lumpenproletariat, deceptichum@quokk.au

Okay, so sorry I didn’t magically change my views because you know best.

Guess you won’t ever get the big picture unless you’re born outside of the US and see how normal this all is for the US.

So there’s nothing to gain from a distraction?

Simple fact is Trump attacked Iran because Israel wanted him to, he attacked Venezuela because it was a US national interest to do so, and he wants to attack Cuba for the same reason.

It’s not a distraction from the files, it’s US imperialism.

If everyone knew, what was being gained from these discussions?

Fact is everyone knew, not enough cared to act. It doesn’t matter if he invaded anywhere, there were no repercussions coming is way.

That’s all very well and good historical context, but I’d still rather call myself a leftist (or simply an anarchist) before I ever call myself a comrade; The contemporary connotations with the USSR and authoritarians make it something negative to me.

Australian.

You cannot overthrow the state without weapons and at least a genuine threat to use them.

You can get weapons, it’s not impossible. You basically just can’t have a criminal history and need to present a good enough reason (sport shooting, hunting, collecting, etc).

But very few Australians are leftists, so it’s not like the quote would be something most would agree with. They’re liberals who think giving the state the monopoly in violence is a good idea.

I call myself a leftist, it’s not a bad word?

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary

People think themselves powerless, that society can only exist in a top down system and anything else can’t ever work.

Lifetimes of propaganda and dereliction of civil duty are what we must push back against.

What are you on about. History is extremely complex with huge changing differences all the time.

Okay, there is literally nothing about it that can’t be scaled up except for capitalism being the predominant system backed by violence.

Yes it is.

Unless you have something concrete to prove all societies (even the current ones still existing) that engage in such practices inevitably must change away from such a system, that isn’t just a “this happened a few times historically so it must always be true even though there are still gift economies operating today” I don’t want to hear it.

Nothing is changing unless the US collapses it will continue to murder children like it has under every president dem or rep.

Zionism is Nazism, so go for it.

I’m calling for an extreme reduction in global manufacturing, because what we do is excessive due to capitalism. But that’s unrelated to general anarchism and follows other branches.

And it works by people organising and planning together for their mutual benefit instead of accumulation of currency.

You do understand that people can coordinate and cooperate internationally out of their choosing right? We don’t need a person up top to tell us what to do and what to send where.

Don’t let lesser be the enemy of what’s right. There will always be liberals seeking compromise on the right thing, and they’re wrong. That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.

People get complacent after doing some, it’s always better to do it all than half arse it and promise to come back later.

Plus it y’know actually stops the suffering rather than prolonging it but lesser.