I got out of the military and switched to 12 hour time when I was living a pure 8-5 work life. Now I work, and work with people at all hours, so I’ve switched back to 24 hour time, though I still speak in 12 hour time. If I’m scheduling something, it is in 24 hour time. If someone asks me what time it is, I’ll look at my phone and it will read 17:00 but I’ll say 5 without blinking.

And the military doesn’t say one thousand five hundred thirty like this clueless OP says. They say fifteen thirty. And the reason they don’t speak in 12 hour time like civilians in many countries, is because saying, “we need you on the left flank by 1530” is more efficient and less ambiguous than “we need you on the left flank at 3:30, over.”

“Wait, do you mean am or pm?”

“-m”

“I didn’t copy, you broke up”

Etc etc.

EDIT also I forgot to mention, 1530 is quicker and more efficient to type on a typewriter or teletype than 15:30. As long as everyone is on the same page, but orders would also have a date to correspond with the time, so it is pretty obvious.

In the US, 24 hour time was first used by the military, and that really only started with the Navy in 1920. The Army didn’t adopt it until WWII. So for a lot of US Americans that was their first exposure to using it, and it corresponded to a time when a lot of people were veterans, so the term “military time” just evolved from that perfect storm of consequences.

Alternatively, adoption of 24 hour time in many European countries started on the civilian side.

Says someone that grew up with them. And they are a little more complicated than “green means go, red means stop”. Efficiency and simplicity aren’t synonyms.

Personally I’m glad we are getting more of them. When I lived in England, and where I learned how to use them, I could see their effectiveness. This was long before they started gaining in popularity in the US. Living in the US, you may have only seen them in pictures, or in a scene in a movie, so it just looked like an absolute clusterfuck if you didn’t know what was going on. Now, I just wish people here would fucking signal properly when using them because that is really the key to maximizing their efficiency.

This is the way.

That’s fair.

all cops are bastards after all.

Nah. Didn’t ask for your hoser opinion. You still don’t have a say, and you have no idea what it is like living under the thumb of a government that doesn’t respond to your wants or your needs at all. Democrats are responsible for that. Their constant shift to the right created this monster and they and you now say “why don’t you vote for the people that allowed for the creation of this monster over the past 40+ years?” Fuck off.

You guys lambast us for our lack of things like universal healthcare, when the democrats are unwilling to vote for it or even campaign on it. They treat it as if it is a dirty word. They don’t even want to say it. We only get the right wing version of it. We get Obamacare aka Romneycare. But the people that want it are constantly ignored by both the democrats and republicans and in your opinion we should just keep voting for that. Just keep feeding that machine. Surely it will get better. Fuck off.

I understand that Trump is way worse than the democrats. My conscience is clean. I voted for Harris, I voted for Clinton (Barf) I voted for Kerry, but before all that, I voted for Nader. After nearly 30 years of this shit, I’m starting to think that my initial instincts were correct. I don’t give a shit if you think I brought about Bush. I don’t give a shit if you think I wasted my vote. I have never registered as a Democrat, but I have supported them in every local, state, and federal election, and they continue to ignore people like me. I’m done. You, and the democrats, can fuck off.

And not limited to just US tourists as the headline implies. Garbage journalism.

Why should voters support a party whose interests are anathema to most people, even their own base? Genuine question.

Wow shocker… They just continue to ignore us. We’re “fringe” but at the same time we’re responsible for them losing. We’re “fringe” but the majority of dem and independent voters agree with us. A party that isn’t full of cultists will not vote for you if you ignore their demands for 30 fucking years.

Have you tried maybe not blaming the moral base of this country for the DNC’s failures? Failures they themselves recognize, but yet they still refuse to change.

You’re mad at people voting their conscience, but not at the establishment that just helps push this country further and further to the right, despite consistent polling that says most of the party, and independents, want the exact opposite. Since Bill Clinton, the democrats have helped shift the Overton window to such a degree that we now have Nazis, oligarchs, and theocratic nationalists running our country.

You should not be getting threatened, but you also should not be surprised when so many people are fed up with this shit, and you’re just kicking back fanning the flames for the memes.

Either grow up, or get bent, OP. We ain’t hearing it.

So, slop it sounds like.

On one hand, I guess it’s good that we are no longer pretending to not be an imperial nation and have given in fully to empire.

On the other hand, fuck me I’m so ashamed of this country. I wish people could pay attention to the shit we are doing.

Bro most Americans don’t even know about this

It’s goddamn infuriating. I’ve been doing this shit for 30 years, man. Holding my nose, voting for the centrist, because that’s where the party was, and that was my only option. Like look at a poll, dipshits. The vast majority of the party want to stop supporting genocide. The left is your ethical base. Start listening to us.

Just some good ol hard workin honest folks trying to get their fascism career off the ground.

The party is losing support poll after poll after poll, and they think attacking leftists is going to help. The polls are screaming that they are going in the wrong direction, and they are completely obsessed with Hasan Piker right now. There is a coordinated effort going on across social media that is so sad and obvious. They are flailing and crashing out and it’s pathetic. I’ve never seen a party more outwardly hostile to its own voters than the mother fucking Democratic party. The Republicans at least feign like they care about their voter’s desires (mostly because they just tell their voters what they want).

Point on your Destiny waifu pillow where Hasan touched you.

The US lost quite a few aircraft during Desert Storm.