Maybe it should just say “this means your intelligence is below average”. I genuinely think someone with <80 IQ would have a very low chance of understanding the text as presented in the screenshot.
Stupid people are people with human rights too, and they should be considered with empathy when building a society. That should be particularly obvious to a site that performs IQ tests. For every person with an IQ above 100, there’s a person below.
The thing is, people with low IQ and stupid people are two different groups. My IQ was once tested over 140, and I have done, and still sometimes do, some pretty stupid stuff. I can also be quite dense.
Just took a test out of curiosity, but the result screen is much different.
Disclaimer: Don’t take too much of the score for granted, the test isn’t that comprehensive, and just by knowing basic math and intermediate logic you may reach a similar score.
A “real” IQ test also scores you on different types of skills, or at least the one I was given to take did. I ended up above average on things such as math and logic skills while scoring below average on language skills, which, knowing me sounds about right.
I have always wondered why language skills are in an IQ test. If someone speaks 1 language he’ll be better off than someone speaking 3 as the test is only in one language?
I humbly request that you see one of my other comments in this thread and reconsider the use of the “R” word. I won’t repeat it here so I don’t “spam up” the thread.
I agree with your stance on the other comment (really appreciate you taking the time to write the post), however since this one in particular is a direct quote from a movie I think its grey enough to let slide.
What’s up with the word making a comeback tho? Rise of fascism in general and all the sludge it raises?
Maybe people are just realizing that magic words don’t actually exist. There are infinite ways to be an asshole in the world without ever uttering a forbidden phrase.
I censor when I quote from Blazing Saddles, but I’m not attempting to say you’re making an incorrect decision - we all decide what we’re okay with, and… dammit, I can’t write this to sufficiently indicate I’m not judging (while disagreeing mildly), but I’m not. lol.
fascism
That’s my theory. The bigots have come back out of their closet and are taking pride and joy in being bigots. “I can say what I like and you little snowflakes can deal with it!” (until we say something they find offensive)
I suppose it’s the least of our worries considering all the other harm that’s been done and is being done, but it[1] certainly contributes.
I went on a semi-rant about IQ in another top level post, but now it’s time to go on a rant about the R word.
I’ve worked with adults with developmental and cognitive disabilities. I was a supported living coach for a while, and also volunteered some at an adult day training school where my wife taught.
The school in particular taught daily living skills, but also art. The students were encouraged to paint, sing, write. They had a theatre program - which is where I mostly volunteered, running sound for some shows and helping backstage at others.
Before I started working with them, I was a bit intimidated and scared by them. I personally have a high IQ[1], so the concept of people living with a low IQ kinda scared me a little. What do they live for? How do they live? How do they survive with, like, limited thoughts or whatever? I had no clue.
Then I got to meet the community at the day school and I quickly realized… they’re human, like you and me. Of course they are. But I didn’t know. I learned that they have needs and wants, like all humans; friendships and gossip and enjoying some days and not enjoying other days. You know, seriously, like the rest of us.
One of the classes my wife taught was theatre, and she taught her class Shakespeare (among other things). When I say that her students understood Shakespeare, I mean they could explain what happened in the plays they covered. What I began to realize was that the main problem these folks faced was that they learned more slowly. Not that they couldn’t learn.
Also, as an aside: While it was mostly amazing getting to hang out and work with these folks that tended to be much happier than other groups of people I’ve dealt with, that is also a negative stereotype, expressed specifically in the stereotype that many people with Down’s syndrome are always happy. Well, like many steretypes, there is some truth there, but everybody has shitty days, and not only that, but everyone has their own personality. Just because you see happy people with Down’s in media… it ain’t all like that. But overall, there is some truth there.
But the main point of my post, after hopefully helping to humanize them to you and anyone reading, is to end with this: They know the “R” word. They hear it. They hear it used against and about them. And even when it’s not, they know the word and that they are its origin. When that word is used, you’re not just calling something “stupid”, you are referencing a whole group of people that absolutely do not deserve it.
As a final note, to anyone who wants to argue about how language changes and how words get retired and if we retire this word another will come along: First of all, I don’t believe you in this case. In the past 10-15 years, the word has fallen off in use, and the words that replaced it weren’t offensive in the same way. But I’ve had to start speaking out about it again because it’s starting to come back in the past 2-3 years or so, and I’d rather see it permanently quashed. Also, even if another word did come along that was offensive, THAT DOESN’T EXCUSE USING THIS WORD RIGHT NOW WHICH IS OFFENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
I’m not telling anyone what to do. You and everyone have the right to use the language you wish to. I and others have the right to judge people for the language they use, though. So I hope you and others that use the word will consider removing it from your vocabulary.
I did. Took me a while, but it was worth it.
I’m no saint. I lose my temper and rant against those I feel are supporting fascism, for example, far more than I should. So I’m not trying to say I’m better than anyone. I’m just humbly requesting that people who use that word reconsider doing so, as it makes the world a slightly better place. <3
Which is worth extremely little, q.v. my other rant in this thread ↩︎
What you think the site should be like “Congratulations, you’re a retard”
Maybe it should just say “this means your intelligence is below average”. I genuinely think someone with <80 IQ would have a very low chance of understanding the text as presented in the screenshot.
Stupid people are people with human rights too, and they should be considered with empathy when building a society. That should be particularly obvious to a site that performs IQ tests. For every person with an IQ above 100, there’s a person below.
The thing is, people with low IQ and stupid people are two different groups. My IQ was once tested over 140, and I have done, and still sometimes do, some pretty stupid stuff. I can also be quite dense.
It measures you information processing capacity - not wisdom. High IQ people quite famously aren’t always the nicest ones to be around.
Just took a test out of curiosity, but the result screen is much different.
Disclaimer: Don’t take too much of the score for granted, the test isn’t that comprehensive, and just by knowing basic math and intermediate logic you may reach a similar score.
Did you really pay them? I just did the test and now it’s asking for 2€
I’m wondering the same.
If you pay the 2€, remember to unsubsribe from the monthly subsciption that those sneaky bastards sign you up for.
A “real” IQ test also scores you on different types of skills, or at least the one I was given to take did. I ended up above average on things such as math and logic skills while scoring below average on language skills, which, knowing me sounds about right.
I have always wondered why language skills are in an IQ test. If someone speaks 1 language he’ll be better off than someone speaking 3 as the test is only in one language?
Yeah, there was nothing about language in it, but I took it anyway just for the sake of it.
Wish I could take an official one, purely out of curiosity.
👏
The webpage can shoot fireworks and confetti to help deliver the news.
Never go full retard.
I humbly request that you see one of my other comments in this thread and reconsider the use of the “R” word. I won’t repeat it here so I don’t “spam up” the thread.
I agree with your stance on the other comment (really appreciate you taking the time to write the post), however since this one in particular is a direct quote from a movie I think its grey enough to let slide.
What’s up with the word making a comeback tho? Rise of fascism in general and all the sludge it raises?
Maybe people are just realizing that magic words don’t actually exist. There are infinite ways to be an asshole in the world without ever uttering a forbidden phrase.
The word is making a comeback because people are fucking retarded.
K.
I censor when I quote from Blazing Saddles, but I’m not attempting to say you’re making an incorrect decision - we all decide what we’re okay with, and… dammit, I can’t write this to sufficiently indicate I’m not judging (while disagreeing mildly), but I’m not. lol.
That’s my theory. The bigots have come back out of their closet and are taking pride and joy in being bigots. “I can say what I like and you little snowflakes can deal with it!” (until we say something they find offensive)
I suppose it’s the least of our worries considering all the other harm that’s been done and is being done, but it[1] certainly contributes.
The racism/bigotry in general ↩︎
Sorry
No apology required - at least not to me. But thank you <3
Please, can we move away from the “R” word.
I went on a semi-rant about IQ in another top level post, but now it’s time to go on a rant about the R word.
I’ve worked with adults with developmental and cognitive disabilities. I was a supported living coach for a while, and also volunteered some at an adult day training school where my wife taught.
The school in particular taught daily living skills, but also art. The students were encouraged to paint, sing, write. They had a theatre program - which is where I mostly volunteered, running sound for some shows and helping backstage at others.
Before I started working with them, I was a bit intimidated and scared by them. I personally have a high IQ[1], so the concept of people living with a low IQ kinda scared me a little. What do they live for? How do they live? How do they survive with, like, limited thoughts or whatever? I had no clue.
Then I got to meet the community at the day school and I quickly realized… they’re human, like you and me. Of course they are. But I didn’t know. I learned that they have needs and wants, like all humans; friendships and gossip and enjoying some days and not enjoying other days. You know, seriously, like the rest of us.
One of the classes my wife taught was theatre, and she taught her class Shakespeare (among other things). When I say that her students understood Shakespeare, I mean they could explain what happened in the plays they covered. What I began to realize was that the main problem these folks faced was that they learned more slowly. Not that they couldn’t learn.
Also, as an aside: While it was mostly amazing getting to hang out and work with these folks that tended to be much happier than other groups of people I’ve dealt with, that is also a negative stereotype, expressed specifically in the stereotype that many people with Down’s syndrome are always happy. Well, like many steretypes, there is some truth there, but everybody has shitty days, and not only that, but everyone has their own personality. Just because you see happy people with Down’s in media… it ain’t all like that. But overall, there is some truth there.
But the main point of my post, after hopefully helping to humanize them to you and anyone reading, is to end with this: They know the “R” word. They hear it. They hear it used against and about them. And even when it’s not, they know the word and that they are its origin. When that word is used, you’re not just calling something “stupid”, you are referencing a whole group of people that absolutely do not deserve it.
As a final note, to anyone who wants to argue about how language changes and how words get retired and if we retire this word another will come along: First of all, I don’t believe you in this case. In the past 10-15 years, the word has fallen off in use, and the words that replaced it weren’t offensive in the same way. But I’ve had to start speaking out about it again because it’s starting to come back in the past 2-3 years or so, and I’d rather see it permanently quashed. Also, even if another word did come along that was offensive, THAT DOESN’T EXCUSE USING THIS WORD RIGHT NOW WHICH IS OFFENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
I’m not telling anyone what to do. You and everyone have the right to use the language you wish to. I and others have the right to judge people for the language they use, though. So I hope you and others that use the word will consider removing it from your vocabulary.
I did. Took me a while, but it was worth it.
I’m no saint. I lose my temper and rant against those I feel are supporting fascism, for example, far more than I should. So I’m not trying to say I’m better than anyone. I’m just humbly requesting that people who use that word reconsider doing so, as it makes the world a slightly better place. <3
Which is worth extremely little, q.v. my other rant in this thread ↩︎
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just play a snippet of that “what’s 9+10?” vine
“ya stupid”