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  • WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.mltomemes@lemmy.worldNice one
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    10 months ago

    If someone sends me a one word reply of “yes” to “what is the purpose of this meeting and is my presence beneficial” then it wouldn’t matter what I asked lol.

    lol

    But just to reiterate the point I was making earlier, the idea is to avoid someone responding to “what is the purpose of this meeting and is my presence beneficial” with something along the lines of “the purpose is to discuss X, Y, and Z. Yes your input would be a big help thanks.”

    Curious on your thoughts on the suggestion I made and whether it improves communication or not?


  • WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlWeapons Of Mass Deception
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    10 months ago

    I guess reading comprehension is that bad. Here was the rest of the comment:

    The justification for attacking them is that they need to be stopped before they cross the line.

    I’m not saying I agree with this line of reasoning, but the clear idea is that Iran doesn’t currently have nuclear weapons.



  • WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.mltomemes@lemmy.worldNice one
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    10 months ago

    If you ask the person who invited you to a meeting “is my presence beneficial” they’re going to answer “yes”. That’s why they invited you.

    The purpose is to figure out whether your presence is actually needed, not whether they think it is.

    I do like a lot of your ideas though, I might suggest:

    “What is this meeting about? I’m trying to figure out if my presence would be beneficial.”

    That way you are the determinant of whether your presence is necessary, and the other person has to articulate what the actual benefit would be as opposed to just saying “yes”.










  • WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.mltomemes@lemmy.worldBased muslim child
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    10 months ago

    There is a problem with a lot of the people that practice polygamy in an unethical way

    That is what the person you responded to said. There is a problem with the cultural of polygamy here because it’s done in an unethical way.

    but not polygamy itself.

    That is also what the person you replied to said. They clarified specifically that if both genders are free to practice polygamy in the same way there’s no issue.



  • Every good scientist believed in something supernatural at least once, then they tried to proof it (black holes f.e.).

    Science deals with things that are natural.

    If a black hole were assumed to be supernatural there’d be nothing to prove. The “then they tried to prove it” forces scientists to make theories which are falsifiable (ie in the natural world).

    If there’s no test we can think of to disprove the idea, it’s not a scientific idea.

    Atheism is unscientific. You can’t proof the non existence of god(s),

    Theism is unscientific. You can’t prove the existence of god(s).

    A-theism means absence of theism.

    Atheists aren’t necessarily claiming to be able to prove god doesn’t exist, they’re saying they don’t believe in a particular theism.

    therefore ruling out every possible of something supernatural is dumb.

    Agreed. Gnostic atheism seems dumb to me too.

    That’s why I’m agnostic atheist. I don’t believe in God, but I dont know if I’m right or not.

    There could be a god, and seeing evidence of such I’d change my mind.

    How many dimensions are there again?

    We don’t know.

    Depends what you mean by dimension as well. Spacetime seems to have 4, 3 space and 1 time.

    Spacetime also appears to be an illusion. Whatever the answer is needs to be informed by quantum physical mechanisms we don’t fully understand yet.

    Again, agnostic covers the “I don’t know part”.

    Has every scientist that believes in the string theory lost credibility?

    Basically yeah.

    Checkout this video, Dr. Collier covers a lot of points I was feeling as well.

    https://youtu.be/kya_LXa_y1E

    String theorists lied to everyone and massively overstated the evidence that it was true when it was still a young developing model.

    Now that it’s become a dead-end it’s tough to take back those promises.



  • if I were there would be proof that’s why your example is a false equivalence.

    Not necessarily. This is lemmy, you’re on a completely anonymous account. I wouldn’t expect to have any proof.

    Maybe you just didn’t get caught yet.

    If the Christian God exists, for example, there would be no way of knowing for certain

    I was willing to grant you the philosophical God argument, but if you want to evoke the Christian God you’re now making a whole bunch of positive claims.

    Why don’t we look at the evolutionary record and see whether all of humanity comes from Adam and Eve or if animals evolved from a common ancestor?

    We can look for evidence of a flood, or an exodus and see there is none.

    We can track the history of Yahweh, and how he was syncretized with El and Baal from Caananite faiths, and morphed over centuries from a local Storm/war God to the only God.

    The early Israelites engaged in polytheistic practices that were common across ancient Semitic religion, because the Israelite religion was a derivative of the Canaanite religion and included a variety of deities from it, including El, Asherah, and Baal. Initially a lesser deity among the Cannanite pantheon, Yahweh in later centuries became conflated with El; Yahweh took on El’s place as head of the pantheon of the Israelite religion, El’s consort Asherah, and El-linked epithets, such as ʾĒl Šadday (אֵל שַׁדַּי‎), came to be applied to Yahweh alone. Characteristics of other deities, such as Asherah and Baal, were also selectively absorbed in conceptions of Yahweh.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

    We can compare the contradictions between the behavior of the Old Testament God and Jesus to conclude like early Christians such as Marcion of Sinope Yahweh and Christianity are incompatible

    Study of the Hebrew Bible, along with received writings circulating in the nascent Church, led Marcion to conclude that many of the teachings of Jesus were incompatible with the actions of Yahweh, characterized as the belligerent god of the Hebrew Bible. Marcion responded by developing a ditheistic system of belief around the year 144.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope

    We can compare the Gospels and see where they copied stories from the Iliad/Odyssey.

    Odyssey Location Mark Location

    Athena descends like a bird 1.319-324 Spirit descends like a dove 2:1-2 Sailors volunteer to follow Athena 2.383-413 Fishermen volunteer to follow Jesus 1:16-20 Nestor’s feast for 4500 men 3.1-68 Jesus’s feast for 5000 men 6:30-44 Menelaus’s wedding feast 4.1-67 Jesus’s feast for 4000 8:1-9 Odysseus enters city behind mules 6.252-261 Jesus enters city on an ass 11:1-11 Alcinous’s prolific figs trees 7.112-121 Jesus curses unprolific fig tree 11:12-14 Blind Demodocus among sailors 8.471-473 Blind man at “House-of-fisherman” 8:22-26 Lotus-eating, forgetful comrades 9.62-107 Forgetful disciples at sea 8:19-21 Polyphemus the cave-dweller 9.105-525 Dangerous demoniac from caves 5:1-20 Aeolus’s bag of winds and gale 10.1-55 Jesus calms winds and sea 4:35-41 Cannibals at the harbor 10.76-136 Hostile Pharisees at the harbor 8:10-13 Following a water carrier to dinner 10.100-116 Following a water carrier to dinner 14:12-16 Circe turns soldiers into swine 10.135-465 Jesus sends demons into swine 5:1-20 Odysseus’s last supper before Hades 10.546-561 Jesus’s last super and Gethsemane 14:32-42 Death of young Elpenor 10.546-560 Flight of naked young man 14:43-52 Blind seer Tiresias 11.90-94 Blind seer Bartimaeus 10:46-52 Death of Agamemnon at a feast 11.409-430 Death of the Baptist at a feast 6:14-29 Burial of Elpenor at dawn 12.1-5 Young man at tomb at dawn 16:1-4 Eurylochus’s vow 12.298-305 Peter’s vow 14:26-31 Eurylochus’s broken vow 12.367-396 Peter’s broken vow 14:66-72 Eumaeus’s Phoenician nurse 15.417-491 Syrophoenician woman 7:24-30 Odysseus’s transfiguration 16.172-301 Jesus’s transfiguration 9:2-13 Suitors plot to kill Telemachus 16.383-385 Vinedressers kill the beloved son 12:1-12 Conspiracy to kill Telemachus 17.182-213 Conspiracy to kill Jesus 14:10-11 Penelope’s hospitality 17.534-547 Generous widow at temple 12:41-42 Irus the beggar 18.1-94 Barabbas the brigand 15:6-15 Telemachus’s amazement at house 19.35-43 Disciples’ amazement at temple 13:1-2 Penelope’s request for a sign 19.102-271 Disciples’ request for a sign 13:3-8 Prophetic oak at Dodona 19.296-307 Prophetic fig tree 13:28-31 Eurycleia washes her master 19.370-575 Woman anoints Jesus 14:3-9 Eurycleia’s recognition of Odysseus 19.474-486 Peter’s recognition of the Messiah 8:27-30 Odysseus slays suitors in his house 22.17-86 Jesus expels merchants from temple 11:15-19 Contested authority over the house 22.221-233 Contested authority over the temple 11:27-33 Odysseus hacks to death evil slave 22.474-477 Bystander slices off a slave’s ear 14:43-5

    https://testimonia.pl/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/MacDonald.Mimesis.pdf

    Or also where they contradict each other

    If you spend enough time focusing on the truth of this you will eventually conclude you cannot prove your belief like they cannot prove theirs so neither side has anything demonstrable.

    I don’t think theist Christians would agree with that though. Quoting Tertullian:

    We do not worship your gods, because we know that there are no such beings. This, therefore, is what you should do: you should call on us to demonstrate their non-existence, and thereby prove that they have no claim to adoration; for only if your gods were truly so, would there be any obligation to render divine homage to them. And punishment even were due to Christians, if it were made plain that those to whom they refused all worship were indeed divine. But you say, They are gods. We protest and appeal from yourselves to your knowledge; let that judge us; let that condemn us, if it can deny that all these gods of yours were but men.

    https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0301.htm

    When it comes to a philosophical creator god I agree with your statement, this view describes agnostic atheism.


  • The assertion that there is no God cannot be proven as you cannot prove a negative.

    Correct, no one argued that.

    There assertion that there is a divine entity cannot be logically demonstrated in any valid way logically speaking.

    Correct again.

    The validity of either claim cannot be tested and thus have the same overall value and it is a matter of which you choose to accept.

    Do you really mean that?

    If I were to accuse you of something terrible like being a child molester with absolutely zero evidence…

    That’s valid? You can deny it, but your denial is of equal value to my accusation right? So if everyone in this comment section chooses to believe you molester children from now on… do you have a problem with that?

    The reason I’m an atheist is the same reason I don’t believe you’re a child molester yet. I think there is a burden of proof of evidence that would need to be met before the accusation needs to be taken seriously.