – left over for the people (at least several; never checked) doing the hours of thankless, delicate work when your whole thing is hosting multiple social media platforms. Beyond that, the Fediverse is pretty small and certainly brings minimal glory. Usually at least some people know what PCSX2 is because they’ve used it. On the other hand, you need to be a very specific type to know what a “Lemmy.World” is (I wish that weren’t the case).
I just meant like I thought this was the main lemmy project or something or is this just the most popular/default instance? I thought these guys built the whole lemmy ecosystem
Lemmy.ml is the instance of the lemmy creators I believe
Is that not the instance everyone hates because of their toxic politics, or something? Does that also reflect the Lemmy creators?
I don’t follow the discourse myself, I just keep seeing people make derogatory references to it here and there.
This became the most popular instance bc Lemmy’s devs run their own lemmy.ml instance with a strong tankie moderation angle, and many people don’t like that.
and an SEO that would make The North Face say “Yeah, I’ll perform meticulous, reputation-damaging sabotage for that.”
Thanks, this sent me down a rabbit hole reading about the incident :D
If anyone else is interested: Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia - The North Face
Can you promote this link to the body of the post instead of buried in a comment?
Yes I will put the link in the post later today. I am not home and am not logged in to lwadmin on the phone.
Their Open Collective page has useful information about their budget.
https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld#category-BUDGET
Perhaps it doesn’t show everything, but it seems like it shows quite a lot of how their donated money flows.
It seems like that page might not be taking into account income from other platforms though; it estimates the annual budget as being €4,000, despite the official monthly budget (as listed on their Mastodon blog as of last September) being €1,700.
2€/mo. Sorry it can’t be more. Thank you for all you do.
Reddit never got a cent out of me.
I’ve been donating monthly for almost 3 years, and I’m gonna doubble my donation amount! (1€ -> 2€)
Done. OP please let me know yearly (i never do subscriptions but i’m willing to manually repeat yearly)
I also need to be reminded now and then,
Happy to pitch a tenner when reminded, you guys and Wikipedia.
I recommend writing a log of donations. Then you can look at where you donated, when and how much, and remind yourself of where you want to send money again.
Now, I am pretty lazy. So it’s just my_donations.txt, open with Vim and whip out that calculator. Should probably be a spreadsheet instead. I don’t know if Calc let’s me do math based on key (place of donation).
I guess I could have separate columns per key (to maintain log nature), then do subtotal per key to specific cells, then grand total from those cells.
Still begs the question of how I would do that per year.
Sperate columns each year?
Just make range selection at the end of year?
To be honest, I never actually used any spreadsheet software. I suppose there might be some logic, if so, there sure would be a way to check the date column on same row as amount.But anyway, Vim + calculator. 👍
I use libre Calc for my donations.
If you want to sum based on a criteria you can use sumif().
I use it to track what types of donations I make (deductible, political, etc)
I’d love to donate since this is just a superior reddit imo
It’s not just superior but mostly… humane… and still much more trusted to invest your finite life time into, I believe…
There’s love, empathy, and reason I feel…...not just "shadow banned" as on Reddit...
Though, I was already banned for utterly unexpected reasons at !womensstuff@piefed.blahaj.zone and !privacy@lemmy.ml , and though these are still not Lemmy.World, there were at least appreciated reasons stated (in the Modlog), and not just “shadow banned” as on Reddit for utterly unknown reasons with no official responses with money sent into their Vault and Awards I do regret know being shadow-banned myself…
No one cares who you are there and how much you’ve done for tens of years; it’s an empty void and sorrow…
Regardless…Thank you, heartfelt, dear Lemmy and PieFed Developers, Artists, Community… for the ineffably magnificent Marvel… Art you do…
Please stay safe, and I wish you success, prosperity, achievements to treasure, reach new horizons, stability… and peace…
Done. 20€ and lots of appreciation.
Have stopped a subscription I don’t have a use for anymore so I’ll jump on your ko-fi at the end of this month as the replacement for that. Absolutely deserved, hope you get all that’s needed! (Does ko-fi have reoccurring payments? Haven’t used it before, and I’d like to have an automatic monthly donation)
Yes, I make a recurring monthly donation via ko-fi.
I threw in 10 American flavored euros. Hope it helps!
Can’t donate money but are you still looking for
– Technical / infra people , for helping run all the instances and plan for the future. (We use linux/docker/terraform/ansible, so either you need to know about them, or want to learn about them).
Yes we are, can you contact me at info@fedihosting.foundation about this?
Sure! It’ll be a tuta mail address. What timezone are y’all targeting for collab?
Most of the team is EU and US at the moment. But we can use help from all timezones
Just gave a €30 dono. I get way more value out of my Lemmy account than that. Thanks for all you do to provide an alternative to big tech
Just upgraded to Tier 3 for monthly donations. Thank you for all you do!
Donated
Any options to pay in crypto?
Only Ada at the moment addr1qyacucygjuc8lnnk76vxax6wejghhlvkq4t6cs0mxx49drwxef63ye5wqjeu2pd0afj8ytz2ty24rgzq96mlfyhdxdwq9xr45u
Donated, keep it going please!
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