This article is a bit longer so it’s divided in 3 parts:

  • rant about current status
  • historical overview
  • new ideas from me

What do the terms “politically left” and “politically right” even mean? To many, they’re a way of group-think; To give a name to people who see the world differently than oneself and to create a target of hate and opposition.

Politicians have tried to turn these terms into an “empty signified” (link), i.e. a word without inherent meaning. Such "empty signified"s are ways of talking without actually saying anything. Politicians and also managers of companies like to use it all the time, because these speeches often look good to a passer-by without having to come up with an actual policy decision or meaningful arguments. They avoid headaches for the listeners and are at the same time something that people can get behind emotionally, i.e. to many people, identifying as “politically left” is an emotionally important term, even in the absence of any meaningful definition.

In many cases, “politically left” is defined as “anybody who opposes the political right” and the political right, in turn, is defined as “anybody who wants to kill people based on their color of skin”. According to my own field research, people who fit this definition of “politically right” are about as rare as six-legged unicorns on a rainy day in the desert. In other words, they practically don’t exist, and even when they do, they’re engineered examples that are artificially constructed to make attractive newspaper headlines to keep the people at each other’s throats.


In this article, i want to forget everything about these stupid definitions and come up with new, natural, meaningful definitions.

I will first clarify the historical origins of the term “right” and later “left”.

The term “(politically) right” seems to go back to the Romans who already had the word “dextera” to refer both to the right hand of the body and also to a “just, righteous” way of life. (Link)

It is noteworthy that the often-heard explanation that these terms go back to the french revolution is just false. According to that myth, it was about who sat on the left-hand or right-hand side of the president of the assembly hall. Surely these terms were used there, but they were not the origin, merely their modern re-interpretation. The terms themselves are much much older than that.

The term “(politically) left” goes back to Latin as well, as the word “sinister” could refer to both the left hand of the body but also to a wicked, sinful character. (Link)


Now, what might a meaningful, natural interpretation of these words mean?

Let’s use biology to start from something natural:

schematic drawing of organs in the human body (safe for work)

As you can see, the liver is on the right-hand side (of the human; you look at that human from the front so everything’s mirrored). The liver is one of the hardest-working metabolic organs of the body, which means it does a lot of processes and transformations to convert input substances into output substances.

I think it is meaningful to compare that to labor in human society. Notice the similarity of words. This is evident when you speak the two words “liver” and “labor” out aloud often enough; It’s even more evident in german where the liver is called “Leber”.

While labor transforms some input products into output products in some capitalist factory, the liver does the same in the human body. So there is a natural analogy there.

I propose to define the political “right” as a group or movement that dictates that people should work, in other words that we should be a work-based society. Typical proponents of that group are capitalist stakeholders who want to see their stock valuations go up; As companies are typically listed higher when they produce more output, a company will have a natural incentive to make the people in it work harder. That could mean doing more work per hour or working longer hours.

On the other hand, i propose to define the political “left” as work-less, in other terms, as people who think that our lifes shouldn’t be dictated by constant laboring, and that we should be able to live even when we’re not being productive elements of society. In other words, people who think that it’s not the point of living to be constantly hustling, but who enjoy their leisure, their time off. And who think that working hours should be reduced, and that work should be paced at a more relaxed, comfortable rhythm.

  • freagle@lemmy.ml
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    Wow. Just wow. I am dumber for having read this. We are all dumber for having read this. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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        Where do I even begin? Sinister literally ONLY meant left (the direction) in Latin. It didn’t mean “wicked or sinful character”. It was used idiomatically to describe misfortune due to their divining tradition where things that fell on the right were good omens and things that fell on the left were bad omens. It took nearly 2000 years for it go from meaning directionally left to mean unlucky to meaning sinister and wicked.

        Then, there is literally NO word linkage between liver and labor. None. At all. Just because they have similar sounds means absolutely nothing. Gay and Guy sound equally similar. Loop and lop sound equally similar. Motion and Ocean sound equally similar. None of these words are related. At all.

        While labor transforms some input products into output products in some capitalist factory, the liver does the same in the human body. So there is a natural analogy there.

        Yeah, so labor transforms inputs into outputs regardless of system of government. Primitive society? Labor transformed inputs into outputs. Slave society? Yup. Feudalism with a kings and aristocrats and peasants? Yup. Capitalism? Yup. Socialism? Yup.

        Left and Right, as political terms ABSOLUTELY have their idiomatic root in pre-revolutionary France. That’s just the facts. That what it means. It’s inherently confusing because we’re using an idiomatic expression that worked in a specific period of time. If we want to illuminate the words, we shouldn’t be comparing how they sound in German and English, we should be analyzing history and it’s presence in the present.

        The history is that the EXISTING power structure inhabited the right side of the hall and the EMERGING power structure inhabited the left side of the hall. That’s the SIMPLEST way to understand this. The hall was not inhabited by all possible political theories and permutations. It was inhabited by real people, in a real place, governed by a real power structure, and motivated by real movements.

        Therefore, Left and Right are relative terms, not absolute terms. They will never be absolute terms with a philosophical commonality. They are contentless signifiers that refer only to a particular social context. The Left in 1700s France is the Right in 2020s America. The Left in 2020s Asia didn’t even exist in 1700s France, they hadn’t even begun formulating a coherent philosophy by then. And most importantly, the right in 1700s France doesn’t even exist in America. Interestingly the group that inhabited the right in 1700s France does still exist in many countries in Europe, but they are so marginalized that it’s inaccurate to define them as the right. These are the Conservatives, who believe in the Divine Right of Kings and wish to restore the monarchy to its fullest and to govern with an aristocratic class determined by the monarchy. These people exist, but there’s so few of them that they don’t take up an entire wing of an assembly hall. The philosophy remains, but the movement is powerless. Instead, the left of 1700s, the Liberals, ousted the Conservatives and over a couple centuries they took up the space that the Conservatives took up. In their place, a new Left emerged, the liberation movement of the Communists.

        The Left is the emerging power structure, today that is Communism. The right is the existing power structure, today that is Liberalism.

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          Ok well i see your point of using the words depending on the context that they were first put to widespread use in.

          The thing is that this does not align with how my brain operates. I have autism and reject every rule that is arbitrary and does not follow logically from simple assumptions. This applies to language rules as well. I am anarchistic enough to make my own rules, about the things that affect me in everyday life. And language is a big one of those. And i am definitely autistic enough to adhere to my own set of logic, that is structured and focused thought, that steps forward from simple assumptions onward until a conclusion is reached. Am i am doing this in this article. I am sorry if that collides with your worldview. I do not intend to step back.

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            There is literally nothing logical nor structured about smearing meaning from cross-linguistic soundalikes. It’s fully arbitrary.

            And language is a consensus reality. It can only be used to exchange meaning with others who consent to agree with the linguistic representations you use. That could be your current self and your future self in this case. But without consensus from others, your use of language will be ineffective, or worse, actively disorienting.

            English is already anarchic, as there is no official language board that governs it (unlike German, for example). Anarchism relies on consensus for collaboration, and there are few things more collaborative than language.

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              And language is a consensus reality.

              funnily enough, that’s exactly the point i’m making.

              further up in your previous comment you said that “Left and Right, as political terms ABSOLUTELY have their idiomatic root in pre-revolutionary France. That’s just the facts. That what it means.”. And what i’m arguing is that that doesn’t matter what the facts are about the words as long as we can agree to use words in a specific way today. And what shapes language? People coming together and recognizing the beauty of using and implicitely defining words in a specific way. and that’s precisely what i’m doing in this article. The headline is literally “towards a NEW definition (that i’m proposing here…)*” which means’ i’m shaping language and setting examples for our common evolution of language. That’s exactly what i’m doing.

              The short historical interjection was just a fun fact, it’s not even the main point of the article. The main point is the beauty in defining words in a new way in a specific way which is derived from natural concepts which many can relate to.

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      that’s not an argument. if you have something to actually criticize, formulate it.

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    so, right-wing means a work-based society, while left-wing means a work-less society because the liver is on the right side of the body (and the liver is “the hardest-working metabolic organ”)?

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      yes. philosophy based on the layout of the human body is much more influential throughout human history than you’re probably aware of. there’s tons of similar arguments on other topics, and all of them are important. For example Europa Regina:

      It’s not absurd to think that the concepts of “right” and “left” stem from the layout of the human body as well; where else would they come from?

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    Nuh-uh.

    The right is called that since it’s the direction the colon is going before excrement takes the final turn out.

    The left is called that since the aorta that feeds the heart is on the left.

    Or this is all incredibly stupid.

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    Ok, what I just read send to be a modest attempt to create understanding by somebody who doesn’t understand. And honestly, that’s… Well, not ideal, but understandable. Everyone wants to understand things, and it’s normal to come to with explanations that make sense.

    Certainly our society does an absolute shit job of teaching these concepts, and arguably they don’t teach them at all.

    Personally, I’ve done a lot of reading to better understand the question “what do left and right mean in context of political orientation” and I’m going to share what I put together. It’s possible somebody will come along and correct me.

    The Left/Right difference is regarding whether there’s a belief that society has a natural order it adheres to (Right), or if society can choose how it organizes itself (Left).

    On the Right you get disagreements about what the natural order is, but they all agree that there is a natural order and generally that if you try to go against the natural order then society wide disaster will result.

    On the Left you get disagreements about what order society should choose to organize itself into, but they all agree that there’s a choice to be made and generally that if you’re not careful there are people who will exploit society to the detriment of everyone.

    This distinction traces its origins to the French revolution when royalists (Right, believe the natural order includes God putting the king in charge) were confronted by the revolutionaries (Left, believe that society can choose a different way to order itself than letting God put somebody in charge).

    It has nothing to do with work, at least not directly. Coincidentally, most Rightists believe that the natural order includes needing to work, and Leftists coincidentally believe that letting a person die due to not working is bad. But that’s more to do with personal morals than Left/Right. It’s totally possible to have a leftist say that a person who doesn’t work deserves to die, because that’s not what defines the person as a leftist; their believe about whether society can choose how it orders itself is what makes them a leftist.

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      The Left/Right difference is regarding whether there’s a belief that society has a natural order it adheres to (Right), or if society can choose how it organizes itself (Left).

      That’s actually a good definition. “Natural order” refers to natural law btw, a concept i am well aware of. The german writings regarding this (Naturrecht) are even more powerful. They hint very directly at the conservative worldview.

      In other words, your definition is about whether power comes from above/outside (god) or below/inside (people).

      Coincidentally, right-wingers (by your definition) who claim that power comes from above will always somehow conclude that as a consequence, we must perform work. It makes sense if you think about it this way: Superiors always want you to work harder. Only when that would damage your health (they want their future workforce healthy) can exceptions be made. So as a consequence, right-wingers (by your definition) are also always right-wingers (by my definition). So the definitions come surprisingly close.

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    O. M. G…

    lmao…

    Hoomin…

    I’m sticking with the normal definitions, OK?

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    I upvoted this ( towards zero ) because I find it funny that so much work could be invested in solving the wrong problem.