Feddit.onlineIran ceasefire deal a partial win for Trump - but at a high cost
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyvp55xrlro
In a statement after Trump’s ceasefire message, Iranian foreign minister Seyed Aragchi said that Iran would halt its “defensive operations” and allow safe passage through the Hormuz “via coordination with Iran’s armed forces”. He added that the US had accepted the “general framework” of the Iranian 10-point plan.
That plan includes the US withdrawing its military forces from the region, lifting economic sanctions on Iran, paying compensation for war damages and allowing Iran to maintain control over Hormuz. It is hard to imagine Trump actually agreeing to any of those conditions – a sign that the next two weeks of negotiations could be treacherous.
For the moment, however, this is a partial political victory for Trump. He made a dramatic threat and achieved the desired result. But the ceasefire is a reprieve, not a permanent settlement.
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A win for Trump? And what did he win exactly?
The idiot basically caved to Iran’s 10 point plan.
HellsBellePatient stamina is not one of tRump’s strong suits. He demands immediate gratification and if he doesn’t get it he throws a temper tantrum.
Guaranteed every world leader is now fully aware of this and will use it against America in every possible way.
Every world leader already knew this. 10 years ago. That’s why Iran never backed down to any of Trump‘s threats, and that’s why they kept sending out all of those hilarious Lego videos, taunting Trump. They knew they could outlast Trump in a conflict, because he’d end up embarrassing himself and losing interest. that’s when they could get everything they wanted.
And, guess what? That’s exactly what just happened.
Null User Object“He ended another war! 🎉” - MAGAts
A partial win? So far this is the most resounding and embarrassing defeat I remember witnessing over the past decades.
How is it a victory if the best case scenario is exactly the state of affairs prior (ie. the strait of hormuz being open) to the start of this war? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say nothing was accomplished? I wouldn’t be suprised if Iran leverages greater geopolitical influence from this, that’s how incompetent Trump and the group of great American intellectuals currently in his government are.
It sounds like affairs are exactly as they were prior except Iran got a bunch of stuff that they didn’t have previously.
It did what it was supposed to, which was distract from the Epstein files. The cost to us plebs is of no consequence to them.
nothing was accomplished
Well we did murder a couple hundred school children, so there’s that.
NaichI’ve got one word for you: Brexit.
Could you maybe try three or four more words to make some sort of sense?
Sorry, I’ve run out of words. Just typing this is using up the few remaining words I have. I would explain more, but there really are no more words available to me. Sorry.
Oh hang on, I’ve found some under the couch. Brexit, when the UK left the European Union, was a pointless act of economic, social, and security self -harm, with even the most ardent proponents ultimately admitting that it would take years to just get back to where we started. The negative effects are still being felt 10 years later and the country is still divided about it. Despite all this, the ringleader and his political party has a reasonable chance of actually becoming government, showing just how fucking stupid people here are.
It’s telling that all of the coverage of the ceasefire has basically omitted the role that the Prime Minister of Pakistan played in making it happen.
Fuck Western media. Propaganda machines for the oligarchy.
Honestly the best thing to come out of this shitshow of a war is the absolutely hilarious trolling that Iranian embassies fired off at orangeboi
AlmaccaIt’s funny to think how much better off pretty much everyone on the planet would be, with the exception of a handful of rich cunts, if Trump had simply sat on his hands and done nothing. But I guess that was always the plan.
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WTF is this shit? He didn’t win anything, he caused the war and got it closed. He’s back where we were except billions poorer.
I think it’ll be worse.
I think his team will be desperate to end the stupid war he started, I think he’ll use his art of the deal to give Iran most of the ten point plan they want with no concessions to not seek out nuclear weapons, I think that might win on reparations but will lose the toll.
Either way I think Iran will extract money from the US taxpayer to restart their nuclear weapons program and this time they won’t stop because they’ve seen what America will do with Israel under Republicans and they don’t see Republican attacking North Korea even though they’re much the same except with nukes.
This is a humiliating strategic failure for the U.S. There is no way to spin this as even a partial victory. Pre-war the strait was open with Iran not in control. The U.S. has spent billions, is now facing concessions, and has cemented Iran’s control of a vital piece of critical infrastructure. How is this a victory?
Its defeat is what it is lol
Art of the deal. 🤣🤣🤣
But to be honest, I don’t think Trump will honor this deal either.
It like making a deal with Hitler, Trump will tear it up as soon as it is convenient to him.
Seems like Iran called Trump’s bluff. They Iranian didn’t give a shit, and just demanded everything.
The cost mentioned in the article in points, each point is quoted directly from the article:
So Iran may come out of this war in way better shape that they’ve been for decades.
It remains to be seen if Trump can keep a lid on his ego long enough for the whole thing to blow over and Iran to get the concessions they want. The markets are reacting strongly to the news, but I am not convinced that the two week ceasefire will amount to anything if the Trump admin can’t leave the issue well enough alone. We’ll just have to wait and see if the war is more profitable for Trump and his insider trading buddies than it is politically volatile for him.
He’s obviously going to try and spin this as a victory if he does manage to pull out successfully, but it’s important to ask the question - what were the US war goals and did they achieve them? He should not get credit for starting a war and then ending it swiftly, that is the expected outcome. Seems to me that they’ve accomplished nothing and are bragging about cleaning up the mess that they created. Hopefully people will still remember come midterms this year.