TheFogan, thefogan@programming.dev
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Right but not only is it a security weakness, but it’s also not helpful to the user. Point is the username probably exists in the system.
Say I went to a website to register TheFogan, but TheFogan already exists, so I created TheFogan2.
3 years later I go back to the website, try and log in with username: “TheFogan” password: “Hunter2”, and it tells me “your username is right but your password is wrong”. But in reality I have the right password for my account, but the site would just think I have the wrong password for the guy who beat me to my account.
So yeah agreed the primary reason for it is security, IE a fully user focused, while having bad security practices would be, a “if the username exists in the system, report “Username and password don’t match”, if the username doesn’t exist report “There is no user by this name in the system”. My point is the site only can know if they have a user by that username, not whether that is MY username.
I mean that’s great and all but a real source would be nice. Someone who was a kid speaking nicely about someone accused of harming kids, isn’t an exoneration. That’s like Kanye saying Nick Fuentes isn’t racist.
Note not taking either side on the topic. I don’t know or really care that much on MJ, an actual useful source would be say an epstein letter where epsteins announcing they want to make MJ look guilty. Fully plausible that MJ’s scandal was a combination of people saying he’s weird, with a few chasing a paycheck. But someone who fits the demographic saying “I was around him for years and I was never abused”, is IMO not evidence.
yeah real question how would the website even know. Whole point is to match the 2 things together. Is hunter2 my password, well that depends who are you, we’ve got plenty of users that have that hunter2 password
I mean it’s a problem in the marketing and common usage of LLMs. That’s exactly it though, LLM companies, and people are describing LLMs as a way to do research.
IE you could say these criticisms come in things like wikipedia too. IE anyone can write what they want, but what does wikipedia require? right every single claim has to be cited. So if you go to wikipedia find misinformation, you click on the number and see it.
If you ask chatgpt What diseases should I be concerned about in africa, it lists you a few. You can then… google it, find the wikipedia page, and look for what’s there. It’s a tool without a purpose at that point. because it literally doesn’t save you any steps. It doesn’t guide you to the source to check it’s facts, when it tells you them it may or may not be making up the sources. At which point, it has no factual use, or use in even directing to the facts.
No one is surprised when the dog gets worms after eating poop it found in the yard. Why are we shocked that an AI that doesn’t know fact from fiction treats everything the same?
I think that’s the problem though, I think the poop in the yard is a better example. Key is the researchers put that information in speculation. That’s like if Anderson Cooper made up a fake news story, and posted it in an anonymous tweet to analyze how far it would spread, and then fox news picks it up and runs with the story all day.
That’s the key problem, people are trusting LLMs to do their research for them, when LLMs just gather all the information they can get their hands on mindlessly.
That’s the key problem, If they send a misinformative article, to a place for untested, unproven random speculation with a very low bar for who can submit… they can determine that LLMs are looking there. Key thing to note is, it’s not their fake disease that’s the threat. It’s that if it found their fake article, then LLMs probably also scooped up a ton of other misinformed or dubious things.
Lets look at it this way, say it was a cake, but we threw it in the garbage, 2 weeks later we find the same cake… at jims bakery, same ID, same distinct marker we put on it.
What does that tell us, it tells us that Jims bakery is clearly sometimes, dumpster diving and putting things up that clearly are dangerous.
Biggest thing that I think is pretty badly phrased… is linux “system requirements”. considering in the windows world if you try and install with less than the required ram… the installer will usually stop you.
While in ubuntu they may say “requirement” but it’s a recomendation. You can install 26 into a VM with 1 GB of ram… and it will run. Really nothing in this version of ubuntu is more resource hungry than the previous version. So in short them boosting the number is just saying “if you use a typical amount of tabs open in your browser, 6gb ram is kind of needed”.
So yeah I’d say most likely the fair way to put it is, windows 11 will let you install on 4gb of ram… but most would say it’s very unusable even at a basic level with that, you can run ubuntu with that… it will probably not be a great experience, but not as bad as windows until you start running into large web apps or tons of tabs.
Heck OS’s really could just have an “overhead” kind of number or something. Because that’s the real thing, what you need is system specs that can handle your
system kernel + system services > Interface (be it terminal or gui) > application (and if that application is loading external sources like web pages, add that in too).
Point is your “minimum” line, should stop at what you consider the default parts of your distribution. IE interface and below.
Obviously no one is using it without applciations, but we don’t know what applications people are using. It’s not like we do this for storage. IE we aren’t saying “ok yeah everything we included is within 5 GB, so we’re setting the requirement at 200 TB because you can’t be a video editor without that much space.
You know, that would actually be the funniest possible concept if it actually turned out to be true. We discover the whole wild kingdom is like pulling a toy story on us. All animals are sentient, Our dogs actually speak perfect english.
It’s much like HHGTTG said about dolphins.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”
A bit of a rough one, but I’d say it’s passed the point of concern. IE I tend to view it in life stages. 25-46 is IMO a lot less creepy than say, 20 dating 30. In spite of the gap being halved. Graduating college is a big step, getting started in a career.
Once you are in a career path, life doesn’t really change all that much. age differences don’t matter so much anymore provided both are past all the big shifts.
I mean it’s a mixed bag.. I get the idea of nothing should be removed, blocked, downvoted etc… as the ideal of free speach.
Right up until you look at every platform that explicitly avoids it and goes full “We’re all about free speech!”.
IE huge problem is, the first people to jump to those platforms, are the ones that have been banned for good reason from everywhere else. Which of course means… nazi’s come in droves Reasonable people that either have less borderline, or perhaps no borderline thoughts get there… see 500 posts from nazi’s, and head for the door imidiately, until it just turns into a nazi echo chamber.
I mean in rational views… the police and DOJ can’t be trusted, the story still has a lot of oddities in it, the text messages seem staged as hell, whether that being Robinson going out of his way to actively clear his roomate, or the police just forging messages.
That being said I haven’t seen anything that seems to contradict the idea that Robinson himself, was opposed to Kirk’s hate mongering, and took the shot for that reason.
I mean, I’m not going to pretend to know everything, obviously a lot of it is media coverage etc… not enough is known, and hell there’s the weird oddities that make me question the entire robinson narrative. (IE the assemble/dissassemble the rifle multiple times that don’t make sense, the fact that the supposed exit wound looks more like an entry wound etc…), But assuming robinson is the shooter, with what we can see, it seems more likely he was against kirks hatred rather than feeling it didn’t go far enough.
I will admit there’s not enough to go on to get a picture, but with everything that is there, I don’t really see anything there that points to robinson being a bigot.
I mean his death couldn’t have been more memable. He literally got shot at a school by a white kid. While talking about school shootings, trying to shift the focus onto black gangs, standing under a prove me wrong tent.
Fairly not super experienced on things. but how viable is a layered system, does it just prohibitively slow or storage consuming or is it moderately feasible to say double encapsulate everything.
What cracked me up is someone tried asking one of the AI’s “is isreal run by the jews”, and it responded that is just an antisemetic conspiracy theory and completely false.
Big corps do this the reverse way.
First off for the most part, high prices isn’t where big corps are screwing us usually. Least not on luxury goods. Mainly low wages is the real killer, our shit is stupidly cheap. Prices that are only possible via exploitative labor and high environmental destruction. So even the premise is flawed.
But then the bigger thing, even if you could say sell something below amazon’s price… and keep up with inventory and shipping to keep doing it. Amazon can, and will bring their price down… temporarally, only as long as you are still selling the product. They have bots watching everything… and they will undercut you. For them it’s not a big deal, they are in basically every other industry, so while you are still paying for hosting, some bare minimum staff needed to get and sell your product, amazon can just undercut you, make sure you have no customers and starve you out, and the second the bots see you are no longer selling… they jump their prices up to where they are profitable again.
Honestly I can’t disagree. Trumps behavior is american conservatism going back to Nixon/Reagan probably further. The biggest difference is as society advanced. Conservatives had to water things down, find convoluted excuses to do these things. Trump just goes out and does it all. Doesn’t even try to mask it “oh yeah we’re attacking because we want the oil”.
worth noting, e-mail however was… If I recall ascii porn was among the first things sent.
I view the general problem with it is simply the existence of other societies.
IE lets say you have 4 societies on an island. 3 of them put all of their focus into developing a sustainable workable long term solution, farming/fishing etc….
1 of them, works on building weapons and attacking the other 3. Result, the murderous colony kills the other 3, then eventually either learns to act like the ones it killed and produce food, or it dies out with nothing left to raid.
Or like say rabbits, if you try and raise rabbits. You drop 2 in the wolf enclosure and see what happens. obviously the result is the rabbits die out. it’s not that rabbits aren’t a viable evolutionary path. It’s that without time and space to grow their numbers before getting encroached by the nearby predators, there’s no shot.
Point I’m making is… the biggest problem of developing any system, that works better on the whole. is outside interference. It’s the same concept that say modern manufacturing would make smaller and lighter cars better and far more cost efficient. They would be safer except for the fact that they wouldn’t survive a collision with an SUV. It’s not the smaller lighter car that’s the problem. It’s the established systems with their flaws are integrated into society.
I’d say the presence of, non law abiding humans, is also a factor when talking illegally manufactured alchohol as well. But yeah the additional toxins etc… is a much bigger factor in meth rather than alchohol.
That’s still the thing though, yes both of those are factors, but at least in cases of NSFW content being posted to a non NSFW subreddit, the users and mods can tell at first sight of the content, that it doesn’t belong. while a large portion of illegal NSFW content, is very difficult to distinguish from legal NSFW content.
Right but not only is it a security weakness, but it’s also not helpful to the user. Point is the username probably exists in the system.
Say I went to a website to register TheFogan, but TheFogan already exists, so I created TheFogan2.
3 years later I go back to the website, try and log in with username: “TheFogan” password: “Hunter2”, and it tells me “your username is right but your password is wrong”. But in reality I have the right password for my account, but the site would just think I have the wrong password for the guy who beat me to my account.
So yeah agreed the primary reason for it is security, IE a fully user focused, while having bad security practices would be, a “if the username exists in the system, report “Username and password don’t match”, if the username doesn’t exist report “There is no user by this name in the system”. My point is the site only can know if they have a user by that username, not whether that is MY username.
I mean that’s great and all but a real source would be nice. Someone who was a kid speaking nicely about someone accused of harming kids, isn’t an exoneration. That’s like Kanye saying Nick Fuentes isn’t racist.
Note not taking either side on the topic. I don’t know or really care that much on MJ, an actual useful source would be say an epstein letter where epsteins announcing they want to make MJ look guilty. Fully plausible that MJ’s scandal was a combination of people saying he’s weird, with a few chasing a paycheck. But someone who fits the demographic saying “I was around him for years and I was never abused”, is IMO not evidence.
yeah real question how would the website even know. Whole point is to match the 2 things together. Is hunter2 my password, well that depends who are you, we’ve got plenty of users that have that hunter2 password
I mean it’s a problem in the marketing and common usage of LLMs. That’s exactly it though, LLM companies, and people are describing LLMs as a way to do research.
IE you could say these criticisms come in things like wikipedia too. IE anyone can write what they want, but what does wikipedia require? right every single claim has to be cited. So if you go to wikipedia find misinformation, you click on the number and see it.
If you ask chatgpt What diseases should I be concerned about in africa, it lists you a few. You can then… google it, find the wikipedia page, and look for what’s there. It’s a tool without a purpose at that point. because it literally doesn’t save you any steps. It doesn’t guide you to the source to check it’s facts, when it tells you them it may or may not be making up the sources. At which point, it has no factual use, or use in even directing to the facts.
I think that’s the problem though, I think the poop in the yard is a better example. Key is the researchers put that information in speculation. That’s like if Anderson Cooper made up a fake news story, and posted it in an anonymous tweet to analyze how far it would spread, and then fox news picks it up and runs with the story all day.
That’s the key problem, people are trusting LLMs to do their research for them, when LLMs just gather all the information they can get their hands on mindlessly.
That’s the key problem, If they send a misinformative article, to a place for untested, unproven random speculation with a very low bar for who can submit… they can determine that LLMs are looking there. Key thing to note is, it’s not their fake disease that’s the threat. It’s that if it found their fake article, then LLMs probably also scooped up a ton of other misinformed or dubious things.
Lets look at it this way, say it was a cake, but we threw it in the garbage, 2 weeks later we find the same cake… at jims bakery, same ID, same distinct marker we put on it.
What does that tell us, it tells us that Jims bakery is clearly sometimes, dumpster diving and putting things up that clearly are dangerous.
Biggest thing that I think is pretty badly phrased… is linux “system requirements”. considering in the windows world if you try and install with less than the required ram… the installer will usually stop you.
While in ubuntu they may say “requirement” but it’s a recomendation. You can install 26 into a VM with 1 GB of ram… and it will run. Really nothing in this version of ubuntu is more resource hungry than the previous version. So in short them boosting the number is just saying “if you use a typical amount of tabs open in your browser, 6gb ram is kind of needed”.
So yeah I’d say most likely the fair way to put it is, windows 11 will let you install on 4gb of ram… but most would say it’s very unusable even at a basic level with that, you can run ubuntu with that… it will probably not be a great experience, but not as bad as windows until you start running into large web apps or tons of tabs.
Heck OS’s really could just have an “overhead” kind of number or something. Because that’s the real thing, what you need is system specs that can handle your
system kernel + system services > Interface (be it terminal or gui) > application (and if that application is loading external sources like web pages, add that in too).
Point is your “minimum” line, should stop at what you consider the default parts of your distribution. IE interface and below.
Obviously no one is using it without applciations, but we don’t know what applications people are using. It’s not like we do this for storage. IE we aren’t saying “ok yeah everything we included is within 5 GB, so we’re setting the requirement at 200 TB because you can’t be a video editor without that much space.
You know, that would actually be the funniest possible concept if it actually turned out to be true. We discover the whole wild kingdom is like pulling a toy story on us. All animals are sentient, Our dogs actually speak perfect english.
It’s much like HHGTTG said about dolphins.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”
A bit of a rough one, but I’d say it’s passed the point of concern. IE I tend to view it in life stages. 25-46 is IMO a lot less creepy than say, 20 dating 30. In spite of the gap being halved. Graduating college is a big step, getting started in a career.
Once you are in a career path, life doesn’t really change all that much. age differences don’t matter so much anymore provided both are past all the big shifts.
I mean it’s a mixed bag.. I get the idea of nothing should be removed, blocked, downvoted etc… as the ideal of free speach.
Right up until you look at every platform that explicitly avoids it and goes full “We’re all about free speech!”.
IE huge problem is, the first people to jump to those platforms, are the ones that have been banned for good reason from everywhere else. Which of course means… nazi’s come in droves Reasonable people that either have less borderline, or perhaps no borderline thoughts get there… see 500 posts from nazi’s, and head for the door imidiately, until it just turns into a nazi echo chamber.
I mean in rational views… the police and DOJ can’t be trusted, the story still has a lot of oddities in it, the text messages seem staged as hell, whether that being Robinson going out of his way to actively clear his roomate, or the police just forging messages.
That being said I haven’t seen anything that seems to contradict the idea that Robinson himself, was opposed to Kirk’s hate mongering, and took the shot for that reason.
I mean, I’m not going to pretend to know everything, obviously a lot of it is media coverage etc… not enough is known, and hell there’s the weird oddities that make me question the entire robinson narrative. (IE the assemble/dissassemble the rifle multiple times that don’t make sense, the fact that the supposed exit wound looks more like an entry wound etc…), But assuming robinson is the shooter, with what we can see, it seems more likely he was against kirks hatred rather than feeling it didn’t go far enough.
I will admit there’s not enough to go on to get a picture, but with everything that is there, I don’t really see anything there that points to robinson being a bigot.
I mean his death couldn’t have been more memable. He literally got shot at a school by a white kid. While talking about school shootings, trying to shift the focus onto black gangs, standing under a prove me wrong tent.
Fairly not super experienced on things. but how viable is a layered system, does it just prohibitively slow or storage consuming or is it moderately feasible to say double encapsulate everything.
What cracked me up is someone tried asking one of the AI’s “is isreal run by the jews”, and it responded that is just an antisemetic conspiracy theory and completely false.
Big corps do this the reverse way.
First off for the most part, high prices isn’t where big corps are screwing us usually. Least not on luxury goods. Mainly low wages is the real killer, our shit is stupidly cheap. Prices that are only possible via exploitative labor and high environmental destruction. So even the premise is flawed.
But then the bigger thing, even if you could say sell something below amazon’s price… and keep up with inventory and shipping to keep doing it. Amazon can, and will bring their price down… temporarally, only as long as you are still selling the product. They have bots watching everything… and they will undercut you. For them it’s not a big deal, they are in basically every other industry, so while you are still paying for hosting, some bare minimum staff needed to get and sell your product, amazon can just undercut you, make sure you have no customers and starve you out, and the second the bots see you are no longer selling… they jump their prices up to where they are profitable again.
Honestly I can’t disagree. Trumps behavior is american conservatism going back to Nixon/Reagan probably further. The biggest difference is as society advanced. Conservatives had to water things down, find convoluted excuses to do these things. Trump just goes out and does it all. Doesn’t even try to mask it “oh yeah we’re attacking because we want the oil”.
worth noting, e-mail however was… If I recall ascii porn was among the first things sent.
I view the general problem with it is simply the existence of other societies.
IE lets say you have 4 societies on an island. 3 of them put all of their focus into developing a sustainable workable long term solution, farming/fishing etc….
1 of them, works on building weapons and attacking the other 3. Result, the murderous colony kills the other 3, then eventually either learns to act like the ones it killed and produce food, or it dies out with nothing left to raid.
Or like say rabbits, if you try and raise rabbits. You drop 2 in the wolf enclosure and see what happens. obviously the result is the rabbits die out. it’s not that rabbits aren’t a viable evolutionary path. It’s that without time and space to grow their numbers before getting encroached by the nearby predators, there’s no shot.
Point I’m making is… the biggest problem of developing any system, that works better on the whole. is outside interference. It’s the same concept that say modern manufacturing would make smaller and lighter cars better and far more cost efficient. They would be safer except for the fact that they wouldn’t survive a collision with an SUV. It’s not the smaller lighter car that’s the problem. It’s the established systems with their flaws are integrated into society.
I’d say the presence of, non law abiding humans, is also a factor when talking illegally manufactured alchohol as well. But yeah the additional toxins etc… is a much bigger factor in meth rather than alchohol.
That’s still the thing though, yes both of those are factors, but at least in cases of NSFW content being posted to a non NSFW subreddit, the users and mods can tell at first sight of the content, that it doesn’t belong. while a large portion of illegal NSFW content, is very difficult to distinguish from legal NSFW content.