This won’t end with wage increases
This will end in investment in metal detectors and pay downs and shit like that to ensure employees won’t be able to come in with lighters anymore
And their crackdowns will piss people off even more.
Do it enough times and it will end with change.
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First we had Luigi.
Now we have Warehouse Luigi, a Waluigi, if you will.
Whole new meaning to NSFW. Never Safe From Waluigi!
Now Set Fire, Waaahh!
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New union tactic: start openly organizing, and threaten to burn the building down if they try to union bust
Unfortunately both them (and us) forgot that this is the kind of thing their new deal tried to prevent. We didn’t get 8 hour days and 5 day weeks because we asked nicely and they felt generous. We got it because workers back then burnt down shit and the bosses were at a reasonable fear they were gonna get got.
We need to put the fear back into the rich again if we need to see real change.
That’s not a new union tactic, that’s an old school union tactic. Organisation and unions started with riots and breaking shit.
Really heartwarming to see us go back to our roots. I honestly thought the system had managed to breed it out of us.
Wait, that’s just the old tactics
The state wanted to remove the rules. They didn’t know the rules were there to keep them safe from us.
Once we are done we can go to the executives’ homes too.
We only need food, water, toilet paper, and medicine. Everything else is a scam, and can go away.
Who would win?
One disgruntled boi with a lighter
or
A billion dollar company
Where’s my stapler?
One? There are millions of us for every single one of them.
I… uh… unfortunately, I’m gonna go with the billion dollar company.
Insurance will cover most of the damage, the dude will end up in prison, and at most the worst that the company will suffer is higher premiums.
The higher premiums will cost the company almost as much as the arson. Insurance just spreads out financial risk over time; it’s still a net loss for the insured.
I am hoping insurance will do all it can to deny and even then charge more moving forward.
Alternatively, the company heads will get scared knowing their house is flammable too.
Personally I’d never want to burn down someone’s house. If I found out afterwards they had a pet, I’d have something to feel bad about.
I have seen this repeatedly, and while I understand that it would be sad, what is more valuable: 1-3 pets, or all the humans that will have their lives destroyed by the fuck you set fire to?
Did you forget why we were here? Liberation isn’t free. Dead animals are very sad. I get it. A dead ecosystem includes many dead animals. Like, MANY.
Trolley problem
This is a concept that a lot of people struggle with. They lose sight of the bigger picture and simply react to what’s right in front of them.
This is why having class consciousness is important. It puts everything into perspective.
Kidnap their pet first and then you get a free companion alongside destroying the rulers
The message is just as important.
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Never noticed the dead plant before 😚👌
As much as I support the dude’s sentiments, I gotta go with the billion dollar company winning on this one. He’s not getting paid, likely facing prison time, fines, and legal fees, and the billion dollar company files an insurance claim.
As a singular instance, sure. But if people become inspired to organize to continue these actions across multiple industries, then we begin to destabilize the system.
He struck a blow, and showed people it is possible to fight back. That’s a win in my book, regardless of the price he had to pay to achieve it.
I wonder if these kind of things become common enough would insurance companies start charging business higher premiums based on average employees wages because a poor employee is more liable to snap and burn the place down.
They can call it the “asshole tax”.
This is how you fight the ruling class without guns though.
I mean they can put him in prison, but maybe there are hundreds who’ll take his place…
Yeah, that’s how it’s set up.
He did not receive a piece of cake.
I’m glad nobody was hurt, he waited until after midnight to set it. But maybe someone needs to call the fire marshals on the Kimberly Clark warehouses. I can hear a fire alarm at the end, and I’m no fire safety engineer, but it doesn’t look like there are signs of sprinklers or other fire suppression systems?
Don’t have the full article but there was fire suppression. Then the fire team showed up, evacuated the building, and, at the behest of the company, shut off the system to prevent further damage to the rest of the products as the fire team was handling the original fire.
Then the dude went around and started burning other pallets in different parts of the warehouse.
Waluigi here had a plan and executed it.
Should have paid them enough to live.
Oh, that’s very interesting. If that’s true, someone should tell Kimberly-Clark’s insurers that they deliberately shut off fire suppression during a fire. Maybe this will actually cost them a few dollars?
It’s standard practice to shut down a fire suppression system after the fire is extinguished: the water will cause more damage than the fire did if you don’t. The owner is responsible for having someone on “fire watch” until the activated sprinkler heads are replaced and the system is put back into service – which needs to be done by someone qualified to do so.
It sounds like they did everything “right” in that regard, they just didn’t realize the guy starting fires was still there.
Can a fire really be considered watched if they don’t fully confirm there aren’t other fires? I get that it was a big place to watch and he was deliberately trying to destroy as much as he could, but it blows my mind a little that he succeeded that hard at executing his plan if they were doing things correctly… he annihilated a 1.2 million square feet warehouse with a single Zippo.
Where I am, if the building alarms go off and the second-tier of our automated systems calls fire services, the fire service (not just the company’s wardens) will walk through the entire complex to confirm there are no fires left. Even if it’s a false alarm, even if it’s the third false alarm that day (which is how we discovered one our very sensitive alarms had an electrical fault one time…). Even if you shut off the water, if there are remaining fires, our smoke / heat / IR detectors will reactivate the alarm systems.
Either way, even if KC is somehow not at fault, their premiums surely will go up and by much more than they would have spent paying their subcontractors properly. And insurers try to avoid paying, so it will hopefully be costly just for the legal and admin side.
lol I didn’t even think of this, hilarious
Funny enough even in fox news apparently people are calling it a fire insurance scam.
I wasn’t familiar with this, assuming it’s the same incident
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/arson-suspect-california-warehouse-fire-193118944.html
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No, I don’t think I will
[someone] was charged by federal authorities with arson of a building used in interstate and foreign commerce
So because they sell wares in other states, it’s a felony? Not sure I agree with that.
I expect it’s a felony because it’s arson. It’s federal because they sell wares in other states.
The initial estimate found the paper product inside the warehouse being worth $500 million the building itself being worth $150 million
Damn. Thoughts and prayers. Though it does suck for the people who lost jobs over this.
Nobody lost a job that was paying enough to live there. They should open a co-op in the ashes… Of course it’ll still be profitable enough for the company to rebuild and refill the warehouse.
It was still a job for those people. If they aren’t being paid enough, sudden unemployment would be pretty scary. I’m not passing judgement on the act, just recognizing the situation that this has put those workers in.
Company should have paid enough to live.
Yes, and now the decision of one man has put several others out of work. Consequences.
You’re right. Everyone should just get back to work and be happy with the exploitation. Thank you for bravely speaking up here.
Ok there buddy.
The decision of a company to not pay a living wage has forced a man’s hand to fight back against his own oppression. Unfortunately others have been caught in the crossfire.
Let’s place the blame where it belongs.
Two comments up, I said that I was not taking a position on the act. But to suggest he was forced to burn down that building is edgelord at best.
Oh, there’s always an excuse in defense of our overlords. Let me make this clear:
I would prefer the world reduced to ashes, over being ruled by them.
Cool beans.
Oh nice, I thought this was in Ontario. Some difference though.
*It was in a town called Ontario, in California… D:
It says it’s 40 miles away from ontario
No, it says
Thick smoke billows from the roof of the Kimberly-Clark paper products facility Tuesday in Ontario … 40 miles east of Los Angeles
While we were distracted with Iran, Washington and Oregon joined Canada and allowed their army to begin annexing into SoCal. Western Washington/Oregon was cool with it for social reasons; Eastern was cool with it for gas prices.
Showed a comrade this: "Why did he document himself‽”
Eh. Really, if you do something this big, your chances of not getting caught are virtually zero. Might as well spread your message yourself so the media can’t later twist it and say you were just mad at your boss or something.
Do you care to actually contribute something, or just engage in bullying?
contribute something
I’ll take that as a yes. Here. LMK if you need more anonymizing pointers.
Damn bro wasn’t fucking around
hell yeah
Anyone got some more context for this please? (Apart from the obvious)
I am very curious about the circumstances leading up to this
And I’m very curious how long his court case will take.
I am very curious about the circumstances leading up to this
Simple, they didn’t pay them enough to live
I do believe that
One might call it a burning rage at the injustice of the system.
The only way this fella is getting out of jail is in a bodybag :/
Is love to sit in on an interview for his next job.
