I think I actually believe him when he says its soul-sucking. He’s obviously missing a lot of perspective on what he calls ‘real jobs’, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an emotional toll from what amounts to being a clown whose paycheck is derived from the whims of literally faceless masses
If my body wasn’t so busted I would prefer general labor. Over almost any desk job. I hate it. I don’t have a chat section. At least with general labor i felt like i actually did something of worth at the end of the day.
“look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”
there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.
when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.
remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!
etc.
i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.
if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.
steamers when their job is to play video games for a few hours and make 1000s of dollars 😭
i challenge you to suffer his stupid fucking chat for a day… a lot of people would prefer back breaking labor.
I do think the streamer may have a point, but only in a bullshit jobs way. A job that actually improves the world has a sense of satisfaction that a job that’s either harmful or pointless lacks, and the latter does some damage to the psyche
That said, he could you know, change careers
This quote is out of context. He explained that streaming itself isn’t what is hard, it’s having everything he says taken out of context, the endless death threats, and the constant character assassinations. Also, he was working 60-70 hour weeks.
But then he might chip his manicure
He could probably get a desk job career that feels meaningful
You say chip, what’s up?
He’s right, normal jobs don’t completely take over your life or get you stalkers and death threats or make it impossible to exist in public without being harrassed. Success as a streamer is like any other kind of fame in that it results in a bunch of extra bullshit above and beyond the actual work that is uniquely psychologically exhausting.
Totally get that. Is someone forcing him to be a streamer? Is it that hard to stop?
People are allowed to complain about their jobs regardless of their short/medium term plans
Nope
Is it hard to stop needing a job? Yeah actually, famous people still have bills.
Career change? Or start building skills while you’re a streamer so you can eventually transition out? I’m not saying it’s easy at all. Just possible
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Clown world
Your mask is slipping.
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I think there is a lot to be said for the emotional load someone like Hasan deals with. We are talking thousands of death threats and vitriol, swatting, psyops, debate bros etc etc. The soul sucking is mental and different, not going to assume this was him saying he has it harder like this out of context meme is trying to portray.
Its very much the same as standup comedy. Its 100% you.
If people dont watch its because YOU arent entertaining enough, YOU arent likeable enough, YOU arent putting in enough effort and energy, YOU dont bring anything new to the table, YOU dont take enough risks… Theres no team, theres no band, theres no coworkers, its all on you. Thats a lot to hang your entire livelihood on.
I could only do streaming or a YT if I had “never work again” money because without the pressure I probably could be fun and entertaining the whole time.
The fuck he does. He’s a literal multimillionaire who grifts for a living from the comfort of his own home. You think someone like him goes on Twitter or Reddit and reads what people say about him? He barely interacts with the public outside of his streams, he has one of the most stress free jobs in the world. Emotional load my ass, the only pressure he has is to keep up his persona and to grow his audience which is a very privileged position to be in.
How does Hasan grift?
Genuinely what is wrong with you that you think getting constant death threats and harassment is “stress free”?
He’s a professional provocateur. He knows what he’s doing, and he voluntarily chooses to keep doing it anyway. You’re making it sound like he doesn’t have always have the option to retreat to a private life at any time if he chooses to.
So why does it being voluntary mean the job can’t be soul sucking. I could quit my job and live off benefits for the rest of my life if I wanted to, so can I not complain about my job?
In his case, he could quit his job and work a normal, more low profile job or he could just straight up retire entirely since he has the money do so. He’s not in a position where he’s forced to do anything. He’s not some victim in poor victim who’s worthy of unconditional empathy. He’s not living paycheck to paycheck, he doesn’t do steaming because he has to, he doesn’t have to pay attention to what people say online, and he doesn’t have to keep streaming. He’s consciously choosing to do it, this is something that he clearly enjoys.
You still haven’t actually answered the question. You just keep repeating that he doesn’t have to do it if he doesn’t want to. But he does want to and he does do it, he’ll he probably enjoys it on the whole, but why does that mean the job can’t be draining and stressful?
Tell me you don’t watch him without telling me you don’t watch him.
I have a hard time believing that this guy is living some hellish, extremely stressful life because he voluntarily chose to make a career out of being a professional provocateur from the comfort of his own home.
You try receiving thousands of death threats and hate messages every single day and try not to let it get to you. It’s not that cut and dry.
But again, he does this of his own choosing. If it was bad as you say it is then there’s nothing stopping him from retiring or switching to normal job. He chooses to do this anyway because the money is good and he probably enjoys it. We also have to consider that he’s professional ragebaiter, he knows what he’s doing and people like him know how to avoid and tune out criticism and harassment.
Keep in mind, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m just saying that he’s not shouldering the weight of the world from being a professional political steamer like people here are making out to be.
He has said many times that the main thing driving him is wanting a better America for the working class, that’s all he cares about. He has very strong morals and principles and will always speak up for what he believes is right, that is why I genuinely enjoy his content. I can relate a lot to that. I think people that criticize him generally look at his content through a much more cynical lens than is the reality of the messages he is delivering.
I don’t think he has much of an emotional load because he’s a sociopath. His entire thing is a complete grift…and boy does it sell… And apparently you’re buying!
I wouldn’t worry too much about his feelings or lack thereof, He seems to find great comfort in his material wealth and assets.
I don’t think he’s a grifter. He stopped running ads as soon as his contract with Twitch was over, doesn’t do sponsorships, doesn’t sell nutritional supplements, lets “fan channels” repost his content, personally donates to candidates and causes, runs donation streams, etc. I guess he does sell merch, made by union shops. I’m pretty sure most his income comes from subscribers. I think he could make much more money doing the things listed above if he wanted to. I don’t particularly like his personality, and he does seem to be fairly consumeristic and vain, but I don’t think he’s a grifter.
It’s no use, my friend. There’s like a dozen shit-posters here who aren’t interested in doing anything except doing drive-by disinfo dumps on Hasan so that anyone not in-the-know in the thread genuinely asking “who is Hasan” gets to poison the well on digging any further…
Like someone says “who is this?” and then someone replying “oh that guy? He likes Hitler” and then most people will go “Oh ok I don’t need to look up anything else on this Bernie Sanders guy I guess then since that person who seems to be knowledgeable said he likes Hitler…”
It’s so odd to me how this guy has some of the most diehard fans on the internet. Like Hasan is literal multimillionaire streamer who doesn’t give two shits about you, why do you defend him so hard? You’re not even willing to consider the possibility that some of the criticism against him might be valid, you’re just dismissing it all as disinfo, and that’s absolutely wild to me.
I’m not even really a diehard fan. I don’t subscribe to his Twitch. Never paid him any money. Never have attempted to chat with him or commented on any of his videos… I will say - just based off his publicly verifiable actions, he seems to “give a shit” about the wellbeing of non-millionaires way more than CNN and MSNBC anchors do. Certainly a shitload more than my state’s senators do. Certainly more than the president does of any Americans… or Hell… any of his supporters… shit… or the president does probably of any of the president’s own family.
And in this day, I figure if I’m gonna get news from a handful of sources, I’d much rather get it from folks whose actions have demonstrated an objectively more favorable view of policies that align to my interests moreso than 90% of the news media and politicians out there.
What seems odd to me is that - because I can point to media anyone can watch for and verify for themselves all while you and several others continue to mischaracterize this guy as an animal abuser, or an anti-Semite, and other absurd easily debunked claims - somehow we are supposed to pretend that simply pointing that out makes people “die-hard fans?”
Hasan Piker isn’t some saint, but he seems to use at least some sizeable portion of his wealth to give voices to people who are not otherwise given a large platform… or those running for office who - as far as you can reasonably believe - would attempt to improve the material conditions of the overwhelming majority of NON-rich people…
Yet all you want to focus on is debunked dog shock memes mostly peddled by fans of far more problematic streamers as if they are true, or on the dude’s wealth that he acquires mostly through just streaming… not hocking bullshit… not shitty supplements, or by peddling misinformation or crypto / gambling schemes, or shitty snack foods and hyper-caffeinated drinks.
I DID consider the possibility once that the guy shocked his dog… but I’ve seen enough videos of him absolutely loving the shit out of her and walking with her and him holding her in his lap and calling friends he asked to babysit her when he was out of town just to check in on her to know that he’s not a dog abuser.
As far as I have seen, Hasan never has raised a hand at Kaya, and if he did, you would see her wince when he reached for her any one of the thousands of times he’s put his hands toward her.
I’ve seen abused dogs. That dog is not one of them. She is treated like royalty.
In summary - there seems to be a lot of bullshit out there about this guy. If you’ve got something real to share that you think is truly convincing that this guy is a real piece of shit - other than fake dog shock outrage memes, the “America deserved 9-11” clip, or the “ah I see you are rich, but if you were truly of the left, you would be poor!” critique that one webcomic makes fun of with the “we should improve society somewhat” well goblin gag, please share.
Otherwise, I think I’ve wasted way too much of my free time attempting to rebut all of the seemingly bad faith claims made by those who refuse to either engage in the video evidence provided, or have yet to reply back with any citable video or other sort of proof to further back up any of the pretty dubious claims made regarding how supposedly terrible this guy Hasan Piker is.
I’m not even really a diehard fan.
You wouldn’t write this novel sized comment if this was the case lol
he seems to “give a shit” about the wellbeing of non-millionaires way more than CNN and MSNBC anchors do. Certainly a shitload more than my state’s senators do. Certainly more than the president does of any Americans
How does this in any way disprove my point that he doesn’t give a shit about what people say about hime online both positive and negative?
I’d much rather get it from folks whose actions have demonstrated an objectively more favorable view of policies that align to my interests moreso than 90% of the news media and politicians out there.
This is horrible lol. Credibility of news should depend on their accuracy and objectivity, not how much they align with your preexisting news. What you’re describing here is just confirmation bias.
because I can point to media anyone can watch for and verify for themselves all while you and several others continue to mischaracterize this guy as an animal abuser, or an anti-Semite, and other absurd easily debunked claims
What in the fuck are you even talking about? What does this have to do with what I said? You choose to make up criticisms that neither I nor anybody else here made, and then wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs “debunking” them. The only thing you proved here is that you’re cartoonish caricature of the type of person I’m criticizing.
Why does him being a “multi millionaire” mean I have to hate him? In today’s world that’s just owning a successful small business. Not the filthy rich Scrooge McDuck kinda shit you’re implying it is.
I was just making the point that Hasan is in it for himself. This is clearly his business and he’s raking in the cash because of it. He does not care about how people online view him or what criticisms people have of him. That’s why I find it weird that he has all these ride or die stans who are willing to wear their shining armor and go to great lengths to defend him on online forums against any and all criticism, no matter how valid.
Nah I think you’re just either arguing for the sake of having an argument or you’re one of those people that have a hate boner for the guy.
As far as political streamers with fanbases under 30, he’s one of the few alternatives to the manosphere types and groypers. People can have a kneejerk reaction to defend someone those groups routinely target.
Is this not just the the lesser of two evils argument? It isn’t as convincing to me when it’s about political streamers that you voluntarily choose to consume in your free time vs consequential national elections with candidates who you had little influence in choosing.
There’s not a lesser of two evils argument there, so it makes sense it’d be unconvincing.
This is more of a ‘judge him by his enemies’ type thing.
Why shouldn’t we strive towards the truth?
That’s actually the point I’m trying to make. The person I’m replying to is trying to dismiss ALL criticisms against Hasan as disinformation, which I think is absolutely ridiculous as it’s based in the notion that no valid criticisms can exist against this guy.
You’re not willing to understand confirmation bias lol.
You’re looking for reasons as to why he isn’t while ignoring all the reasons that he is. And it’s not his merch, it’s all the shit that is swept for him. It’s all right there in plain sight.
He’s 100% a grifter, it’s baffling how anyone can deny this. Hasan preaches against capitalism, but he literally runs a for profit clothing brand where he sells clothes at ridiculously high prices. He preaches against consummerism, but he is notorious for bragging about he spends thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, on designer brand outfits and jewelry. In fact that’s all he ever wears on any of his streams. He preaches against wealth hoarding, but again, he’s a multimillionaire who used money he earned from ads, sales, and hard earned dollars from fans to buy a $200k sports car and $3 million mansion in Hollywood. Like what are we even talking about? This guy is grifter through and through, just because he doesn’t grift in the same way as Alex Jones, that doesn’t mean that he isn’t one.
Hasan preaches against capitalism, but he literally runs a for profit clothing brand where he sells clothes at ridiculously high prices.
“How come you, a communist own an iPhone. Checkmate communists”
Also in the present race to the bottom if you have standards that you expect your comparatively small run of clothing to meet (such as that the clothing is made by union laborers in decent working conditions) compared to say whatever clothing is being sold in big box stores, you have to expect that it will cost more.
Now if it came out that his merch was made in a sweatshop in Bangladesh and of lousy quality that would be a completely different story
he is notorious for bragging about he spends thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, on designer brand outfits and jewelry
Buying better quality stuff can improve one’s quality of life compared to whatever’s cheapest in the constant race to the bottom that this world is going through. If you can afford to buy something nice for yourself that you like, why not?
He preaches against wealth hoarding, but again, he’s a multimillionaire who used money he earned from ads, sales, and hard earned dollars from fans to buy a $200k sports car and $3 million mansion in Hollywood.
Soooo he’s hoarding his wealth? Or he’s spending it all and flashing it around? Which is it? Also $3 million for property in Hollywood only buys you a smallish house by the rest of the country’s standards. Seriously.
Like, clearly your problem is the classic “why do you a communist own an iPhone” but at the scale of a relatively wealthy person. People can have different opinions but I don’t think it’s unfair for someone who was able to get themselves into a position where they have some wealth to spend and enjoy that wealth, especially one who actively campaigns and lobbies in the interest of the working class and against their own interests.
The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars. There’s about 24 million millionaires in the US, there’s only about 3,000 billionaires in the entire world. There’s a world of difference between being wealthy and literally having wealth that exceeds that of entire countries
“How come you, a communist own an iPhone. Checkmate communists”
This is such a grossly disingenuous talking point by his stans because it exists solely to dismiss criticism against Hasan, even if it contradicts your own principles.
I am not one of those people who thinks that he’s a hypocrite for not living in abject poverty. It’s completely reasonable anybody, including socialists, to seek a comfortable life in a capitalist society. However, there is a very big difference between participating in society and living in luxury. The former is something you have to do, but the latter is a conscious and unnecessary choice. Which again, would’ve been fine if he was honest with his audience… but he isn’t.
If you can’t see the difference between a socialist who buys nothing but $7000 suits and $200,000 sports cars and someone who has an iPhone and Rav4, then that’s on you. My point stands.
you have to expect that it will cost more.
You’re falling for the grift, this is a part of his marketing. His gimmick is that the clothes are union made domestically, which he uses to justify the ridiculously high prices. However, that is NOT the reason why the prices are as high as they are. He constantly runs a lot promotions and sales events, which means that he’s not selling his merch at the minimum necessary to keep the operation going in order to give his customers the best deal, but he’s selling his products at a very juicy profit.
Buying better quality stuff can improve one’s quality of life compared to whatever’s cheapest in the constant race to the bottom that this world is going through.
You fundamentally misunderstand the point I’m making. The price isn’t the point, the reasons behind why the prices are so high is. Keep in mind, there are a lot of other clothing companies that use only union labor and manufacture domestically like AllAmericanClothing.com, but their prices are damn near half of what Hasan is selling his at.
Soooo he’s hoarding his wealth? Or he’s spending it all and flashing it around? Which is it? Also $3 million for property in Hollywood only buys you a smallish house by the rest of the country’s standards.
What point are you even trying to make? They’re one and the same. He’s raking money left and right and he’s using that money to indulge himself on a life of luxury at the expense of his audience.
Like, clearly your problem is the classic “why do you a communist own an iPhone” but at the scale of a relatively wealthy person.
But the reason why I called this disingenuous is because it is very reductionist. This entire talking point exists to intentionally kill the nuance and thus render the criticism as something silly. It’s like someone criticizing a preachy vegan who eats meat every time they go out, and then having another person come to their defense by saying something like “why are criticizing them? Are vegans not allowed to eat?”. Like clearly that’s not the point being made, you’re being obtuse on purpose.
The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars. There’s about 24 million millionaires in the US, there’s only about 3,000 billionaires in the entire world. There’s a world of difference between being wealthy and literally having wealth that exceeds that of entire countries
Again, you’re missing the point. The scale doesn’t matter, I’m criticizing the behavior. There’s a clear world of difference between a pair of grandparents owning a home for 50 years and that is now valued at over a million dollars, and someone like Hasan who’s living a live of wealth and luxury. If Hasan just lived a comfortable life and used his wealth in accordance to the principles he preaches then nobody would have an issue, but he doesn’t and thus he’s being criticized for it. It’s that simple.
Tell me you don’t watch him without telling me you don’t watch him.
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Anything’s possible when you make shit up
Thats my motto
Hey now, those are our material wealth and assets. However, my share apperaently getting lost in the mail along with my Soros protest check 😕
Da = Russian for yes
srael = the modern Nazis you like
Did I interpret that right?
That’s probably just an original nickname meant to sound angelic. Ezrael isn’t just someone who just nuked Israel and showed how EZ pwning them is. No matter what they said, you are an arse.
Hey thanks for stepping in for them and explaining doesn’t seem weird at all.
Ya so, my name has nothing to do with any of that silliness. I’ve had it for like 15 years online. But thanks for the amusing schizorant. I’m not into dehumanizing anyone, but you far rad leftists seem to be happy doing that, the same evil that nazi’s embody you’re happy to exercise yourself. Have fun with that.
Nazis were humans. But that was cute to call my concise comment a schizorant then hit me with that.
Must be crowded in that skull.
Thats not true
You are incorrect
You can’t even spell that
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Wrong
Actually, if you want a real answer, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
So, wrong.
What do you mean?
If someone explains something you disagree with, you have to actually explain why you think they’re wrong. Conversely, if you just say ‘nuh uh’, then ‘nuh uh’ is enough to prove you completely wrong.
I didn’t disagree with anything
Brilliant deduction, Holmes
Thanks babe 😘
You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.
Yeah, obviously there are worse jobs and steamers who love what they do, but I can’t think of a better way to ruin any enjoyment I had for gaming.
Mad respect for the ones who are on for 10 hours every day of the week for years straight, and somehow still manage to be healthy and have a family. I couldn’t do it.
Just for clarity, I couldn’t stack those bricks very well either.
Honestly it goes deeper than that. I’m part of a very small streamer community and the two biggest points of exhaustion are actually just community management and the platforms themselves.
You can be having an absolute blast playing games, bullshitting with chat, whatever else, and then ONE person can come in and ruin the entire vibe. The two big ones are people “um, ackshually"ing a joke you make or someone deciding to trauma dump into a 10+ person conversation to fish for compliments. The amount of times one of the streamers is vibing, making jokes, chat is blowing up and someone comes in like” I hate myself I want to die please compliment me and make me feel better while you’re live :'(" is insane. Just zero self awareness and you can’t just ignore someone writing what sounds like the first half of a suicide note so suddenly you flip from entertainer to therapist. For larger streamers this comes in the form of random groups of people deciding they don’t just hate you but actively want to sabotage you through stream sniping, harassment, doxxing, etc…
The platforms are just as bad. Having to constantly fear that any accident in a game gets you banned is just such a suffocating experience. This is worse in games with open mics where it’s your responsibility to police, mute, whatever else the random outbursts of hate speech and slurs. Heaven forbid you’re playing a game that suddenly surprises you with nudity or something else and you’re left wondering if you’re gonna get flagged by TOS because it arbitrarily wasn’t artistic enough. Lord have mercy on your soul if you stream something from Nintendo - - who seemingly just rolls a die once a month to decide which random community built around their games they want to Thanos snap out of existence.
The ones that do it so much dosen’t really have time for a healthy family life. This is why northernlion is the only normal streamer. He streams like for 6hr mon-fri, take vacations every once in a while and take care of himself and his family
Also the best streamer/youtuber. Watched him since high school and still check in periodically.
The problem with the statement(which I have no idea if it’s true or someone just made this for rage bait) is that it’s making a ranked comparison saying streaming sucks more than regular jobs, so it antagonizes the working class as it jumps into a misery competition.
It’s divisive, when instead we should be uniting under the reality that standards of living are shit due to wealth inequality. The statement in the image instead just divides us more.
People are struggling, and hearing someone say “I have it worse than you” is not helping. We have to be demanding our governments and political parties for solutions that address wealth inequality which is causing lower living standards and causing the general discontent.
It ranks the mental load of streaming and chat and job security. It doesn’t mean streaming is the hardest job on the mental. Just worse than average.
Very easy to point to the Michael Jordan of streaming at his peak and say “This is actually very easy and so lucrative, why would anyone complain?” while ignoring the depths of ignominy endured by the dregs of the podcasting industry, a la Adam Friedland.
But also there are so many people trying to become streamers. You don’t automatically have the right to make it just because you try streaming. Only a small hand of people provide entertainment for most. I get the struggle but maybe if you’re not successful or don’t make a living wage while attempting full-time you should just go back to a normal job. Just saying.
As long as life is going you don’t have to scrape anything.
LoL the poor streamers barely scraping by from all the sitting at home doing nothing but yapping all day
Y’know if you’re so jealous of streamers there’s nothing stopping you from downloading an app on your phone and trying it out.
Every job and every career has aspects that suck, and different people excel at handling those different types of suck. At my work I support people who do industrial sanitation. Literally the stuff you’d see on the TV show Dirty Jobs, while I sit in my cushy home office working about 6 projects at a time keeping the servers and databases happy and secure. Just about every day I have a conversation with the folks I support where they say something about how they could never do my job, and I reply with the exact same sentiment.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, it would be smart to stop talking and take the opportunity to learn
LoL won’t someone defend the streamers, you realize I’m making the same point that the post you are commenting under is making right
I’ll defend whoever’s actually right, fucking duh. What’s your point, that other people agree with you? Congrats on being popular and wrong
Has an isn’t right when referring to himself tho.
Has an is a multi millionaire. Anyone who thinks his profession is worse than a traditional working class job (including him) is fucking delusional.
He’s not saying it’s worse though.
Also being a millionaire is not like filthy rich, its like owning a house in a major city, or having a successful small business.
He is speaking on mental load. Assuming a person in the spotlight of the public has a similar set of challenges compared to a regular worker is dismissive.
Doesn’t mean they are worse of. Just means that some things can be hard.
Not only is the concept of a million dollar streamer having a worse mental load than your average working class schmo completely asinine, but that isn’t what the quote is saying in the context provided.
In the context provided (assuming its an accurate quote and context), Has an is asserting he has a worse mental load than your average working class Joe who works a traditional job for meager wages.
That is absolute bullshit. Its not delegitamizing or downplaying a millionaire streamer’s mental load to call that bullshit either. Its just fact.
This man could walk away at any time and still be set for life. Hell, he was already rich before he even picked up streaming. And you compare that to a worker who is one injury away from his family starving?
They can stop working in entertainment, it’s not like streamers are bound to a chair with a rope.
That’s not what this is about. This is about there being a psychological strain.
I can assure you that there is a lot more psychological and physical strain in monotonous physical work. A month in a factory made me appreciate my desk job in IT like nothing else in the world. Obviously burn out exists and destroys your motivation and ability to do things.
It’s different. You shouldn’t compare suffering.
If someone has their leg broken with bone sticking out and another person who fell and now has a broken skin on their hands I should assume they feel more or less the same and shouldn’t compare?
That’s not an apt comparison as we are comparing fundamentally different suffering/challenges.
So we shouldn’t compare some but should compare other types of suffering?
I mean there are far more challenging and demading types of work that don’t require physical labour. Streeming/being youtube personality is one of the least demanding and challenging work there is.
Boo hoo?
Also, Hasan is not “barely scraping by”. He’s a multi millionaire who could end the “soul sucking” by turning off his money font, but he doesn’t want to. It’s a slog for small streamers absolutely, but let’s not pretend like Hasan has any right to call his own job “soul-sucking” when he could retire in comfort, nay, luxury for the rest of his life at any time he chooses.
Yeah, they’re not forced to stay in frame and shocked with a shock collar if they move or anything.
Who?
I’ve actually attempted live streaming. It totally sucks the joy out of sitting in front of a computer and zoning out playing your game. You start to go “Oh no I can’t play this game cuz I’m playing it on stream.”
I wasn’t majorly successful but I still made affiliate and had some regular watchers. The pressure to create content and be entertaining and stay engaged was too much for me and continue doing it all for the paltry sums that I was getting.
I could also feel the pressure to become someone I’m not to reach more people. Something I refused to do. In the end though I made enough money streaming to make up for all the equipment I bought for it. I ran out of real time to stream when I got a new job that demanded more time from me. I am making so much more money so much faster by just clocking in and out every day and i feel like I’m building my skills in the field I’m in instead of making me hate my entertainment options.
I get that but like doing the same shit with excel and no audience instead also fucking sucks lol
True but when you have a moment where you just need to sit lean back, stretch, and say “argh I fucking hate excel”, you don’t have an audience arguing that you should love it. Or maybe you do have an audience but it’s colleagues who have similar experience and can commiserate or give advice about the latest annoyance if they know a trick.
well imagine theres like 15 people back seat driving your spreadsheets
Given how much I disagree with myself I effectively have that for everything. When I say everything I mean everything, can’t even jack off to porn without some stupid gremlin side of my psyche telling me 1/10 acting is shit not enough foreplay.
for me, streaming is a way for me to share my activity with my friends and have fun. i’ve given my friends many ways to interact with (bully) me on-stream, and it’s all good fun. if my social battery ever drains, i stop streaming for a few days.
i got my affiliate, and am currently not fussed about getting that partner. if i ever get popular, sure, that would be very cool, but honestly, i’m happy with sharing the joy with my friends.
One guy I still really like to watch hit the perfect stride. He has a real job now, but he occasionally streams based on when he feels like, and has a pretty dedicated, very small, group of followers he feels safe around. He’s fine with ending stream early if there’s no real vibe.
He used to be much bigger, so he has the experience; he’s just fine with downsizing a bit, playing variety games, etc.
Do you feel free to throw up a stream when you game how you really want now a days or have you retired entirely?
I haven’t booted up OBS in a few months now. It would be too much work for me to do. Make my hair look nice, make sure my lighting setup is just right, clean my room, set up my camera angle and then make sure that everything on stream is appropriate. Not copyrighted and all that stuff.
I think about it sometimes, but ultimately I might end up just doing it for fun on a self-hosted stream or something like that if I ever have time. I’ve been on a whole own my own digital footprint kick lately.
about the nice looking stuff, have you considered vtubing or even just pngtubing? that should take a bunch of pressure off having to look nice for the stream. they do take some initial setup (getting the vtuber model, setting up the vtubing software), but afterwards when you want to stream, you can just start up the software and you’re ready to go.
about copyrighted material, it’s mostly a matter of finding a playlist from specific stream-friendly labels, such as NoCopyrightSounds and Chillhop Music. they may require attribution in the form of a channel panel underneath your stream, but afterwards you’re free to stream and monetize.
Aside from the streamdeck, which tbh i coulda memorized some keyboard commands instead, I can justify the other streaming related buys like the webcam and fancy mic with the boom arm and pop filter as being useful if a bit extra for other shit.
I get dogwater viewers but I just shoot the shit and play stuff I was going to play anyhow so its a few extra bucks to play with some buddies on the proverbial couch heckling or rooting for me as the case may be.
Nah he’s right. I’m in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can’t even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who’s effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.
I feel he’s comparing streaming to white collar jobs, not blue collar jobs. I often refer to my white collar job as my first “real job” because it was the first job I got involving my degree. Prior to that my blue collar jobs where I worked as a “janitor” or in a deli were just part time work to get some spending money.
Ironically, or perhaps not depending on your perspective, having every statement you make over analyzed because your profession is just constantly making statements live can certainly be soul sucking. I think this post is evidence of that. You have to constantly make sure you don’t say things that can get clipped in a way that will make you look bad.
Judging by his other statements, I find it hard to believe he’s saying that hard manual labor is easy work that isn’t soul sucking.
What does the need to create divisive discourse around a popular leftist streamer serve to obscure about how you actually feel about the world?
“A real job” I guess does a lot of work here.
There’s nothing more demoralizing than being on a “make work” job, where you’re so silod off from the world there’s no connection from what you do to any meaningful outcome.
And that defines an incredibly large chunk of corporate jobs.
It’s why in goulogs and concentration camps they make prisoners break rocks.
Yeah, I think the reason behind the work plays a big role in our perception of it. If we are building an earthen wall to protect our friends and family from invaders, there is a finite amount of work that ends with a sense of accomplishment. If we are looking through the corporation’s quarterly reports in order to become a fraction of a percent more profitable, the work continues forever and the end result is meaningless.
In addition the physical direct aspect of the wall building. At least for me any manufacturing job suits exactly because at the end of the day there’s a literal physical representation of what i did. Later going to the store and having the recognition when seeing something i made.
There was no such connection when trying out office jobs or basically anything else besides manufacturing. Just doing some completely meaningless task the whole day and best case scenario is some random numbers going up.
So while manufacturing is physically tiring, office jobs are soul sucking and client service is just hell in all aspects.
“Being on standby” is torture.
No. Give me task. Let me do it. Let me be done.
also “in the same way” - that’s a broad net
I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism. If you left out the “in the same way” as well.
I keep saying that actual literacy is a required prerequisite to media literacy… pretty scary how many people functionally can’t read these days.
Who is he?
Hasan Piker, a left wing political commentator on the internet, who’s popular among the 18-35 set
under attack by his closest aligning party, because he is threatening right wing democrats position, and gamesmanship of the vote
Are you implying Hasan is aligned in any way with the Democrats?
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest yet they are spending their influence in atacking the left pull of their base. and Hasan is the attackable face of this pressure, as oppose to doing their fucking job in fighting tyranny.
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest
So what? They’re still extremely far away and their ideology (Liberalism) is completely incompatible with Hasan’s (Marxist-Leninism).
There is 0 incentive for Democrats to include someone like Hasan in their coalition.
ok?
so what?
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
it is clear that democrats want the same things as republicans, but are not as brazen. they don’t want to interface with a youtuber, cool, fine, whatever, i don’t really care.
but they ignore the progressive pull at their own peril. it is already proved that they no longer have the leverage to demand a conservative democrat as a candidate and actually win elections.
Oh my b thought it was Steven Seagal.
Steven Seagal
Performative politics is all the rage.
Hasan is a socialist at random. He’s utterly philosophically illiterate, so his positions are a flip of the coin. You might say, “fine, let’s use that,” and I agree - as long as you don’t lose sight of the fact that he’s a narcissistic grifter.
In all seriousness, you can’t entrust political significance to character-deficient, uneducated dingdongs with no commitment to reality.
Wow it’s almost like it’s impossible to have 100% consistency across 12 hours a day of talking…
I watched Hassan become famous and his dishonest narcissistic imbecility is about the only consistent feature of his character. The cult of celebrity has its hooks in you.
Is there some in depth (3000 word+) article about this? I’ve literally never seen him be dishonest about stuff. I don’t watch him that much.
I watch his streams pretty regularly and he’s extremely consistent. I’d say he’s honest and direct about his opinions to a fault, even. He has a LOT of haters who tend to be a bit… obsessive, to put it charitably.
No idea. I could write a lot about Hassan, but it’s not worth my time and it’s faster to relegate his fans to Trump supporter status.
I’m not denying that he sometimes utters the correct sentiments, but he has no principles. I’d consider him basically soulless.
Do you have such a small world view that hasan fans integer underflow to trump supporter?
Sometimes I do wish that my world were small enough to exclude knowledge about Hasan, or about the worms that burrow into children’s eyeballs, or the genocides of history, or any other kinds of evil.
Coming from a guy that can’t even spell his name right, smh.
That’s such a good point.
You are completely full of shit
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He’s consistenty a fucking tool in certain opinions and continues to double-down on the worst takes. Also an animal abuser.
Anyone here calling Piker an animal abuser is either someone who’s been fooled by grifters, or an absolutely gross liar.
See video for yourself here : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dqexB1-3TOA
Why are people hating on this guy? GREAT QUESTION.
Well, you see - there’s a bunch of really gross right wingers who hate him, as well as grifting streamers (including some sex pests who have gotten into ACTUAL trouble) who don’t like this specific commentator who’ve tried to discredit him and in a moment where the guy’s very well-treated and absolutely beloved dog apparently hurt her paw or something and they were able to edit out of context, intentionally misinterpret, and then convince their hordes of followers to make memes of the moment and share everywhere and comment in every thread mentioning the guy. There’s also really sour grapes from noted internet meme comedy guy H3H3 - who had a podcast called “Leftovers” with Hasan for a while until they had a falling out post-October 7th who also has had it out for the guy ever since then.
…But you don’t have to take my word for it.
There are plenty of other left-wing and even just centrist types, like Medhi Hasan, the Pod Johns - aka Obama’s former speech writer guys that formed a podcast network years later, Kyle Kulinski, Jennifer Welch (aka the former neolib wine-mom queen turned leftist), Sam Seder and his crew at the Majority Report all vouch for the guy.
Hell, even Zohran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, and AOC are all cool with Hasan Piker.
Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
Shock: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-educator-et-300 Vibration: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300 https://www.reedog.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
Did you watch the full unedited video of the supposed “shock” including before and after?
Did you see the video of Hasan debunking it? Did anything Hasan said in this debunking come across as seemingly shady or obvious bullshit?
Did you see the video compilation of Hasan loving on the dog a bunch?
Do you see any videos that anyone has been able to find where he reaches with his hand toward her or raises his hand where she winces in fear - in a way that a dog who is hit often by its owner does?
Any other video in the 3 years of streaming literally 12+ hours a day where he’s had her in which you can find even A SINGLE ADDITIONAL MOMENT of obvious self-evident proof of abuse? Another moment where the dog cried out in pain or fear?
No one should ask you to ignore anything, but the fact that you’re scrutinizing whether or not the collar is a shock collar that was swapped out secretly or that he had someone make edits to a video of seems like far more of a stretch than maybe just the idea that some assholes hate the guy and can’t otherwise come up with any legitimate criticisms and figure this was an opportunity to jump in on… don’t you think?
TL:DR; Please don’t be angry and don’t go full Trump supporter on me and ignore all of this cause you don’t believe that it’s true. Help me see the truth. If you did see these collar pics then tell me what is it I’m not seeing myself that proves it’s a vibration only collar and not a shock one without prongs? Tell me and I’ll listen. Please, just refute the hard evidence. I WANT to believe you.
If you still need a reason for me to care so much: Autism.
The video of the incident looks like what people says that happened, looks like he reached his hand somewhere (supposedly the remote) and Kaya complains. It could be a coincidence of course, and it doesn’t help that Hasan doesn’t show the collar immediately after (although understandable, not a realistic demand since he has no reasons, it would be great if he did but in the video you linked there didn’t seem to be anyone accusing Hasan from shocking Kaya, looks like that came later). Because of this we can only speculate.
The debunk video doesn’t debunk anything, he acknowledges that people are looking at his supposedly vibration only collar but he doesn’t acknowledge exactly WHY they’re doing it (aside from right grifter assholes wanting to smear him), he doesn’t actually stop and debunk it. The reason people points at the collar is because it looks just like the vibration version without the prongs. He missed an unrealistic opportunity to proof himself when he did not show the collar when it happened (again, understandable), and he lost a very realistic opportunity in this debunk video by not showing it again but in more detail to prove it’s not a shock version. I mean, he doesn’t call it “modded shock into vibration only collar”, he claims that’s just a vibration collar, nothing else. I can’t stress enough how bad it is that he doesn’t show the collar in more detail, if he wanted to end all of this he would’ve just zoomed the fuck into it and shut everyone up, It’s easier to believe that he’s hiding something that believing he is dumb. It is very suspicious. You can always say he was nervous but he’s probably got plenty of time to plan the debunk.
(This is only speculation you can skip this paragraph) In the video he also claims that Kaya hurt herself. That implies she has a vibration collar on but he didn’t use it, so he can’t really go “I used a collar but it only vibrates” since that would mean he lied, and if he lies then how is anyone supposed to trust him? If he did we’d be in a “alt right moving goalposts” like situation.
I don’t need to see the one loving his dog. I mean “He loves Kaya” is sadly not a valid proof that he didn’t shock her unlike actual pictures of the collar, and three things can be true at the same time:
- He loves Kaya;
- He shocked Kaya;
- Stinky (literally) Asmnogold-like people are using it as an excuse to shit on him and exaggerate on what happened.
And the best way to judge a situation is by keeping it cool. Getting to know Hasan better is sadly not a good way of thinking things calmly and subjectively the same way falling into the ragebait shit right wing grifters upload would not be ideal.
But I’m not here to judge if Hasan is a dog abuser, I’m here ONLY to judge if he shocked her, for my own sanity, because I’m seeing all this evidence pointing out he did it yet people don’t seem to acknowledge it, similar to how right wing nutjobs won’t understand cheeto man is a pedofile rapist despite all of the evidence, it’s like they can’t see the evidence or maybe they do and they don’t care because “the left only wants to shit on him”. The equivalent in this situation would be Hasan fans not caring Kaya got shocked because “the right only wants to shit on him” (which is true, but that doesn’t justify not calling him out on what he did IF he did it), don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT saying shocking a dog so it doesn’t move is on the same level of a super mega pedophile ring, and justifying the former is much, MUCH better than the latter, I’m just trying to get the point across that Trump’s fans will either justify whatever he does or blindly believe everything he says because they’re out of touch fanatics. Maybe they genuinely believe he didn’t diddle the kiddlers. Maybe they just don’t bother to either look at it or to exist in the same reality we do, probably because they like the guy. I don’t want to believe Hasan fans are on the same realm of ignoring reality and evidence because “I like him he would never”. This whole situation feels the same to me. Look at that debunk video, it proofs my point, Hasan glares over the issue and explains people hating him is making stuff up to hate on him, but he never addresses the actual stuff being said on the videos which only makes me think he can’t and only hopes his fans will blindly defend him, then you go and link it as if it does prove something.
But lets give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he uses a modded shock collar so it only shakes. Why not say that? What if he just has a vibration collar that looks EXACTLY like the shock one? Like a knock off or something. Just show the model online, and again, the collar itself closely.
If you read this far, please. I IMPLORE you to look at the videos of the people comparing the pictures on his streams showing the collar with the images on the collars site I linked, don’t just assume that you won’t get anything from it like a Trump supporter wouldn’t look at the Epstein files. Yes, these people probably don’t give a flying FUCK about Kaya, but that’s beyond the point here, the point is if he shocked her. The pics with the collar he showed make it clear (at least to me) it’s then shock version without prongs. They can’t be fake cause they’re taken from his stream and Hasan doesn’t even claim them to be fake, he just doesn’t claim anything, the only thing preventing you from looking at and comparing them would be blind trust.
All I want you to do is compare the collar Hasan shows with the pictures of the collars on the websites and tell me why that is not a shock version with prongs removed. If you don’t want to do it cause you think Hasan is innocent, think of all the alt right nutjobs that won’t look at the Epstein files because Trump is “innocent” so there’s no point (not saying shocking a dog is as bad as mass child rape, just pointing out how fanaticism clouds people’s judgement). Keep your mind open and I will keep mine, but refute the hard evidence, refute it. Don’t change the subject or say things like “Nu uh he loves Kaya”, that’s not evidence, neither is “I like him he would never”.
Here’s a video from a professional dog trainer, who claims he didn’t know Hasan prior, analyzing the incident and the device. He concluded that it wasn’t a shock- but a vibration-collar (or used as such). He did not see any misconduct from Hasan. I read somewhere the trainer was massively harassed after the video.
Also nice cherry pick. Gee, I wonder why you didn’t go with something more recent…
😄 yeah Hasan seems really doomed now from his joking heartbreak resulting from Mamdani needing to distance himself from a streamer so non-terminally online people don’t freak out at the old “America Deserved 9-11” meme clip.
Meanwhile, again I ask you - any thoughts on Mr. Barelli’s use of the n-word, and his really problematic 29yr:16yr olds sex comment I keep trying to get a reply on?
Oops, guess we know why you chose something from a year ago instead of this…
Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
So you’re a Destiny fan - got it. 🤣
Also I did post this and this as well to attempt to provide support for the idea the guy doesn’t abuse his dog - and those first 2 videos are not from him (yeah the third is, but it contains a compilation of the dude being sweet to his dog over the years), but I’m sure you’ll discredit those first 2 videos somehow, too.
Look… it’s all right.
Destiny did an awesome takedown of JonTron (who I also once liked in the OG Game Grumps days) being racist a long time ago and he has teamed up with his own former fan Vaush against some actual fascists so I don’t absolutely hate the guy… but seeing you come to his defense when I bring up any of the accusations that have been made against the dude let me know where you stand.
Destiny has dog shit opinions in a lot of cases, but is also someone I can admit to liking having as an ally against the worst people on the internet.
However, Jesus Christ, does Destiny let his personal vendettas completely guide his political compass.
Also, there’s stuff like :
- Destiny casually dropping the N-word
- Destiny’s on-video stated opinions on whether or not 29-year olds having sex with 16-year olds is ok
I mean - those 2 are a big yikes for me personally and are the main reason I don’t really follow him.
Now that’s what I’d expect from a Hasan fan, defending accusations of shocking his dog by deflecting to rant about Destiny.
I saw him kick his dog with steel toe boots
Do you have a source for this?
Honestly, it’s so easy to attach a link to anything you comment - so the only reason not to is if you lack the evidence to back up a claim.
It was on the news
No you didn’t
I literally did
Hey, nice copy-pasta. I don’t care for your argument of authority. That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours. In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
Who are you a fan of?
I’m an anti-capitalist Anarchist, the other group you people hate ;-)
The Coolzone media crew I guess? Everyone here is a piece of shit who deserves to burn in the hell they imagine.
What you care about doesn’t matter, you are completely full of shit
Source on all that?
Who is this
Hasan
Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine. His worship of China. Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar. Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
What has he said about the Ukraine war?
He has consistently stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wrong and is an imperialist endeavor. I haven’t heard him say a good word about Russia or Putin
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen. (I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
You are either incurably stupid or lying
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
True
What do you mean
