postmarketOS v25.06: the one with systemd

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Woah cool, this is the first time I've actually read about postmarketOS, other than seeing it mentioned occasionally, and it's pretty neat to see it coming along!

I was skeptical of them at first when looking for 2nd-life OS's. There were a lot of sketchy looking and not really "user-friendly" sites/forums (postmarketOS being one of them) that I avoided but decided to try it anyways. It's been fun and I've enjoyed having a decent OS to tinker with and see what capabilities I can get out of defunct equipment.

If I could get a secure smartphone use out of them I'm gonna be ecstatic. Been staring at phones and GrapheneOS for the past two years but glad I didn't jump onto something yet.



I feel so proud of postmarketOS! I've been using them for 2nd life uses for phones, tablets, and chromebooks with very minimal problems. It's like having an obscure band you follow all of a sudden getting mentioned everywhere and I couldn't be happier for the project (like the 3rd time on Lemmy this week alone I've seen them mentioned).

If you have some scrap equipment throw it on and report your findings! There's a lot of testing that needs done and information needs to flow. I've done a "recipe" notebook with an old chromebook, a tablet for easy video viewing I can send videos to (instead of making my partner come to the comp), and like 3 other devices that I haven't finished with but pmOS will be a part of it.

Join their testing team if you have devices that aren't listed! Unlike most requirements, if it's not listed that just means it probably hasn't been tested...not that it doesn't work on your device. (they could probably also use some editors for their text instructions, it's quite back and forth with links trying to find proper instructions).

@Cataphract is there any **brand new** device sold with #postmarketOS ? @cypherpunks

Nope, only with other linux phone brands

PostmarketOS is like the name says for EoL devices, not brand new ones




I'd love to try it, but it supports no phones after 2021 and those are getting scarce on top of being "lackluster" to say the least.

I once purchased a Lenovo A6000 as it's community supported, but my unit seems to be unsupported revision and I just bricked it so hard on so many levels it's now impossible to rescue it without directly connecting to the board, which might be more costly than getting another one.



Soon... Immutable postmarketOS

Declaritive postmarketOS

Re-write in Rust?



Kinda mobile-nixos, shame it's semi-abandoned and difficult to get working :(



finally! I was on edge


I am impressed! Thanks for the work and for sharing the good news.


Whoa whoa whoa

What is dis?


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grapheneos is not compatible with megacorpo philosophies


Samsung and others OEMs have little incentive to collaborate with privacy-oriented roms because a large part of their business models depend on the surveillance baked into their technology. They're only interested in security as far as it frees them from liability, or can be used as worthwhile PR. They might not be based out of the US or China, but they do still operate in said countries and are all too happy to comply with data or unlock requests.



Systemd

I'm out

you can still use OpenRC instead if you want, and sxmo will continue to do so by default.

you can read here about why they added systemd.

As much as we might want to romanticise the idea of spending 6, 12, 24 months attempting to come up with an even vaguely competitive alternative to systemd,

There are alternatives like runit, dinit, s6. About some of the more useful features of systemd, how about we recreate them without thight coupling to one specific init+service manager-in-one?

These exist already, they are the polyfills mentioned in the post. They even color coded how well each of them are maintained. So you can totally pick one up and contribute





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I get why they did it but its still sad

Why? (Just curious; I'm not familiar with the Linux phone scene)

It uses a ton of resources but Gnome demands it




The one with systemd


but if you expect Android or iOS levels of polish, then this is not for you yet.

“Android levels of polish” is crazy.

Polish refers to rough edges being removed, doesn't have to mean it's a perfect idea

Android has so many rough edges, it should be considered digital sandpaper.

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Ok, fair enough.






KDE mobile seems pretty sweet not gunna lie


I would really like to try this but the device support matrix looks a bit dire. Nothing newer than 2021 and spotty support for various hardware features across the board.


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