

At that point you don’t do a protest, those are revolution numbers. Storm the government offices (who’s gonna stop you? The police and army are on your side apparently) and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat.


At that point you don’t do a protest, those are revolution numbers. Storm the government offices (who’s gonna stop you? The police and army are on your side apparently) and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat.


To put nunbers into context
If a barrel of oil is taken as about 6 gigajoules, then this project is estimated to produce about 2800 barrels of oil a day of energy.
As I on worldometer, China consumes about 16.4 million barrels of oil a day.


I too can be a superpower if USA pays me enough money 0_0


Point 1
The mRNA vaccines for COVID-19, which have now been administered several billion times, have been heavily scrutinized for safety and have been shown to be extremely safe, said Joseph Wu, MD, PhD, the director of the Stanford Cardiovascular Institute.
Vaccine-associated myocarditis occurs in about one in every 140,000 vaccinees after a first dose and rises to one in 32,000 after a second dose. For reasons that aren’t clear, incidence peaks among male vaccinees age 30 or below, at one in 16,750 vaccinees.
Direct quote from your source. All it says is that in some people it can cause a little heart tissue damage.
Point 2:
If you wish to abolish the prison system then I am OK with that. If you ain’t wishing to do that I’m not even sure what your position is and I doubt it would be coherent in any way.
Point 3:
Blud … you brought up “red and blue”


How many people died from the vaccine after being coerced into taking it?
None. Since when the fuck do mRNA vaccines kill people? Hell even older vaccines have negligible mortality.
You can’t force people to do anything. You can’t tell them what to do and expect them to listen.
You can. What do you think the legal system is?
Real deaths creating permanent divide between the red and blue.
Red and blue? Brother, I’m not American nor have I ever even been to America. I don’t subscribe to either side of your political aile.


Ya covid was barely worse than regular flu viruses when you compare the death ratios.
It is hard to avoid the temptation of insulting you for this abysmally dogshit take.
Idk how privliged you are. I’ve had multiple family members die to covid. Worldwide, the number of deaths confirmed from covid was over 5 million, but estimated excess mortality was in the 25 million range.

You get all pissy about “10 million aborted fetuses” (as if fetuses have a conscious life for me to care", but 25 million actual dead is nothing for you. On brand for a capitalist!


centralized non profit corporations.
I misread! This should be the state, not NGOs!


China is not communist. But we should talk about different economic systems because that’s the ultimate goal.
Communism in itself is a true ideal as long as output exceeds intake and satisfaction is high. It’s also possible on a global scale, if not designed for it.
Capitalism is also a true ideal as long as it’s built on an immovable foundation of human rights paid for by centralized non profit corporations.
This is accurate enough and largely in line with modern communist theory although lacking in detail (why did you get my hopes up to dash them?)
The issue is and always has been the concentration of power.
No it’s not, unless you are talking about literal electrical/mechanical power (engineers of the world, unite!).
Sociological power is a poorly defined concept with a nebulous effect on society.
Economic power, while more defined isn’t a cause but an effect of the organisation of production (and thus, whether a society is feudal, capitalist, socialist or communist).
And totally tyrannical in their wielding of power against free thought, sex, religion, etc. It’s practically anti freedom and contradicts every protected class we have in the US.
Not at all lmao. LGBTQ rights are about the only ones the Chinese are a bit lagging on. The rest are fine.
And before you come at me about freedom of speech, that is nothing more than the freedom for the rich to buy the public opinion. You don’t want to live in such a society, cause then you get Elon buying twitter and Trump buying the US.
Even if you’re pro choice, the piles of discarded fetuses could reach skyscraper height. This is not a normal issue to have.
Bruh … what the fuck are you talking about?
Also pro-tip, you can just Google the stats. Here it is. China is number 66.
If the question is what system would you be willing to put your life in the hands of, there is only one answer:
Selfish answer: the one that gives me tons of money and protection (imagine a dictatorship of the transfemmes)
Non-selfish answer: a dictatorship of the proletariat cause I’m a proletariat and so are most people


No it boils down to “we kicked the Japanese fascists out and have a pretty decent standard of living now compared to the rest of the world”


Not OP, but you can easily find statistics on public transportation, wages, healthcare/life expectancy, government approval, ecological policies, technological development, energy use and so on.
Collecting these statistics takes too much time for a single comment, but you can find statistics from a wide variety of sources such as the world bank, imf, rand (western sources), or Chinese sources like Chinese government data (like from the national burea of statistics).
Either way, the data is quite favorable for China and Chinese citizen’s quality of life. They have a higher life expectancy than Americans, world class public transport, the world’s best green energy industrial complex (by such a huge margin that in comparison, the rest of the world might as well not try). It is quite a decent place to live in, baring the issues with low wages, youth unemployment and high working hours (compared to western nations, as least until the fascists de-develop the west enough).


unless they are rival imperialists in which case the “bone to grind” is with imperialism.
This is where the issue comes down to because many western leftists pretend, based on their own misunderstandings that many western rivals are imperialists, despite the fact that many of these western rivals have a net export of surplus labor/commodities, being exploited by international capital, therby having a class interest opposite of imperialism.
Not to mention the military encirclement that these nations face, which their enemy nationalists take as some sort of natural God-given equilibrium. Deviating from this encirclement by forceful measures is then taken as a sign of evil/imperialist ambition, meanwhile leftists at home in the west fail to resolve military encirclement by pressuring their governments. I mean, for how many decades has Cuba been under a blockade? What horrific conditions gaza has been subjected to. Can any of these situations be resolved without force? And if these people use force, they get called imperialists.
In the interests of fairness, the PRC during Mao and Deng’s time also famously considered the USSR to be “social imperialists”, helping cause the downfall of the USSR and setting back socialism by a century. So this isn’t exclusively a western leftist problem.
“Our glorious people’s Ministry of Truth has determined that their wretched Mistry of Truth is lying while assuring us that OUR Ministry of Truth would never lie”
My sibling in christ, do not insult my intelligence. The gaza genocide isn’t even over. At least wait for the bodies to become cold before you start defending western media institutions.
I don’t know what you’re trying to do here, encouraging racism instead of criticism of the state?
It is a common deflection that I have seen. Furthermore, it is quite stupid as well, since governments don’t fall from the heavens. They are made from the people. Modern states are not small warlord bands, but significant fractions of the entire populace and economy.


None, if you’re a principled anarchist. That’s why I don’t have a fundamental problem with anarchists (other than my philosophical objections to anarchism)
However, many self-proclaimed anarchists do in practice support imperialists because they have a big bone to grind with AES states or even anyone who positions themselves against western imperialism.
They internalise western propaganda against these states/nations, because I guess, it’s a state so therefore it must be as comically evil as the worst fearmongering described by anglophone media. Or my favorite, “even only 10% of the atrocities were real, they would still be super evil”, that kind of thinking.
Of course, I have some contact both with actual chinese or russian people (many of whom aren’t even socialists), and they clearly have a much deeper and nuanced understanding of their nations than the even the most “I hate the government not the people” type of western anarchists. It makes the anarchists come off as silly white supremacists.
Most likely, if my contact with anarchists had begun with third world anarchists, I would never have had a phase of hating anarchists (which itself was a silly thing to do). But either way, I still find Marx more compelling than any anarchist writer, so I am still philosophically a Marxist.


I read marx/lenin, found them to be compelling.
I am very interested in the science of economic planning and ecosystem management.
Originally, I considered myself to be an anarchist, but other anarchists had a very strong tendency of supporting imperialists in their actions against non-western countries, and frankly, I’m not white enough to be tempted by the benefits I would not be gaining from installing rightist dictatorships in Venezuela or China or Cuba if the “anarcho-bidenist” types had their way.
Looking back at it I find the whole “fight” between anarchism and marxism-leninism to be very silly, but since I think that China and Hamas are actually doing useful work, this automatically makes me incompatible with many anarchists.


I know it’s popular in the west these days to attribute anything that goes wrong in their countries as being Russia’s fault, but this level of paranoia is genuinely absurd and funny. Like seriously, Putin is personally ordering Russian spies to … do arson attacks on random IKEA stores?
Although attribution is often difficult, and some incidents will have nothing to do with Russia
One would think that the statement that follows this would be something like “on occasion, conclusive evidence has been found of Russian spies committing petty acts of vandalisim”, or something like that. But no, there isn’t even a pretense of there being any sort of evidence in this article. It just says “it is clear”, and vaguely references a UK intelligence officer (what a trustworthy source!)
Unlike the USSR, Putin’s Russia is essentially post-ideological.
Meaningless statement (post-ideology does not exist), and also demonstrably false given that Putin very openly adopts a Christian and a nationalist position/policy.
hard-left anticapitalism
Ah, so it’s that thing where the self-proclaimed “moderates” pretend that everyone who opposes them and their socio-economic agenda is secretly a Russian agent. Got it.
such as the placing of cameras along Polish railway lines on which aid to Ukraine flows.
Mixing incidents of what are likely legitimate spying with random petty crime does not mean that the random petty crime was also some Russian plot.
It also contributes to another Kremlin (and, indeed, Chinese) talking point, that removed western democracies simply don’t work.
The poverty and dysfunction of western societies is not the fault of the scary foreign boogeymen.
This also highlights another virtue of this new strategy for the Kremlin: it encourages and mobilises our own paranoia.
Lmao the article itself is fueling this paranoia.
The answer was — and is — not to let that panic us or force a change in policy: to keep calm and carry on.
This is something Europeans are failing spectacularly at.


This would not be a problem if they could fix the economy. Fundamentally speaking, people who oppose immigration either do it out of economic anxiety or racism. The first can be solved by regular socialist policies, while the latter are an irrational bunch of reactionaries that will continue to oppose the left no matter what.


At the end of the day, the electoral system is a contest of strength between 2 or more cults of personality. This is more prevalent in some countries than other, but the very basic aspect of representative “democracy”, aka elections (selecting a person to rule) basically boils down to giving a few people the power to make decisions for everybody else. It’s dictatorial by nature.
Anti-China propaganda has gotten real lazy these days. This is what the Americans are getting for 1.6 billion dollars?


Fair enough. I didn’t follow him closely in the early days so I didn’t know exactly the details.


Was it ever on to begin with?
I only feel such kinds of disappointment when like an actual marxist or anarchist person/party has dumbass takes.
If you are expecting liberals to have takes that are not lib, then your expectations are just out of order.
Term limits are anti-democratic as you are removing popular choices from government.
Imagine a politician who is competent and serves the public, the public keeps re-electing them, so you … block them from serving again? To replace them with an untested politician?
Term limits also limit long-term thinking as a politician in their last term has no real accountability or incentives.