Feddit.onlineIt's too brriiigghhtttt
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I was round a friend’s house, early afternoon, plenty of natural sunlight, and he walks in and switches on the ceiling light. It was like looking at a permanent nuclear blast.
Had to get him to turn it off immediately. He couldn’t understand why I didn’t want it on.
I asked: “What are you trying to simulate, a hospital corridor, a police interrogation room?”
I’ve seen other people use 100 watt bare bulbs as their main light (and no curtains/blinds). For Christ-sake, at least get an up-lighting shade.
A big bright exposed light source and they watch tv. With the bulb reflected in the middle of the screen.
How do people live like this? Do they all have cataracts?
Did that friend come from the outside?
Because our eyes adapt to our surrounding.
If you always stay in the dark, never putting on the light. Any light will burn your eyes.
But if you are outside and it is sunny, going inside will always be dark.
It’s not even good light, either. It’s really narrow band light that isn’t natural, and so is really bad for fast object recognition and is blinding and glare.
Like using a laser pointer to illuminate stuff, it’s just gonna blind you and not really make it easier to see.
And it fucks up your ability to see outside of that light source, like having a really bright monitor in a dark room that you ALSO need to see.
There’s a good video explanation somewhere…..
I think this was the one https://youtu.be/Uq7pfrognGM
But it also doesn’t even take into account all the other stupid design issues.
Also https://youtu.be/-Lh2wPGKnAM
And
https://youtu.be/D4BAgYQ32RI
It’s basically just dumbass advertising and dumbass ignorant people buying into it. Like computer monitor tech when “hd” became a thing or refresh rate on lcds and companies playing fuckfuck number games advertising the biggest number they can. Or speaker companies advertising cheap garbage by how loud it can technically get but it actually sounds like absolute garbage and pisses everybody off when you blast your cheap piss everywhere. I fucking hate these shitty headlights so goddamn much.
Like if would be one thing if it was perfect light and was just bad for ecosystems at night. But no, it’s like the loudest, screechiest bullshit screaming light that blinds everybody for no fucking reason AND DOESN’T EVEN MAKE IT EASIER TO SEE FOR THE USER because now you have to also have (you don’t have to have) these shields that bar off the top edges of the lights to not blind other people, but now you have this massive contrast edge between shitty blinding light where your object recognition is ass, and DEAD BLACK UNLIT AREA which…. To make matters fucking worse, encourages the user TO TURN ON THEIR HIGH BEAMS FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKK!!!!!
related:
surely using harsh blue/white super bright LEDs for vehicle headlights is a good idea! how else will the driver be able to see after we’ve installed a 42” TV with undimmable backlighting directly in their field of view!
What’s “the big light”?
The ceiling light, compared to a lamp.
Oooh, got it. I don’t have a lamp, so I just don’t use any light when I can manage without, hah.
I think it’s the interior decorator philosophy of how lighting a residential room works.
For example, a single, central ceiling light is “the big light” , but having multiple lamps and/or wall lights that use warmer, diffuse light are not “the big light”.
It’s generally seen as cheap, lazy, and bad vibes to use “the big light”. Boomer or unaware millennial behavior.
Imagine entering a chill, groovy, warmly lit room, decorated by hippies and feels cozy or not hostile, and comfortable and welcoming and relaxing. That’s the opposite of “the big light”.
Or I could just be fucking wrong and thinking of something totally different /shrug
Exactly right, and also why I’ve ended up with a collection of about 8 lamps
Ah, a fellow Lamp Household Liver. We have an army of bulbless lamps in our laundry room at our house, and a couple working lamps with bulbs we use throughout the house.
I’ve ended up adopting a number of lamps from friends and finding great ones at car boot sales, ranging from lava lamps to wicker woven ones, sounds like you have a (wonderful but) more coherent collection than mine!
Oh my… I don’t think I’d classify my merry band of misfit lamps as “coherent” hahaha. There’s two or three nice lamps! …then a bunch I can’t throw away because it would make them feel bad, and by proxy, me be sad.
…I feel like someone those lamps would also set the house ablaze if plugged in and run overnight. Alas, squatter’s rights; I can’t just kick them out at this point, they’ve been here for over a decade.
My latest craze is using an RGB ring light (that I got for WFH video chats “so people cold see me better”, which DEFINITELY ever was used for that purpose and not IMMEDIATELY relegated to “Pokémon plushie collection light enhancer”) pointed upward on the opposite end of my room, turned down to medium-dim, and turned either one a cool bluegreen color, rainbow, or a warm white light which bounces off the ceiling. I love you, Ring Light of Many Colors!
Whoa I didn’t realise how wrong I was hahaha, sounds like you have an incredible setup! Especially envious of your plushies having their own personal lighting system, that’s definitely not going to motivate me to find one for my own collection…
The big light tends to get a colour changing bulb swapped into them so the many colours (and extremely useful dimming settings) I completely understand!
So what do you do when you leave the room or go to bed? You just wander around turning 8 lamps off? And what do you do when you come back in at night and you have to fumble around looking for the switch on each one?
You have to make little bypass wires and tie them all together to a master switch
Nice warm cave
Someone gave us one of those salt lamps (bottom middle) when I lived in Florida. I thought my spouse put a glass of cold water on the table it was on and forgot about it till the next day and cleaned up the table forgetting the sweat. So I cleaned it up. Next day the same thing. I picked the salt up and realized it was slowly melting. The humidity was just so high the salt would absorb as much water as it could, then when it couldn’t hold anymore apparently just leak it on the table. Ended up putting a towel under it, then just throwing it away and buying a dehumidifier.
Me, but with these new car headlights that are ridiculously bright and blue.
I get it that you want bright beams, but do you understand how many people are out there driving with night blindness? Old people with cataracts, or just people with nearsightedness or astigmatism, or vitamin a deficiency (alcoholics * cough *), do you really want to risk your life?
As someone who has to drive to work before sunrise, FUCK THESE HEADLIGHTS. I’ve even seen people with the old style incandescent headlights just having their high beams on as default. People stopped caring about others on the road long ago, but it really accelerated post-COVID.
I’ve been wondering if it was just me aging but there does seem to be sharp rise in selfishness after covid. Probably both I guess.
The combination of this topic and your display name reminds me of the Professor using his high beams to search for Pazuzu.
Pazuzu you ungrateful gargoyle! I put you through college and this is how you repay me?!
The big light is my mortal enemy.
This includes the sun; the biggest light.
God my partner likes them and I can’t stand them
My “partner” has been with me nearly 20 years and still tries to insist on using the most lights possible at all times and acts obtuse when I ask them not to… some people just refused to be influenced in anyway
Even though I use “the big light” as a phrase i still think this means the sun every time i see it.
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“I am so violently opposed to big lights” would make more sense
When you say “I hate the big light” you mean the central ceiling light.
When I say “I hate the big light” I mean the sun because why is it so goddamn bright outside all the time even when it’s cloudy?!
We are not the same.
My plants need it, go back in your cave.
I thought it meant the sun because I absolutely hate the sun. Source of all problems.
Strong light is the enemy. If the ceiling light is in it’s hard to do anything other than trying to actively look away from it at all times.
Some even go outside unprotected and just sit under the giant light. Batshit insane I know
Do Americans call it “the big light” too? Because that’s always seemed like a very British thing to me
Ah the absolute irony of struggling to read this in the dark, using dark mode, with the text background shining so brightly lit.
I have epilepsy and the big lights kill my eyes and head. I work with mostly natural light in my house and have all my electronics set to be hella dim with max blue light filtering
I suffer from scintillating scotoma and bright light is a trigger. I think I understand what Springsteen was singing about in that song about douches.
Smart lights are the answer.
They’re also a security vulnerability and expensive and usually low lumen output.
Natural sunlight is the actual answer. Windows and fresh air!
Many smart lights are not a security vulnerability. Get those that connect to a local only hub and or if you need access away from home for whatever reason, get HomeKit enabled devices.
Plus, even if remote access could happen, it’s not even a security vulnerability to have a stranger turn on my lights. I just flip the switch off.
I’m sitting here with my red and blue soft lighting in the evenings watching tv and playing games. It’s the perfect lighting.
I mean, an arguably better counterargument would just be: you aren’t secure by a massive amount as it is with your normal stuff and the dedicated level by which somebody would have to be to try to vector in through a lightbulb would be state sponsored.
But also, non wifi bulbs just don’t introduce this issue at all and never will.
But also, I also use and like rgb smart lights/bulbs, so there’s that.
No just don’t get the cheap shitty Wi-Fi ones.
Mine are fully locally controlled with a radio that hooks into my network. No internet needed whatsoever. Just as bright as any other LED lights, if not brighter than most cheap ones.
Plus since I can control the color/temperature I have them set to follow the sun cycle so that during the day they’re brighter and more white, and as it gets later in the day and the sun goes down they become dimmer and more warm. It even adjusts to the changing sunset year round. They are pricy though.
I do agree that sunlight is usually enough during the day for most rooms.
Oh I like the sound of those lights. It’s hard to find anything other than the crappy wifi ones, can you share details or a link?
You’ll want Zigbee powered bulbs. Phillips Hue are probably the highest end but stupid expensive. Innr is a brand made by ex-Hue employees that are half the price and just as good. ThirdReality makes ones that are also good but maybe not as bright or as good on colors.
But you’ll also need a Zigbee radio/controller. I think most Amazon Alexa devices can do it, or other smart hubs. But I recommend an open source and local solution that you own, which would be something like HomeAssistant plus a radio. I put more details here; https://thelemmy.club/post/47243166/25883772
Do you have any recommendations? I bought mine in 2014, and they’re still rocking but there is a bit of buzzing when the switch is turned on, and the app isn’t supported anymore.
Do a Zigbee setup. You’ll need something like Homeassistant which you can setup on a home server or raspberry pi (there’s tons of tutorials). Or buy a pre built little plug and play one. https://www.home-assistant.io/green
You’ll also need a Zigbee radio. Homeassistant sells one https://www.home-assistant.io/connect/zbt-2/, but I use a network attached one like https://a.co/d/0aQpLciK
For bulbs the highest end Zigbee ones would be Phillips Hue (which yes work with this setup - you don’t need their proprietary hub). But they are stupid expensive IMO. There’s a brand called Innr which are half as expensive and just as good. If you want a more budget friendly one ThirdReality makes bulbs which are perfectly good but maybe not quite as bright or good on colors as Innr. I have a mix of both, but try to keep them in separate rooms so you don’t notice the slight color difference.
You’ll also want a Zigbee switch. I rent so I can’t replace the wall switches so I just stuck on these battery buttons by ThirdReality. and covered the switches with 3d printed covers. The batteries last a year or so with a AAA. But there’s also ones that completely replace the wall switch like https://a.co/d/01w5jj63
And now that you’ve got Homeassistant you can do other cool things. It can hook into basically any smart devices. When I press and hold down on the light switch/button in my living room it turns off all the lights/lamps and the TV at the same time. Or the one in my bedroom also controls the fan by the bed. You can get motorized curtains that can help adjust light levels automatically and close when you’re away to insulate. You can hook into motion sensors, weather stations, door sensors, humidity sensors, etc. There’s also Zigbee smart plugs so you can control really anything.
It is a bit pricey to get into but once you have it you own it, and no company can just shut down and leave you SOL.
Natural sunlight only works while the sun is up. That’s no replacement for artificial lighting
Yup. Definitely not.
My smart lights are ZigBee based and therefore have no internet capability. The only security risk so far is jamming, no big deal.
The answer to what? Cozy artificial lighting existed for thousands of years before smart lights.
You’re a vampire?
Do you also curse at god when walking outside on a sunny day?
Oh haha, that’s not the “big light”
Sometimes to a degree if it’s a really bright morning and I just got up but I can adjust to natural light a lot more easily than bright ass fake light on ceilings, the only exception is when the ground is light colored like my driveway is light gray pavers and the reflection of the sun can fuck me up
I mean, yes? When I don’t have my sunglasses, at least.
I regularly complain someone should turn it off or at least dim in.