wiki_me, wiki_me@lemmy.ml

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The website is already linking to google play store and apple store. right now apps that are purely web don’t have a platform to read reviews on . plus neodb lib.reviews are open source although they might not yet be ready for the task yet.

Besides Lemmy mainly gets promoted by word of mouth (eg people recommending it on Reddit)

I doubt that, any data? similarweb shows the top referring site for now is openalternative.co (although at least one of the referring sites mentioned doesn’t seem to make sense for me ).

If people want to review Lemmy communities, it would make more sense to make a Lemmy community for that purpose.

I think people would want to see average ratings. reading a community page means you only read 1-3 reviews and that sample size is too small and potentially biased. you could just run into people who hate a instance for some particular reason (and it’s not hard for me to think of reasons like that).


Two ideas i like:

linking to a bunch of platforms that have reviews of lemmy, fynd does this:

A neodb instance (but maybe another platform would do) where you can read and write reviews about fediverse instances (but that would require at least one volunteer to moderate it).


It costs real world money to keep that data. tbf i don’t think you would find a service that does not delete inactive accounts. iirc when i did a market survey to find a new email address basically all free providers didn’t guarantee keeping your data if the account is free and inactive.


Using custom libraries sounds like a problem that is easy to miss. sure the super diligent developer will be fine but its like saying there is no point in linters because people just don’t read coding guidelines.

Looks like a few services already have a mechanism like i described in place. e.g. Kubernetes throws a “APIRemovedInNextReleaseInUse”.


We have lemmy apps that still aren’t supporting API changes added over a year ago. We even had one such case last week.

That sounds like something could be improve. is there some sort of warning mechanism in place?

Say when using a lemmy client. the client either specifies its a production build. or if its not then the lemmy server reports where deprecated API’s are used.


Not sure that is the correct approach. break frequently break often seems better (that’s what PHP and java seem to do as far as i can tell, unlike python 3 which caused a lot of drama).

notify a API is deprecated. give some time for users to update to the new API (1 year?) and then remove it.

Of course after version 1.0 there might be less breakage so it won’t be a be problem.


Why not provide a option to use an a desktop app?. maybe also add a flatpak. self hosting seems kinda complicated and i am not sure what are the benefits of that.

Also a demo instance would be nice.


This isn’t what i had in mind. i meant more like changing the line to something like:

We’d like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, donating money and helping find and fix bugs.

With “donating money” maybe replaced with “funding”.


I think liberapay has that feature.


We’d like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, and helping find and fix bugs

I feel like people giving their hard earned money for lemmy also should get a show of appreciation.


If there is interest then we can add more filters, for flair/tag, etc. But from the server logs it doesn’t seem like many people use RSS.

I feel like sometimes just usage data does not capture what power users do which is important. they might be the one who contribute stuff like high quality content, more money and code to the project.

Maybe there should be something like an invite based group for the people who contribute the best content for piefed or just people who contribute to the patreon (i think this can be set up automatically).

i myself use RSS but not for feeds of fediverse software . i did contribute some feedback to lemmy which ended up being accepted (the ability to block an instance, a few RES features which should appear on lemmy 1.0).


Why is it not a part of the project itself if you don’t mind me asking? i would imagine plugins are for the more opinionated or experimental features.


Honestly if you are interested in working on this domain. something like “amazon for red hats” sounds like a better idea. where you are able to subscribe to a organisation and he can gather feedback on what work people want the most (features and bug fixes). but only people paying money are allowed to vote. with data on which organisation are growing in their revenue and number of subscribers which is another indicator (like liberapay view income history section). and of course ability to write reviews and give ratings but again only for paying customers so there will be no review bombing.


Sounds reasonable. maybe take 3 months. spend about 30-50 hours working on this and see you can sustain the motivation to do this. then decide what to do next.


I wouldn’t. id rather give it to some FOSS non profit that would allocate the resources intelligently tbh.


Still, i try to act like an environmentalist and that means not buying stuff i don’t need. also a big part of that money will go to funding manufacturing costs and the development of new products for the same product line. unlike a campaign where a larger share of the money will go to developing a phone (and some of the money will go to give a return on investment to the owner, which is something i am fine with as long as there is no non-profit that can do the same work better).

Also for the CEO or board of directors it will be harder or even impossible to deduce that this signals a interest in a FOSS friendly smartphone.


Very Interesting. any ETA? will it have faster hardware like a faster CPU? will there be a fundraising campaign like kickstarter?


Thanks for the suggestions! I’m not actually looking for any donations though. It probably sounds weird, but I don’t want to derive value from this, or even assign value to it, in the interest of keeping the information as freely accessible as possible. Not too get too ideological, seeking money often causes people to make a good idea bad, or to make a simple process inefficient, to make more money from it. I’m thankfully in a position where I can keep (slowly) working on this project in my free time, while still keeping my head above water.

If you want to not get paid that is fine. but donating is the only way some people will be able to help make this happen. you could hire people using something like fiverr to do some of the boring stuff. money is just an efficient way to store and transfer economic resources. There is a significant difference often between a how a non profit allocates a economic resources vs a company that is owned by pension funds and mutual funds and is just trying to maximize a return on investment. Some of the best open source projects (e.g. blender signal thunderbird etc) hire full time workers.


When dealing with stuff like kickstarter campaigns. some people might not to risk the full amount (something like 600$), they might be interested in donating something like 10$ to help the project put out a product. then read up on reviews and decide if to go for it.


I suggest adding a license . i recommend a copyleft license (there are copyleft licenses for hardware. for example the cern licenses).

I also suggest setting up a open collective. i suspect people might be more inclined to donate to a non profit then to for profit companies like purism and Pine64.


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The website is already linking to google play store and apple store. right now apps that are purely web don’t have a platform to read reviews on . plus neodb lib.reviews are open source although they might not yet be ready for the task yet.

Besides Lemmy mainly gets promoted by word of mouth (eg people recommending it on Reddit)

I doubt that, any data? similarweb shows the top referring site for now is openalternative.co (although at least one of the referring sites mentioned doesn’t seem to make sense for me ).

If people want to review Lemmy communities, it would make more sense to make a Lemmy community for that purpose.

I think people would want to see average ratings. reading a community page means you only read 1-3 reviews and that sample size is too small and potentially biased. you could just run into people who hate a instance for some particular reason (and it’s not hard for me to think of reasons like that).


Two ideas i like:

linking to a bunch of platforms that have reviews of lemmy, fynd does this:

A neodb instance (but maybe another platform would do) where you can read and write reviews about fediverse instances (but that would require at least one volunteer to moderate it).


It costs real world money to keep that data. tbf i don’t think you would find a service that does not delete inactive accounts. iirc when i did a market survey to find a new email address basically all free providers didn’t guarantee keeping your data if the account is free and inactive.


Using custom libraries sounds like a problem that is easy to miss. sure the super diligent developer will be fine but its like saying there is no point in linters because people just don’t read coding guidelines.

Looks like a few services already have a mechanism like i described in place. e.g. Kubernetes throws a “APIRemovedInNextReleaseInUse”.


We have lemmy apps that still aren’t supporting API changes added over a year ago. We even had one such case last week.

That sounds like something could be improve. is there some sort of warning mechanism in place?

Say when using a lemmy client. the client either specifies its a production build. or if its not then the lemmy server reports where deprecated API’s are used.


Not sure that is the correct approach. break frequently break often seems better (that’s what PHP and java seem to do as far as i can tell, unlike python 3 which caused a lot of drama).

notify a API is deprecated. give some time for users to update to the new API (1 year?) and then remove it.

Of course after version 1.0 there might be less breakage so it won’t be a be problem.


Why not provide a option to use an a desktop app?. maybe also add a flatpak. self hosting seems kinda complicated and i am not sure what are the benefits of that.

Also a demo instance would be nice.


This isn’t what i had in mind. i meant more like changing the line to something like:

We’d like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, donating money and helping find and fix bugs.

With “donating money” maybe replaced with “funding”.


I think liberapay has that feature.


We’d like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, and helping find and fix bugs

I feel like people giving their hard earned money for lemmy also should get a show of appreciation.


If there is interest then we can add more filters, for flair/tag, etc. But from the server logs it doesn’t seem like many people use RSS.

I feel like sometimes just usage data does not capture what power users do which is important. they might be the one who contribute stuff like high quality content, more money and code to the project.

Maybe there should be something like an invite based group for the people who contribute the best content for piefed or just people who contribute to the patreon (i think this can be set up automatically).

i myself use RSS but not for feeds of fediverse software . i did contribute some feedback to lemmy which ended up being accepted (the ability to block an instance, a few RES features which should appear on lemmy 1.0).


Why is it not a part of the project itself if you don’t mind me asking? i would imagine plugins are for the more opinionated or experimental features.


Honestly if you are interested in working on this domain. something like “amazon for red hats” sounds like a better idea. where you are able to subscribe to a organisation and he can gather feedback on what work people want the most (features and bug fixes). but only people paying money are allowed to vote. with data on which organisation are growing in their revenue and number of subscribers which is another indicator (like liberapay view income history section). and of course ability to write reviews and give ratings but again only for paying customers so there will be no review bombing.


Sounds reasonable. maybe take 3 months. spend about 30-50 hours working on this and see you can sustain the motivation to do this. then decide what to do next.


I wouldn’t. id rather give it to some FOSS non profit that would allocate the resources intelligently tbh.


Still, i try to act like an environmentalist and that means not buying stuff i don’t need. also a big part of that money will go to funding manufacturing costs and the development of new products for the same product line. unlike a campaign where a larger share of the money will go to developing a phone (and some of the money will go to give a return on investment to the owner, which is something i am fine with as long as there is no non-profit that can do the same work better).

Also for the CEO or board of directors it will be harder or even impossible to deduce that this signals a interest in a FOSS friendly smartphone.


Very Interesting. any ETA? will it have faster hardware like a faster CPU? will there be a fundraising campaign like kickstarter?


Thanks for the suggestions! I’m not actually looking for any donations though. It probably sounds weird, but I don’t want to derive value from this, or even assign value to it, in the interest of keeping the information as freely accessible as possible. Not too get too ideological, seeking money often causes people to make a good idea bad, or to make a simple process inefficient, to make more money from it. I’m thankfully in a position where I can keep (slowly) working on this project in my free time, while still keeping my head above water.

If you want to not get paid that is fine. but donating is the only way some people will be able to help make this happen. you could hire people using something like fiverr to do some of the boring stuff. money is just an efficient way to store and transfer economic resources. There is a significant difference often between a how a non profit allocates a economic resources vs a company that is owned by pension funds and mutual funds and is just trying to maximize a return on investment. Some of the best open source projects (e.g. blender signal thunderbird etc) hire full time workers.


When dealing with stuff like kickstarter campaigns. some people might not to risk the full amount (something like 600$), they might be interested in donating something like 10$ to help the project put out a product. then read up on reviews and decide if to go for it.


I suggest adding a license . i recommend a copyleft license (there are copyleft licenses for hardware. for example the cern licenses).

I also suggest setting up a open collective. i suspect people might be more inclined to donate to a non profit then to for profit companies like purism and Pine64.